BTW, RIP English ITT.

9/18/2016 3:19:18 PM

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"If they're related, seems like a large amount of explosives for a single group to assemble without being noticed."

it takes very little of any decent explosive to be very dangerous.

9/18/2016 3:20:31 PM

sounds poorly made and coordinated.

Unless there are eye witness accounts or security film, doubt they find much.

Might be like the Unibomber type deal

9/18/2016 3:34:21 PM

Trump paid his mafia friends to set the bombs. That's why they didn't put shrapnel elements in them, they wanted more bark than bite and chickened out for the second bomb.

It's also why Trump immediately called it a bomb instead of the more common gas explosion.

9/18/2016 4:25:44 PM

^ you better be careful with that, he could easily sue you -- if his people come to know of it, the chance of which is close to zero -- for slander/libel.

9/18/2016 5:33:07 PM

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"Trump immediately called it a bomb instead of the more common gas explosion."

Clinton called it a bombing. They're obviously both teaming up to make sure Johnson and Stein have no chance.

9/18/2016 6:13:34 PM

OBAMA DID 9/17

9/18/2016 11:47:24 PM

Well, looks like I was right about the Minnesota stabber being a Somalian.

They've now arrested 5 people I connection with the Chelsea bombing, let's see if I'm 2 for 2 on making guesses about who is going horrible, horrible shit.

Also more pipe bombs found at a NJ train station. I'm guessing the two are connected.

9/19/2016 12:00:44 AM

JEWS DID 9/17

9/19/2016 7:29:20 AM

Hmm, looking like I was incorrect. FBI is looking for an Afghan American suspect.

9/19/2016 8:54:16 AM

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"Still doesn't mean they're not related, maybe 2 separate groups coordinating an attack?"

So that means they would be related.

[Edited on September 19, 2016 at 10:15 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2016 10:14:59 AM

Shameful

9/19/2016 10:23:10 AM

I guess you can look at this weekend one of two ways.

1. Several different attacks at different venues involving several people could be cause for concern and show that we are losing on this war on terror.

2. All of these were non sophisticated attacks resulting in no deaths showing that this is what the terrorists are having to resort to in order to carry out attacks. There is zero chance of stopping all attacks like this, but if these are the types that happen rather than 9/11 type attacks I would call that a win.

9/19/2016 10:35:32 AM

Individual attacks have no bearing on whether or not we are losing the "war on terror."

There is almost no chance this was anything other than ISIS-inspired given how haphazard it was but as ISIS becomes more and more squeezed it wouldn't surprise me to see an uptick in attacks -- in Europe especially.

9/19/2016 11:57:06 AM

I agree, that was more of a snapshot of how most Americans will view these things

9/19/2016 12:01:54 PM

to my point earlier: being isis inspired does not mean isis is responsible, saying isis is responsible just makes them looks like they have more power than they do

9/19/2016 12:07:14 PM

I agree.

Having an ISIS planned and executed event here is highly unlikely. Much more likely in continental Europe.

9/19/2016 12:10:02 PM

Religion of Peace??????

Why do we want to let mass amounts of Muslims in again?

9/19/2016 12:29:22 PM

i'm down with that if we can also kick out all religion, cause fuck all you guys

also, wasn't this guy a citizen?

9/19/2016 12:30:42 PM

^^ because mass amounts of Muslims commit zero crimes, idiot

9/19/2016 12:33:47 PM

^The NY bomber was a Muslim from Afghanistan. There is nothing wrong with a little racial profiling and shutting down the borders. If people in all of the shit hole countries around the world get killed in wars it sucks, but that is just too bad and not America's problem.

9/19/2016 12:41:45 PM

he is also a us citizen

9/19/2016 12:46:29 PM

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"If people in all of the shit hole countries around the world get killed in wars it sucks, but that is just too bad and not America's problem."

oh word?

9/19/2016 12:49:31 PM

Jesus, is B4C a Christian?

9/19/2016 12:58:23 PM

^Yep! I'm all about loving my neighbor, but at the same time staying away from the crazy ones.

9/19/2016 1:04:42 PM

figures.

sounds like you assume all muslims are crazy.

9/19/2016 1:06:56 PM

him being developmentally disabled is more relevant to his belief than his religion

9/19/2016 1:07:53 PM

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"If people in all of the shit hole countries around the world get killed in wars it sucks, but that is just too bad and not America's problem."

Wow. OK.

9/19/2016 1:08:48 PM

I have to say, I'm not surprised at all to see Big4Country in this humpty bumpty spouting some 8th grade logic.


Like, you do realize the alleged bomber was a naturalized U.S. citizen, right? And you do realize that the mass majority of Muslims see this bombing as an atrocious, cowardly act, right?

