^^ What he ^ said. If it were so OBVIOUSLY the husband there would have been some movement by now.

8/10/2008 7:23:26 PM

yep. pretty much any time its the husband it is clear enough to where the husband is picked off right away. hell, OJ was picked up well beyond this point. we're at a month now and they've made no moves. I think that is in part why they've let it fall off the map so much, so that people will forget about it. most people have mentally convicted the husband already and don't have that sinking feeling that anyone can be attacked for some unknown cause.

if you can search someone's home, office and watch them for a month but find nothing, then theres a good chance that nothing will come of further investigation into this person.

what i'm most concerned about is the children. they're with their bastard set of grandparents right now and could be saying all sorts of stuff about him to them. there is a distinct chance that they will never fully trust or connect to their father again.

sad, really.

and to joe_schmoe do you understand how incredibly biased you sound? you can mock whatever you want, and what theories people continue to point out, but as time passes more and more without any developments in this case you have to sit back and realize that the events may have come to happen under situations that you wouldn't typically suspect, especially given the unsavory facts that have come to light about the wife herself. There are people who are conspiracy theorist, but on the other side of the coin the ones who fail to acknowledge reality are just as painfully stupid.

seriously.

8/10/2008 9:48:31 PM

how do you know they've found nothing? do you work for cary police? i was unaware

just because the police aren't sharing any of the details with the media and just because there hasn't been an arrest (and again some media frenzy) doesn't mean they found nothing.

it also doesn't mean that they did find nothing. i'm just saying. chill the fuck out.

[Edited on August 10, 2008 at 11:03 PM. Reason : did/didn't whatev.]

8/10/2008 11:02:21 PM

why so serious

8/10/2008 11:03:10 PM

Quote :

"do you understand how incredibly biased you sound?"

do you understand how incredibly biased homicide statistics are?



[Edited on August 11, 2008 at 1:03 AM. Reason : ]

8/11/2008 1:03:12 AM

^3

look at the aggressive nature of your post, and then decide objectively who it is that needs to "chill out". Just because i suggest some facts that you may not want to agree with doesn't automatically make me a bad person, nor does it add any credibility to what you want to say. As I recall, at the start of this thread, i said that she was dead and you went on a rant, similar to the one above, stating how she may not be dead and how i needed to stop jumping to conclusions then. so far, based on the history, i'll take my assertions over yours.

^2
okay, i lawled.


^1
Yes, i do understand those and that is why i've acknowledged time and time again in this thread how it could be the husband or typically is the husband, but as the case changes and information points away from that being the case then you have to accept the facts as they are presented. What brings bias to your comments is your unwillingness to alter your initial perspective on the case despite what evidence to the contrary is posted. where can i purchase one of these magical bubbles in which you live?

8/11/2008 12:48:54 PM

Quote :

"i'm just saying. chill the fuck out. "

should probably take your own advice

8/11/2008 12:51:41 PM

I'm sure that the CPD are more than qualified to handle a murder investigation...


wait.


Nevermind.


To Botch a murder investigation.



If they had evidence sufficient enough to pin a case on this guy, he'd be in custody now. They obviously don't. I also don't think it takes a month to build a case against someone in a case like this, especially after the amount of attention they've given him.

Logically you have to conclude that unless he's some sort of seasoned murder professional who knows how to cover his tracks extremely well, then he's not the one who did it.

8/11/2008 1:10:53 PM

8/11/2008 2:38:54 PM

8/11/2008 2:49:14 PM

Quote :

"Just because i suggest some facts that you may not want to agree with doesn't automatically make me a bad person, nor does it add any credibility to what you want to say. As I recall, at the start of this thread, i said that she was dead and you went on a rant, similar to the one above, stating how she may not be dead and how i needed to stop jumping to conclusions then. so far, based on the history, i'll take my assertions over yours."

1. the reason i said chill the fuck out is because you've been saying the same thing since like page 1. we get it. no one has found anything. and much how the investigation isn't really changing, neither are your theories/assumptions/logic...whatever word you choose to describe it

2. you haven't stated any "facts" that i disagree with. i mean everything everyone says in here is just based on opinion and assumptions etc. but you have your holier than thou attitude like you have cracked the case. well damn, i guess you should probably give someone with authority all your facts...it seems like they could use the help.

3. i never said you were a bad person

4. i never said anything i stated was credible. again it is just OPINION like yours.

listen sherlock holmes, when you're right and everyone else is wrong we can be like, wow he was completely right, cray cray. but i'm just saying i don't understand how you 100% know how the police are operating, what they're doing, and they've found nothing. for all we know, maybe they did have evidence but someone fucked up and did something stupid (like legally) so now they're screwed. and by evidence i mean any at all...NOT just pertaining to brad cooper. it doesn't really seem like anyone fucking knows, does it? and considering our (as in the general public) only source of info is a) the media or b) gossip all i said was that it MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT (emphasis on MIGHT) be an assumption to say that just because WE haven't heard anything, they (the po po) haven't found ANYTHING (and by anything, i mean literally ANYTHING not just something on brad cooper). but everytime anyone points out something however a remote possibility, you're all like no, that isn't plausible, obviously this happened.

