^ possibly... just make an appointment and see what they say. if they say "no" bitch about Apple having the 3rd highest market cap in the world, behind Exxon and PetroChina.

7/16/2011 6:22:55 PM

Quote :

"hey carzin did they not check your water indicator to see if it turned red? "

Yes, I told them the indicator was red, told them it was dunked in water, and the girl took her flashlight and looked to confirm they were red. It didnt matter.

7/16/2011 7:45:28 PM

wow lucky! my bottom turned red but my headphone jack speaker didn't so I didn't intentionally get it wet and they said they couldn't do anything about it..

7/17/2011 12:27:46 PM

^who intentionally gets their iPhone wet?

Quote :

"I've been having issues with the home button on my iPhone 4. It's pristine, never dropped, never abused, no scratches, nothing... but sometimes I'll press the home button and the phone doesn't do anything. It's just out of warranty (I got it when they dropped last year). Think the Genius bar will help me?"

I'm having the same exact issue with my launch i4. I can't always replicate the problem, it seems to come in spurts.

[Edited on July 17, 2011 at 2:45 PM. Reason : d]

7/17/2011 2:41:48 PM

^I took my iPhone 4 that was having that same problem to the Apple store, of course it worked fine when they tried it but they took my word for it and gave me a new one

7/17/2011 3:05:38 PM

UGH i don't know if this is really the approp thread. but this question is about my iphone (amongst other things)

so i got an iphone 4 (a new white one SO TRES CUTE) and i have a macbook 2,1 (circa 2006) with the 2gz intel core 2 duo processor annnnd running mac os x 10.4.11. and i have a problem. i bet you know what it is!!!

it is itunes. i can't use my current version of itunes with my iphone. i can't update itunes because i am running osx10.4.11 and i have to have 10.5x or higher to update itunes. but since i have the intel macbook can't i just skip to 10.6 aka snow leopard?

so my questions:

do i have to get snow leopard? and if so, is there not a snow leopard download (i feel as though i know the answer to this is no, but figured i'd ask)? i mean i know you can download lion but i need the disc for snow leopard, right? what if i happened upon a torrent of it? that's bad right (but what if)? and if i get snow leopard should i just go ahead and upgrade to lion (you can't go from where i am straight to lion. blah)? i just didn't know if there were any other problems that i'd run into re: my iphone cooperating with my computer that would necessitate the jump from where i am to snow leopard to lion.

basically i just want to be able to use itunes with my iphone NOW and i don't know if theres anyway to do that. i'm guessing not. i just have to install snow leopard with the dumb disc which i don't have and will have to wait for. but i'd also like to avoid other issues in the future where i plug my phone into my computer and it gets all aggro and is like, your shit is too old.

but if you know anything i don't or if i am missing something here i'd appreciate the help. i am new to iphone land (my ipod worked and still works fine with my version of osx, but it is a pretty old nano so). i was just trying to put songs on it so i could go running haha.

7/28/2011 11:00:10 PM

your shit is too old. buy new shit.

7/28/2011 11:21:49 PM

Find someone with a Mac with Snow Leopard, download Lion, right-click the installer app, open the "resources" folder, "restore" the disk image to a USB flash drive with GUID partition map of at least 4GB in size, back up your computer, boot off Lion USB drive, wipe your drive, install fresh Lion copy, use Migration Assistant to restore your settings.

7/28/2011 11:24:04 PM

^^This.

7/28/2011 11:31:08 PM

Quote :

"Find someone with a Mac with Snow Leopard, download Lion, right-click the installer app, open the "resources" folder, "restore" the disk image to a USB flash drive with GUID partition map of at least 4GB in size, back up your computer, boot off Lion USB drive, wipe your drive, install fresh Lion copy, use Migration Assistant to restore your settings."

OSX.

It just works!

