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dweedle
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it's just a placeholder for dat 190% ORANGLE BOWL PATCH AM I RIGHT

Front
http://twitpic.com/5w79r6
Back
http://twitpic.com/5w7avd

7/26/2011 12:18:16 PM

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ORANGLE

BOWL

PATCH
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7/26/2011 12:27:03 PM

dbhawley
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video of the uniforms!

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/072611aae.html

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 1:04 PM. Reason : ]

7/26/2011 1:00:57 PM

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"I'm just glad the three wolves are dead"

7/26/2011 1:29:28 PM

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I'm not big on having words on the football jersey, I would be fine just all red and maybe a small block s at the collar, red seems like the shade is a bit off but thats probably just camera lighting/flash

7/26/2011 1:37:20 PM

dweedle
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I wonder if this adidas fabric will be harder to grab onto for jersey tackles

7/26/2011 1:39:35 PM

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It would be nice to see what the away jerseys look like. Why would they have two players showing the same jersey? Anna Bell Vaughn fail.

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"or like there needs to be something opposite the ACC patch... like a Jimmy V sticker or something"


During the interview with AG and Ovies yesterday, TOB said he didnt want the uniforms to look like a NASCAR car, with patches everywhere. I am not sure what kind of input he actually had, but I agree. I like how clean these look.v

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 1:56 PM. Reason : V 2 players showing the same uniform is fail. Normally each player wears either home or away.]

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 1:56 PM. Reason : 666 posts. Maybe I should quit TWW on that.]

7/26/2011 1:49:59 PM

dweedle
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why is having 2 players showing it a fail

7/26/2011 1:51:34 PM

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They had 2 players modeling the jerseys so you could see what it looked like on a black guy compared to a white guy

7/26/2011 2:12:41 PM

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Or a big guy compared to a little guy. Which is a big difference. I think it looks great on TJ but wonky on Sweezy.

7/26/2011 2:15:21 PM

Kelly4NCSt8
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The uniforms are alright. The red does seem a bit too bright to me but maybe it will look better on the field than it does in the video. They do seem to be pretty clean-looking & traditional which I think is a good thing.

Although, being familiar with brand development professionally, I have to say: I am not a huge fan of the whole "State" movement. There are way too many other state schools that people will confuse us with on a national level. To be referred to as "State" between a bunch of guys chatting over a beer or something--sure, but not for the basis of our entire national logotype.

I understand the need to refresh your look & feel as an organization (especially with new leadership), but "NC State" was the way to go from a branding perspective, IMO.

Oh well.

7/26/2011 3:32:10 PM

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But what about branding and the Sports Marketing desire that we have to be NCST for TV?

7/26/2011 3:43:20 PM

wdprice3
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ugly damn jerseys.

and we are NC State. Sheesh.

7/26/2011 3:48:21 PM

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"There are way too many other state schools that people will confuse us with on a national level."


baby steps...i think this was done specifically to capture imagination of everyone in state first before we try to get recognition nationally.

7/26/2011 3:49:39 PM

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"and we are NC State. Sheesh."


Not according to Deborah A. Yow.

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"baby steps...i think this was done specifically to capture imagination of everyone in state first before we try to get recognition nationally."


That's a fair enough argument. But I'm curious what the hell we've been doing all these years if we're basically starting from scratch.

7/26/2011 3:53:16 PM

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starting from scratch /= going back to your roots

7/26/2011 3:57:14 PM

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"and we are NC State. Sheesh."


Definitely! I mean our favorite fight song goes, "we're the red and white from NC State..." And when someone at work or something asks me what I'm doing, I always say, "going to the NC State game." I'm afraid if I say, "i'm going to the State game" that they might think i'm going to a Michigan State game or something.

[/sarcasm] I sheesh your sheesh. I personally like the "STATE" movement, but to each his own.

7/26/2011 3:59:26 PM

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yeh it shoulda been ncstate, not just 'state'

oh well. at lease history will judge this year against other things, not the uni's

7/26/2011 4:00:42 PM

dweedle
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anybody that gets confused if they are watching our games on tv is a mongoloid anyway and shouldn't be watching sports

7/26/2011 4:01:31 PM

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I like "State". Just like it used to be in '83.

7/26/2011 4:02:19 PM

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I like "State"

but those uniforms suck. boring.

7/26/2011 4:03:32 PM

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i have no interest in getting the type of fans who can't figure out which State they're watching.

also, this seems exactly like the kind of uniform TOB would want: no-nonsense.

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:05 PM. Reason : they might grow on me]

7/26/2011 4:03:52 PM

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they def should have just put ncsuftw1 on the jerseys

our opponents would then know we aren't fucking around

7/26/2011 4:04:44 PM

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spydyrwyr
The Red & White starts out with "We're the Red & White from State" and then has NC State at the end.

The fight song says "Shout out for dear old NC State... GO STATE"

It's a mix of State and NC State.

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:05 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2011 4:05:11 PM

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^^^^would you rather have wolf scratches on the helmets or back of the unis or something?

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:05 PM. Reason : ]

7/26/2011 4:05:18 PM

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Terrible, I was expecting more than them just taking off the 3 wolves logo and adding "STATE"

Something just seems off to me on these

Also, does anyone else think the placement of the Adidas logo is awkward?

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:09 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2011 4:07:03 PM

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^i think it will look better once the helmet is included...i would love to see red socks too, but W/E

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM. Reason : sdf]

7/26/2011 4:08:14 PM

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i hope we stop with these shenanigans and switch from Adidas next year. I have the "state football" poster as my wallpaper on my cpu... i honesly think i like them better (last years uni's that is)

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:09 PM. Reason : !]

