ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but Finley seems to have decent receivers around him as well." |
I'd argue that this is the best receiving corps, as a whole, we've had in my lifetime.
In terms of raw talent and potential for guys I've been alive to see pay, I'd actually see it as Rivers, Wilson, Finley, Brisette, and then Glennon.
Rivers should have multiple rings but stayed on a Spanos run Chargers team too long. Wilson is excellent. Finley has great vision, a good arm, pretty sound judgement, and good accuracy. I think he has more NFL potential than Glennon ever will. Brisette is interesting with his added run element and I think he should be starting somewhere. I like Glennon, but he fits a very particular system and I think he's been under tremendous pressure every start he's ever had - either behind our dogshit o-line and butterfinger receivers, or in some play to win the starting job type of ordeal with the media/fan favorite right at his heels. I hope I'm wrong and he becomes a true starter somewhere but I see more potential in Finley or Brisette for that.10/12/2018 5:03:00 PM |
jakis Suspended 1415 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25006915/nc-state-wolfpack-quarterback-ryan-finley-wasting
i fell asleep reading this 10/18/2018 1:51:18 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""It's a fine line between being a douche and being competitive," Finley said. "A lot of us in college football, we're always battling with who we are and who we want to become."" |
10/18/2018 2:13:52 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
haha wow. 10/18/2018 3:24:32 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53062 Posts user info edit post |
[/thread] 10/20/2018 5:17:40 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
BUT HE READS BOOK! 10/20/2018 5:53:31 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Guys are covered receivers have to make plays 10/20/2018 6:07:45 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Most overrated QB in nc state history 10/20/2018 6:12:13 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Haters out in full force today vs #2 team in the country 10/20/2018 6:14:00 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
They're #3 there trump 10/20/2018 6:52:46 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, all you haters need to appreciate our golden prince. 10/20/2018 6:53:23 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
^^ah you're right Ohio state is def better than clemson you're right
^fuck off with the straw man bullshit
[Edited on October 20, 2018 at 7:02 PM. Reason : E] 10/20/2018 7:01:50 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Who says Ryan Finley is made of straw? I'll fight a man who says such about our boy. First QB off the board. 10/20/2018 7:04:55 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
I love a good loss to let the trolls come out. Need you guys to get your work in and talk about how much you hate NC State 10/20/2018 7:06:24 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I love a good loss" |
Weird Flex, But Ok.10/20/2018 7:09:03 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
You just get so little chance to post when things are going well I'm trying to be happy for you 10/20/2018 7:10:38 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
When were they going well?
JMU? 10/20/2018 7:11:12 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
We've been saying it for two years.. Just easier to point it out to everyone else when we lose.. He's a good college qb.. Not anything great 10/20/2018 7:11:27 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
The only people that think he's superstar are imaginary. Most of us think he's a good college qb, and the Justin et al think he's garbage 10/20/2018 7:13:50 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
My needle has teetered between Decent and Garbage this year. I was all in last year.
Er I mean, FINLEY IS GREAT. DRAFT WORTHY. 10/20/2018 7:16:21 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
He has generally played a little worse this year. Not having much of a running game didn't help. Two really bad picks at BC. All that said, he wasn't bad today. Lots of bad drops. The first pick hit the receiver in the hands. Second he threw into coverage but maybe expected Emezie to beat out a LB. Receivers were covered pretty well all day (and being hit early IMO) so his job was pretty tough.
Also, PFF isn't perfect but also isn't a state fan and they've rated him pretty well. I would also bet alot that he gets drafted, whether he's "draft worthy" or not 10/20/2018 7:21:45 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Of course he's going to be drafted. But if he's a first round pick he'll be a massive failure. 10/20/2018 7:25:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
you probably would've said that about Bitch Trubisky too 10/20/2018 7:28:33 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Trubisky does suck fucking dick. AND he's not that good at football 10/20/2018 7:30:16 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
He is still terrible. But he also has the physical attributes desired in a modern NFL qb. 10/20/2018 7:30:38 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
This must be really fun for you justin 10/20/2018 7:31:34 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Trubisky has 9 TD and 1 INT in the last 2 games 10/20/2018 7:33:48 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. Must be the first qb in history to have one great game and one good game in modern NFL. I'm sold 10/20/2018 7:35:01 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
^^fun isn't the right word. I feel vindicated. Losing still sucks. 10/20/2018 7:38:34 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Hey good news: for nc state football 2018 season, it doesn't matter at all whether Finley will be an NFL qb 10/20/2018 7:39:01 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
GNSP. He reminds me of Chad Pennington, not much arm strength and if he anticipates well he can look good, but was late on most everything today. Unfortunately I think he cost himself some serious money today in draft position. 10/20/2018 10:47:15 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ah you're right Ohio state is def better than clemson you're right" |
Hi10/20/2018 11:30:32 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Lol Justin is extending his victory lap into the Chatterbox
Quote : | "justinh524 (6:45) : I hope all y'all Finley dick eaters are ready to eat crow" |
10/21/2018 2:08:41 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
He does this every year though....when we have big games against the top teams he shits the bed. And this is the best group of WRs probably in NCSU history.
