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"Plan C Beg herb to comeback and offer an effigy of statefans.com."

where's the [NO] guy when you need him?

4/5/2006 10:28:22 AM

out of that list who would you rather have? I like what Gillespie has does with A&M. He seems to have turned that program around.. not sure how old he is. I like Crean and i think he's still fairly young but we'd have to fork over alot of money.

4/5/2006 10:28:49 AM

^^the fans ran him out of town too

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 10:29 AM. Reason : d]

4/5/2006 10:29:03 AM

If we are really out of the Barnes race

then

Tubby then
Tom Crean

Crean is an excellent coach although no one talks about him.

4/5/2006 10:30:40 AM

Kentucky fans want Tubby out just as much as we wanted Herb out. I am not really sure as to why but my guess would be because they havn't made the final four since 98 and they had a horrible year with alot of talent this year. I like Tubby, but would like to know if their are any other reasons for them wanting him gone.

4/5/2006 10:32:12 AM

Most of the media is saying to expect a press conference sometime today confirming Barnes staying in Texas, and his pay raise

4/5/2006 10:32:49 AM

we don't need to keep saying it in 12 different threads

Barnes is definitely out, so move on

4/5/2006 10:33:38 AM

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"Kentucky fans want Tubby out just as much as we wanted Herb out. I am not really sure as to why but my guess would be because they havn't made the final four since 98 and they had a horrible year with alot of talent this year. I like Tubby, but would like to know if their are any other reasons for them wanting him gone. "

thats what other people said about us.

4/5/2006 10:33:53 AM

i don't give a shit what any of these web runs say. nobody is out of the question as of now. nobody is gonna admit publicly that they are seriously considering taking another position, because if they end up not...it will screw them with their own fanbase. these articles mean shit, and they are just as worthless as predicitions being made on this very message board.

4/5/2006 10:34:37 AM

we need motherfuckin falco n' shit

4/5/2006 10:34:54 AM

^^so shut up then.

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 10:35 AM. Reason : df]

4/5/2006 10:35:19 AM

^^rock me amadeus?

4/5/2006 10:37:03 AM

Well i don't to a whole lot about these coaches I'd prob go


1.Bill Gillispie - Texas A&M, Tom Crean - Marquette
2.Mark Turgeon - Wichita State
3.Dana Altman - Creighton (how long has he been there?) 12 years
4.Gregg Marshall - Winthrop

i just don't think these guys will be able to Recruit atleast not right away

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 10:55 AM. Reason : 12 yrs]

4/5/2006 10:37:22 AM

so why would you go in that order?

is that the order you've been reading on message boards

4/5/2006 10:39:11 AM

fuck it

lets get turgeon and get this over with

4/5/2006 10:40:16 AM

Quote :

"i don't give a shit what any of these web runs say. nobody is out of the question as of now. nobody is gonna admit publicly that they are seriously considering taking another position, because if they end up not...it will screw them with their own fanbase. these articles mean shit, and they are just as worthless as predicitions being made on this very message board."

I'm just keeping my hopes down I've gotten use to it over the years with State makes it easier to swallow when things don't go your way

which seems to happen more often then not

4/5/2006 10:40:50 AM

Is Tubby known as a good recruiter? I bet the name Kentucky is good enough for most recruits. I wonder how he would do at another school.

4/5/2006 10:42:32 AM

honestly, well probably have someone awesome say something promising, then theyll ditch out on us last second and well end up with haith.

4/5/2006 10:43:01 AM

Quote :

"so why would you go in that order? is that the order you've been reading on message boards "

because i can


Who's at the Top of your list?

4/5/2006 10:43:15 AM

anyone read the post on packpride about barnes history with job offers

it was pretty interesting and promising

4/5/2006 10:47:15 AM

If there is anything I have learned during my tenure over the last 20 years as a State fan is that we have not been the best at getting decent coaches. I don't have my hopes up.

4/5/2006 10:48:16 AM

^^^ but you said you don't know much about the coaches you named

so why that order?

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 10:48 AM. Reason : ^]

4/5/2006 10:48:23 AM

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"honestly, well probably have someone awesome say something promising, then theyll ditch out on us last second and well end up with haith."

that wouldn't surprise me, and if it happens Lee Fowler would need to be fired within a week...

4/5/2006 10:49:57 AM

^^becasue from the info picked up in the last day or 2 thats how i order them you just dont get to see those teams play as much as Texas, Memphis, and Nova.

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 10:51 AM. Reason : d]

4/5/2006 10:51:35 AM

I sincerely hope that Haith is much further down the list than the media has been indicating.

4/5/2006 10:52:31 AM

ok, so you made your list from what other people are saying....


that's a good way to live your life, pal

4/5/2006 10:52:31 AM

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"anyone read the post on packpride about barnes history with job offers it was pretty interesting and promising"

can someone summarize?

4/5/2006 10:52:47 AM

basically

he has a history of telling the media he's happy with the job he has while making secret late-night meetings with ADs and presidents

http://mb17.scout.com/fnorthcarolinastatefrm1.showMessage?topicID=55924.topic

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 10:55 AM. Reason : ]

4/5/2006 10:53:49 AM

If a large part of his renegociation involves more pay for his assistant coaches then it leads me to believe that he's staying in Texas(ala the Beamer situation from years past).

