HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
So i guess the hornets suck? nobody is talking about them. Are there still 2-3 tarholes on the roster?
I need a new bball team to root for until fantasy baseball season revs back up 1/9/2017 8:45:55 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
Hornets were the #3 team in the East before this weekend. But they're on a tough road trip and have lost the first two games.
There too hot and cold and are missing a true big man and backup PG. Hibbert and Kaminsky continue to regress. 1/9/2017 9:03:18 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
The road trip brings them a lot of troubles. And many players get injuries after the first two months' sprint which takes them to the 4th place in the east and 1st place in the southeast. This is the price to pay.
And there's not much difference compared with last season, slight changes. Big AL is substituted with Hilbert, Lin is taken by Session. Walker's hero ball is still the key of their winning. MKG is disappointing. They could be in serious problem from now on if there's no surprise coming to the team. ATL already surpass them in the division. 1/9/2017 10:16:40 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Been on a skid with Batum and Zeller injuries. 1/9/2017 10:25:29 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Zeller started playing from last game already. Didn't help much.
[Edited on January 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM. Reason : We will find out what's likely to happen shortly. Too early to tell still] 1/9/2017 10:42:21 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
They're a good team with good players and a star PG, but there's a few things holding them back:
1. Weak backup PG and C. Sessions is a decent backup, but he's just not gelling with the team for some reason. Marco is basically the backup PG, for better or worse. Hibbert and Hawes are just terrible.
2. Frank's regression. He's doing a lot of good things, but he's forgotten how to shoot 3's all of a sudden. I think he's shooting around %25
Kemba has been fantastic this year -- like, All Pro good -- but he can't do it alone. Batum will always be more of a glue guy than a star player. He definitely makes them a better team, but he can't carry the load when Kemba is out or off.
I heard the Bulls are thinking about rebuilding and trading Jimmy Butler. If the Hornets could find a way to pair him with Kemba, we might have something. 1/9/2017 12:52:58 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on January 9, 2017 at 1:33 PM. Reason : We have to be more patient]
1/9/2017 1:25:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
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packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I heard the Bulls are thinking about rebuilding and trading Jimmy Butler." |
MKG, Frank, and a 1st rounder?1/9/2017 10:27:26 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Hell, I'd throw in two first-rounders to get Butler in his prime. IIRC, he's 27 and signed through 2020.
Kemba Butler Batum Marv Zeller
Probably never going to happen, but that team could hang with anybody. 1/10/2017 10:47:10 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Butler just arise to the leader of Bulls. It's crazy to trade him. 1/10/2017 11:05:00 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, but they're sort of in No Man's Land. Kind of like the White Sox unloading Chris Sale a couple weeks ago. They were a decent team with him that was going nowhere. Might as well sell high and build for the future.
Rondo and Wade haven't made them any better, and they're floundering at .500 right now. I've actually heard they really want to unload Rondo, so maybe we could take them off their hands along with Butler.
Anyway, I give this deal about a 1% chance of ever happening. But MJ does love him some Bulls 1/10/2017 12:56:51 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
No Rondo. We don't need another short PG. Dwight Howard should have been a big piece added last season, but he's gone to ATL. I think that's the main reason ATL catching up from behind now. 1/10/2017 2:11:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Warriors in town tonight, 8pm on ESPN 1/25/2017 7:06:28 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Bucks are in talks with the Hornets to trade Miles Plumlee for Roy Hibbert and Spencer Hawes, sources told" |
LOL just what we need a fucking Plumlee and not even the good one.2/2/2017 2:38:35 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Garbage trade. I feel like Hawes was the best player in the deal though, so I have no clue why they felt the need to package him with trash for trash. 2/2/2017 4:52:36 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
At least the Hornets traded the two slowest humans in the NBA.
[Edited on February 2, 2017 at 5:07 PM. Reason : ] 2/2/2017 5:03:35 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
This trade is going to do absolutely nothing to improve their playoff spot (or chances) 2/2/2017 5:09:09 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27843 Posts user info edit post |
Hawes is garbage. Hibbert isn't seeing the floor. Of course the Hornets would trade them for another untalented big with a bad contract. It's what they do. 2/2/2017 6:17:37 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
It's a nice trade to stop the bleeding. He fits perfect schematically.
He's excellent in the PNR on offense and he can score or pass as the roll man.
On defense he won't get lit up like a Christmas tree on the PNR like hibbert.
Hawes was awful on both ends.
Really what this does is allows kemba and batum to run the PNR like they do best. We couldn't run it with hibbert at all because he was too slow to set a screen let alone roll.
Should free up more good 3pt looks for marv/kaminsky by having a credible roll man.
When zeller comes back we have a pretty good team now. Should solidify our playoff chances.
It actually gives us more room potentially because we get the full $8.4 MLE next year now plus we have a $3M trade exception from the troy daniels RFA this offseason.
If we could package bellinelli OR lamb with sessions expiring deal for a better backup PG we would be in business.
Unfortunately we are virtually mathematically eliminated from all but the #7 and #8 seed this year so we will probably get cleveland, Washington, or boston. We had a great shot vs toronto 2/2/2017 9:47:19 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
2.6 points per game. 1.7 rebounds per game. $12.4 million per year with 3.5 years left. 2/3/2017 12:16:55 PM |
TJB627 All American 2110 Posts user info edit post |
Couldn't find an NCSU alumni in the NBA thread so I figured this was close. The Hornets NBDL team just picked up Cat Barber.
https://twitter.com/greensboroswarm/status/827627496564723714 2/3/2017 4:24:21 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
Are there examples of non drafted, DL league guys who eventually become solid NBA level players? 2/4/2017 12:47:55 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Jeremy Lin 2/5/2017 12:21:45 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty sure Chris "birdman" Anderson fits the bill too.
