Quote :

"Just a question for you, would I be receiving this line of questioning if I was for gay marriage?"

it wouldn't be the same line of questioning as pointed out by Ernie but it there would be follow up questions.

Quote :

" I never said something had to be explicitly mentioned by the Bible, I simply added it in as one of the things that has helped shape my beliefs. I'll fully admit I've sinned before since I love shellfish."

so eating shellfish is a sin and things that are not in the bible can still be a sin. what is the deciding factor if something is a sin or not? can something be a sin for one person and not for another?

6/1/2009 2:40:59 PM

Bitch, you're on my wolfweb, every conversation involves me.

And I never said you were dumb. I said that the line of thought you pursued to reach the conclusion that gay marriage is wrong was dumb.

I now question your ability to read.

6/1/2009 2:41:19 PM

^2 Well, I was mainly referring to just a line of questioning, of course not the exact same questions you're answering now.

I think a sin is just defined by a morally wrong act. With the shellfish, I looked it up (because I had honestly never heard of that): it came from Jewish oral tradition and was taught in the old testament by Leviticus and many modern Christians do not consider this a moral sin due to it not being part of Christ's teachings. The majority of Christianity is based on His teachings, obviously, so I guess it's up to the person to determine if they want Leviticus's teachings to carry over to them..


^ Oh really? I wasn't aware this was "Ernie's wolfweb." I can read just fine. My fault for thinking "you're dumb" goes hand in hand with "your reasoning is dumb." Geez.

6/1/2009 2:54:09 PM

I like that you put "you're dumb" in quotations, like you pulled that verbatim from one of my posts.

Quote :

"your dumb logic"

Quote :

"I now question your ability to read."

6/1/2009 3:09:32 PM

I never said that was what you said. I was talking about how *I* mentioned calling names. The whole point was to show I thought they were going hand in hand -- stop trying to create a mountain out of a mole hill.

6/1/2009 3:13:51 PM

don't get trolled, sam

6/1/2009 3:15:42 PM

^ Doesn't trolling involving making someone mad or getting a rise out of them? I'm actually pretty calm right now.. but I guess I still haven't figured out wtf is involved in trolling.

6/1/2009 3:17:07 PM

i used to think the same, but have since came to my own conclusion that anytime someone gets you to waste time arguing online, you have been trolled.

6/1/2009 3:18:50 PM

Great... because I don't mind arguing. I guess I'm a prime person to troll.

6/1/2009 3:23:50 PM

Maybe you should practice then, because you aren't very good at it.

6/1/2009 3:25:14 PM

^ I see what you did there........

Anyways, I would enjoy some more questions... that aren't as controversial.

6/1/2009 3:26:56 PM

Did you know "anyways" is an incorrect usage of the adverb "anyway"?

6/1/2009 3:28:12 PM

Why do you post on TWW? Let's face it, there are better things we could be doing with our time.

6/1/2009 3:31:17 PM

What's the matter, Ernie? Angst from knowing the Braves are yet again third place at best? Trolling hard in this thread...

And

Will TWW ever fucking work right again?

6/1/2009 3:31:41 PM

Quote :

"I think a sin is just defined by a morally wrong act. With the shellfish, I looked it up (because I had honestly never heard of that): it came from Jewish oral tradition and was taught in the old testament by Leviticus and many modern Christians do not consider this a moral sin due to it not being part of Christ's teachings. The majority of Christianity is based on His teachings, obviously, so I guess it's up to the person to determine if they want Leviticus's teachings to carry over to them.."

I'm glad you mentioned leviticus. I think a sin is technically a violation of holy law, so shouldn't a law have to be explicitly stated in order for its converse to be a sin?

Leviticus is the only place where the bible implies that homosexuality is a sin. Since Christ's teachings did not forbid homosexuality and the prohibition on it is merely a reflection of Jewish oral tradition, such as shellfish, then is it still a sin?

