The target="_blank" tag would be a nice touch

[Edited on September 5, 2025 at 2:24 PM. Reason : oh snap he is using them now ]

9/5/2025 2:24:01 PM

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"risk = hazard + outrage "

If the house has a swimming pool and a gun the child instantly dies.

Modernity is hiding and moving risk. Executives not responsible for killing people. Normies can't be given responsibility for their own actions. Or pooling risk when you shouldn't across populations.

Like in the above example from Freakonomics, I'd wager if you dig in the swimming fatals are all super young, and the risk factor decreases dramatically as the kid gets better at swimming.

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"Children under the age of 5 are the most vulnerable group, accounting for 75% of all fatal pool- or spa-related drownings and 77% of nonfatal, emergency department-treated injuries "

So older than 6 you hit a huge drop off and it becomes more like 1 in 90k. The gun thing would be better done by homes and not guns and correcting for parent home/not home. Context matters.

[Edited on September 5, 2025 at 2:47 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on September 5, 2025 at 2:48 PM. Reason : o]

9/5/2025 2:38:31 PM

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"For comparison, driving in the US results in 12 in 100,000 deaths (not including life changing injuries which arguably should probably be accounted), smoking something like 192 in 100,000 and the smoking companies lied about it for many years. 1 in 5 smokers can be expected to die in a lifetime as opposed to about 1 in 90 drivers (and the risk scales as you get older"

These are two things that absolutely need more regulation/avoidance! Driving regulations should almost definitely be stronger. Everybody speeds bc the penalties are so minor. Drivers kill pedestrian and get traffic violations instead of manslaughter. And they are both already age limited, for primary user anyway. Our society has also made it so a car is pretty much required anywhere in the US, people deal with more risk when faced with necessity. AI is not a necessity, yet anyway, so let's set up the proper regulations and responsibilities NOW before it becomes so ingrained it's impossible to peel back.

9/5/2025 3:28:51 PM

^ broadly agree as long as it's not used to stamp out competitors and regulation isn't used to keep Zuck, Altman, and Elon as the new lords of the world.

9/6/2025 2:14:18 PM

https://gabrielweinberg.com/p/ai-surveillance-should-be-banned

9/6/2025 3:32:00 PM

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-bubble-building-spree-55ee6128

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"Spending on AI Is at Epic Levels. Will It Ever Pay Off? Tech companies pour hundreds of billions into data centers, taking on heavy debt, but current revenue is relatively tiny; echoes of dot-com bubble This week, consultants at Bain & Co. estimated the wave of AI infrastructure spending will require $2 trillion in annual AI revenue by 2030. By comparison, that is more than the combined 2024 revenue of Amazon, Apple, Alphabet, Microsoft, Meta and Nvidia, and more than five times the size of the entire global subscription software market. Morgan Stanley estimates that last year there was around $45 billion of revenue for AI products. The sector makes money from a combination of subscription fees for chatbots such as ChatGPT and money paid to use these companies' data centers. How the tech sector will cover the gap is "the trillion dollar question," said Mark Moerdler, an analyst at Bernstein."

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"*The AI boom = one of the costliest building sprees in world history * Past 3 years' commitments are greater than the cost of building the U.S. interstate highway system * Consumers must spend $800 billion on AI within a few years, to justify investment from 2023-24"

https://bsky.app/profile/mims.bsky.social/post/3lzqmcknerc2m

[Edited on September 26, 2025 at 1:58 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2025 1:58:23 PM

I'm certainly not going to pay for a service for which I haven't found a valuable personal use case while "free".

9/26/2025 5:57:31 PM

https://www.404media.co/openais-sora-2-copyright-infringement-machine-features-nazi-spongebobs-and-criminal-pikachus/

10/1/2025 8:40:16 PM

As a software engineer I’m spending about $100/month on ai

Easily my most expensive monthly service at this point

10/1/2025 10:41:28 PM

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/robin-williams-daughter-ai-recreations-gross-1236541633/

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" Robin Williams’ Daughter Tells Fans to ‘Stop Sending Me AI Videos of Dad’: It’s ‘Gross’ and ‘Not What He’d Want’"

10/9/2025 1:04:31 AM

Why in the world would someone ever feel entitled to do that?

