stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
2007-2008 Freshman Lewandowski C (1) Hickson F/C (2) Smith F (3) Thomas G/F (4) Gonzalez G (5)
Sophs Davis G Horner G/F (6) Costner F (7) Ferguson G (8) Degand G (9)
Juniors McCauley F (10) Fells G (11)
Seniors Harris F Grant G/F (12) Albritton G (13) Williams G
Assumong Albritton is one scholarship (i'm not sure if he is), two would have to not quailify, transfer, or get scholly pulled. 4/6/2007 11:23:58 AM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I had just copied it from when I did it a couple months ago. Johnson is in the list now. I guess this definitely means someone is transferring or leaving early.
13 total scholarships are allowed 8 every two years (5 total in one year)
Current Scholarships (10): Sr. Engin Atsur (2003) Sr. Brian Nieman (2004? - not sure whose scholarship he picked up, probably ceds) Jr. Gavin Grant (2004) So. Courtney Fells (2005) So. Ben McCauley (2005) rFr. Brandon Costner (2005) rFr. Trevor Ferguson (2005) Fr. Bartosz Lewandowski (2006) So. Farnold Degand (2006) Fr. Dennis Horner (2006)
2007 Scholarships (13): Sr. Gavin Grant (2004) Jr. Courtney Fells (2005) Jr. Ben McCauley (2005) rSo. Brandon Costner (2005) rSo. Trevor Ferguson (2005) So. Bartosz Lewandowski (2006) Jr. Farnold Degand (2006) So. Dennis Horner (2006) So. Marques Johnson (2006) Fr. JJ Hickson (2007) Fr. Tracy Smith (2007) Fr. Johnny Thomas (2007) Fr. Javi Gonzalez (2007)
2008 Scholarships (14): Sr. Courtney Fells (2005) Sr. Ben McCauley (2005) rJr. Brandon Costner (2005) rJr. Trevor Ferguson (2005) Jr. Bartosz Lewandowski (2006) Sr. Farnold Degand (2006) Jr. Dennis Horner (2006) Jr. Marques Johnson (2006) So. JJ Hickson (2007) So. Tracy Smith (2007) So. Johnny Thomas (2007) So. Javi Gonzalez (2007) Fr. CJ Williams (2008) Fr. Julius Mays (2008)
2009 Scholarships (11): rSr. Brandon Costner (2005) rSr. Trevor Ferguson (2005) Sr. Bartosz Lewandowski (2006) Sr. Dennis Horner (2006) Sr. Marques Johnson (2006) Jr. JJ Hickson (2007) Jr. Tracy Smith (2007) Jr. Johnny Thomas (2007) Jr. Javi Gonzalez (2007) So. CJ Williams (2008) So. Julius Mays (2008)
[Edited on April 6, 2007 at 11:49 AM. Reason : added johnson] 4/6/2007 11:27:32 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Seniors Harris F Grant G/F (12) Albritton G (13) Williams G
Assumong Albritton is one scholarship (i'm not sure if he is), two would have to not quailify, transfer, or get scholly pulled." |
Only one of those four guys is on scholarship
and you, also, left off Johnson from your list.4/6/2007 11:28:40 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "have a total of 12 13 scholarship players." |
4/6/2007 11:36:29 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
isnt the Tracy Smith deal still not closed? 4/6/2007 11:38:29 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
^he hasn't signed a LOI yet, as far as I know 4/6/2007 11:41:03 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
if Tracy still hasnt signed his LOI the time would be now, right isnt it spring signing time in april
maybe we need to plan ahead as if he isnt going to be here 4/6/2007 11:43:13 AM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
April 11th 4/6/2007 11:45:35 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Should be pretty soon, yeah. He couldn't sign in the fall because he hadn't taken the SAT yet (IIRC).
