https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina-state/longformarticle/nc-state-basketball-coaching-search-will-wade-ryan-odom-headline-top-candidates-to-replace-kevin-keatts-246800082/#2614014

One of these is not like the others.

My first thought was that this guy has a great agent (getting his name out for a pay raise), but I guess it kind of makes sense. Xavier is paying him a big salary, but their budget is miniscule and reportedly the NIL pot is on the low side. Dude's salary is ~15% of their entire athletic budget. I'd take him if we could have him.

[Edited on March 10, 2025 at 9:33 PM. Reason : link]

3/10/2025 9:32:59 PM

Rick Barnes
Shaka Smart
Tom Gugliotta
Will Wade
Dave Odom
Ryan Odom
Justin Gainey
Slimy Sean Miller
Ben McCollum
Julius Hodge
Kevin Corchiani

3/10/2025 10:18:26 PM

McCollum or Wade or we're back here again in another 6 years

3/11/2025 3:25:55 AM

I’d be happy with McCollum or Wade. Don’t know why but Odom doesn’t excite me. But others have a high opinion of him.

Lol just realized Odom coaches Jack Clark

[Edited on March 11, 2025 at 6:30 AM. Reason : D]

3/11/2025 6:23:13 AM

After reading way too many articles, I have come to the conclusion that any information about NIL funding in the public view is 99% made up either by schools trying to trip each other up or by a school's own administration trying to drum up donations.

Also, according to Chris Vurnakes, NIL collective signups have spiked since we fired Keatts, so the public "NC State is the poorest school in the P54" narrative might be working as intended.

3/11/2025 1:35:08 PM

new signups count the people who give like 10 bucks, which i have seen posted on the twitters. The number of new signups is meaningless. The only thing that matters is the total dollars. They won't tell you that because it's not a good look for them.

Quote :

"And it sounds like our NIL is middle of the road in the ACC already,"

We are much closer to the bottom of the ACC in NIL than the top. There's a pretty big gap between the haves and the have-nots and we are decidely a have-not. Also, revenue sharing will have caps so schools will be on a pretty even playing field there unless they choose not to spend the full amount allowed. That's why I am not concerned with that, because unless the school decides to handicap itself that number will be on par with any ACC/SEC/B1G school. It will not help to make up any ground in the NIL race because other schools will spend just as much.

Probably doesn't help that the football nil group was(is? IDK i don't keep up with this shit) ran by a huge grifter who was clearly using it for personal benefit. Oh and he also just happens to be a big elon/trump guy. What a weird coincidence!

Hahaha i see on the 1pack website that they got the guy from the fuckin paysites on staff. I wonder if he can get his kids hired here too like he did with making them "nc state insiders." Jfc grifters gonna grift

3/11/2025 2:02:56 PM

LOL, ok Mr. Pessimistic. You keep posting how we're at the bottom of everything with no numbers. Do you work for our collective by chance?

3/11/2025 2:16:11 PM

You're right there are no NIL numbers. BUT THERE ARE ATHLETIC DONATIONS NUMBERS. and it stands to reason those numbers would be closely correlated because prior to NIL that's where the people who are donating to NIL donated! And guess what? We were dead last of all public schools in the ACC!!! They didn't just find a bunch of new people to give money who previously were giving none! We didn't just make up a bunch of ground because the NC State fan base is chock full of people who felt very strongly that athletes should be paid so they decided to start giving millions of dollars a year that they previously withheld.

Sorry that I'm not putting on rose-colored glasses to think that NC State is just the greatest.

3/11/2025 2:22:06 PM

hear me out, what if we save money on a coach and use ChatGPT or Grok. what cheaper.

3/11/2025 2:38:58 PM

^^ what documentation says we are dead last?

3/11/2025 2:43:26 PM

I have posted this before. It's from the knight commission. https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-sports-top-donors-ranking-the-most-generous-athletics-boosters-214986422/
Basically looked at donations to athletics from like 2005-2022 for all public universities (because only they are subject to public record laws)

If you do a little math, UNC (who was only ranked 30th to our 45th) averaged over $7 million more a year. FSU (tops in the ACC) averaged $18 million more a year! 2.5x more than us!

