So yea, Fox News and the right convinced the dumbest of the poor whites that they are victims and that blacks are racist #BLM members, but at least their website didn't say "let's kill them".

8/15/2016 5:08:49 PM

there's a lot of talk about what's on the bodycam video without actually releasing the bodycam video.

8/15/2016 6:03:28 PM

8/15/2016 6:17:35 PM

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"I like how JCE pretends to use logic when trolling, but Big4Country is just straight out with his racism"

I'm not racist. I just speak the truth and that isn't racism.

8/15/2016 6:58:24 PM

lol, u racist

8/15/2016 7:42:12 PM

I honestly don't think that Big4Country is a racist. I do however think that he has an 8th grader's understanding of the world, leaving him wholly unprepared to discuss complex issues such as race in America without sounding like a bigot.

[Edited on August 15, 2016 at 8:02 PM. Reason : But he's an adult, ya know? I'm not defending his simple ass]

8/15/2016 7:56:00 PM

people who claim they speak the truth are either stupid or lying.

8/15/2016 8:35:14 PM

so who torched more property?

a) Ferguson
b) Baltimore
c) Milwaukee

The rioters in Baltimore get extra points for raiding the pharmacy.

8/15/2016 9:57:07 PM

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" I'm not racist"

Nobody is, according to them.

8/15/2016 10:03:55 PM

The irony is that having such low expectations for people just because they are black, such as defending riots, is the definition of racism.

But when SJW's use the term, it isn't an actual accusation, it's just to avoid having to defend the "oppression" narrative that they need to virtue-signal to their liberal friends.

8/15/2016 11:26:47 PM

Arnt you late for your shift at best buy?

8/15/2016 11:41:59 PM

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"I honestly don't think that Big4Country is a racist. I do however think that he has an 8th grader's understanding of the world, leaving him wholly unprepared to discuss complex issues such as race in America without sounding like a bigot."

Not true, I just get called a racist for speaking the truth. A lot of people called me a racist in the other thread because I said I think cops are more likely to pull the trigger around black people because they are sort of playing the odds since they are statistically a more violent race. There are fewer black people in America than white people, but way more black people in jail. Then videos pop up like the one in this thread where the black guy is yelling "Beat up white people!" while the town is burning. That doesn't help the image of the race as a whole. Stuff like that is part of the reason innocent black people die.

8/16/2016 12:08:19 AM

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"The irony is that having such low expectations for people just because they are black, such as defending riots, is the definition of racism."

8/16/2016 12:38:39 AM

^^ look here Dopey, you need to read books. Books on subject matter including, but not limited to, Sociology, Criminology, Justice, and Race and Ethnicity. You might want to brush up on your statistics too.

8/16/2016 7:36:40 AM

It ain't murder....its just playing the odds. LOL! Jesus Christ you're an idiot. This isnt flipping a goddamn coin or betting on horse racing.

Lets start slowly here...fill in the blank....

Thinking someone will be violent because of their race and acting on those thoughts is called ________. Hint: It's not the truth.

8/16/2016 7:48:41 AM

Just to play devils advocate here...

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"Thinking someone will be violent because of their race statistics and acting on those thoughts is called ________. "

The answer here could easily be smart. If you replace their race with statistics does it become any less untrue but also less racist? Granted police should be trained to make different decisions than your regular joe shmoe I agree.

I am not defending anyone here but just pointing out that semantics can change the whole meaning of something quite a bit.

8/16/2016 8:33:14 AM

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"Not true, I just get called a racist for speaking the truth."

I understand what you're trying to say, but please don't try to make it sound noble.

8/16/2016 8:36:24 AM

Claiming black people are more violent because of prison stats is like saying coal miners are weak bc they have high rates of lung cancer.

8/16/2016 9:05:03 AM

8th Grader's understanding of the world....

8/16/2016 10:16:01 AM

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"since they are statistically a more violent race"

It's almost like there are other characteristics that influence propensity for violence.

Jesus fucking Christ, we are cruising straight down the Bell Curve Highway here..

8/16/2016 10:46:02 AM

It's almost like people genuinely believe they are violent because they are black. LOL

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 10:55 AM. Reason : darkness is some evil shit.]