9/19/2016 1:11:59 PM

^^^^Not all, just more than Americans. Last I heard Israel uses racial profiling and considers young Arab men to be the most dangerous people in the world followed by white American men. I can't say I blame them when you look back at the history of terrorism and serial killers. There's nothing wrong with playing the odds for your nations safety.

[Edited on September 19, 2016 at 1:12 PM. Reason : .]

9/19/2016 1:12:05 PM

Stop what you're doing, immediately, and find your way to a library. Read a goddamn book.

9/19/2016 1:15:43 PM

Apparently the guy was passed out and sleeping in the hallway of a bar? Sounds like we're dealing with a brilliant tactician here.



[Edited on September 19, 2016 at 1:28 PM. Reason : hallway]

9/19/2016 1:16:53 PM

Big4Country : Logic :: Rhamani : terrorism

lol, i didn't intend this but i just realized he probably doesn't understand this post which makes me giggle a little bit in my head

[Edited on September 19, 2016 at 2:02 PM. Reason : .]

9/19/2016 2:01:04 PM

It's an interesting parallel, the way the right uses terrorist tragedies as anecdotal evidence to push strict immigration.

Just like how the left uses mass shootings as anecdotal evidence to push for gun control.

The difference being one is assaulting a constitutional right of American citizens, the other isn't.

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"Like, you do realize the alleged bomber was a naturalized U.S. citizen"

Since these things are all politicized... Doesn't this actually support the Trump side of "we don't know who we are letting in?"

9/19/2016 2:06:32 PM

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" Since these things are all politicized... Doesn't this actually support the Trump side of "we don't know who we are letting in?""

Yeah, if you ignore the fact that 99.9999% of naturalized citizens stay here without issue.

9/19/2016 2:20:18 PM

y'all are arguing with a bagger at a grocery store and an unemployed pederast with an IT "certificate" from Bright Horizons

just stop

9/19/2016 2:23:54 PM

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"Yeah, if you ignore the fact that 99.9999% of naturalized citizens stay here without issue."

Interesting. Shouldn't this logic apply to all of the liberal narratives too?

99.9999% of gun owners aren't dangerous
99.9999% of police aren't racist
99.9999% of black homicides aren't caused by cops

Etc...

9/19/2016 3:05:53 PM

9/19/2016 3:23:11 PM

Ok cool so moral of the story we do nothing about everything

9/19/2016 4:29:15 PM

The moral of the story is to be consistent.

If the media tells you not to be outraged by Islamic terrorism, and its #not all Muslims, then apply the same logic when the media tells you to be outraged when there's a police shooting, #not all cops.

Or if you think (out of fear or ignorance) that statistically unrepresentative, anecdotal cases merit policy/law changes, then at least be consistently ignorant.

9/19/2016 5:38:05 PM

The police is a government run agency which is paid for by tax payer money.

Muslims span the globe and comprise of over a billion people.

Got ya

9/19/2016 5:47:18 PM

Not to mention naturalized U.S. citizens comprise an insignificant number of terrorist attacks here. So few, in fact, that one's status as a naturalized U.S. citizen is an extremely poor indicator of the propensity to carry out terrorist attacks

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"99.9999% of police aren't racist 99.9999% of black homicides aren't caused by cops"

The same cannot be said for the poorly thought out analogies with the police presented above. Turns out that racist and/or prejudice beliefs are a good indicator of a policeman's willingness to harass, stop, arrest, and shoot people of color as compared to those without said beliefs.

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"99.9999% of gun owners aren't dangerous"

Great job using some ill-defined measure such as 'dangerous'. But I'm not falling for your bait and switch... We weren't talking about how dangerous naturalized U.S. citizens are; but instead were specifically talking about their propensity for carrying out terrorist attacks (thus the idea for banning them). Instead of 'dangerous', let's use a more appropriate measure, such as illegal gun-related incidents. Gun owners take the cake here, without a question.

9/19/2016 6:29:25 PM

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"The moral of the story is to be consistent. If the media tells you not to be outraged by Islamic terrorism, and its #not all Muslims, then apply the same logic when the media tells you to be outraged when there's a police shooting, #not all cops. Or if you think (out of fear or ignorance) that statistically unrepresentative, anecdotal cases merit policy/law changes, then at least be consistently ignorant."

But now you're confusing systemic with anecdotal. If there are mosques hiding terrorist cells then yes, those mosques need to be dealt with. Its more analogous to systemic hiding of molestation by catholic diocese.

We have substantial amount of reports and evidence of police departments participating and or allowing large scale racism, brutality and covering it up instead of blowing the whistle.

9/19/2016 8:43:52 PM

Asking for cops who do wrong to get punished and to have independently investigations for officer involved shootings doesn't punish or demonize all cops (it arguably will increase the standing of cops).