I can't imagine what RW Glennon or even Brissett could have done with this group.
Having said that....he is still probably the 2/3 best QB in the ACC and we will be favored in every game left. 10/23/2018 12:06:23 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Finley shit the bed but I don't recall RW winning very many of our big games either. I do remember him losing a game to ECU.
[Edited on October 23, 2018 at 12:45 AM. Reason : this years WR group dropped a few key opportunities early in the game] 10/23/2018 12:43:47 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty sad if the "best WRs in school history" have that many drops off their hands and balls they let the defensive backs rip away from them
[Edited on October 23, 2018 at 1:01 AM. Reason : haters gonna hate]
[Edited on October 23, 2018 at 1:01 AM. Reason : boozie just finishing walking his dog, then kicking him, and decided to post] 10/23/2018 1:00:53 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Finley has a better record than RW 10/23/2018 10:46:46 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He does this every year though....when we have big games against the top teams he shits the bed. And this is the best group of WRs probably in NCSU history. " |
Maybe in 2016, but he was pretty solid in all the big games last year.
He threw for 338 yards and 3 TDs last year against Clemson. Not what I'd call shitting the bed.
He also had 367 yards in the game against Louisville, going against the heisman trophy winner on national TV.10/23/2018 6:13:11 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Glad to see he finished strong. It seems like the last few games he has been throwing too high. I know he likes to let our receivers go up and get the ball but some passes seem to be floaters. 10/28/2018 10:07:50 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Saw this in the comments section on a backing the pack article
Quote : | "Since Finley took over the reins we have had 8 games where we entered the last 5 minutes of the game tied or down by a possession or less. We are 0-8 in those games.
2016 ECU 2 possessions 2 turnover on downs 2016 Clem 2 possessions missed field goal, interception 2016 BC 1 possesion interception 2016 FSU 1 possession turnover on downs 2017 SC 2 possessions 2 turnover on downs 2017 Clem 1 possession interception 2017 WF 2 possessions fumble, interception 2018 Syr 1 possession interception" |
So Finley is 0-8 on game winning drives. That's pretty good, right?10/29/2018 2:13:27 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Even at first glance, 2016 clemson and 2017 WF, while technically true, are a crock on that list. So your argument is that with a competent kicker and a goal line camera, finely is a much better qb? 10/29/2018 2:16:13 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not making any argument, I just said I copy and pasted that.
Just saying it doesn't surprise me that Finley is not clutch. My eyes have been telling me that for almost 3 years now. 10/29/2018 2:26:45 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So Finley is 0-8 on game winning drives. That's pretty good, right?" |
Oh good point thats a super neutral statement my bad10/29/2018 2:31:39 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm not making any argument" |
[Edited on October 29, 2018 at 2:32 PM. Reason : ]10/29/2018 2:32:33 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
justinh524:
Quote : | "These wrs would make Daniel Evans look like Aaron Rodgers" |
That was your cue to stop taking anything this guy says seriously. How anyone that lived through the Davis, Stone, Beck, Evans years can so easily compare that atrocious QB play to what we have now is beyond me. Ignore him as if he were a troll.
[Edited on October 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM. Reason : ]10/29/2018 3:38:33 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sorry that I'm realistic and not on the OMG FINLEY FOR #1 DRAFT PICK hype train. I watch us play and see a guy who is plenty smart and usually takes what the defense gives and makes good reads, but he's never going to put a team on his back and go win a game. He doesn't have elite accuracy, which hurts in the redzone when the passing windows get smaller. His highlight reel passes are a bunch of jump balls to Harmon, not threading the needle to hit a guy in stride.
Also he does have best WR group I've ever seen, even though he routinely tries to kill them by throwing high over the middle to them. And I stand by that statement - these receivers would make anyone look good.
He's clearly better than Davis and Stone and Evans and Pete Thomas, but he's also clearly nowhere near the QB that Rivers (or Wilson) was. 10/29/2018 6:42:33 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "OMG FINLEY FOR #1 DRAFT PICK " |
Jesus christ, nobody is on the that hype train but the demons in your imagination. How dumb/stubborn/trolly do you have to be to keep bringing that dumb strawman up over and over again10/29/2018 7:35:48 PM |
titans78 All American 4035 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also he does have best WR group I've ever seen" |
Lol wut?10/29/2018 8:58:05 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
To flip and give the benefit of the doubt, this might easily be the best wr group to ever play at nc state. 10/29/2018 11:34:43 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "best I've ever seen" |
Quote : | "might easily be the best ever" |
[Edited on October 29, 2018 at 11:56 PM. Reason : that escalated quickly!]10/29/2018 11:55:50 PM |