AND in my post above i made a sarcastic comment. not aggressive.

people who don't understand sarcasm and dry senses of humor ftl

(don't take that personally ps. that is just a side note in general.)

8/11/2008 3:23:15 PM

you people?

8/11/2008 3:40:07 PM

my god



youpeople

[Edited on August 11, 2008 at 3:58 PM. Reason : .]

8/11/2008 3:57:46 PM

for starters, you weren't being sarcastic at all. If anything you were making a poor, and i emphasize poor, attempt at being sardonic. at this moment i would also care to point out that being sardonic (or sarcastic for that matter) does not mean one is not also being aggressive. These are not mutually exclusive. regardless of which, chill the fuck out is generally seen as aggressive. now that this rudimentary understanding of conversational structure has been brought up to speed, lets address the actual bread and butter.

I disagree that I have said the exact same thing since page 1. From the start i said that she was dead and then i moved on to saying that i feel that its most likely the husband, but as time went on and more information was divulged about this case it became more and more clear that the possibility of it being the husband was less and less likely. This isn't hard to understand. To date no one has been arrested, so its a safe claim to make, given the numerous personal searches of brad's personal areas, that he is likely to not be the killer. The police themselves have even stated him as not a person of interest. It can't get more clear than this, i do not suppose. Anything inferring that he is likely the killer would be more so on the side of haphazard guess work and intellectual dishonesty than it would be a solid claim based on the facts as presented.


Given the way this case has unfolded when compared to other cases of similar ilk it is safe to say that 1. it is not the husband, and 2. that this case will not play out like the status quo. I admit that anything involving people to whom she owed money is a guess, but based on what has been reported so far it is not a guess without merrit, and i assure you it is an avenue which the police themselves are looking into. I would consider what you have as an opinion or an equally weighted theory but as far as i can tell, you bring nothing of that sort to the table and reside only to complain about that which people have to say.

8/11/2008 4:02:37 PM

8/11/2008 4:03:28 PM

^you are why kep and i broke up

8/11/2008 4:07:10 PM

can't we all just get along?


oh wait, this is tdub... nvm.
carry on with the bickering.

8/11/2008 4:18:43 PM

i don't even think you read my post. it wasn't really about brad cooper and whether he did or didn't do it. it was about YOU.

but watch out, i'm aggressive.

8/11/2008 4:30:59 PM

i'm making points that are both relevant to you and joe_schmoe

this isn't hard to comprehend.

was that last sentence saracastic?

or was it sardonic?

you be the judge.

8/11/2008 4:44:29 PM

the internets are serious bidniss.

:-/

8/11/2008 4:47:41 PM

i'm sorry i have trouble understanding so much

8/11/2008 4:52:26 PM

i understand. its perfectly clear.

we, the rabble-rousing public, have no fucking idea what the cops know or don't know.

me, I prefer to bet the odds: therefore I say the husband did it rather than the Nigerian Mafia.

however, I am leaning more and more toward the C.P.D. == Barney Fife theory.

8/11/2008 4:55:22 PM

rawr?

8/11/2008 5:08:36 PM

Quote :

"If anything you were making a poor, and i emphasize poor, attempt at being sardonic."

holy shit, nice. serious cat just pwnt khacknbalz

8/11/2008 5:40:42 PM

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"all the WRAL article says is that the friend didn't go jogging with her that morning...not that Nancy didn't go jogging it's basically the most worthless update ever"

8/11/2008 6:20:36 PM

Come on CPD - Schillaci is getting impatient

8/14/2008 9:18:37 PM

still no update yet.

waiting to see if the search warrants get unsealed.

8/31/2008 3:44:50 PM

maybe they'll get unsealed today. They're supposed to unless the judge reseals them.

THEN WE CAN FIND OUT WTF IS GOING ON.

9/2/2008 7:06:00 AM

they've been unsealed

warrants were pretty much issued based on brad's inconsistent statements the day his wife disappeared

i don't feel like linking it, but it's on the WRAL homepage

9/2/2008 11:09:49 PM

yeah nothing in them really earth shattering for either side.

9/2/2008 11:13:50 PM

so... im wondering what they base their original statement on, that it was not a random killing and the public has nothing to worry about.

considering how its looking like they dont know what the fuck happened, for them to say something like that seems like negligence.

9/2/2008 11:18:08 PM

they said it because they have evidence that it's not random. the warrants aren't going to list every piece of evidence they have.

9/2/2008 11:19:21 PM

Have they arrested anyone yet?

9/8/2008 7:12:39 AM

nope

9/8/2008 7:17:58 AM

I do not think they even have a clue at this point and are just hoping for something to fall in their lap.
If you know it's an isolated crime and you have a group of people you can single out. What in the world takes you 2+ Months to straighten out?

9/8/2008 11:10:23 AM

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" NOT. THE. HUSBAND. "

9/8/2008 11:46:11 AM

It was the maid with the candlestick in the study.

I'm willing to bet everything on it.

