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ohmy
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o'reilly is a moderate compared to hannity and beck.

he's still a meathead and a bully.

but not as awful as hannity and beck.

9/20/2009 6:34:12 PM

agentlion
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^ yeah.
here are my thoughts on O'Reilly back from page 7, after watching only Fox News (while visiting my grandma) for 2 weeks
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"My biggest surprise after 2 weeks was that I O'Reilly actually gets a raw deal from the left (unlike Hannity and Beck - they deserve all the derision they get). I discovered a couple things - 1) O'Reilly certain can be and often is a total dickhead. When he is passionate about a particular topic and is certain on his position, he is unrelenting and totally bullish. This is where all the clips come from to discredit him or make him seem unhinged. However, 2) on a surprising number of topics, he is actually quite moderate, or even if he is not moderate on the topic, he gives a fair chance to his guests and is, yes, "fair and balanced". He regularly has guests on his show who are much further to the Right than himself, and when talking to them, he often stops them and backs them up, and interjects "no, that's not fair", "ok, enough with the hyperbole", "if you listen to what Obama actually says", etc.
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9/20/2009 9:28:09 PM

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i just think hes really pompous. almost like bill krystol. rip to your pops btw.

[Edited on September 20, 2009 at 10:14 PM. Reason : /]

9/20/2009 10:13:55 PM

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9/21/2009 3:14:42 PM

TKEshultz
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you beat me to it .. .that picture is $

9/21/2009 3:30:59 PM

NyM410
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For what it's worth, O'Reilly was the speaker at my sister's graduation from college (he also graduated from Marist College) and he seemed really down to earth and funny. Of course he is pompous... he couldn't do what he did on a daily basis without being like that.

9/21/2009 4:08:19 PM

TKEshultz
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you know he brings liberals on the show on a daily basis .. unlike keith olbernancy

9/21/2009 4:16:23 PM

God
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"What do you mean 'Congratulate gradutes?' What does that mean? FUCK IT. FUCK IT LETS DO IT LIVE."

9/21/2009 4:23:39 PM

lafta
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this guy is just plain worthless,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/glenn-beck-obama-better-f_n_294052.html

i wonder how his fans will respond

9/21/2009 7:40:22 PM

ShinAntonio
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/internal-fox-email-addresses-standards-after-912-flap/

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"Mediaite has obtained an email from Fox News Vice President of News and Washington managing editor Bill Sammon to the staff of the D.C. bureau, in the wake of an FNC producer caught pumping up the crowd during the 9/12 tea party broadcast.

The email, with the subject line “standards,” addresses the controversy head-on: “We do not cheerlead for one cause or another,” writes Sammon. Full email after the jump:

Sammon uses the incident to drive home the need to be objective:

We do not rile up a crowd. If a crowd happens to be boisterous when we show it on TV, so be it. If it happens to be quiet, that’s fine, too. It’s not our job to affect the crowd’s behavior one way or the other. Again, we’re journalists, not participants — and certainly not performers.

It’s not like the crowd needed to be riled up – every time reporter Griff Jenkins (whose focus is features – and ambushing – and not news) mentioned Glenn Beck there were loud cheers. And as TVNewser writes today, the practice is “fairly common.”

But in the wake of this controversial ad, which attacked their competitors for their poor coverage of the protest, the appearance of tampering with the crowd’s mood had to be addressed by Fox News.

Here’s the full email:

From: Sammon, Bill
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:25 PM
To: 005 -Washington
Subject: standards

For those of us who have only been at Fox for a relatively short period of time, it’s useful to remind ourselves that, as journalists, we must always be careful to cover the story without becoming part of the story. At news events, we’re supposed to function as dispassionate observers, not active participants. We are there to chronicle the news, not create it.

That means we ask questions in a fair, impartial manner. When approaching interviewees, we identify ourselves, by both name and news organization, up front. We seek out a variety of voices and views. We take note of the scene in order to bring color and context to our viewers.

We do not cheerlead for one cause or another. We do not rile up a crowd. If a crowd happens to be boisterous when we show it on TV, so be it. If it happens to be quiet, that’s fine, too. It’s not our job to affect the crowd’s behavior one way or the other. Again, we’re journalists, not participants — and certainly not performers.

Indeed, any effort to affect the crowd’s behavior only serves to undermine our legitimate journalistic role as detached eyewitnesses. Remember, our viewers are counting on us to be honest brokers when it comes to reporting — not altering –the important events of the day. That is nothing less than a sacred trust. We must always take pains to preserve that trust.

