I fully realize it. I'm just not denying that people do it.

4/20/2016 6:01:52 PM

Quote :

"If you can find some data that actually shows this behavior is common and has had a material impact on an election then Ill consider the issue."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show#Operation_Chaos

4/20/2016 6:55:54 PM

I'm hoping this election cycle, combined with the Dem primary in 08, puts preassure on states to vote later. So many states have been trying to go as early as possible (and who can blame them when in 2000 and 2004 everything was mostly wrapped up by Super Tuesday), but now that this process has been going later and later, states may want to spread out more.

4/20/2016 7:24:16 PM

Or, and this would be even better, we could have a primary day and everyone vote at once following debates and campaigning.

4/20/2016 8:00:14 PM

I'd be fine with that, as long as it happened closer to the nominating conventions.

And everyone should be able to vote for any candidate in any party by only showing one photo ID upon arrival.

Then essentially the primaries would the main voting experience, and the vote in November is simply a runoff between 2 top candidates.

[Edited on April 20, 2016 at 8:59 PM. Reason : -]

4/20/2016 8:57:57 PM

the cool thing about spreading them out is that it gives the people of states like iowa and new hampshire a voice they wouldn't have otherwise. Same day primaries would mean all of the focus is on courting the voters of ny california texas florida pennsylvania.

4/20/2016 9:05:58 PM

It gives them a disproportionate voice. There's zero reason for Iowa and NH to carry any real weight in the elections.

The one positive of the extended primary season is that it helps to winnow down the number of candidates,

4/20/2016 9:12:47 PM

Maybe they should be ordered from smallest to largest. Gives the small states attention and makes it so candidates have to be committed for the long haul

4/21/2016 12:27:54 AM

Quote :

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show#Operation_Chaos"

Wikipedia eh?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/07/AR2008050703932.html?sid=ST2008050703934

In short, the effect of "Operation Chaos" was overblown. And GOP voters are predominantly white and middle/lower class...I think you can presume why they would prefer to vote for Hillary over Obama even without Limbaugh's operation.

Quote :

" But at least as much data suggested that many Republicans voted for Clinton because the Democratic primary was the more meaningful one and because they simply preferred her to Obama. In Indiana, about nine in 10 GOP Clinton voters said she would make a better commander in chief, and more than six in 10 said she would have a better shot at beating McCain."

[Edited on April 21, 2016 at 10:04 AM. Reason : a]

4/21/2016 10:01:59 AM

Quote :

"the cool thing about spreading them out is that it gives the people of states like iowa and new hampshire a voice they wouldn't have otherwise."

hilarious considering your position on southern states voting early. I guess the voices that you think should be heard tend to come from white mouths

i can't help but think of 2012 Karl Rove as I listen to all the 'splaining

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwuR0jCavk

[Edited on April 21, 2016 at 3:25 PM. Reason : .]

4/21/2016 2:57:49 PM

Why do you insist on making everything about race? I like the idea of going small to large because you can't just focus on one region at a time. Candidates are known to change their platform as the election shifts and they would look silly if you spread out when different parts of each region voted.

4/21/2016 9:37:52 PM

What exactly is my position on southern states voting early?

[Edited on April 21, 2016 at 11:08 PM. Reason : -]

4/21/2016 11:08:37 PM

the voting order isn't the problem, its the fact that we have shit media in this country

4/22/2016 8:59:08 AM

The official 2016 FeelTheBern 'splainin select-o-matic

"The problem is that _________________"

A: southern states vote early
B: blacks can't think for themselves
C: the polls are inherently biased
D: we have shit media
E: superdelegates
F: there aren't enough caucuses
G: caucuses don't really work
H: wall street
I: voter fraud
J: people change platforms (but only the people I like are allowed to, the others are just political opportunists)

I like the cries of voter fraud the best, because that only plays into the GOP efforts to enact voter ID laws

[Edited on April 22, 2016 at 2:07 PM. Reason : .]

4/22/2016 2:05:02 PM

its election fraud and voter suppression, not voter fraud

both have been proven

4/22/2016 2:08:20 PM

^^
k

4/22/2016 2:12:51 PM

Quote :

"What exactly is my position on southern states voting early?"

are you Earl? because my post was in direct response to his quoted text in my post. sorry to rustly your jimmies, but nothing to be offended about. womp.

[Edited on April 22, 2016 at 2:17 PM. Reason : .]

4/22/2016 2:17:28 PM

Tbf, Earl hasnt been on this site in years so maybe you should be more clear about who your name calling insults are directed at.

4/22/2016 4:10:10 PM

lol k

speaking of K

K: poor people don't vote

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/23/sanders-says-he-has-lost-primaries-to-clinton-because-poor-people-dont-vote/?tid=sm_tw

guess he missed he lost people under $50K by 11 points to date

[Edited on April 23, 2016 at 10:05 PM. Reason : 'splainin]

4/23/2016 9:43:46 PM

i do agree with the idea that its wrong to think poor people support socialism just because it supports them. go to a place like mississippi and you will find droves of people who support the current system.

One campaign can't undo centuries of propaganda.