Saying we need to ban muslims does punish and demonize brown-ish looking people (even Italians doing math on airplanes). There's a lack of consistency, but it's with the retards on the right who think cops are somehow immune from corruption.

9/19/2016 10:57:16 PM

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"Not to mention naturalized U.S. citizens comprise an insignificant number of terrorist attacks here. So few, in fact, that one's status as a naturalized U.S. citizen is an extremely poor indicator of the propensity to carry out terrorist attacks"

I never claimed it was a good indicator. Not sure what your point is.

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"Turns out that racist and/or prejudice beliefs are a good indicator of a policeman's willingness to harass, stop, arrest, and shoot people of color as compared to those without said beliefs."

This is a meaningless statement. "Indicator" implies you have some sort of measurable, provable, quantitative correlation, which you do not have in this case. If I say "Mean-spirited people are more likely to commit crime", it isn't necessarily untrue, but it isn't anything of substance that you should use to support an argument. A fragile narrative, however, needs any support it can get.

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"Instead of 'dangerous', let's use a more appropriate measure, such as illegal gun-related incidents. Gun owners take the cake here, without a question.<!--"

The way you are framing this makes me think you missed my point. Replace "dangerous" with any negative word, it isn't material to what I'm saying. My point is whenever there is a terrorist attack, the right says "see, terrorism is bad, harsher immigration policies, more vetting, Islam is dangerous etc. Then the left shits themselves #NotAllMuslims. Which makes sense, because its not statistically representative of immigrants (as you said). However the exact same side switches logic entirely when it fits their narratives. I.e statistically rare shootings = we need gun control, or statistically rare unjustified shootings of blacks = black people are oppressed.

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"Asking for cops who do wrong to get punished and to have independently investigations for officer involved shootings doesn't punish or demonize all cops (it arguably will increase the standing of cops)."

LOL. As if such a reasonable argument has EVER been the message of the race-baiting, divisive, regressive #BLM-leftists. If such a reasonable argument was Kaepernick's message, there would likely not be such a controversy. Instead we have fabricated division because your side (the unreasonable one) can't differentiate between a Tamir Rice and Mike Brown shooting. Your side doesn't care if its a justified shooting or an unjustified shooting, your side just cares about fabricating a victimhood narrative, hence when Kaepernick vaguely bitches about "racial oppression in 2016", non-SJWs know it's bullshit.

9/19/2016 11:53:06 PM

Why are you so opposed to the reform of a corrupt government agency?

9/20/2016 7:17:17 AM

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"The way you are framing this makes me think you missed my point. Replace "dangerous" with any negative word, it isn't material to what I'm saying. My point is whenever there is a terrorist attack, the right says "see, terrorism is bad, harsher immigration policies, more vetting, Islam is dangerous etc. Then the left shits themselves #NotAllMuslims. Which makes sense, because its not statistically representative of immigrants (as you said). However the exact same side switches logic entirely when it fits their narratives. I.e statistically rare shootings = we need gun control, or statistically rare unjustified shootings of blacks = black people are oppressed."

Except the right's chosen presidential candidate is screaming 'MUSLIMS?! NOT IN MY COUNTRY!' and all of you cheer while the left's is the one actually in favor of more stringent background checks of immigrants/refugees, so I'm not sure where you're getting your argument.

9/20/2016 7:49:01 AM

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" such a reasonable argument was Kaepernick's message, there would likely not be such a controversy. Instead we have fabricated division because your side (the unreasonable one) can't differentiate between a Tamir Rice and Mike Brown shooting. Your side doesn't care if its a justified shooting or an unjustified shooting, your side just cares about fabricating a victimhood narrative, hence when Kaepernick vaguely bitches about "racial oppression in 2016", non-SJWs know it's bulls"

How about both the Cleveland and Ferguson police departments are now under court ordered monitoring programs because investigations after each of those respective shootings turned up widespread brutality, illegal searches, tax collection/onerous fine schemes, illegal use of force, etc etc etc. And that, in each case, the primary target of those practices was Black People. Did the justice department fabricate those vague investigations too?

9/20/2016 7:50:52 AM

^^^^

9/20/2016 9:11:47 AM

They found his notebook with a lot of rambling about terror

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" I was left to my own devices. Many days fell away with nothing to show. And the walls kept tumbling down in the city that we love. Great clouds roll over the hills bringing darkness from above. But if you close your eyes, does it almost feel like nothing changed at all? And if you close your eyes, does it almost feel like you've been here before? How am I gonna be an optimist about this? We were caught up and lost in all of our vices in your pose as the dust settled around us."

9/20/2016 11:30:40 AM