That's why i find it amusing that the NIL collectives here are bragging about raising $76k since Keatts was fired. https://x.com/SavageWolvesNIL/status/1898879147713167800
Like that's literally nothing in the big picture. Doesn't make a goddamn bit of difference. We are so far behind the schools that the fans expect to compete with.

3/11/2025 2:53:13 PM

Ok, I've dismissed that source for one simple reason. Scroll down to #1 and look at this sentence:

Quote :

"In 2016, Knight donated $500 million to the University of Oregon's science program exclusively."

That 500mil is not for athletics. It was for a research campus. Half of Oregon's money that they're counting didn't even go towards athletics. So how the hell are they even cooking up these numbers?

3/11/2025 3:03:17 PM

You do know Phil Knight has given like billions to Oregon right? I'm not sure that $500 million that they mention is even included in the $969M figure. Could just be 247 writers taking liberties. I'd trust the USA Today/Knight commission people who actually made the list to do a little research on things.

But hey you can live with your head in the sand and think NC State is on a level playing field with the rest of the ACC if you want! Your alternative facts are none of my business!

Personally i have just chosen to care a lot less about college athletics in this modern age. NCAA sports are just like a worse MLB (is that even possible?) in terms of the haves and have-nots. At least penny-pinching MLB teams can suck long enough to draft good players and keep them for a little while and maybe be good for a single year before being awful again. There's pretty much no chance of that in the modern NCAA since players can just leave for greener pastures any time. Until there is collective bargaining/salary cap/athletes as employees, major college athletics will be largely influenced by who has the most money. And NC State is not close to having the most money so it's better not to care.

3/11/2025 3:13:28 PM

"It supports my point therefore I'm going to ignore the fact that it has obvious factual errors and look like a lazy fluff piece."


LOL, this is a dumb argument anyway. I don't really care if you think we're at the bottom for basketball or not. We clearly aren't. And anyone that knows anything about college athletics budgets realizes we're in a pretty good position. We don't need to be Duke's level to actually have an exciting basketball program that goes to the tournament most years.

[Edited on March 11, 2025 at 3:26 PM. Reason : .]

3/11/2025 3:24:19 PM

No, it's some lazy 247 writer taking liberties with actual journalism.

Do you honestly think that a bunch of SEC schools are Florida State are getting 2-3 times the amount of donations than NC State to build libraries? C'mon dude.

3/11/2025 3:25:19 PM

But fine here: https://knightnewhousedata.org/

Look for your goddamn self. it clearly states where the money comes from. You can look up every school. And limit it to donor contributions (this is specifically for athletics and says so on the goddamn webpage). You'll get a year by year accounting.

I just link the damn 247 article because it's easier because it's a fucking organized list.

They have the 2023 numbers on there now and we did make a big jump! That year we are on par with UNC. But still like 60 million less than Clemson for the same year and 30 million less than FSU. UNC is weird though because they essentially haven't had any growth in donations in like 10 years while most other P4/5 schools have seen increases during the same time frame.


And again, this shit isn't perfect because this is decidedly not NIL, but it's a pretty safe bet that the majority of NIL budgets are coming from the same big money donors who have historically helped fund athletic departments. So i feel pretty confident in saying NC State is lagging behind in NIL budget. And that the gulf between the best schools and the rest is very large.

3/11/2025 3:45:29 PM

Curiuous to see the data over last 3 years/5 years/10 years. Also not sure where they got 216,I got 230. Who is bored enough to go through all the data?

https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances
https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/199193

3/11/2025 3:47:16 PM

I don't doubt the top schools get a shit ton more money. But most of it goes to football and you're posting in a basketball thread.

Also, the fact that FSU has so much money, and still only paid Leonard Hamilton 2.25mil base, tells you everything you need to know about this debate. Yeah, we are pretty low down the pole in football -- it is actually kind of impressive what Doeren has done with so little to build on. Even so, donors have shown up when the team has shown some success and the school asked for something (the indoor football practice field, bailing out the athletic department during Covid, etc). And NIL collective or not, I bet some donors will find a way to make sure money isn't a reason for us to miss out on Gunner Rivers too.

Basketball is an entirely different story though. Just the revenue from our attendance numbers should make us relevant in the revenue-sharing era. We're still in the top 20 or so for attendance, and we're losing millions in revenue vs the Gottfried attendance numbers. We weren't even a consistently good team in that time period, but we were getting into the tourney and fun to watch.


