ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Did someone give Tiberius that account? 5/19/2005 7:56:57 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
ROTS is clearly a beneficiary of lowered expectations. Once the reality distortion field clears, the movie will settle into the ranks of all the other B-level movies with subpar writing, acting, and directing. Resolution, filling in holes of a popular mythos, and good fight scenes are worth, at most, 2.5 stars out of 4.
[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 8:05 PM. Reason : That's not to say that a 2.5 star movie can't be entertaining, it just isn't the best out there.] 5/19/2005 7:59:06 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
kainen1 said:
Quote : | "I guess an almost 3grand of smart, intelligent, and culturally sound IMDB users are crazy for voting this a 8.2 / 10." |
Smart, intelligent, culturally sound IMDB users? You obviously haven't read the message boards.5/19/2005 7:59:06 PM |
dinah All American 2293 Posts user info edit post |
best quote from discussion with friends:
Quote : | " well at least there aren't anymore" |
5/19/2005 7:59:42 PM |
dinah All American 2293 Posts user info edit post |
Now, if you wanna know who I really hate...it's these fucking FAGS who justify him botching the original trilogy. Most of them are computer-related degrees.
Look, we don't need your trite shit. Find something better to do with your time. 5/19/2005 8:02:40 PM |
cheerwhiner All American 8302 Posts user info edit post |
I swear I saw esgargs at the 4:45 showing at crossroads........... 5/19/2005 8:03:44 PM |
dinah All American 2293 Posts user info edit post |
any pretentious film nerd is good for consulting as to why the movie sucked; as opposed to people who just wanted to see wookies and yoda and shit... 5/19/2005 8:06:32 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
Well if we want to make silly appeals to authority,
A.O. fucking Scott 5/19/2005 8:12:59 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
i thought it sucked 5/19/2005 8:18:42 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
The movie was good 5/19/2005 8:19:37 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
Man, if only Joseph Campbell were here... 5/19/2005 8:22:06 PM |
dinah All American 2293 Posts user info edit post |
if you have people who have already seen it saying it sucked, it's not a good thing btw...
it just came out today, nerds... 5/19/2005 8:24:06 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
You care way to much about what people think of your opinion 5/19/2005 8:38:17 PM |
alee All American 2178 Posts user info edit post |
Watched Episode 4 last night. A lot of things worked out well between the two, but lots of lines didn't make as much sense. Mainly Obi-Wan's lines. Still felt great to watch the original. 5/19/2005 8:47:52 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
i watched 4 again and i just can't see that whiny punk as vader
and i was kinda bored at some parts, but then again 4 didn't really do anything for me when i saw it for the first time (when it was re-released)
but last night watching 3 i was so excited
i think some of the obi-wan stuff made sense in episode 4, it's just that it was very general
he never says he doesn't remember the droids, he just said he never owned one and there a probably a million r2 units in the galaxy
the action was much better in 3 than in any of the originals and i think that'll mess up some of how people view the originals
i think over time and repeated viewings it will all take care of itself 5/19/2005 8:59:31 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
Which of Obi-Wan's lines don't make sense?
I think the one that might not make sense now is the whole "Your father wanted you to have this", but it might be wrapped up in the "little white lie" he tells Luke. 5/19/2005 8:59:37 PM |
alee All American 2178 Posts user info edit post |
Just stupid little technical things. Like how he hasn't gone by "Obi-Wan" since before Luke was born.
I mean, nothing big, just little things that aren't quite right. 5/19/2005 9:06:59 PM |
dinah All American 2293 Posts user info edit post |
I like how you idiots are still continuing to suck his dick after you, yourselves, are pointing out inacuracies...
I bet all of you still think these storylines were written at the time of the original trilogies, too... 5/19/2005 9:12:22 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Yeah, but the way he says it "Oh, before you were born", leads me to think he's digging back into his memory...almost 20 years have elapsed since then so he may not remember everything perfectly. 5/19/2005 9:21:50 PM |
kainen1 All American 2016 Posts user info edit post |
Frosh....prolly right, but having read some of the actual reviews and avoiding the forums, most who take the time to individually review a movie are pretty smart and relevant. Most is a keyword I suppose..
You at least get the idea that they watch a good deal of movies and the idea of a popular opinion sans shitty ass film critics is present.