8/16/2016 10:54:24 AM

just look at the violent nature of Dat Negro Nat Turner

8/16/2016 10:59:44 AM

what does he do for work?

8/16/2016 11:01:49 AM

regardless of the cause of the crap hole that is north milwaukee, the progressive solutions they have been trying last 50 years only making it worse

8/16/2016 11:03:54 AM

What progressive solution?

Milwaukee is HEAVILY segregated and has conservative Midwest democrats running it. There is nothing progressive about that city.

8/16/2016 11:06:14 AM

Worse than what?

I'd argue it, like the majority of this country, hasn't ever been that great if you were #000000

8/16/2016 11:07:09 AM

doesn't seem logical to me to fuck your own backyard up but whatever.

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 11:17 AM. Reason : also didn't this dude point his gun at a black officer? ]

8/16/2016 11:17:02 AM

Technically people who riot don't own what their destroying. So a better analogy would be fucking up the street in front of your house.

8/16/2016 11:22:33 AM

its not black people vs white people. Its the system vs black people.

8/16/2016 11:53:07 AM

8/16/2016 12:01:20 PM

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"Its the system vs black people."

Yea, that racist system where if you steal a gun, resist arrest, and point a gun at a cop, you get shot.

Justifying the rioting and looting is racism via low expectations.

8/16/2016 1:04:14 PM

See, I think it is willfull ignorance to assume the turmoil we are seeing in Milwaukee is the result of one man being shot by police. That may have been the straw that broke the back of the community; but there were numerous straws that fell leading up to this point.


It is still too early to know exactly what happened here (cause the police won't release the video, lol). Still, even without any evidence on what actually happened, if the community feels like there may have been wrong doing on behalf of the police....a smart person would ask why the community feels that way? What prior experiences does that community have that could possibly make them feel that way?



[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 1:26 PM. Reason : J]

8/16/2016 1:15:28 PM

JCE lives in a vacuum

8/16/2016 1:23:19 PM

whats the point of having police cameras if the police get to the keep the footage. the footage should all be streamed to a public server so that the people can police the police.

8/16/2016 1:24:07 PM

So if a cop enters a private residence, you think the footage from his body camera should be public record?

8/16/2016 1:43:25 PM

Certain users on here don't understand nuance.

Take Ferguson. Was "hands up, don't shoot" a false narrative? Yes. Was there years and years of systemic racism that led to a flashpoint event setting off civil unrest? Also, yes.

8/16/2016 1:47:45 PM

The places it really pops off are like the shitholes that have zero tolerance for jaywalking on residential streets, fines so high you can pay them with a minimum wage job, then jail for people for not paying fines..


The cops have done worse things in other cities and there have been no riots, its the places with the most fucked up whole criminal justice system that go nuts.

I thought the Philando Garcia thing would have resulted in complete anarchy based on how fucked up that was but for the most part it was peaceful protests until the whole thing in Dallas.

8/16/2016 2:04:35 PM

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"The answer here could easily be smart. If you replace their race with statistics does it become any less untrue but also less racist? Granted police should be trained to make different decisions than your regular joe shmoe I agree. I am not defending anyone here but just pointing out that semantics can change the whole meaning of something quite a bit."

Exactly! I'm guessing patrolling the black ghetto where there is a lot of gangs and gun violence is probably treated a little differently than patrolling a multi-racial middle class retirement community, thus you have unnecessary violence against blacks sometimes. It doesn't make it right though.

8/16/2016 2:25:19 PM

Way to back peddle on your insanely racist shit from last page.

8/16/2016 2:38:59 PM

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"See, I think it is willfull ignorance to assume the turmoil we are seeing in Milwaukee is the result of one man being shot by police."

I once encountered a young cop from my high school at a local bar bragging to his friends about a time he beat the shit out of a black guy in the hood for giving his squad car the finger. I understand we have a problem. Looting local business and setting fires to people's livelihoods that have nothing to do with police is not an answer to that problem.

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM. Reason : .]

8/16/2016 2:50:17 PM

yeah but people like you don't talk about the problem until a riot happens so its actually been the most effective way of raising awareness. michael brown and freddie gray are household names while no one even knows the names of most of the police shooting victims who weren't even committing crime.