7/28/2011 11:32:48 PM

http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/04/att-to-soon-begin-revoking-unlimited-data-from-jailbreak-hotspot-users/

Quote :

"AT&T confirmed to BGR that it will soon begin revoking unlimited data plans from jailbroken iPhone users and other smartphone users who utilize unauthorized tethering and mobile hotspot solutions. Following reports from earlier this year, AT&T on Thursday confirmed that it will remove grandfathered unlimited data plans from accounts belonging to users who tether or use unsanctioned mobile hotspot apps without a tethering plan, which is expressly prohibited by AT&T according to its terms and conditions. “Earlier this year, we began sending letters, emails, and text messages to a small number of smartphone customers who use their devices for tethering but aren’t on our required tethering plan. Our goal here is fairness for all of our customers,” an AT&T spokesperson told BGR via email. The letter outlines three choices for customers who had been making use of unauthorized tethering solutions, one of which is “Do nothing and we’ll go ahead and add the tethering plan on their behalf — after the dated noted in their customer notification.” According to earlier reports, offending users will automatically be bumped to AT&T’s more recent tiered data plan, which affords 2GB of smartphone data and 2GB of tethering data for $45 each month compared to AT&T’s old unlimited smartphone data plan, which costs $30 each month but does not include tethering. A new report from 9to5 Mac claims that users will begin losing unlimited plans as soon as August 11th, but AT&T did not confirm that date."

8/4/2011 1:47:37 PM

Quote :

"I'm having the same exact issue with my launch i4. I can't always replicate the problem, it seems to come in spurts."

same here.

8/4/2011 7:18:18 PM

for some reason my iPhone running iOS5 (beta 1) just reset itself randomly and now I can't turn it back on without restoring my phone. itunes is telling me that my software is too old so I can't restore from backup.

what

the

fuck

8/4/2011 9:41:18 PM

yea my launch 4 does the same... never been annoying enough to make me do anything about it though.

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 9:43 PM. Reason : ^^ (the home button stuff)]

8/4/2011 9:43:29 PM

so now it says "you're all set to use your new phone" and when I click ok it keeps kicking me back out to the setup screen

8/4/2011 9:55:07 PM

^ update to beta 3?

8/4/2011 10:08:47 PM

yeah just downloaded the newest beta

wtf though. that sucked.

8/4/2011 10:52:54 PM

as an update, I took my flaky iPhone 4 in to the Mac store. Convinced the 'genius' that it was a hardware issue and not due to having too many apps open in the background as he was suggesting, and they replaced it with a brand new phone.

It was out of warranty by about 2-3 weeks.

my suggestion: bring it in.

8/5/2011 10:11:59 AM

Quote :

"for some reason my iPhone running iOS5 (beta 1) just reset itself randomly and now I can't turn it back on without restoring my phone. itunes is telling me that my software is too old so I can't restore from backup."

There's a reason they tell you to use the beta exclusively on devices used for development and testing.

8/5/2011 1:05:37 PM

Has there been any inkling as to when IOS5 would drop to the public?

8/5/2011 1:16:47 PM

i would guess when the iphone5 comes out

which is supposedly september/october

8/5/2011 2:04:13 PM

is the iPhone 5 really going to be here in september? if so, do you think it'll drop the price on the 4?

i just broke my 3gs a few days ago, and i don't really want to buy a new one for $400, or a 4 for $700 if a new one will be out soon and knock the price down

[Edited on August 5, 2011 at 2:07 PM. Reason : ^interesting]

8/5/2011 2:06:50 PM

^take the broken one in and see if they'll do anything to help you out. My wife took an iPhone 4 in that had been run over by a car and it was only $100 to replace

8/6/2011 3:44:33 AM

beta5 is buggy as shit. Instagram not working properly, WWF keeps freezing. weird grey bar at the bottom of my Messages screen. anyone else having these problems?

8/9/2011 5:38:21 PM

I mean...it's a beta. What did you expect?