I just can't fathom how anyone can loathe the movie so much, or rather -- how fucking evangelical some people can get about being so damn anti star-wars nowadays. I think thats the main point I'm making, especially when this is clearly an emotionally present and intense star wars vol. 5/19/2005 9:22:34 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
this may be your first trolling i've actually enjoyed reading
keep it up yo
copied from another thread:Quote : | "speaking of rip-offs
did anybody else feel there was a very Die Hard esque feel at certain point in Ep III?" | ]5/19/2005 9:23:17 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think the one that might not make sense now is the whole "Your father wanted you to have this", but it might be wrapped up in the "little white lie" he tells Luke." |
I think he says "Your father would've wanted you to have this."
BTW,
Quote : | "actually bought a ticket for Daredevil and is anticipating Elektra, jerked off at the Batman Begins preview, rents DVD extras for a full price, has an answering machine with mini cassette tapes, reads Clive Cussler books, has never been to the gym, and generally sucks " |
5/19/2005 9:39:17 PM |
dinah All American 2293 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand how you think I'm trolling when all I'm doing is stating how adamantly opposed to this movie I am. THEN I get berrated with sarcasm opposed to how I feel about others liking the fucking thing. THEN some idiot proclaims I don't like Star Wars, when I sat right there last night and watched the shit.
If I ever get anything written about these three monstrosities Jewcas put out over the last six years it'll be in the goddamned New York Times. I honestly wish his fat ass would just fucking die. He ruined his own reputation, he IS indeed a closet homosexual, yet he has MILLIONS of you people (and I'm sure I'M included in that) analyzing his total nonsense. It's not like you give a shit what the lady at Fountain Dining Hall is fucking planning to do after the bitch hands you your food - you don't sit there and think, "what's next with this bitch." But you still keep coming back to the same miserable assed place. Most of you nerds are way too complacent...as if this fucking garbage bag of a movie shouldn't fit to some standard that all other movies are on. But don't worry. Lucas still blows ass as a director. I don't care how many wookiee-loving motherfucking computer geeks there are out there... 5/19/2005 9:40:45 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
shit i almost typed a response 5/19/2005 9:45:54 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
You say you're not trolling yet somehow you assert a man you've never met before is a closet homosexual.
[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 9:47 PM. Reason : dammit i did type a response ] 5/19/2005 9:46:44 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
damn dude DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THIS SHIT WORKS??? 5/19/2005 9:47:13 PM |
dinah All American 2293 Posts user info edit post |
He is a closet homosexual - this is derived from countless interviewers who ask him other things that people like you would never ask, e.g. his sex/marriage life. He's been married like once, a long time ago (queue cliche), he adopts kids, and hasn't even dated in years. Derive what you want. 5/19/2005 9:51:02 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
What was Die Hard-esque BTW? Mace falling out the window? 5/19/2005 9:51:20 PM |
dinah All American 2293 Posts user info edit post |
I understand how lost of a cause it all is - like getting people to vote against Bush. It's a really, really similar concept though. Complacency is the key! 5/19/2005 9:54:06 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe the elevator shaft scenes? 5/19/2005 9:54:09 PM |
dinah All American 2293 Posts user info edit post |
Star Wars died for your sins. 5/19/2005 9:55:29 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
^^elevator shaft scenes and yoda climing through the duct work i was just like "this reminds me a lot of die hard" at the beginning, but when yoda was crawling around hiding from palpy, i was like "come out to the coast, have a few laughs..."
[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 9:56 PM. Reason : /] 5/19/2005 9:56:05 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Ah ha. They should have made Bruce Willis Jango Fett. 5/19/2005 9:58:16 PM |
philly4808 All American 710 Posts user info edit post |
I heard they were making a Star Wars tv series. Does anyone know what it will cover? Is it supposed to be about luke growing up or what? 5/19/2005 10:10:12 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
There's a TV series and a cartoon. Both will cover the period between episodes III and IV IIRC. They haven't said what will specifically take place then. 5/19/2005 10:13:29 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I couldn't help but be bored through this entire movie. The sabre fights were good, Hayden's Anakin wasn't too bad, and even the dialogue wasn't as god awful as episode one. For some reason though, I just didn't find it to be terribly interesting. The only emotion I got out of the entire movie was a "oh thats fucked up" when Anakin bust out a light sabre in the face of that inquisitive kid.
The problem for me, and this may have been because I don't follow the books/cartoon/whatever and went into the movie with ep I II IV V and VI knowledge, was that there was no plot development done for General Grevious or the seperatists. They were in the movie as backdrops, existing mainly in the background of a story that centers around Anakin's fall and Palpatines usurpering of power. Thats great, but it makes episode I irrelevent and episode II remotely relevant.
