Quote :

"Detectives had determined that one of the Youngs had purchased a pair of Hush Puppies Orbitals, which shared the same outsole, but investigators have never been able to find those shoes."

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"MISSING ROUTERSHOES EXPOSED? "

2/17/2012 11:14:24 PM

what we need to do is compare these shoes to the shoe print at Nancy Cupper's body dumping site. there must be a way to connect Brad Cupper to this case, too.

[Edited on February 17, 2012 at 11:22 PM. Reason : ]

2/17/2012 11:22:13 PM

What is with the sheet of OSB plywood sitting in the middle of the courtroom??

2/20/2012 10:40:28 AM

Plywood they put exhibits on.

2/20/2012 10:43:20 AM

Wow the Wake County budget cuts are hitting the DA's office pretty hard huh?

2/20/2012 11:49:14 AM

I think the three day care workers who testified this morning did damage to the defense. The jurors were given instructions not to use the testimony as the child being able to identify the assailant...

2/20/2012 11:52:46 AM

Which means they'll immediately use the dolls to identify the assailant

2/20/2012 11:55:08 AM

Did they testify that Cassidy said anything about "daddy" punishing mommy for biting?

2/20/2012 12:02:43 PM

No, because that's not what she said. She said "Mommy's getting a spanking for biting." Daddy wasn't mentioned anywhere in the same conversation as the spanking or the doll play. And the Judge ruled any statements regarding her daddy, like the "Daddy gave all the animals fruitsnacks" that she said in a later conversation, will not come in.

[Edited on February 20, 2012 at 12:09 PM. Reason : ]

2/20/2012 12:08:42 PM

Thats what I thought, so in theory the jury can only use the testimony to determine that Cassidy saw her mothers unidentified attacker.



I wonder does Tylenol Rapidblast taste like fruit snacks. If so, how would you even present that in court?

2/20/2012 12:26:27 PM

so in other words, nothing happened.

2/21/2012 12:40:07 PM

Can we get some new evidence here please.

2/22/2012 11:04:04 AM

Not as many neighborhood sl00ts as the BC trial.

2/27/2012 6:04:02 PM

defense is killing it the last two days.

they should wrap it up today, i believe, with closings tomorrow.

2/29/2012 12:22:00 PM

Can you elaborate? I haven't been able to keep up with it as much as the Brad Cooper trial.

2/29/2012 12:50:11 PM

basically the prints didnt match Jason Young.

There were foreign DNA samples.

Woman saw another car in the driveway that morning.

He had the ability to open the door without the key.

...just all kinds of stuff that would lead you to believe he is not guilty.

They reallllllllllllly busted the prosecutions case today.

2/29/2012 5:24:39 PM

I firmly believe that Jason Young is guilty, however I dont think the DA proved that beyond a reasonable doubt

2/29/2012 11:20:40 PM

I firmly believe that Jason Young Brad Cooper is guilty, however I dont think the DA proved that beyond a reasonable doubt

2/29/2012 11:31:32 PM

^^ and ^ based on what?

you believe he is or you just get the hunch?

3/1/2012 12:32:10 AM

Closing arguments today. Each side has an allotted 3 hours. Defense will go first.

Even if Young did it. I hope he gets off. Just to spite all those hateful websleuths hags.

Also, lol: http://truelegends.info/sayville/chessler.htm

3/1/2012 9:26:36 AM

they allowed a second degree murder instruction.

that's not good for a defendant facing a waffling jury....

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 9:33 AM. Reason : .]

3/1/2012 9:32:50 AM

That was my thought too. "I think he's guilty, but I'm just not sure, so lets pick 2nd, since it's not life!"

3/1/2012 9:33:37 AM

yep.... not a big fan of that decision.

3/1/2012 9:40:29 AM

Defense did a great job this morning. Prosecution up now. Then jury will deliberate tomorrow.

3/1/2012 2:28:31 PM

Quote :

"ROUTER CANOE COLLISION"

3/1/2012 2:36:39 PM

I guess I just don't get it, but how is the state allowed to add another charge like that? How can they look at anyone with a straight face after declaring for weeks on end that "THIS GUY DID THIS TERRIBLE THING AND IT'S REALLY THIS TERRIBLE!!!" and then come in at the very end and say "well, consider that maybe it wasn't really as bad as we said and convict the poor bastard anyway..." how in the fuck is that fair at all to the defense?

i mean, I suppose the defense just expects it and argues the whole way based on that, but damn

3/1/2012 2:38:40 PM

the judge allows it, not the state. he is the one that can say ok, yeah...you can have this option too.