[Edited on August 9, 2011 at 10:38 PM. Reason : If it was me, I'd put out torrents of the buggiest shit I could manage to fuck up all the non-devs]

8/9/2011 10:36:21 PM

Quote :

"Stein:I'm sorry that I think integrating something like Facebook chat is more useful to the average consumer than iMessage? I guess that's just because I know more people use Facebook than use iDevices."

Speaking of: http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/09/suck-it-sms/

8/10/2011 9:59:28 AM

http://www.macworld.com/article/161694/2011/08/iphone_support.html#lsrc.nl_mwnws_h_crawl

8/11/2011 5:03:43 PM

Quote :

"By contrast, iPhone users’ problems are typically handled in just one session. "

Yes, because the answer is always "Who the hell knows? Go to the Genius Bar."

8/11/2011 6:37:39 PM

Haha. I think they troubleshoot iPhone problems on the phone now.

8/11/2011 6:40:01 PM

Quote :

"UGH i don't know if this is really the approp thread. but this question is about my iphone (amongst other things) so i got an iphone 4 (a new white one SO TRES CUTE) and i have a macbook 2,1 (circa 2006) with the 2gz intel core 2 duo processor annnnd running mac os x 10.4.11. and i have a problem. i bet you know what it is!!! it is itunes. i can't use my current version of itunes with my iphone. i can't update itunes because i am running osx10.4.11 and i have to have 10.5x or higher to update itunes. but since i have the intel macbook can't i just skip to 10.6 aka snow leopard? so my questions: do i have to get snow leopard? and if so, is there not a snow leopard download (i feel as though i know the answer to this is no, but figured i'd ask)? i mean i know you can download lion but i need the disc for snow leopard, right? what if i happened upon a torrent of it? that's bad right (but what if)? and if i get snow leopard should i just go ahead and upgrade to lion (you can't go from where i am straight to lion. blah)? i just didn't know if there were any other problems that i'd run into re: my iphone cooperating with my computer that would necessitate the jump from where i am to snow leopard to lion. basically i just want to be able to use itunes with my iphone NOW and i don't know if theres anyway to do that. i'm guessing not. i just have to install snow leopard with the dumb disc which i don't have and will have to wait for. but i'd also like to avoid other issues in the future where i plug my phone into my computer and it gets all aggro and is like, your shit is too old. but if you know anything i don't or if i am missing something here i'd appreciate the help. i am new to iphone land (my ipod worked and still works fine with my version of osx, but it is a pretty old nano so). i was just trying to put songs on it so i could go running haha."

hahahahaha. so, you can't update something as simple as MP3s on a device because your OS won't support a pretty basic program? IT'S A MOTHA FUCKIN USB PORT, JESUS! WTG, Apple, hahahahahahaha

[Edited on August 11, 2011 at 6:55 PM. Reason : ]

8/11/2011 6:55:08 PM

Yes yes we already know Apple is horrible about legacy support.

8/11/2011 6:58:14 PM

Just got an iphone 4, any must have apps?

8/16/2011 3:30:41 PM

couldn't wait a month for the iphone 5?

8/16/2011 3:42:32 PM

"Find iphone" app!

lol bobby

8/16/2011 3:51:35 PM

^^ Nope, got a used one and am selling my old phone for the same amount so it didn't really cost me anything.

8/16/2011 3:57:39 PM

This thread has a lot of goto app lists, read back a few pages and you will find. Or try searching in this thread.

8/16/2011 7:04:16 PM

this is the first upcoming iPhone release where i don't feel the need to upgrade...the iPhone 4 has everything i could want, i needed the highres screen and now i have it. I feel like there are many people that feel this way,,..anyone else?

[Edited on August 16, 2011 at 7:31 PM. Reason : this is of course easy to say since they haven't released any info on it yet ]

8/16/2011 7:31:17 PM

with the limited info we have on 5 and the fact that i'm totally content with 4 i don't care that much about upgrading

8/16/2011 7:36:15 PM

I'm still on the 3G, so I'm very much looking forward to upgrading. And hey, if the 5 sucks, the 4 would do just fine (and be cheaper) so I feel pretty good about it either way.

