jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Maybe this is an opportunity that can offer them a low buy in with a lot of potential." |
You should probably switch "low" and "lot".10/31/2017 2:46:45 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28390 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "most reputable mlms and sellers don’t sell you on the business first. " |
LOL10/31/2017 3:07:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148801 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I’ve seen too many successes to just write these off as a scam." |
ah yes, the handful of successes, mainly by people who were in on the scam from day one, outweighs the 99% of suckers who get scammed10/31/2017 3:14:57 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, maybe not someone on Tee Dubb, but someone give me a friend (actual friend, not someone you met through MLM and is only "friends" with you because of that) who makes 6 figures in MLM.
Because there are so many idiots from my hometown drowning in this shit. 10/31/2017 4:07:55 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Lmao then you’ll be like, no someone give me family member who is a millionaire in this. Aye yay ya.
It’s ok y’all. You don’t have to believe just don’t be a dick to your friends trying something different. If you have constructive criticism that’s fine but don’t be rude. 10/31/2017 4:16:42 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
there was a couple in north raleigh who were i guess pretty high up in amway, they had a huge house but got in trouble with the FBI I think related to amway and the last i heard the house was auctioned 10/31/2017 4:18:38 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It’s ok y’all. You don’t have to believe just don’t be a dick to your friends trying something different. If you have constructive criticism that’s fine but don’t be rude. " |
except that you can't participate in an MLM without being a dick to other people10/31/2017 4:19:22 PM |
rtc407 All American 6217 Posts user info edit post |
The problem with MLM is that by the time you are selling yourself you're too involved to see the situation clearly. The successful sellers are narcissistic over the top type A and the rest are deluded into holding onto the promise of profit in exchange for self respect and empathy.
Yes, it is possible to make money but it is a guarantee that you will at best annoy your closest friends and family.
If you are successful at sales, find a reputable business and you will still find success without selling your soul, MLM doesn't make sales any easier. Most people are not cut out for sales. 10/31/2017 4:36:15 PM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
MLM = drain your friends and family , once dried up, you stop. 11/1/2017 9:23:10 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28390 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, if you're a good salesperson you can get a damn good paying job and not have to deal with making everyone in your life hate you.
I am terrible salesperson and could never do this. 11/1/2017 9:51:26 AM |
MrGreen All American 2281 Posts user info edit post |
if you sell this shit or anything like it you're a bad person (and your "friends" hate you) 11/1/2017 1:04:36 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Almost by definition, the people at the top of the pyramid *do* make money...... 11/1/2017 4:56:03 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28390 Posts user info edit post |
No one is denying that 11/1/2017 5:08:32 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
Since the mlm concept is so easy to look up and understand, I'm surprised there aren't more Kickstarter ideas that shift that way. Makers automatically start at the top of the pyramid and if they have a good product, it's easy to work the magic. 11/1/2017 8:24:52 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35386 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " You will be losing money initially as you build your business but if you stick with it and work it convince enough dumbasses to join up and also lose money you can see major gains." |
11/1/2017 8:31:55 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35386 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a fairly easy-to-get-along-with dude, but I have absolutely zero respect for pyramid schemers. They are scum. I would not piss in their ears if their brains were on fire. 11/1/2017 8:34:11 PM |
beatsunc All American 10767 Posts user info edit post |
i actually made $700 on a gifting pyramid once. you gave $100 to guy at top and once he got $800 he was out and the board split in 2, so the 2 guys below him were at the top. this was back before the internet, we used fax machines n shit
looked like this:
1 2a 2b 3a 3b 3c 3d 4a 4b 4c 4d 4e 4f 4g 4h 11/1/2017 9:36:17 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
So before Facebook, these were the creepers who would approach you in grocery stores and the like, striking up some bullshit conversation about cottage cheese with the goal of tricking you out right? 11/1/2017 10:46:54 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103355 Posts user info edit post |
i have no ulterior motives man, i just like talking about cottage cheese with new people 11/1/2017 10:54:17 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Oh and Best Buy! Those assholes were always in Best Buy. 11/1/2017 11:29:26 PM |
kiljadn All American 44691 Posts user info edit post |
Kiwi out here exhibiting that sunk cost fallacy 11/7/2017 8:34:08 AM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
I've been approached 4 times in the book section at Target, and 3 times while looking at the discount end-aisle stuff at Lowes/Home Depot. 11/7/2017 3:35:26 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42557 Posts user info edit post |
^ Was one of the Kiwi? 11/7/2017 4:17:16 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
One of the funnier things I hear defending their poor choice is: "BUT YOU CAN EARN MORE THAN SOMEONE ABOVE YOU!" So? The? Fuck? What? 11/10/2017 3:10:16 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
https://trib.al/CgmFYiI
Quote : | "Co-founders Mark Stidham and DeAnne Stidham appeared on CBS News this Wednesday to dismiss complaints that LuLaRoe, which enlists around 80,000 independent “consultants” to sell merchandise at home, is a pyramid scheme. “What that is is an uneducated opinion,” Mark Stidham said. “They haven’t looked at who we are because we sell product through to a consumer, and it’s highly-desirable product. That is not a pyramid scheme.”" |
[Edited on November 11, 2017 at 12:00 AM. Reason : ]11/10/2017 11:59:34 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42557 Posts user info edit post |
LOL at how consultant is thrown around these days by kids....