^^ I'll take a look later -- i am legitimately curious where we truly rank, if there is a legit way to weigh the numbers. Picking an arbitrary start year and tallying up numbers is a questionable methodology. It ignores the time value of money (aka inflation). Some more recent fundraising activities would make it seem like we are doing pretty good though. Donors have paid for a shit ton of our infrastructure (like the football practice field) and paid to bail us out from the Covid shutdown. Some schools have taken out huge debt to cover similar infrastructure and Covid costs because they didn't have the donors show up. There are many schools with bigger debt maintenance costs than our entire debt load.

[Edited on March 11, 2025 at 3:55 PM. Reason : ..]

3/11/2025 3:47:54 PM

Man, i just can't with you. These are cold, hard numbers that say "NC State is near the bottom in P5 donor money" and you just say UH WELL THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY MATTER WE SHOULD BE GOOD.

Revenue sharing doesn't really fucking matter in the grand scheme of who is going to be good because there is a hard cap on it and every single major program will spend to that hard cap. Our basketball attendance doesn't matter one goddamn iota in terms of his much money a player will get paid. You seem real hung up on this revenue sharing and how it is going to help us, but it won't because it will help every other school were competing with equally.

3/11/2025 3:58:42 PM

I'm confused why you think revenue won't matter? Revenue is king, that's why they wanted revenue sharing. You can't make multi-year budgeting decisions based on donor money -- it is too sporadic. That's why a lot of donor money is funneled to endowments or infrastructure.

It won't help other schools equally because they don't have the same ratios of revenue between football and basketball. Did you see the Texas Tech example? The big football schools aren't going to say "oh football is so rich, let me take some of their 22% and give it to basketball." They're going to say "shit, we gotta keep up with Texas and Ohio State, let me spend every bit I can legally and politically get away with on football."



[Edited on March 11, 2025 at 4:07 PM. Reason : .]

3/11/2025 4:02:49 PM

@justinh#s

There are quite a few donors to nc state and nc state athletics that will
Never show up on that report. There’s big money that can be tossed around at nc state where it needs to be by big donors who can, in fact, easily make up some of the gaps you’re referencing in this Knight report

Just because it’s not referenced there doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. BIG money heavyweights that can change that report with one swipe of the pen.

3/11/2025 4:12:52 PM

Justin is right (imo) about the rev sharing. It’s roughly an equal playing field. Yes, one school could shift their allocations around differently than another to make an extra million or two available to, say, men’s basketball and take it away from other areas. But that feels like the most drastic difference I could imagine among the P4 teams.

It’s like the phrasing UNC used to announce that Belichick and the football team would have a $20M war chest to go get the best players. Well, yeah, that’s just rev share that they’re allocating to football + NIL. Which is probably something like $6M of NIL and $14M from the rev share. Most big time football programs will have that and more available to them. The same can be applied to basketball.

[Edited on March 11, 2025 at 4:56 PM. Reason : H]

^ isn’t that generally the case for all these schools? when they need a big check for a buyout or whatever, there are people who can write those checks. That money isn’t coming out the regular donations.

[Edited on March 11, 2025 at 4:58 PM. Reason : F]

3/11/2025 4:53:25 PM

Iowa's football revenue is 86mil out of a total 114mil. Their men's basketball is 11.4mil. That's 70% for football and 10% for men's bball. 10% of the 20.5mil spending cap is 2.05mil. Meanwhile, our calculation comes out to 4.4mil for basketball. The difference there is an entire NIL budget for a middle of the road ACC basketball team (supposedly). Please explain where I'm going wrong on bigger basketball revenue mattering.

It doesn't matter that the football numbers dwarf the basketball numbers. They're not going to budget disproportionately to basketball revenue unless maybe they're a very one dimensional school, and none of those exist in the P4.

[Edited on March 11, 2025 at 5:11 PM. Reason : .]

3/11/2025 5:09:01 PM

I’m not really buying that that rev share funds will allocated in that way (based off current revenues of each sport). I think rev share funds will be allotted pretty similarly for most P4 schools because they all want to be competitive. They’re already deciding how to allocate funds, it’s just NiL funds instead of rev share. I guess I’m just basing that off my hunch rather than any thing concrete I’ve seen or read.