8/16/2011 8:27:22 PM

^same here! My phone is really crappy right now so I am hoping they release it in sept rather than oct!

8/16/2011 10:51:03 PM

http://parislemon.com/post/9075145535/streamlining

I wish AT&T would just die in a fire.

8/18/2011 2:33:31 PM

Just don't be cheap and pay for unlimited.

8/18/2011 3:20:12 PM

We all knew this of course ... but I like how they explain again why paying for text messages is akin to being very blatantly ripped off.

http://gizmodo.com/5832245/atts-new-text-plan-overcharges-you-by-10000000

Quote :

"AT&T charges $25 for 2 gigabytes of mobile data, which states how much they think their bits and bytes are worth. That comes out to 80 megabytes per dollar. 80 megabytes will get you 500,000 text messages—assuming you're writing the largest possible message, which you're often not (i.e. "Hey" "Nothing" "lol"). Now divide that dollar by the 500,000 potential texts. That comes out to $0.000002 per text—two ten thousandths of a cent. A very, very, very small amount of money. Now, let's say you send 5,000 texts a month. That's a large, though wholly realistic number. Multiply that by the above worthless cost per text, and you've got—hold onto your wallet!—$0.01. A penny for five thousand texts, according to how much AT&T says its data is worth in a data plan. But outside of the data plan? Oh boy! Things get very different very fast. And by very different, I mean inordinately overpriced. Those same 5,000 texts, at a rate of $0.20 per message, will cost you $1,000. Not a penny—a grand. Two very different prices for literally the exact same thing."

8/18/2011 5:47:26 PM

Quote :

"Just don't be cheap and pay for unlimited."

It has nothing to do with being cheap. Even if texting were free, I still just don't see myself using it more than a dozen, maybe 30 times a month. Before when there was a $5 per month for 100 texts option I allllmost signed up for it but couldn't quite justify the waste of money. But now, $20 a month is the only option? Or $30 if you're on a family plan like I am. For something that's practically free? Not gonna happen. I just wish so many people weren't dumb enough to overpay for texting (read: everyone that pays ANYTHING for texting) so that AT&T wouldn't be able to get away with this shit.

8/18/2011 11:29:11 PM

i've sent almost 2300 texts this billing period, which started on the 2nd. how would you like me to not overpay for that?

8/19/2011 12:03:38 AM

You've missed my point. The fact that you're paying anything above your normal data rate means you're overpaying. No matter if you send 1 text or 10,000.

How many emails did you send this month? You probably don't know, or care, because when ISPs started out, nobody had the brilliant idea to start charging you on a per-email basis. Unfortunately, the same can't be said of texting.

8/19/2011 12:14:46 AM

Ok texts should be free.

8/21/2011 8:54:35 PM

Yeah, the text thing sucks balls. I think that data usage is going to be a big debacle, too.


In unrelated news, I'm not normally one to pay for apps--it has to be very useful to get me to shell out any money. However, I did spend $10 on FourTrack last night. It's just what it sounds like--multitrack recording for your iPhone. It doesn't have the features of a DAW or anything--it's pretty much the electronic, cell-phone equivalent of using an old 4-track recorder (except that it's easier and better than fumbling with tapes).

I recorded a cover of Neil Young's "Down By the River" last night. The first limiting factor seems to be the iPhone's built-in mic...it distorts easily at relatively low volumes. It's still cool, though..

8/22/2011 11:24:22 AM

Maybe discussed in the previous 200 pages?

Sprint to get iPhone 5 and iPhone 4 in October?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/23/iphone-5-coming-to-sprint-other-carriers-in-mid-october/

8/24/2011 9:37:17 AM

can someone break down this text messaging thing?

8/24/2011 10:38:55 AM