So what kind of a consultant are you? I am pediatric oncologist.
And what about you? I am a consultant for construction projects using high-strength steel.
And you? I sell yoga pants from my garage.
11/11/2017 12:35:28 AM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
I've been in the workforce now for over 30 years, done a lot of different things. I've been approached by countless acquaintances and friends, and even a good sized handful of strangers who had their fingers in the MLM pie. I think I was like 17 or 18 the first time I sat through someone's schpiel.
I don't know a single one who made a decent living, much less a fortune, doing this kind of shit. And the latest casualty? An office mate whose wife was doing Lularoe, and they lost money. I rolled my eyes the first time he said something about it. After it was all over, he was a little wiser. Don't know about her. 11/12/2017 5:52:55 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
How much did they lose?
What did they do with the excess inventory? 11/12/2017 6:00:32 PM |
ShawnaC123 2019 Egg Champ 46681 Posts user info edit post |
You want us to sell Amway?
It's Confederated Products. It's a different company. It's a different quality of product.
11/12/2017 8:38:20 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
^What's that from, it looks so familiar. I mean the guy was afraid to go there because he wasn't sure what they were going to talk to him about, and it turned out to be amway. It's on the tip of my tongue. 11/13/2017 9:23:53 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35780 Posts user info edit post |
Go 11/13/2017 9:38:45 AM |
Kickstand All American 11729 Posts user info edit post |
Is dot dot smile the newest iteration of mlm's? 11/13/2017 11:17:49 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Lula Roe sounds like the name of a 500 lb redneck woman.
More like LOSER Roe. 11/14/2017 8:46:59 AM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
I realize this thread is about Lularoe....which I do not dispute. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.
I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:
Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.
Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.
Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.
Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)
Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.
Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.
This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.
I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.
If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest! 11/16/2017 2:33:12 PM |
begonias warning: not serious 19581 Posts user info edit post |
well played sir 11/16/2017 9:15:01 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
These motherfuckers posting on facebook to support their "Small Business" Saturday. 11/25/2017 10:58:10 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28390 Posts user info edit post |
Well, that sounds better than Pyramid Scheme Saturday. 11/25/2017 11:13:28 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
I really wish I could say something about it on FB, but then everyone wants to ostracize you for BEING NEGATIVE. 11/25/2017 12:50:44 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19639 Posts user info edit post |
I know, they have invaded some local FB groups that support actual local businesses like shops in town. I really want to be like, please don't equate your scam pyramid scheme to an actual person who is running a real business. 11/25/2017 5:13:22 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
"This Small Business Saturday, help me get out of debt" 11/25/2017 5:20:54 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42557 Posts user info edit post |
Sex slavery disguised as a pyramid scheme disguised as a self-help program.
Smallville actress was the chief recruiter recruiting women for sexual favors under a false pretense.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/20/entertainment/allison-mack-arrested/index.html
Hope all guilty parties are jailed for a long long time. 4/21/2018 6:37:58 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11093 Posts user info edit post |
^WTF?
Quote : | "The indictment claims many so-called slaves were branded on their pelvic areas using a cauterizing pen with a symbol which, unbeknownst to them, incorporated Raniere's initials." |
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PaulISdead All American 8836 Posts user info edit post |
KR WUZ HERE 4/23/2018 3:29:15 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28390 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not sure what this has to do with lularoe being a pyramid scheme 4/23/2018 5:18:25 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62513 Posts user info edit post |
I am just working easily high profit job in spare time . I getting paid every week $3K to $7K.. i have made $130 to $175 per hour for online work and i have received $22685 in this month online work easily from home in part time. i am a full time university student and i do my online work in my part time easily from home. Every body can do this online work in part time by just open this link and follow instructions…… 4/24/2018 10:41:25 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25819 Posts user info edit post |
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BrookeRuff Meredith "Angel" 7599 Posts user info edit post |
So are doterra and scentsy. If one more person on fb tries to guilt me into buying from them to support their "small business" I'm going to lose it. 4/25/2018 7:11:07 PM |