Lots of 2nd round guys developed in the NBADL -- Hassan Whiteside, Danny Green, etc 2/5/2017 1:03:11 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
This is the Charlotte team we are familiar with again. 2/17/2017 1:07:16 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
What the Hell has happened to this team? Gottfried esque losing stretch here. 10 of 11. They were up 85-70 last night and lost in OT to the Pistons. 2/24/2017 9:51:34 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
tomorrow night is the draft lottery, when any dreams of getting a good player will be crushed, as usual 5/15/2017 4:51:11 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27843 Posts user info edit post |
just for kicks i looked up the hornets/bobcats/hornets all time draft history.
they've made some pretty awful lottery picks over the years.
http://on.nba.com/2qlDCFV
Morrison, Felton, MKG, Zeller, Reid are all disappointments based on being top 5 picks. 5/15/2017 6:07:19 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Thread saved. 5/15/2017 9:40:06 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
so they're picking Justin Jackson right? 5/16/2017 9:25:58 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's time for the token Duke pick with Kennard. 5/16/2017 9:52:43 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
You guys joke but I've definitely seen a mock with the Hornets landing Jackson and another with them landing Kennard.
We're sure to fuck this up. 5/16/2017 9:58:07 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
I'm kinda beyond caring at this point. There's literally no hope that this franchise is ever going to amount to more than an occasional first round cupcake. 5/16/2017 10:30:41 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27843 Posts user info edit post |
Hornets are basically the Browns
You could easily argue that they've only had 2 good 1st round picks since the Horcats came into existence (Okafor and Kemba.) ] 5/17/2017 1:56:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think Felton was a bad pick. But then they went and drafted Augustin for no reason.
Remember when people thought Cho was a great GM? lol 5/17/2017 3:18:54 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27843 Posts user info edit post |
I realize that draft was pretty weak, but felton should never have been a top 5 pick. Then they compounded it taking Lardass with their second first round pick.
Plus that was when everyone realized that Bob Johnson gave no shit about winning and just wanted to sell tickets, pandering to the tar heels. 5/17/2017 5:56:31 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
So which tarhole are the tarnets taking tis' time?
As a huggggeeee fan of the Hornets growing up, I am sorely disappointed at the constant stream of UNC garbage, and worthless boring big men drafted every year. I just can't get into these new hornets. They just don't have the same heart. The sharp needly logo they use now looks straight out of the XFL too, so lame. Should of stayed with the old school, like the celtics little Irish guy. We should have stayed with 80's bball belly hornets logo. At least it had some tradition and winning connected with it.
I wish Jordan would sell the team.
Preferably to Wendell Murphy.
[Edited on May 20, 2017 at 9:15 AM. Reason : Sad on Seabrooke Island :-(] 5/20/2017 9:11:57 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Haven't picked a UNC guy in 10 years. Have picked just as many UConn guys as UNC guys, if you care about facts. 5/20/2017 12:38:11 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27843 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, the Horcats just prefer to draft someone who isn't very good, regardless of school affiliation. 5/20/2017 12:49:35 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
^That's what i meant.
[Edited on May 20, 2017 at 3:21 PM. Reason : Cant wait for muh Tarnets to draft Justin Jaxson. he gone be a star!!!] 5/20/2017 3:20:54 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Pj hairston was ten years ago? Time flies 5/20/2017 4:23:33 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Hornets didn't draft him 5/20/2017 4:34:11 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ but that makes no sense. The joke about drafting UNC dudes is only funny if it's applicable. It's kinda not.
It's fine if you don't like the draft picks and style of play and all that. But the "tarnets" is not only kinda lame, it's also not relevant or accurate.
[Edited on May 20, 2017 at 7:54 PM. Reason : A] 5/20/2017 7:53:21 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
They have had 5-6 heels even if they didn't draft them. Hansbrough, Hairston, Marvin Williams.. Although unc put a lot of guys into the league, so maybe everybody's had 5 over the past 10-15 years 5/20/2017 9:14:34 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
While Bob Johnson seemed to think drafting both Felton and May would sell tickets, I think he and/or Jordan realized that that was stupid, and they've been trending downwards. McGinnis was also on the team at one point which is inexcusable. He was literally the worst starting PG in the entire league one year. But the most recent player they drafted was Branden Wright, who they traded on draft day. Hansbrough was basically the 15th guy on the roster and he rarely played, and Marvin isn't as annoying as most of their guys. So yeah, the Tarcats thing used to have some validity, but not like HOOPS makes it sound. 5/20/2017 9:31:13 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
Lol they have had a tarhole on the team basically since day1 . They went out of their way to put Hamdsdoosh on the team, quite possibly the most annoying awful UNC player of all time.
You are kidding yourself if you think Jordan and co aren't happy to market this team as Tarhole nation.
Take off your Charlotte colored glasses Mr. Twista:
When you do, You will see that the other side of the lens,
Is Carolina Blue.
[Edited on May 20, 2017 at 11:39 PM. Reason : Look beyond the veil.]
[Edited on May 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM. Reason : Look beyond the veil.] 5/20/2017 11:38:54 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
theyre clearly taking justin jackson this year 5/21/2017 10:09:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
CharConn Husknets 5/21/2017 11:01:02 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27843 Posts user info edit post |
Charnecticut Horskies 5/21/2017 11:03:07 PM |