4/5/2006 10:55:22 AM

if calipari, barnes, wright, and montgomery all are out, then i think the next best option is Bill Gillispie. he is a solid recruiter and was key in getting dee brown and deron williams at illinois when he was an assistant.

4/5/2006 11:02:40 AM

Quote :

"anyone read the post on packpride about barnes history with job offers it was pretty interesting and promising "

it was posted a couple pages back and there is a thread about it

4/5/2006 11:14:17 AM

can someone post the scout.com insider article on Biedenbach's reaction to Herb leaving??

4/5/2006 11:17:37 AM

Quote :

"Kentucky fans want Tubby out just as much as we wanted Herb out. I am not really sure as to why but my guess would be because they havn't made the final four since 98 and they had a horrible year with alot of talent this year. I like Tubby, but would like to know if their are any other reasons for them wanting him gone."

Ummm I hate to say it but really I think the majority wanted Herb to STAY because most of us with brains KNEW this would happen. WE CAN'T GET A DECENT COACH NOW!

I want Herb back.

I mean we are talking about hiring Frank Fucking Haith. What the hell is he worth???

4/5/2006 11:18:17 AM

inside word on street..

barnes is 95% decided on coming.

NCSU offered a little over $2.1mill...

4/5/2006 11:18:35 AM

^^I am with you in that boat....

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 11:19 AM. Reason : ^]

4/5/2006 11:18:49 AM

Quote :

"inside word on the street"

4/5/2006 11:21:13 AM

Fowler is keeping things tight-lipped. I actually like that we're not out there officially saying who we want and offering right away. It takes much of the speculation out when it's that open and it takes the fun away. We're not going to know anything until there is a press conference. We're just not....

4/5/2006 11:23:42 AM

folwer knows its barnes or bust for his ass

4/5/2006 11:25:14 AM

everyone already knows how secretive barnes is...there no chance in hell he'd let anything get to the media before anythings final...

but i heard ncsu is looking mightttttyy fine...

4/5/2006 11:26:37 AM

We'll probably get Larry Krystowiak from Montana.

4/5/2006 11:26:50 AM

KEV.....what are your sources..cause I dont believe you

4/5/2006 11:29:13 AM

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"It sounds like this job is really a hot opening. Word is that Fowler has been overwhelmed with the amount of responses from coaches, agents, etc. trying to get a foot in the door for the NC State coaching job, and should Barnes reject an offer from NC State we imagine the position would be wide-open. With the amount of cash NC State appears to be offering, you can believe the Wolfpack will land a very, very good coach. It just might take some time, which should be fine if the right coach is hired."

SO FUCK ALL OF YOU THAT SAY IT WAS A BAD IDEA TO GET RID OF HERBIE AND WE CAN'T GET ANYONE BETTER!

quit listening to the pussy ass media, and let this thing play out

ALL OF YOU SAYING THIS SHIT FUCKING SUCK, EAT A DICK AND GO BACK INTO YOUR HOLES, YOU ARE HELPING NOTHING AND YOUR POINTS ARE MEANINGLESS!


AND BY THE WAY.....the majority did NOT want herb to stay, so quit repeating this nonsense as well!

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 11:29 AM. Reason : .]

4/5/2006 11:29:15 AM

I don't see how you can say the majority wanted him gone.

On this board the Herb Haters were just more outspoken but it seemed as Herb still had more support than not. If we can find a good coach then ok, but what if we are stuck with Frank Haith? Was it worth running Herb off? The NCAA 2nd round is better than making the NIT.

4/5/2006 11:32:34 AM

Lee Fowler is very well connected in the college basketball community

4/5/2006 11:32:44 AM

^^Herb apologists are just as fucking outspoken

LIES are what you are propogating here....

EVERYONE was disappointed with this season, realized that it has been a DECADE under herb, see no light at the end of the tunnel as far as this rinky dink offense goes, is unhappy with herbs intensity/commitment to our major rivals, and realize that we were set up to take major lumps next year

7/10 pack fans I have talked to say this "herb was good for the program, but I am happy he is gone, and excited as hell for the future"

4/5/2006 11:35:12 AM

^ i agree

Herb was good for us, he helped us rebuild...but I feel like he was at the end of his road and now that he is gone we have a chance to see if we can continue to build our program and become National Champions again...or at least ACC champions for a start.

4/5/2006 11:40:15 AM

Quote :

"inside word on the street"

That is worse than sayin inside sources. Man I hope you are right, but where are u getting this info from.

4/5/2006 11:40:20 AM

i said this earlier in another thread:

Quote :

"after having thought about this, this is a win-win situation. alas, perhaps the sentiment of "fire herb" may have been correct, but i'm glad he ultimately left on his own terms, and with a significant pay raise. but the sentiment of "herb sucks" is downright wrong, and people who say such things should have their head checked. Herb is finding his niche of being the "rebuilding" coach. he was just never a "championship" coach. he can play his role well, and will bring Az State up to respectability. the legacy of Wolfpack Basketball beckons a championship coach. here's a big sincere "thank you" to a guy that rebuilt us from the shambles he inherited, and here's a "farewell and good luck" to him for the rebuilding job he has ahead of him."

4/5/2006 11:40:50 AM

sources from Corchiani's son.

i also heard from some people in hickory that are friends with the family, and evidently Mrs. Barnes wants to be back in NC

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 11:44 AM. Reason : .]

4/5/2006 11:42:52 AM

^lol

4/5/2006 11:43:16 AM