If you have any questions or would like to discuss this further, please stop by."


Didn't see this posted yet.

9/21/2009 8:59:01 PM

qntmfred
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Fox News, more like Faux News amirite?

9/21/2009 9:21:29 PM

nothing22
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they did it again-

talking about something like "is there a new 'supersnake' taking over florida?" and they used clips from anaconda 2

it's bad enough to use movie footage as b-roll but really- anaconda 2?

9/21/2009 9:51:12 PM

marko
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SO GOLDEN

9/21/2009 10:11:07 PM

Boone
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"[Beck] described McCain as "this weird progressive like Theodore Roosevelt was."


And this is a bad thing, in Beck's eyes.

This, more than any other quote, explains why I have no respect for his views.

9/22/2009 8:32:05 AM

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yeah i didnt get the teddy roosevelt thing. i thought conservatives LOVED that guy...

9/22/2009 8:35:01 AM

joe_schmoe
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they only love his moustache.

9/22/2009 5:29:48 PM

Boone
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So have they admitted that they're entirely partisan in any official way, yet, or are they letting it go unsaid?

9/22/2009 8:49:10 PM

God
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Well, I can tell you that they DID fight for a court of law to rule that they could legally lie on the air.

9/22/2009 10:04:45 PM

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WROOOOONNNNG

9/23/2009 2:43:41 PM

joe_schmoe
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oh, look. another eggheaded potsmoking godless homosexual telling us how to raise our chilren.

damn LIEberals






[Edited on September 23, 2009 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ]

9/23/2009 2:47:08 PM

ddf583
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^^I wonder if they realize there is a difference between "promotes" and "sees no problem with." I have a hard time believing this guys is saying, "we really need to get more homosexuality into these schools," rather than, "I have no problem with homosexuality in schools."



[Edited on September 23, 2009 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]

9/23/2009 2:59:42 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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My friend decided to watch Glenn Beck for the first time, and after watching for three minutes, Glenn Beck had already killed a live animal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nVpO1Dvfk

So much for analogies.

9/24/2009 1:27:29 AM

carzak
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I didn't see the frog get tossed into the water. I thought I saw the one he caught hop out of his hands as he was taking it out.

Maybe he was pulling some sleight of hand to make people think he was tossing the frog in the water when he really never intended to.

Or maybe he mistakenly thought he caught one and tried to act like nothing went wrong when he tossed the non-existent frog into the pot.

I'm kind of torn between the two. Regardless, it was a completely retarded and unnecessary demonstration of an analogy, and is pretty typical of Beck.

9/24/2009 2:21:55 AM

BoBo
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I watched Beck for the first time. I only lasted for about 5 minutes ....

9/24/2009 6:55:56 AM

agentlion
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here is a long article on Beck's radio-background, covering pretty much everything he did in the 80s and 90s, including his jobs as one of the original "morning-zoo" type DJs, drinking and drugs, and converting to Mormonism.
It's not really a take-down, like you might expect from Salon, but appears to pull mostly from public record and from Beck's own words from his previous books and interviews. So, it's not like it's a big expose that brings out hidden things about Beck, but kind of interesting nonetheless
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/21/glenn_beck/
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/22/glenn_beck_two/
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/23/glenn_beck_three/

9/24/2009 9:34:46 AM

moron
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5woLGnwN2I4

Conservatives speak out agains Beck

9/24/2009 2:29:30 PM

TreeTwista10
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does this mean you people will stop thinking Beck speaks on behalf of everyone who's not a staunch Obama supporter?

9/24/2009 4:19:30 PM

jwb9984
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hell no, man. that video was put together by media matters. they have a well known liberal bias. i refuse to trust any of the unedited video clips they cherry pick.

9/24/2009 6:49:01 PM

ShinAntonio
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Only one currently elected official in that clip too. Where's denouncement from Newt, Cantor, Boehner, etc?

9/24/2009 7:11:56 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^Well your post is in the Fox News thread, Fox News clearly has a conservative bias, so I refuse to believe your post

9/24/2009 7:28:21 PM

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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/24/oreilly_barney_frank_face_off_over_acorn.html

haha. the 2 ppl that like hearing themselves talk the most

9/25/2009 4:18:00 AM

sarijoul
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKZ1qbDyKOM

beck asked to explain what he meant when he said that "obama hates white culture". hilarity ensues.