9/8/2008 12:09:38 PM

Quote :

"Brad Cooper's attorneys post surveillance video on Web site Posted: Today at 2:40 p.m. Updated: Today at 4:45 p.m. RALEIGH, N.C. — Attorneys for a slain Cary woman's husband, who has been the subject of public scrutiny in his wife's death, have posted grocery store surveillance video and receipts on their Web site in an effort to "restore reason to what has become an unreasonable and persecutory situation." In the eight videos posted Tuesday afternoon on the Kurtz & Blum Web site, Nancy Cooper's husband, Brad Cooper, can be seen entering, buying what appears to be milk, Tide washing detergent and juice and leaving between 6 a.m. and 7 a.m. at a 24-hour Harris Teeter grocery store. The video and accompanying receipts, his attorneys say, "set the record straight" about when he was at the store and refute speculation that he was buying bleach the morning his wife disappeared. Calls to the attorneys, Howard Kurtz and Seth Blum, were not returned Tuesday afternoon. The Web site also criticizes Cary police Chief Pat Bazemore, who has said Nancy Cooper's slaying was not a random crime. She has released little other information about the investigation and has not named any suspects. "One hopes her statement is based on more than the wish to maintain Cary's reputation as a safe place to live," the Web site states. "Unless she begins supporting her conclusions with evidence, there is no reason to blindly accept Chief Bazemore's naked assertion as true." In a statement Tuesday afternoon, Bazemore said releasing details of an ongoing investigation could jeopardize the case – "something I'm sure no one wants to see happen," she said. “Cary citizens know that if there is ever any chance that they are at risk, the Cary Police Department informs them and protects them," she said. A friend reported Nancy Cooper missing on the afternoon of July 12 after she failed to show up for a planned meeting. Brad Cooper told authorities his wife went jogging around 7 a.m. that morning and never returned. Two days later, a man walking his dog found her body, wearing little clothing, in an undeveloped subdivision outside Cary's town limit – less than three miles from the Coopers' home. Brad Cooper is now involved in a high-profile case for custody of the couple's two young daughters, who have temporarily been placed with Nancy Cooper's parents and sister. Court filings in that case indicate the couple was in the process of separating, and affidavits from Nancy Cooper's friends characterize Brad Cooper as being mentally unstable, emotionally abusive and controlling. Referring to those friends as the "Cary Clique," the Kurtz & Blum site accuses them of seeing aspects of the marriage through "colored glasses." "This is fine for people who are simply providing emotional support and comfort to a friend, but it would be a terrible way to run a murder investigation or to decide a legal issue," the Web site states. The attorneys also posted two photos of Brad Cooper's neck to rebut an investigator's claim in a search warrant affidavit that Cooper had unexplained scratches on the back of his neck. "The photos reveal that if any marks were present on 7/12/08 when Det. Daniels noted them, that they were so insignificant as to be entirely gone a mere five days later," the site states. It also says that Brad Cooper did not explain the scratches because he either didn't have any or no one asked him about them."

go here to see the videos:

http://www.kurtzandblum.com/CM/Investigation/Nancy-Cooper.asp

9/16/2008 7:11:32 PM

Quote :

"Everything that Jessica Adam and her Cary Clique heard from Nancy was seen through divorce colored glasses."

what pantone number would that be?

9/16/2008 7:58:30 PM

Dude killed her. His defense lawyers are already getting a running start.

9/16/2008 8:28:15 PM

im not its saying its right...but i understand

9/16/2008 8:29:02 PM

Quote :

"Dude killed her. His defense lawyers are already getting a running start."

9/16/2008 9:28:47 PM

interesting development.

9/17/2008 12:22:52 AM

So this was a huge deal - all in the news and now no one remembers.

As far as media is concerned.

9/23/2008 8:36:02 AM

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"Cary police Chief Pat Bazemore"

lol women

9/23/2008 8:46:08 AM

http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/3603463/

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"Cary, N.C. — An anonymous donor will provide a granite bench to be placed in Cary's Regency Park in honor of Nancy Cooper. Cooper, a Cary mother of two, was found dead in July, two days after her husband said she went for a run. Her case is considered a homicide, but police haven't said they have any suspects. Friends said she loved to run the greenways at Regency Park. A local couple, who are in the granite business but wished to remain anonymous, is donating the bench to the town. It will be placed on the northeast edge of Symphony Lake. A dedication ceremony is set for Oct. 12."

thanks WRAL.

9/25/2008 4:35:46 AM

Quote :

"NOT THE HUSBAND "

9/25/2008 9:08:06 AM

Quote :

"An autopsy report released Monday has found that Nancy Cooper likely died as a result of "asphyxia by strangulation.""

Now there's an article to go with it: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3638830/

[Edited on September 29, 2008 at 6:10 PM. Reason : ]

9/29/2008 5:55:59 PM

Quote :

"Cary citizens know that if there is ever any chance that they are at risk, the Cary Police Department informs them and protects them"

whew.

that's a relief.

9/30/2008 12:28:58 AM

set em up

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 12:40 AM. Reason : p]

9/30/2008 12:35:40 AM