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dmspack
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"but without Markell Keatt's first ACC season will most likely mimic's Doeren's. Pain lots of pain."


Markell can’t be so much of a help to this team.

1/4/2018 6:46:16 AM

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He's the team's facilitator, creator, best defender, and pace guy.

There's a reason it looks like we can't get any shots closer to the basket than ten feet out, and that's because no one on the floor for us knows how to create opportunities for other players on the offense.

With Markel this team is top half of the ACC. Without him, we go 0-fer and it's not even close. We lose every game by 20-30

1/4/2018 9:40:40 AM

dmspack
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i disagree that we're a top half team with him. obviously we're better with him...but still think we're a bottom half team regardless.

1/4/2018 9:52:57 AM

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Yeah we weren't a top half of the ACC team with Johnson. But we weren't going to get blown out every game with him. He is pretty clearly the best point guard on the team (and really the only one who should be seeing major minutes in the ACC this year.)

I personally don't expect to win many more games this season without him. Like 12 wins would be nice.

1/4/2018 10:22:15 AM

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In addition to being the best PG he's the most important player for KK's style of play, on both sides of the ball.

I don't know if we're top half ACC with him but it would have been nice to find out.

1/4/2018 12:05:25 PM

dmspack
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" don't know if we're top half ACC with him but it would have been nice to find out."


Yeah

1/4/2018 1:55:10 PM

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I would have said 8-10 with Markell, now 4-14 without.

[Edited on January 4, 2018 at 4:07 PM. Reason : If we can't hang with Pitt, Wake, BC, etc. then we might start questioning Keatts hire]

1/4/2018 4:06:57 PM

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maaybe keatts can only coach one way so that wouldn't be fair. he might be really good at coaching that one way so we need to wait until year 3 to start criticizing him for not being able to coach that one way.

1/4/2018 4:13:37 PM

dmspack
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"If we can't hang with Pitt, Wake, BC, etc. then we might start questioning Keatts hire"



The bottom of the acc (which includes us) is pretty bad. So yeah, if we’re losing by 20 to them that’s not encouraging. But in general I don’t think we need to be reading too much into this year. Total rebuild.

1/4/2018 4:45:11 PM

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^^^ Don't be too surprised. Wake and BC are a better team at the moment. The only team I think we're slightly better than is Pitt. Markell was the lynchpin of this team, it's no coicidence that our two best wins are with him and all our blow out loses are without him.

[Edited on January 4, 2018 at 4:45 PM. Reason : ...]

1/4/2018 4:45:31 PM

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whoa whoa whoa... This dude is coaching with a rag tag group of Gott recruits and grad transfers. There isn't ANY reason to question the hire until he gets his own recruits in here even if he goes 0 fer in the ACC.

I still think he is the guy and we have bigtime talent issue (he has even mentioned as much in interviews).

1/4/2018 4:57:10 PM

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You guys are nuts if you think Markell is making up a 30 point difference

1/4/2018 5:39:43 PM

dmspack
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^ nobody said we’re winning that game with Markell

1/4/2018 6:00:07 PM

justinh524
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Markell is the difference between going winless in the ACC and a final four run.

1/4/2018 6:16:18 PM

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. We win last night going away with Markell in the lineup.

1/4/2018 6:26:33 PM

stevedude
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Saturday's game is gonna be realllllllll fun

1/4/2018 8:20:48 PM

tulsigabbard
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history says we win saturday

[Edited on January 4, 2018 at 8:47 PM. Reason : plus its the first home game of the season]

1/4/2018 8:47:14 PM

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"Markell is the difference between going winless in the ACC and a final four run."


Kewl strawman Burro.

1/4/2018 9:29:15 PM

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A win against Duke would be huuuuuge, but I think we don't stand a chance after the last month of games.

1/4/2018 9:30:45 PM

rwoody
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^^maybe I'm giving Justin too much credit but I think he's expanding on towers strawman that Markell would have single handedly won the game for is last night

1/4/2018 9:34:57 PM

dmspack
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^yup

1/5/2018 6:57:57 AM

justinh524
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Markell Johnson is the greatest point guard in basketball history.

1/5/2018 7:43:22 AM

dmspack
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say that to marques johnson's face

1/5/2018 9:01:45 AM

justinh524
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Ok I just did. We FaceTimed.

1/5/2018 9:38:47 AM

dmspack
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send him my best. hope he's well

1/5/2018 9:56:17 AM

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