Your version of sinful included a concept of a code of morality, and you view homosexuality as a sin. assuming that being a homosexual doesn't negatively impact another person then what aspect for homosexuality makes it immoral?

*i just now saw your comment above regarding questions being less controversial. if you kindly answer these as fully as you are capable i'll refrain from the controversial issues for now.

[Edited on June 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM. Reason : edit]

6/1/2009 3:31:50 PM

^4 Thanks, grammar police.

^3 I know. I'm just posting a lot today because the termserv for my job is down aka I can't even do any real work. The only thing that I can do without using our computer system required maybe 30 min of real work... I think some stuff on TWW is funny though, so I guess that's why I post.

^2 What do you mean when will it work again? Are you referring to when it pops up and says the "oh shit" error message?

^ No, I'm perfectly fine talking about it. I'm bored at work, too. Oh and I don't mind if we keep talking about it, I was mainly asking for less controversial questions for now so there would be a bit of lightness added to this heavy convo.

I'm aware that Jesus never specifically touched on the topic of homosexuality -- however, I think over time it became a big issue with Christianity because of Adam and Eve, which leads a lot of people to think/feel it's unnatural.. Even though I feel that way, I'm aware that a gay person would say heterosexuality is unnatural for them. And even though I think a sin is something immoral, I don't think every immoral act is going to harm someone else directly. For example, if I see a gay couple walking down the street it really doesn't harm me. But the marriage between them is something I don't believe in, so when I'm choosing to vote for someone or discuss politics with someone, I'm going to vote for the person whose beliefs match mine the most and I'm not going to hold back from stating what I don't believe in (respectively). And immorality is really defined as something that conflicts with a held set of beliefs, so that's why I feel it's immoral (to me).

I think there's a decent amount of teachings one would get from Christianity that has expanded over the years and didn't just come from Jesus's mouth. I think it's just up to each individual to decide what interpretation of the scriptures they feel is best and what they choose to follow. Some denominations seem to follow Leviticus's teachings to heart while others seem to not count them as much.


[Edited on June 1, 2009 at 3:57 PM. Reason : .]

6/1/2009 3:32:56 PM

why has IRSeriouscat been all up on your nuts lately?

6/1/2009 3:38:59 PM

^ I don't know? I think it has mainly been one other person, not really him.. I don't have a problem with seriouscat.

6/1/2009 4:01:10 PM

I feel a lot of tension in this thread. Mommy just hit daddy at the dinner table.

6/2/2009 1:03:23 PM

i support gay rights. are we still allowed to be e-friends???

(my question is based on a quick skim of this page. i'm not tryin to even jump in on that discussion, haha)

[Edited on June 2, 2009 at 1:06 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2009 1:06:22 PM

when you got someone like dick cheney even saying he thinks ppl should be able to love whoever they want, then u know the current system is fucked up

6/2/2009 1:20:28 PM

^3 Hahaha... "I don't wanna eat......"

^2 Of course!!! Trust me, I'm not one of those people that pick my friends based on their beliefs... I know not everyone is going to feel the way I do, and vice versa. So it's all good.

6/2/2009 1:23:14 PM

has anyone seen UP yet?

6/4/2009 10:56:27 AM

yes

6/4/2009 10:57:17 AM

i have not, but i would like to

6/4/2009 10:57:19 AM

^2 it was good wasn't it

^ you should... it rivaled Wall-E for me, and that was my fave

[Edited on June 4, 2009 at 11:09 AM. Reason : someone ask me questions.. I'm bored at work ]

6/4/2009 10:59:05 AM

what should i wear to work?

jeans and a shirt like this:



or a dress like this except green:


or a dress like this except at the top it has one yellow, one red, and one green thin stripe:

6/4/2009 11:41:28 AM

i say the shirt and jeans combo without a doubt, especially if you have the right shoes. do you agree samwise?

what is the most favored trait of your boyfriend?