It's only one step better (?) than this:

10/10/2025 7:03:17 PM

https://blog.google/technology/ai/google-gemma-ai-cancer-therapy-discovery/

+1

10/15/2025 8:53:21 PM

Finally!

10/15/2025 9:11:28 PM

More of an economy posts but I couldn't find any good economy thread

https://www.theatlantic.com/economy/archive/2025/09/ai-bubble-us-economy/684128/?gift=XYkZ7NyIHnvK8O__kELYotEj4YazT-bPkhciN-nMo4E&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

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"In the first half of this year, business spending on AI added more to GDP growth than all consumer spending combined. Many experts believe that a major reason the U.S. economy has been able to weather tariffs and mass deportations without a recession is because all of this AI spending is acting, in the words of one economist, as a “massive private sector stimulus program.” An AI crash could lead broadly to less spending, fewer jobs, and slower growth, potentially dragging the economy into a recession. The economist Noah Smith argues that it could even lead to a financial crisis if the unregulated “private credit” loans funding much of the industry’s expansion all go bust at once."

[Edited on October 19, 2025 at 10:21 PM. Reason : E]

10/19/2025 10:20:50 PM

better be careful, you’re in danger of being accused of being triggered

10/19/2025 10:22:46 PM

this is a completely appropriate thread for that

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"AI added more to GDP growth than all consumer spending combined"

you're welcome. y'all need to pick up the pace.

[Edited on October 19, 2025 at 10:26 PM. Reason : jk I have nothing to do with AI I'm a serf just like y'all]

[Edited on October 19, 2025 at 10:26 PM. Reason : ^ no you calm down]

10/19/2025 10:25:44 PM

I'm a plebeian

10/20/2025 12:34:04 PM

Not great
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/racist-sora-snap-welfare

11/1/2025 10:17:48 PM

https://www.reuters.com/investigations/meta-is-earning-fortune-deluge-fraudulent-ads-documents-show-2025-11-06/

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"Meta is earning a fortune on a deluge of fraudulent ads, documents show Meta projected 10% of its 2024 revenue would come from ads for scams and banned goods, documents seen by Reuters show. And the social media giant internally estimates that its platforms show users 15 billion scam ads a day. Among its responses to suspected rogue marketers: charging them a premium for ads – and issuing reports on ’Scammiest Scammers.’"

11/6/2025 3:15:36 PM

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"Six people died from tampered Tylenol and the company pulled 30 million bottles off the market. ChatGPT is accused of urging seven people towards suicide, and OpenAI just assures us they’re still working out the kinks. Billions in investment, zero accountability."

https://apnews.com/article/openai-chatgpt-lawsuit-suicide-56e63e5538602ea39116f1904bf7cdc3
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/06/us/openai-chatgpt-suicide-lawsuit-invs-vis

https://bsky.app/profile/samadams.bsky.social/post/3m54tihdjx22w

[Edited on November 9, 2025 at 8:51 AM. Reason : E]

11/9/2025 8:50:15 AM

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DP7cHrOD3ha/

Grok speaks to the kids

11/10/2025 5:04:28 PM

Grok thinks a newt is a lizard.

WTAF?!

11/10/2025 7:07:04 PM

^Maybe Grok's talking about Gingrich?? idk

11/10/2025 7:31:35 PM

As an ai maximalist I’ve always thought, and still do, that OpenAI rushed to commercialization

But once people realized Ai could write code it was an arms race so this outcome was inevitable. Ai safety people like Timnit gebru (who I thought was a crank until I saw an interview with her a few months ago) were sounding the alarm about this for years and they were ignored.