3/11/2025 5:49:16 PM

The last seven posts on page 2 of the “2023*** NCSU COACHING SEARCH OFFICIAL THREAD*****” on The Wolf Web forum discuss potential candidates to replace NC State’s basketball coach, Kevin Keatts, and the university’s standing in Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) funding:
1. Talage shares a 247sports.com article listing coaching candidates, noting that one candidate stands out due to his high salary relative to his current school’s budget, and expresses interest in hiring him.
2. Kickstand lists several potential coaching candidates, including Rick Barnes, Shaka Smart, Will Wade, Ryan Odom, and others.
3. tower asserts that hiring either Ben McCollum or Will Wade is crucial to avoid another coaching search in six years.
4. dmspack expresses enthusiasm for McCollum or Wade but is less excited about Odom, acknowledging others’ high opinions of him and noting Odom’s connection to player Jack Clark.
5. Talage observes that public information on NIL funding is often unreliable, possibly used by schools to influence each other or solicit donations. Mentions that NC State’s NIL collective sign-ups have increased since Keatts’ firing, suggesting that the narrative of NC State being underfunded may be strategic.
6. justinh524 cautions that the number of new NIL sign-ups is less important than the total dollars raised, suggesting NC State’s NIL is closer to the bottom of the ACC. Mentions issues with the football NIL group’s management and expresses skepticism about certain individuals involved.
7. Talage questions justinh524’s pessimism and lack of specific numbers, humorously asking if he works for the collective.

These posts reflect the community’s engagement in evaluating coaching prospects and concerns about NIL funding’s impact on the program’s future.




I asked to summarize the last 7 posts...is this a fair assessment?

3/11/2025 6:50:33 PM

^ 8. Talage threatens to make an AI bot to continue this debate 24/7 until a new coach is announced.

^^ It all goes back to Title IX. They don't actually know for sure because the final deal hasn't been approved ( largely due to the Title IX question) but...

I think the general assumption schools are making is that they can adhere to Title IX by using a proportionate revenue share model across their athletic department. And that is falling inline so far with the schools we've seen numbers for. It also just makes sense from an organizational budgeting standpoint -- the entity that gets the revenue is going to expect a proportionate share.

There is a slight, but IMO very unlikely possibility of the outcome you're thinking about. Basically, to dodge Title IX, they might have to have the conference distribute the revenue share money to the athletes -- and maybe that has to follow conference averages rather than cater to each school's ratios. I think it is unlikely to happen for several reasons. The biggest one being because that would mean one group or another of the plaintiffs are agreeing to take revenue share away from their sport. And also, a large group of plaintiffs (aka women's sports) would be agreeing to basically allow themselves to be cut completely out of the revenue share if the conference/schools chose to.

3/11/2025 7:39:36 PM

From Justin#'s link:
Total revenue

North Carolina State University at Raleigh
2023
$121,444,506.00
2023
100.00%

3/11/2025 7:47:53 PM

^ That's the revenue, we were talking about donations.

I really don't think this data set is accounting for all the donations. Like, where is the 14mil in Close-King money circa 2013-15? Except for two years, the database lists relatively steady amount of donor contributions that increase a little year-over-year. Maybe that's the base line the WPC cuts each year from their endowments and seat "donations"?

The only big one-time pots of donation money that I can spot going directly into the athletic department budget is the COVID bailout in 2021 and an extra ~15mil in 2023. Unclear if that is from the 13mil endowment fund drive or maybe the Doak field drive? I'm pretty sure it can't include both, b/c the Doak field drive was supposedly like 10-15mil by itself. So it doesn't seem like all the big one-time money is being accounted for in these numbers. That might be a side effect of the way a lot of our funds flow through outside entities like the WPC and maybe the Centennial Authority?

Heck man, I just realized they raised so much more for the Doak Field work that they went back and bumped the project scope another 5mil. Yeah, I think we'll be able to do just fine for Will Wade.

3/11/2025 10:19:16 PM

I hear Leonard Hamilton is available

3/11/2025 10:42:39 PM

^ LOL, that would resolve the NIL/donor debate. We would definitely be dead last.


[Edited on March 11, 2025 at 11:10 PM. Reason : ^^ almost forgot the Reynolds Coliseum money in 2015/16 -- that's 20mil more]

3/11/2025 11:09:08 PM

I see all of it, even with a rev share cap because there will still be ways to pay out more, being irrelevant for a school like ours.