9/29/2009 3:41:09 PM

God
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Typical Lieberal "Gotcha!" journalism

9/29/2009 3:48:37 PM

aaronburro
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I've really enjoyed the bitching from Fox News recently about the congressman who said that illegal aliens should be able to purchase insurance if they can afford it. WTF, fox?

9/29/2009 6:57:49 PM

moron
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^ it’s because they are trying to use race-baiting to maintain distrust for Obama.

9/29/2009 6:59:53 PM

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9/30/2009 4:06:38 PM

1985
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^ ahh, I came to post that

9/30/2009 5:14:51 PM

thegoodlife3
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Fox News: McCarthy Was Right!

[Edited on September 30, 2009 at 5:16 PM. Reason : whoops]

9/30/2009 5:16:31 PM

joe_schmoe
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Red Empire?

what is wrong with Fox? How can they do this with a straight face? they're like the Weekly World News.

more importantly, what is wrong with their viewers? I guess Fox viewers and Weekly World News readers are the same demographic.

9/30/2009 5:21:31 PM

Mr. Joshua
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CNN had
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"Convicted child killer Couey dies in prison"

on the 7th row down.

Fox News had:

9/30/2009 7:06:41 PM

Solinari
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I'm a firm believer in liberal media bias and all that... I'm pretty conservative - but I can't bear to watch fox news ... CNN is absolutely no better than fox when it comes to vapid coverage and "discussion"


All cable news is garbage. Can't we all just agree on that and move on?

9/30/2009 7:17:16 PM

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I enjoy fox news. Its almost all I watch. I don't agree with most of their values but its just good quality television which is why they have so many viewers. Hannity and Beck speak from the heart. They twist facts, distort information(SO DOES EVERY NEWS SOURCE), over dramatize events and constantly bash obama but it still makes for good tv. If you can''t listen to something you disagree with then you have no hope of ever moving forward as an individual, party, government, or society.

[Edited on September 30, 2009 at 7:41 PM. Reason : theres no such thing as unbiased information. not possibe. ]

9/30/2009 7:40:54 PM

tschudi
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MSNBC has gotten pretty bad (meaning that they pretty obviously have a liberal slant), but I still don't think that CNN is anywhere near the ridiculousness of Fox News

i was watching Huckabee the other night and he was interviewing Chuck Norris for more than half of his show. since when does anyone give a fuck what Chuck Norris thinks about politics?

9/30/2009 7:41:46 PM

joe_schmoe
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CNN is in no way remotely near the level of sheer ridiculousness as Fox. CNN's is not "intellectual" but at least they're not batshit crazy retards.... or pandering to batshit crazy retards. whatever ever Fox's deal is, the end result is the same


MSNBC can be almost as bad. and yes, Olberman is a toolbag. i dont watch MSNBC.




[Edited on September 30, 2009 at 8:09 PM. Reason : ]

9/30/2009 8:05:45 PM

Solinari
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I guess you've never seen Campbell Brown or Lou Dobb's shows?

9/30/2009 8:18:24 PM

IMStoned420
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I attempted to watch Beck the other day with his "moms" show. The exploitativeness and ridiculousness of him program only allowed me to get through about 20 minutes before I thought I was physically going to vomit and/or my head would explode if I kept watching it. His show is the single biggest piece of shit program on television.

10/1/2009 2:38:45 AM

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As I'm sure many of you know, Glenn Beck has been trying to shutdown http://www.glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com. The owner of the site has hired a lawyer, and his response is absolute gold.

The response: http://gb1990.net/legal/response/D2009-1182%20Response%20Brief.pdf
Some related documentation: http://gb1990.net/legal/response/

Ars articles:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/09/can-a-mere-domain-name-be-defamation-glenn-beck-says-yes.ars
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/09/memes-strike-back-gerbils-gay-blood-elves-and-glenn-beck.ars

10/1/2009 8:09:06 AM

Boone
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The response is the best thing I've read in months.

10/1/2009 8:28:18 AM

NyM410
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I think it's kind of lame that the White House official blog is even paying any mind to Beck's drivel, but it is pretty funny how out of touch with reality and facts he is:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Reality-Check-Turning-a-Point-of-Pride-into-a-Moment-of-Shame/

10/1/2009 10:15:40 AM

ShinAntonio
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set em up

10/1/2009 1:47:48 PM

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