3/1/2012 3:04:05 PM

Quote :

"you believe he is or you just get the hunch?"

I think there are just way too many coincidences that point to him. However, I did say that the state did not really prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, which means they did not meet their burden.

3/1/2012 3:38:22 PM

^^ and for whom does the judge work, again? riiiiiiiight, the state. i realize there is a distinction, but to act like the prosecution and the judiciary aren't connected at the hip at this point is to border on delusion.

3/1/2012 3:40:44 PM

^WHY DON'T MORE PEOPLE REALIZE THIS???
Ugh, it's just frustrating. Because you hear all freaking day long how "the defense has to pay their experts to testify" but what do you think the prosecution does? Do they think the SBI, CCBI, FBI, LEO all work for free? It's all so heavily slanted in favor of the prosecution from day 1 that it makes me want to scream.

3/1/2012 3:49:28 PM

correct.

I completely agree.


and coincidences dont make murderers. If anything there are more coincidences with his sister in law doing it than him.

3/1/2012 3:56:13 PM

This could totally be pinned on her. She's way too suspicious, and she's lied more about her whereabouts that night than Jason did.

3/1/2012 4:00:12 PM

Quote :

"Even if Young did it. I hope he gets off"

I can only hope that's a joke...

3/1/2012 4:04:50 PM

Yes, it's a joke. I really dislike those self-righteous websleuths crazies though.

I don't think the State has proved it beyond a reasonable doubt. Completely satisfied? Entirely convinced? Nope.

3/1/2012 4:10:53 PM

I cannot believe that he is getting blamed for NOT talking to police. you have a RIGHT not to say anything to them...and now you are getting criticized for your right?

stupid

3/1/2012 4:15:35 PM

this guy talkin about dolls for real?

3/1/2012 4:23:05 PM

Didn't you know they let a 2 year old testify with dolls?

3/1/2012 4:27:51 PM

seems accurate. did they have multiple races of dolls to choose from?

3/1/2012 4:33:01 PM

Sorry, someone please explain the dolls to me. I am not watching the case right now.

Are they just doing reenactments with dolls or something.

3/1/2012 4:35:21 PM

No, there were only three dolls. There was a hispanic "Mommy doll" with dark hair and a purse. A white old lady doll. And a doctor doll. She chose the Grandma doll to beat up the Mommy doll.

^There was testimony that Cassidy Young (2 years old) did a reenactment of the murder at day care. She used the Grandma doll to beat the Mommy doll with a chair while the Mommy doll was in the bed. She allegedly told the day care worker "Mommy's getting a spanking for biting."

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 4:37 PM. Reason : ]

3/1/2012 4:35:35 PM

oh. so whats the real evidence that he is guilty?

3/1/2012 4:36:58 PM

He's the husband, and he cheated on his wife.

3/1/2012 4:39:54 PM

ah.

3/1/2012 4:41:17 PM

^4 Thanks.

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 4:42 PM. Reason : .]

3/1/2012 4:41:49 PM

I know nothing about this case but I am intrigued. should I read this thread from the beginning or are there other sources that have all the deets?

3/1/2012 4:42:31 PM

This thread isn't complete, but it's a good start. Far more rational than WRAL or websleuths.

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 4:45 PM. Reason : ]

3/1/2012 4:44:09 PM

Quote :

"I cannot believe that he is getting blamed for NOT talking to police. you have a RIGHT not to say anything to them...and now you are getting criticized for your right?"

are the prosecutors actually saying this? that's grounds for dismissal with prejudice, IIRC (whatever the right legal terminology is). seriously, the SC, no less, has ruled that you can't fault someone for invoking his 5th Amendment rights and imply that doing so makes him look guilty. what the fuck. can the defense object during closing arguments if the prosecution is committing such misconduct, or does the defense just have to mark it down and bring it up later?

3/1/2012 4:48:15 PM

Judge ruled they could use his unwillingness to talk to the police as "weighing on his credibility" but not "evidence of guilt."

Same Prosecutor did it in Cooper too.

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 4:49 PM. Reason : ]

3/1/2012 4:49:25 PM

can i sit in the courtroom?

3/1/2012 4:51:16 PM

Yep, but verdict watch is pretty boring. Courtroom 3B in the Wake County Courthouse.

3/1/2012 4:53:05 PM