The question was whether the NCAA would qualify Mt. Zion academically for this year. 4/6/2007 11:46:02 AM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
Mt. Zion is off the NCAA naughty list, i can't beleive i forgot Johnson 4/6/2007 11:47:16 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
^in that case, then Smith is pretty much a closed deal. 4/6/2007 11:47:55 AM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "have a total of 12 13 scholarship players." |
good call, i thought it was 12
[Edited on April 6, 2007 at 11:50 AM. Reason : strikethrough]4/6/2007 11:50:15 AM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
we don't have any room for em, plain and simple. just let it go cuz it's not gonna happen. 4/6/2007 4:01:51 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
so who all is coming? bill walker? 4/8/2007 5:48:53 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=901549b14cac48d0a8318e216a4e3899
more from sutton 4/8/2007 5:52:24 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
^well, i sure hope not everything in that article is true. cuz if lowe contacted a player who has signed an LOI you might as well add that to a growing list of NC State off season shenanigans. That would be a blatant recruiting violation, i mean wtf is going on here? 4/8/2007 9:28:25 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah, definitely not happy about that article. 4/8/2007 9:33:44 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
sutton said beasley said....beasley hasnt said a damn word. I hope Sutton is just talking out of his ass. 4/8/2007 9:44:27 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ son of a bitch 4/8/2007 9:55:45 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
i would really like to know what's going to come of this. is this the calm before the storm? or is nothing going to happen cuz the kid didn't have his facts straight. this has really got me worried. 4/8/2007 10:02:34 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Sure the article didn't say Lowe contacted Sutton rather than Beasley? 4/8/2007 10:26:16 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldn't sweat it too much.
although what do i know about recruiting policies?
[Edited on April 8, 2007 at 10:27 PM. Reason : i'm guessing as much as everyone else here] 4/8/2007 10:27:24 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sure the article didn't say Lowe contacted Sutton rather than Beasley?" |
what would it matter? they have both signed LOI's4/8/2007 10:32:29 PM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
Sutton is talking out of his ass. From what I've heard, intermediaries btw Beasley's camp and our's(notice i did not say lowe) have spoken. No one's talked to Sutton, we are not involved with him and I don't think him and Beasley are as much of a package deal as he thinks. 4/8/2007 10:35:13 PM |
jnpaul All American 9807 Posts user info edit post |
beasley is nasty
he looked ridiculous in the McD's AA game
definately will be a star in NBA if that game is any indication 4/8/2007 10:50:30 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
so did mcroberts and paulus 4/8/2007 11:24:03 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what would it matter? they have both signed LOI's" |
signed, Larry Davis Dan Werner
A school can let you out of your LOI and play immediately, it's not technically transferring. however, I read somewhere that the K State AD will be playing hardball and not let them out of their LOI without sitting out first.4/8/2007 11:27:19 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
^way to completely miss the point.
Contacting a kid who has signed an LOI is a recruiting violation. 4/9/2007 5:06:55 AM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
^^refer to this post:
Quote : | "^well, i sure hope not everything in that article is true. cuz if lowe contacted a player who has signed an LOI you might as well add that to a growing list of NC State off season shenanigans. That would be a blatant recruiting violation, i mean wtf is going on here?
" |
4/9/2007 7:00:11 AM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
it seems like half of the posters in this thread have a NCAA recruiting handbook nearby.
Where can i get one of them janks? 4/9/2007 8:57:15 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
i found several copies in the dumpster behind cameron indoor 4/9/2007 9:01:17 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
I think what NCSUMEB was referring to was how when Sendek left, Larry Davis and Dan Werner although still bound to us by the LOI's were getting contacted by other schools. Davis we know for a fact was contacted by Seton Hall, and probably a few others, and Dan Werner was definitely contacted by Notre Dame and Florida. No recruiting violations were brought down on those schools. I know we're NC State and that'd be some NC State shit if we did get some kind of punishment from the NCAA, but perhaps the NCAA tries to look the other way when a situation occurs like when the coach leaves. Most kids nowadays go to a school first b/c they like the coach and his system. Facilities, campus, academics, and the fans are secondary. So it's not exactly a bad thing for a kid to look around for a situation that might better suit them. 4/9/2007 11:05:55 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "AxlBonBach i found several copies in the dumpster behind cameron indoor " |
ahahahaha4/9/2007 11:07:06 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "8 every two years (5 total in one year)" |
Just so you know, this rule is no longer in place.4/9/2007 11:18:54 AM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
^^^bingo. The K-state AD can play "hardball", but the reason we let Davis and Werner out of their LOIs was because in the end it doesent matter anyways and Sidney didnt want it hanging over his head on the recruiting trail. We said we would play "hardball" with those guys too, but in the modern NCAA it really makes you look bad for doing so to any future recruits you talk to. The incoming coach for K-state wont have that because it will make it harder for him to recruit.