It’s seeming like it’s basically impossible to prevent bad outcomes at the population level (trump, climate change, ai disinformation ), but we can try to mitigate the damage as much as possible and seize opportunities as they present themselves.

11/11/2025 2:33:47 AM

That Grok voice is creepy from the jump. I assume that's the intent. If so. . . cool.

11/11/2025 5:51:30 AM

https://prospect.org/2025/11/19/ai-bubble-bigger-than-you-think/

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"We have a 2000s housing bubble level of financial engineering on top of a 1920s level of private unregulated lending on top of something bigger than a 1990s internet (or 1870s railroad) level of technology and infrastructure build-out. It’s one bubble to rule them all."

11/19/2025 12:26:56 PM

[Edited on November 21, 2025 at 2:21 PM. Reason : this is the worst that AI will ever be for the rest of your life]

11/21/2025 2:20:55 PM

Skynet:

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"this is the worst that AI will ever be for the rest of your life"

8/4/1997 2:20:55 PM



(a funny joke)

11/21/2025 2:53:09 PM

11/21/2025 3:04:18 PM

Lmao

11/21/2025 3:33:00 PM

11/21/2025 3:42:35 PM

I really like that painting I first saw rwoody use in another thread as a meme. seems like it could be used for a lot of things

Love that 2nd pic though ^

11/21/2025 3:49:22 PM

Not sure if you used this but fyi
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/524144834/Skeleton-over-shoulder

11/21/2025 4:14:01 PM

Oh no, but will now, and google other similar things. I just downloaded pic and inserted text

[Edited on November 21, 2025 at 4:27 PM. Reason : So many things on the internet i still need to discover]

11/21/2025 4:26:38 PM

Just wait til you find porn!!

11/21/2025 4:41:30 PM

Hold up, let me put my Cock, Playboy magazine, and paper towel away first. I'll be right back....

11/21/2025 6:31:29 PM

All right, I'm good now.

Did you say the Internet has Porn??? Where?????

11/21/2025 6:32:21 PM

https://asimovaddendum.substack.com/p/are-llms-the-best-that-they-will

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"One often hears the refrain from AI optimists that “today’s LLMs are the worst that they’ll ever be.” Certainly, they have some compelling reasons for positivity: The technology is still very young, R&D spending is through the roof, and over the last couple of years we have seen rapid advances. Things can only get better, right? Well, no. In fact, I think there is a reasonable case to be made that today’s LLMs might be the best that they will ever be. The technology might continue to get better, but that doesn’t mean that the user experience will. Why? Primarily because no one knows how to make LLMs profitable."

11/25/2025 2:11:55 PM

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"The technology might continue to get better"

this is almost always what people mean when they say "today’s LLMs are the worst that they’ll ever be"

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"but that doesn’t mean that the user experience will. Why? Primarily because no one knows how to make LLMs profitable"

also valid and important.

in 2003 we might have said TWW is the worst that social media will ever be and it was perhaps true, as an avalanche of innovations sprouted up over the next decade. and then we saw google and facebook slide into bed with the advertising world so it could solve the "no one knows how to make social media profitable" problem and before long the beautiful new social media world rotted our brains and distorted our political environments. oops. but nobody wants to go back to using TWW for social media. onward we must go and learn from our mistakes in the new era.

i mostly get excited about the technological progress side bc i'm a nerd who likes to see humans discover and invent new things (and the prospect of the human mind being capable of giving birth to the AI gods would be our crowning achievement). over the last decade or so i've learned it's (perhaps even more) important to pay attention to the societal disruptions that technology brings, lest the people revolt and stop letting the nerds invent new things. i think a lot of people over the last decade or so have instead learned to be skeptical of or resistant to new technology. i think that's a terribly tragic overreaction and i think it's what most "anti AI" people are doing.

[Edited on November 25, 2025 at 2:55 PM. Reason : imho]

11/25/2025 2:42:06 PM

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"but nobody wants to go back to using TWW for social media"

Disagree.