4/23/2016 10:31:19 PM

^^^^He was agreeing with me and you tend to lump us all together anyway, so I just assumed you were referring to all Bernie supporters as having some stance on southern states

4/24/2016 1:20:56 PM

Poor people will always vote in support of rich people, because they've been brainwashed by the concept of the "American Dream" that tells them that someday they most certainly will be rich, too.

4/24/2016 1:22:26 PM

^^^^
k

4/24/2016 8:13:18 PM

truth hurts

4/25/2016 10:15:04 AM

kay

4/25/2016 12:27:47 PM

i think that makes a triple K - or KKK, if you will - for you.

4/25/2016 1:13:13 PM

k

4/25/2016 1:37:33 PM

Sarah Palin predicted it on January 19th. I'm not sure how I feel about having to acknowledge that her crazy speech was actually point on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyfUu_fNQfM

Quote :

"We, you, a diverse dynamic, needed support base that they would attack. And now, some of them even whispering, they’re ready to throw in for Hillary over Trump because they can’t afford to see the status quo go. Otherwise, they won’t be able to be slurping off the gravy train that’s been feeding them all these years. They don’t want that to end."

Today we have this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xziPjrwtVII

Quote :

""We would have to believe her actions would be quite different than her rhetoric. Let me put it that way,""

And theres no reason to believe they wouldn't be considering her rhetoric is also different from her old rhetoric.

4/25/2016 3:30:10 PM

L: Because exit polls don't equal the actual election results, voter fraud exists. So sayeth Tim Robbins

All aboard the 'splain train!!



[Edited on April 25, 2016 at 4:35 PM. Reason : l]

4/25/2016 4:34:21 PM

k

4/25/2016 4:35:15 PM

the election fraud issue is much more compelling

4/25/2016 4:36:04 PM

On that note, Suffolk County, NY is doing an audit today

4/25/2016 4:43:32 PM

More like Hillary voters are ashamed of themselves for having no real conviction.

4/25/2016 4:47:00 PM

Also judge moves AZ lawsuit forward, with state officials trying to shut it down.

http://www.azfamily.com/story/31810506/judge-arizona-presidential-preference-suit-to-proceed

So glad we have goalielax here to Correct the Record though

[Edited on April 25, 2016 at 4:49 PM. Reason : .]

4/25/2016 4:48:20 PM

i find it hard to believe anything could be more compelling than an actor trying to 'splain how exit polls are more statistically valid than they actually are

[Edited on April 25, 2016 at 4:50 PM. Reason : .]

4/25/2016 4:48:45 PM

K

4/26/2016 4:56:13 AM

Quote :

"Correct the Record"

looks like Pavlov's dogs have a new bell

[Edited on April 26, 2016 at 9:27 AM. Reason : .]

4/26/2016 9:26:26 AM

[Edited on April 26, 2016 at 10:22 AM. Reason : nvm]

4/26/2016 10:21:35 AM

^^
hey at least it has a basis in reality, unlike Bernie bros

4/26/2016 11:52:40 AM

the only reality in which i am associated in any way with that group is the one which you've created in your head.

Tim Robbins batshit crazy twitter posting about bernie and exit polls is the berniebro reality to a tee

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/polls_say_bernie_is_more_electable_than_hillary_don_t_believe_them.html

[Edited on April 26, 2016 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

4/26/2016 2:48:59 PM

I don't think you're associated with them, I just think you're a deluded asshole.

4/26/2016 3:17:00 PM

k

anyway, bernie's latest fundraising email uses the photo of the clintons with the trumps at his wedding. because when your unobtainable policy promises fail to get you wins, you gotta go to the mats or something. such solicitations are basically burning money. but hey, at least he's redistributing money from the masses in to the coffers of broadcast networks and whatnot.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/26/sanders-fundraising-email-includes-photo-of-the-clintons-at-donald-trumps-wedding/

[Edited on April 26, 2016 at 4:46 PM. Reason : .]

4/26/2016 4:42:43 PM

gonna be funny to see how quickly the democratic party starts sucking up to the left after screwing us over so hard for so long.

4/26/2016 5:02:27 PM

^^ not that the Clinton/Trump connection isn't known, Bill even said very recently (past year) Trump is a friend.

Seems pretty damning for both Trump and Hillary how chummy they really are.

4/26/2016 6:05:45 PM

I just saw a clip of Hillary Clinton treating Pennsylvania like it's her home state. After Arkansas, Illinois, and New York, how many more home states can she have?

4/26/2016 7:25:55 PM

10

4/26/2016 7:56:24 PM

the polls keep getting it wrong. how on earth did Clinton win PA by so much???

4/26/2016 9:09:56 PM

Hillary basically treating this race as over (which it is). Trying to appeal to some Sanders supporters now.

4/26/2016 9:24:51 PM

Donald Trump is going to be president of the United States.

lol

4/26/2016 9:29:01 PM

he might. depends on whether or not the Bernie Babies stay at home in droves to spite Hilldawg. I'm going to guess that won't happen. but who knows?

4/26/2016 9:45:56 PM