I just love how we are suddenly in the mix for all of these top "go NBA early" players now that we have Lowe. These Carmello Anthony types are the ones that carry teams to championships and can actually help us match the talent we've been compared to at UNC for so long.
Lets hope that Hill doesent stay at Kstate and that Bartosz and maybe even Harris' kid are ready to pay for school themselves!
[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 11:25 AM. Reason : ] 4/9/2007 11:25:10 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
I believe Simon Harris is already a walk on. 4/9/2007 11:38:33 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Larry Harris kid Simon is not on scholarship. He's a walk-on. I remember him saying in a preseason interview when practice was beginning something to the effect of that he always wanted to be a part of this program, and now had an oppurtunity to do so. Also he said that since he already knew the players pretty well, he was able to come in and feel like a part of the team from the get go. 4/9/2007 11:39:20 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
http://tinyurl.com/2ylj54
[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 11:54 AM. Reason : tiny] 4/9/2007 11:53:31 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^ if you go to the nc state basketball tags, a few articles down
Quote : | "Sidney Lowe's Kid Charged With Nearly Every Conceivable Crime" |
title made me laugh, as bad as the whole thing is 4/9/2007 12:26:32 PM |
dwmcilmo All American 622 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah obviously Simon has a connection to the team b/c his dad has been an assistant at State since the early days of Herb Sendek... when i was younger and used to go to the Herb Sendek basketball camp he was there at least one year I remember. I never even realized his dad was Larry Harris till i saw he was on scholarship over at Elon 4/9/2007 3:33:12 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
I live in Kansas and everything I am hearing is that Beasley is staying now that they've hired the assistant guy as the head coach. We should just let these rumors die. 4/9/2007 3:48:12 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.arkcity.net/stories/040907/spo_0004.shtml 4/9/2007 5:09:58 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
This is a good thing guys. Yes, I know he is a great talent but if he comes here, who are you going to bench? Costner? McCauley? He's one and done and would not stand to sit on the bench for our guys who have already proven to be dominant ACC big men. If Grant gets deported, let him come. Otherwise, this is good news. 4/9/2007 5:17:08 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I was already dreading the ego problems surfacing over playing time. Beasley would not want to sit on the bench much and we just have so many starters returning and talent coming in, he wouldn't get the PT he's looking for more than likely. 4/9/2007 7:02:09 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I agree, if this was a dominant guard coming in, then I would be all for it. But we just have too many good big men for them to all get as much PT as they want. 4/9/2007 7:13:58 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^OLD and still speculative 4/9/2007 7:39:05 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Oh if it were the #1 PG in the country I'd be excited and all for it. But it's another forward, and I do believe Sidney has gotten us enough of those as it is. 4/9/2007 10:45:43 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
article on packpride about tracy smith, basically saying he'll sign the first or second day of the spring signing period (starts wednesday).
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/634136.html
if you don't have premium, usually if you ask for it in the thread... someone will pm the article to you.
[Edited on April 10, 2007 at 9:26 AM. Reason : link] 4/10/2007 9:26:20 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
its not a premium article 4/10/2007 10:05:39 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
well fuck me, i just assumed it was.
my bad! no cheating scout.com necessary here. 4/10/2007 11:43:10 AM |