6/4/2009 11:43:13 AM

i say those poor girls need to eat something

6/4/2009 11:45:04 AM

Hmm... where do you work? I am torn between the jeans and the shirt or the green dress.. I like green


I would have to say his sense of humor. Humor is very important to me in a relationship and I like how he can pretty much always make me laugh even if I'm sad, mad, whatev. Although sometimes he'll make a joke during an inappropriate time -- for example church... He came to church with me and my family once (my mom and dad are Catholic) and after all the recitations and profession of faith, etc, he whispered (LOUDLY) "ONE OF US.... ONE OF US...." (Like in I-Robot)

At first I was all but then I was secretly

6/4/2009 11:46:53 AM

if the two of you don't last, what do you imagine it would be that would split you up?

6/4/2009 11:48:37 AM

a boutique in cameron village. i might wear the dress. whatever i wear i will be subsequently wearing out to dinner w/ the bfs parents for his dad's bday and then to the decemberists concert and then maybe out after. so maybe i should wear the dress. i just don't know. but thanks for the advice haha

6/4/2009 11:48:40 AM

^2 I would say cheating. I can't stand when people cheat on each other... My view on it is, if you want to be with someone else break up with me before you do it to save us both the pain.

Although I can't see him cheating on me, to be honest.. We both have the same POV on that topic.

^ Yeah then I vote for the green dress

[Edited on June 4, 2009 at 11:52 AM. Reason : oh and I'm talking about either physical or emotional cheating - both are no good]

6/4/2009 11:52:14 AM

did you see the Men Vs Wild with Will Ferrell? I missed it and heard mixed review about it. Still want to see it tho.

6/4/2009 11:59:23 AM

^ No I didn't... I heard he was ridiculous though -- not very surprising

you missed probably the most hilarious song I've ever sang at karaoke... Most people were like

6/4/2009 12:06:24 PM

haha I bet. You'll have to sing it again next time! Melissa is alive btw but lost her phone has you had suggested.

6/4/2009 12:12:02 PM

Mhm.. called it

What # phone is this that has been lost or broken?

6/4/2009 12:13:04 PM

ok i think for work i'm wearing jeans and shirt and bringing my green dress for dinner + concert afterwards.

is this a good plan?

6/4/2009 12:17:09 PM

In 30 to 60 words, will you please tell me what you think about my junk?

6/4/2009 12:18:31 PM

^2 Yes, I approve of that plan

^ Lilliputian, bitsy, bitty, diminutive, infinitesimal, insignificant, itsy-bitsy, itty-bitty, little, microscopic, midget, mini, miniature, minikin, minimum, minuscular, minuscule, minute, negligible, pee-wee, petite, pint-sized, pocket, pocket-size, puny, slight, teensy, teensy-weensy, teeny*, trifling, wee, yea big


haha I kid

6/4/2009 12:22:09 PM

then, what ya gonna do with all that junk? my suggestion?

1.)cut a hole in the box
2.) put that junk in that box

6/4/2009 12:23:06 PM

she knows step 3

6/4/2009 12:25:14 PM

just for that, I'm going to throw a used condom at your face if I ever see you

On a completely unrelated note: What is your full name, address, and phone number....also your five biggest fears,

[Edited on June 4, 2009 at 12:27 PM. Reason : alwo isn't even a goddamn word]

6/4/2009 12:25:38 PM

haha glad he lives far away.

6/4/2009 12:27:20 PM

i'll take care of the threat for you emce

6/4/2009 12:28:19 PM

ha ha ha, thanks for being my proxy

6/4/2009 12:29:51 PM

we lift weights btw

6/4/2009 12:32:56 PM

uh oh, i'm skurrd

6/4/2009 12:34:00 PM

DON'T GIVE HIM YOUR ADDRESS!!! he will give you conflicting gifts. like nice funny greeting cards with written messages that have backhand comments that still end in "love ya "

or checks for small amounts with inappropriate things written in the memo line.

6/4/2009 12:34:50 PM

hahahh



KKK membership dues

6/4/2009 12:36:21 PM