But do we really consider message boards as social media?

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"i think a lot of people over the last decade or so have instead learned to be skeptical of or resistant to new technology"

It's because the worst people with the worst motivations are often in charge, and because humans find a way to ruin everything good.

11/25/2025 3:04:26 PM

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"Disagree"

me too actually the pendulum of history will redeem us

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"But do we really consider message boards as social media?"

in the sense that it was in the evolutionary lineage of technologies that allowed people to communicate with each other.

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"It's because the worst people...are often in charge"

bill gates, sergey brin, larry page, mark zuckerberg, elon musk, sam altman etc are nerds. they're not anywhere close to being in the category of "the worst people." people project such characterizations onto them bc the innovations they brought to the world had some unintended consequences

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"with the worst motivations"

the motivations of such people always began with "let's invent something cool that people will want to use and maybe pay us for" there's hardly a more pure human impulse than that other than to fuck somebody you love and to make sure the babies that show up afterwards survive.

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"and because humans find a way to ruin everything good."

same as it ever was alhamdulillah

11/25/2025 3:20:17 PM

It wasn't fair of me to lump everyone in with Elon Musk and his instability.

I'm an engineer. I like solving problems. I like technology.

Difficulties seem to emerge when engineers and scientists stop being engineers and scientists and start being tyrannical profit-driven managers given to their high-dollar vices.



We need black Elon Musk. Filmed with a potato cam.

11/25/2025 7:09:19 PM

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/time-to-declare-war-ai-21221535.php

12/4/2025 2:10:17 PM

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"Andrew Yang warned us the robots were coming...and we didn’t listen"

idiots like him still aren't listening if he thinks a war is what we need or that AI is evil. drew needs to stick to sports and let his violent fantasies play out on the field.

12/4/2025 4:29:24 PM

AI isn't evil. People are evil and will use it for evil things. Or since it is modeled on humans, maybe it is in fact evil.

From whence do you derive your tech optimism? As a country, we're elevating stupidity to the highest levels of government.

We don't revere intelligence anymore. Unless it somehow gets us cheaper baubles or something.

12/4/2025 5:00:47 PM

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"AI isn't evil."

correct. AI is just math, we were always going to discover it. just like nuclear energy. nuclear energy is just atoms, we were always going to discover it. it's just a matter of what you want to do with the nuclear energy. threaten other people with bombs or provide electricity for your citizens.

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"People are evil and will use it for evil things."

i rarely if ever call people evil. too many people out there these days who are too eager to flatten the moral landscape into good/evil and end up sliding down the demonization -> dehumanization -> violence funnel. But there are of course bad things that some people do, and some people will use AI to do bad things. and we should address those instances. but to put a blanket label on AI as evil is dumb af.

people can use AI to make brainrot and make their fellow humans stupider, or people can use AI to keep unlocking the mysteries of the universe. instead of saying "let's do more mystery unlocking and less brainrot" funnel dwellers like drew would rather say "let's have zero mystery unlocking and I'll keep my job churning out human-made brainrot instead"

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"From whence do you derive your tech optimism?"

history

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"As a country, we're elevating stupidity to the highest levels of government. We don't revere intelligence anymore."

indeed. we've figured out how to make computers intelligent (with whatever limitations or disclaimers that may yet prove to be required) and instead of saying "let's see what good for the world we can do with this" some stupid people want to declare war on it.

12/4/2025 6:11:59 PM

gotta love someone earnestly using the term “stick to sports”

lay off Twitter, man. it’d be really good for you.

12/4/2025 6:24:54 PM

ANYWAYS

hurray for AI! boo for stupid people!

12/4/2025 6:32:54 PM

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" me too actually the pendulum of history will redeem us "

Not when registrations are broken…

12/4/2025 6:48:48 PM

Robots are coming

12/4/2025 6:49:26 PM