7/26/2011 4:08:43 PM

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I really like the idea of just State on the front, but I wish they had made it bigger and left out the black outline. If you're going to plain you might as well go all the way and make it look really vintage. Otherwise I like them, although it doesn't really make a big difference.

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:09 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2011 4:09:17 PM

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"There are way too many other state schools that people will confuse us with on a national level. To be referred to as "State" between a bunch of guys chatting over a beer or something--sure, but not for the basis of our entire national logotype."


How often do you check the front of a football jersey to see who's playing when you're watching a game on TV?

7/26/2011 4:09:42 PM

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"How often do you check the front of a football jersey to see who's playing when you're watching a game on TV?"


In making that statement, I wasn't referring ONLY to these jerseys, but the entire re-branding they've decided to pursue.

The article from that link says Deborah Yow wants us to be known as State. ('"It's a basic, bold statement: State. That's who we are,' she said.")



[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM. Reason : ]

7/26/2011 4:14:58 PM

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Look at the states around us...Virgina, Maryland, Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama

We're the only D-1 State school within 500 miles.

We are the definitive "State" to anyone in the southeast.

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:16 PM. Reason : x]

7/26/2011 4:16:20 PM

iceman72
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^^ this may be true, however ESPN will still label us ( on the on screen score) as NSCT... will never be just state

7/26/2011 4:17:40 PM

Slave Famous
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Nationally, no team will ever be "State". It contradicts itself.

7/26/2011 4:18:33 PM

dweedle
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how many major schools have red as a major color and 'State' in their name?

nc state
iowa state (they have yellow w/ it usually)
fresno state
ohio state (different shade, and if you don't know you're watching Ohio State, then that's your own fault)
ball state lol
...everything else is a completely different shade


there should be no confusion

7/26/2011 4:18:37 PM

iceman72
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THE Ohio State University get it right lol

7/26/2011 4:20:38 PM

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"The article from that link says Deborah Yow wants us to be known as State."


But we're already known as State. This is just the University going along with what a majority of the fan base has wanted to return to for a long time. It's not like Yow came up with the idea to call us State on her own.

7/26/2011 4:22:22 PM

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A lot of these concerns seem really silly to me. The announcers will probably always say "NC State" just like they do now, regardless of what the AD says. That's what I think anyway. I'm sure the Buckeyes want to be referred to as THE Ohio State all the time but how often do the announcers actually say that!?

7/26/2011 4:23:04 PM

Slave Famous
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Only the faggots

7/26/2011 4:26:48 PM

mbrown3
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I think the words "STATE" should be at least as wide as the widest number.

"STATE" appears too small on Sweezy's jersey

7/26/2011 4:26:59 PM

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"But we're already known as State. This is just the University going along with what a majority of the fan base has wanted to return to for a long time. It's not like Yow came up with the idea to call us State on her own."


We're known as State mostly within the borders of North Carolina (and somewhat, as Slave Famous said, the southeast.) So yeah, that's most of our fanbase, but we're not marketing to make ourselves look better TO OURSELVES. We're already fans. We already pay money to this school.

The point of marketing is to create a recognizable image to people beyond our already-established fanbase, to create curiosity and ultimately excitement about a brand (in this case, both our school and our athletics) and eventually generate revenue because of that.

7/26/2011 4:28:26 PM

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internally we often refer to ourselves as state. externally we are known as NC State. Used to be State, as in State College. Not anymore. I don't care what Yow says. Our uniforms are representations of our university to outsiders; we know who we are; others may not. You generally don't hear NC State referred to as State from outsiders; in fact, other, more popular universities come to other's minds when someone says "State".

Google State.
Google NC State.

Tell me which tells us who we are. We are NC State. What was that major NCSU commercial campaign? We all go to NC State

7/26/2011 4:31:30 PM

dweedle
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another bunch of pics
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/07/26/2482990/first-look-nc-states-new-football.html

meh ill take out the iframe

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:34 PM. Reason : ]

7/26/2011 4:34:21 PM

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This is what a lot of people have wanted for a long time (again, yow didn't just come up with it on her own)

7/26/2011 4:38:24 PM

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^^^^ They should say State across the front because none of your marketing mongoloid brethren have been able to come up with a jersey that says NC State without it looking retarded.

Just using State will not create any brand identity crisis. Relax.

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:39 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2011 4:38:47 PM

dweedle
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only thing I would like to see is the black outline removed from STATE and the numbers

oh and STATE should be more like S T A T E

[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 4:40 PM. Reason : ]

7/26/2011 4:40:00 PM

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^yes!

And this
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Or a big guy compared to a little guy. Which is a big difference. I think it looks great on TJ but wonky on Sweezy."

7/26/2011 4:46:03 PM

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"Just using State will not create any brand identity crisis. Relax."


Crisis? Seriously?! When did I suggest anything like that?

I thought this was a forum, a place to communicate your opinion. Someone posted a link to the jerseys and I gave my opinion. I had no idea everyone would freak out about the topic. It doesn't mean I implied the university would shut down due to no one knowing who the hell we are.

7/26/2011 4:50:23 PM

dweedle
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i think you should focus on the "Relax" part

7/26/2011 4:52:58 PM

Kelly4NCSt8
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I'm actually good. Thanks, though.

7/26/2011 4:53:56 PM

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