If we raise 10 million, the tier above us will pay out 15 million. If we pay out 15 million, the tier above us will pay out 20.

The baseball analogy is really good. Even when a club steps up and tries to spend for a small stretch the top 3-4 spending teams just come back over the top. I think it’s more important we find a coach who understands that we will give him a solid level of resources and he needs to have a strategy to maximize that, just like in baseball where lower spending teams find a way to compete. The solution of “give me enough to be where the top spenders are” won’t work because those top spenders will always just move the number and unless there is a drastic system change we will always be proportionally somewhere to the middle/bottom. Unless we get some donor who just comes in and drops $500 million into a bucket and totally change our situation, we can def squeeze some more dollars but everyone is doing that so it’s not getting us ahead.

3/12/2025 8:19:33 AM

Yes we will never be spending in the top tier. Thats true.

3/12/2025 8:29:19 AM

Today, Giglio thinks the list is Mike White, Ryan Odom, Mike Brey, or Justin Gainey.

Unclear why he dropped Will Wade (maybe he's buying the Indiana hires Brownell, Clemson gets Wade scenario?)

Mike White might actually be a nice hire -- but unless he's feeling some heat, or maybe UGA has signaled they're about to torpedo basketball b/c of revenue sharing, I feel like we'd have to significantly overpay for him.

Mike Brey seems like a bad idea. He's got the resume in theory, but what the hell happened the last 7 years at ND? Also, didn't he have them playing some dreadful princeton hybrid?

[Edited on March 12, 2025 at 2:30 PM. Reason : shit, I just looked up UGA's basketball ticket sales -- we are getting Mike White y'all]

3/12/2025 2:27:14 PM

3/12/2025 2:52:15 PM

Quote :

"Unclear why he dropped Will Wade"

Because Wade said no thanks

Mike White and Mike Brey are terrible choices. Mike White is incredibly average at best. He got pushed out at Florida because he took over for Billy Donovan and led them to becoming a .500 SEC team. Mike Brey is old and average.
He has as many finishes below 500 in the ACC as he did above and 4 years during his ACC tenure where their overall record was sub .500. These are not coaches you interview, let alone hire if you're serious about fielding a winning basketball team.

3/12/2025 3:05:54 PM

Checking in here.


Do we have a men's bball coach yet?

3/12/2025 3:22:49 PM

Yeah it's me, they just haven't announced it yet

[Edited on March 12, 2025 at 3:24 PM. Reason : We are going to play 5 bigs at one time, all in the paint together]

3/12/2025 3:23:56 PM

Good luck, coach!
Please consider this rule from the rule book when playing your 5 bigs.

Quote :

"A player of a team with control in the front court shall not touch or be in the restricted area for more than 3 consecutive seconds. The restricted area is the free throw lane including boundary lines."

3/12/2025 4:10:21 PM

The offense involves all 5 guys running in a small circle that leaves the lane on either side momentarily. It's called the whirlpool offense you've probably never heard of it

3/12/2025 4:13:07 PM

Go get you 5 Australian recruits. That whirlpool would flow clockwise. Most NCAA defenses wouldn't know what hit them.

3/12/2025 4:47:27 PM

Quote :

"Because Wade said no thanks"

I'm not convinced that Boo is (was?) even pursuing Wade in the first place due to the baggage. It's gonna be Odom.

3/12/2025 4:58:08 PM

I have 0 interest in Mike White. Somebody would have to really sell me on him. Buying KK out for like $8M, then buying out Mike White and giving him a raise on his current salary (3.4M)…what are we even doing? That’s like a $18M investment in choosing White over KK and I’m not convinced it’s an upgrade. (Yes I know the buyout is paid out over time and not in one lump sum but it’s still a huge investment in Mike fucking White)

No thanks to Brey. He’s a good coach annd had a good run at ND and would’ve been a good hire like 12 years ago. But didn’t he leave ND partly due to frustrations with NIL? Thought I remember reading an article recently where he was complaining about players or recruits asking for raises and shit. We need a coach that’s gonna embrace this era.

Odom or Gainey are fine with me.

3/12/2025 5:24:46 PM

I refuse to believe that we are incompetent enough to pay $8 million just so we could replace KK with White or Gainey

3/12/2025 5:49:46 PM

Quote :

"I’m not convinced it’s an upgrade."