As stated in better reviews, this movie would have made a great Episode I as it climaxed at the very end and only in the final 30 mins did I begin to become intrigued. 5/19/2005 10:42:01 PM |
Talula Veteran 152 Posts user info edit post |
It's supposed to be like a roller coaster, it climbs the hill for about 2 hours and then drops crazy fast for the last half hour.
It did just that. 5/19/2005 10:43:28 PM |
ScottyP All American 1131 Posts user info edit post |
I thought it was pretty damn good. yep. 5/19/2005 10:58:41 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
Did anybody else catch the Millenium Falcon landing before the special Senate meeting?
5/19/2005 10:59:39 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not a big star wars fan, but i thought the movie was really entertaining...
that's without knowing all the details that most fans are nitpicking about 5/19/2005 11:00:36 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The problem for me, and this may have been because I don't follow the books/cartoon/whatever and went into the movie with ep I II IV V and VI knowledge, was that there was no plot development done for General Grevious or the seperatists" |
Yeah, that was the cartoon.
and regarding Mace: Was it just me or did he grow in size when fighting Sidious? His head looked like it was going to explode, and it seemed like he could no longer hold his lightsaber baseball bat style because his hands were too big.
Quote : | "Did anybody else catch the Millenium Falcon landing before the special Senate meeting?" |
YES! w00t. Although it wasn't necessarily the MF.
[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 11:01 PM. Reason : .]5/19/2005 11:00:48 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
<----greatly approves of this movie.
and as THE resident star wars mogul, thats all you need.
nah im kidding, maverick and some of the other guys know this shit like whoa. 5/19/2005 11:01:36 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They were in the movie as backdrops, existing mainly in the background of a story that centers around Anakin's fall and Palpatines usurpering of power. Thats great, but it makes episode I irrelevent and episode II remotely relevant." |
i stated before that Episodes I and II were made essentially to make the best possible Episode III in respect to story and cgi.
I think it's good Lucas explained the entire transition from the Republic to the Empire. I know it definite helped me understand what they were fighting for in the original trilogy.
The thing I like most about the prequels are the Jedi and the influences the Jedi have on the galaxy. Watching at Episode III i was like--hurry up and go the Jedi council scene! .5/19/2005 11:20:01 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Did you guys notice that the guy told Captain Antilles to wipe C-3PO's memory, but not R2's. Someone said that there are lots of different R2 droids in the galaxy, but this is the same one. In Ep IV, C-3PO tells Luke that they have had no previous masters other than Captain Antilles. That means that all throughout the original trilogy, R2 knew the entire history of what happened. But I would think that after C-3PO's memory was wiped, R2 could just upload what happened to him...
Anyway, after watching Ep IV and V again there were a few things I never really noticed. Like the second that Luke mentions Obi-Wan Kenobi at the dinner table at Tatooine, Beru and Owen look at each other with a look as if they know something is up. And it was pretty cool how Yoda tells Obi-Wan that he has been watching over Luke for all of his life. But how come R2 didn't "recognize" Yoda on Dagobah?
Oh and btw, interesting how General Grevious was coughing and had a heart and shit, yet he was able to survive in space after he busted the window on the spaceship. Oh and could Mace Windu be considered more powerful than Yoda? Windu was able to take down Sideous rather quickly by himself but Yoda was obviously struggling with him. 5/20/2005 12:13:52 AM |
Talula Veteran 152 Posts user info edit post |
why WAS he coughing the whole time? 5/20/2005 12:19:43 AM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh and could Mace Windu be considered more powerful than Yoda? Windu was able to take down Sideous rather quickly by himself but Yoda was obviously struggling with him." |
i'm a star wars rube myself, but i'd like to think that his power grew after that little battle, kinda like the tide shifted more to the dark side and he had more to feed off of
[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 12:23 AM. Reason : Ø]5/20/2005 12:23:16 AM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
^^^zombie palpatine could have been sand bagging in order to wait for luke to come in and save him and complete his transformation to the fag side.
[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 12:27 AM. Reason : sef] 5/20/2005 12:26:35 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
obiwans had an R4 the entire time. Anakin had R2. 5/20/2005 12:28:33 AM |
kainen1 All American 2016 Posts user info edit post |
that was just to lure anakin in. I bet palpatine coulda put the smackdown but he had sensed that anakin was coming and had set him up for this very moment.....to think that he (sidious) had to live in order to save padme. 5/20/2005 12:29:44 AM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
who has the link to the essay the dude wrote about how the empire is really the good guys and the rebels are evil? 5/20/2005 12:39:40 AM |