8/16/2016 2:53:17 PM

I've talked about the problem since I heard that asshole spouting off about it. I have told his superiors who worked the door off duty at the bar I used to work at about the issue and they transferred him. Keep making assumptions about me though.

8/16/2016 2:55:30 PM

i was wrong to say people like you. i don't know about you but these stories get a lot more attention when there is rioting. thats all i was trying to say

8/16/2016 2:59:47 PM

No one here is supporting the rioting. That's silly.


All I am saying is that there is a reason for the unrest. It is the result of prolonged mistreatment by those in power.

8/16/2016 3:03:14 PM

i'm not supporting rioting nor am i supporting no one hearing the voices of these people.

when entire communities are ignored, rioting has been their only voice.

Of course i don't support rioting. These people's complaints should have been heard decades ago.

8/16/2016 3:05:25 PM

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" and they transferred him."

LOL

They should have put him in jail.

8/16/2016 3:06:37 PM

these riot videos have completely destroyed my perception of the "Minnesota Nice" dialect.

8/16/2016 3:13:58 PM

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"i was wrong to say people like you. i don't know about you but these stories get a lot more attention when there is rioting. thats all i was trying to say"

The problem is that it just creates a catch 22 type circle when this happens. All the media coverage shows black people rioting in the streets burning down their own neighborhoods yelling about beating up white people and people wonder why there is inherent racism built into peoples minds whether they want it to be or not.

I don't know the real answer to the problem as it seems like there isn't any great solution to the problem but giving people who stereotype easy ammunition as to why they do isn't helping the problem at all. I also understand how if people just sit back and protest peacefully and shit like these incidents with the cops keep happening how at some point you feel like peaceful protesting becomes hopeless as well. Both sides and all people have some accountability for these issues. Some of it is direct racism, some systemic racism, some personal choices, etc. but accountability has to be shared because its both sides of this argument causing issues.

8/16/2016 3:19:08 PM

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" All the media coverage shows black people rioting in the streets burning down their own neighborhoods yelling about beating up white people and people wonder why there is inherent racism built into peoples minds whether they want it to be or not. I don't know the real answer to the problem as it seems like there isn't any great solution to the problem but giving people who stereotype easy ammunition as to why they do isn't helping the problem at all. I also understand how if people just sit back and protest peacefully and shit like these incidents with the cops keep happening how at some point you feel like peaceful protesting becomes hopeless as well. Both sides and all people have some accountability for these issues. Some of it is direct racism, some systemic racism, some personal choices, etc. but accountability has to be shared because its both sides of this argument causing issues."

The solution is to point out the scale of the problem. The rioting is rare, violence associated with #BLM protests is also extremely rare, including fires.

But the DOJ have investigated Ferguson, Baltimore and the Oakland PDs and found rampant racism, both systemic and direct. There's been smaller investigations of PDs around the country also showing systemic racism. These are police departments with hundreds of members that affect thousands or maybe millions of citizens.

Worse yet, the North Carolina legislature specifically requested data on how blacks vote, then wrote a law specifically disenfranchising blacks. And now the governor is spending billions on legal fees to defend this. Anti-black racism isn't rare or isolated, or cheap.

So yeah, there's some angry blacks that became violent that were spurred to actions by #BLM protests, but these people are tiny in number compared to systems that have been working against them for decades.

8/16/2016 3:28:53 PM

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"Worse yet, the North Carolina legislature specifically requested data on how blacks vote"

Link? Source? Proof?

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"i'm not supporting rioting nor am i supporting no one hearing the voices of these people. "

You're equating "rioting" to the "voice of the people". You bleeding heart SJWs are absolutely defending rioting when you make these vague statements like "black people vs the system" or "Milwaukee is racist"... you're ignoring the fact that this is all likely a justified police shooting. Equating a bunch of stupid, unemployed looters to the "voice of black people" is racist as shit. Differentiate between the pieces of shit that riot, and people that peacefully protest. And no, robbing a store is not the same thing as the boston tea party.

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 3:45 PM. Reason : sjws lol]

8/16/2016 3:42:05 PM