That's because it's not. Mike White is like the anti-herb but not in any way that's good. Took over a great program and made it very mediocre, unlike herb who took over a big old pile of steaming garbage and made it respectable. Both then got ran out of town and landed in another power conference job where they again had mediocre results.

3/12/2025 5:57:04 PM

I’m not gonna pretend to know anything. But I don’t think Gainey would be a bad hire…at least in terms of perception, who knows how it actually plays out. It’s more and more common to hire basketball coaches without HC experience. Miami and FSU did it. And Gainey was supposedly in the mix for the FSU job. It’s different, but even UNC and Duke just hired coaches without previous HC experience.

Gainey has a solid resume and is gonna get a pretty good HC job sooner or later. He seems like he’s skipping past the low or mid major job and on track to land a P4/5 HC job soon.

If you think he’s the guy and has a bright future then now’s the time to get him imo.

I don’t even get why White would leave UGa. Make the tourney once every few years there and he’s set. No expectations.

[Edited on March 12, 2025 at 5:58 PM. Reason : G]

3/12/2025 5:57:05 PM

Need to hire an actual coach. Not an also ran (gottfried) or mediocre mid major (Keats). You have to be able to spot talent early and find someone that can, you know, coach basketball. The funding will follow.

3/12/2025 7:22:37 PM

Everybody thought KK was a good hire and that it was a well run search when that happened. We don’t have to pretend we all thought he was a mediocre mid major coach. If we didn’t hire him another P5 team would have. We weren’t suckers and idiots for hiring him just because he struggled here (he also hung two banners!)

We should simply identify a coach that will be a smashing success here and then go hire him!

[Edited on March 12, 2025 at 7:39 PM. Reason : H]

3/12/2025 7:38:31 PM

Quote :

"I refuse to believe that we are incompetent enough to pay $8 million just so we could replace KK with White or Gainey"

First time?

Why the Mike White hate? What's so exciting about Ryan Odom's resume vs Mike White's? The year before White took over at Florida, the team had tanked to a 16-17 record. He had them back in the elite 8 two years later and managed a 6-4 record in the NCAA tournament. His two bad years at Florida were COVID and then in 21-22 (the first year impacted by NIL/transfer portal) he went to the NIT and then bounced to UGA.

He did an even bigger turn around job on Georgia. Mark Fox had almost, sort of got them to respectability, and then Tom Crean ran them slam into the ground. Now, in just three years, White's got them back into the tournament while going up against possibly the most brutal season for any conference ever. The SEC is on track to break the bid record by 2 bids.


Odom inherited two already thriving basketball programs (Utah State and VCU). He's 0-3 in the tourney.

[Edited on March 12, 2025 at 7:41 PM. Reason : in fact 6-4 is better than Will Wade too at 2-4. Maybe Boo is on to something]

Quote :

"Everybody thought KK was a good hire"

I think KK probably does end up doing well at a P4 school someday, maybe even his next stop. He's got a lot of good coaching qualities, he just seemed very stubborn on some of the things he wanted to do -- which it is easy to get stuck in that place when you've had pretty rapid success doing it that way.

[Edited on March 12, 2025 at 7:49 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2025 7:39:32 PM

Odom makes me nervous because everybody does well at VCU so idk what to actually make of success.

Mike White looks mediocre as hell to me. He had a solid few years at UF before the SEC as a whole was as strong as it is now. Then he left town for UGa presumably because he wanted to reset his clock before getting canned at UF. Idk. I haven’t followed his career that closely. It just looks real meh to me.

[Edited on March 12, 2025 at 7:57 PM. Reason : F]

3/12/2025 7:45:51 PM

Quote :

"Odom makes me nervous because everybody does well at VCU so idk what to actually make of success."

But he's also done well at every school he's coached at so far, check out his turnaround at UMBC for instance:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/maryland-baltimore-county/men/

Quote :

"Odom inherited two already thriving basketball programs (Utah State and VCU). He's 0-3 in the tourney."

Huh? Odom's UMBC knocked off #1 UVA as a 16 seed in the 2018 tournament, probably the biggest tournament upset ever. Odom and White (UF) went on to lose in the second round but Odom's run was pretty impressive. Took over a trash UMBC program and beat the #1 overall seed in the tournament two years later.

[Edited on March 12, 2025 at 9:13 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2025 9:01:26 PM