no you werent....ben was better :-)

4/13/2008 5:25:17 PM

haha, did anyone watch the Heads Up Championship where Hellmuth last in the first match heads up to Tom Dwan. He is some high stakes online cash game badass, I think he plays under the name Durrrrrrrrr. Anyway, he beats Phils AA with 1010, and they had been talking some trash, then it got kinda nasty with Dwan talking shit to Hellmuth about how he never wins online and he will play Hellmuth anytime for any amount he wants heads up. I thought it as kinda jokingly, but it was really serious and you could tell Phil was fucking irate.

4/13/2008 11:41:02 PM

Durrr is pretty sick.

4/14/2008 1:45:45 AM

Does anyone know where to find a good live game around here? I play on Sportsbook all the time but me and my buddies are headed out to Vegas this summer and one of us are playing in the WSOP so we want to get our live game better. The only live games we can find now are the tavenpoker.com and worldtavernpoker.com little tournaments that they play during the week but most of those players are horrible and donkey off their chips. If anyone knows of a real money live tournament and they don't mind 2 or 3 more players shoot me a PM.

4/14/2008 11:58:41 AM

just play all the big field MTTs online. Practicing playing live isn't going to be too much of a help other than practicing patience. Its still the same game...

4/14/2008 1:22:00 PM

Quote :

"but most of those players are horrible and donkey off their chips"

Those tourneys should be perfect practice for the WSOP then.

4/14/2008 2:30:55 PM

Quote :

"PokerStars Game #16746766384: Tournament #84831891, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/04/15 - 10:51:26 (ET) Table '84831891 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: Nash NCSU (1665 in chips) Seat 3: SteaminFish (4730 in chips) Seat 8: TomBingley (5025 in chips) Seat 9: HetNoodlot (2080 in chips) HetNoodlot: posts small blind 75 Nash NCSU: posts big blind 150 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Nash NCSU [Th Ts] SteaminFish: folds TomBingley: raises 300 to 450 HetNoodlot: folds Nash NCSU: raises 1215 to 1665 and is all-in TomBingley: calls 1215 *** FLOP *** [4c Qd 5h] *** TURN *** [4c Qd 5h] [6d] *** RIVER *** [4c Qd 5h 6d] [Jd] *** SHOW DOWN *** Nash NCSU: shows [Th Ts] (a pair of Tens) TomBingley: shows [Kd 9d] (a flush, King high) TomBingley collected 3405 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3405 | Rake 0 Board [4c Qd 5h 6d Jd] Seat 1: Nash NCSU (big blind) showed [Th Ts] and lost with a pair of Tens Seat 3: SteaminFish folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: TomBingley (button) showed [Kd 9d] and won (3405) with a flush, King high Seat 9: HetNoodlot (small blind) folded before Flop "

Ugh.. I hate playing SUPER tight the whole SNG, to set up this guy, and BS happens. He raised from the button each time since we turned 4 handed (top 3 get paid). He apologized for it.. I'm just like DUB-TEE-EFF!?!?

4/15/2008 10:55:42 AM

It's not that bad a play.

4/15/2008 11:08:56 AM

no pot odds, against someone who has clearly showed himself as a tight player.

975 in pot... 1215 to call... guess i don't understand donkey poker.

[Edited on April 15, 2008 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .]

4/15/2008 11:22:18 AM

not that bad of a play...I see shit like that all the time, not to say that I wouldn't be a little pissed tho

4/15/2008 11:25:22 AM

if he doesnt call he looses equity.

endgame is all about equity

[Edited on April 15, 2008 at 11:39 AM. Reason : e]

4/15/2008 11:39:25 AM

Quote :

"975 in pot"

Try again.

4/15/2008 11:53:56 AM

UB just broke the news about epassporte with a 10.00 credit. I srsly hope they have blackjack because I cannot stand their poker room.

Maybe absolute, ft and ps will follow suit.

4/15/2008 8:37:31 PM

after starting with $50 last august, making it to $2500 (took about $500 out), losing a shitton of money in one drunken night, wavering back and forth between $500 and $1500

I finally lost it all (even though I took a little out before my stupidity streak)

fack

time for a little poker break but I'll be at it again next month

What site should I go to next? Pokerstars or FT?

Bodog is getting on my nerves and I need a change. I use to love Bodog for the loose stupid players and now I hate it for that.

4/15/2008 9:08:39 PM

def FTP. Rakeback makes all the difference in the world (unless you plan on getting platinum star on Stars, then I've heard arguments that it's better)

4/15/2008 11:19:28 PM

Curiosity question:

Whats the most buy ins you've had at a ring game compared to the max buy in.

I'm sitting at .05/.10PL w/ 45 bucks...4.5x the max buy in of 10, which is I think my best online, not live.

4/20/2008 8:03:34 PM

I got rivered on a flopped full house last night. that's why they call it gambling I guess...

4/20/2008 8:19:38 PM

No. That isn't why they call it gambling.

4/20/2008 8:21:56 PM

but thats why i call you a prick.

4/20/2008 8:23:13 PM

One time I sat down at a $50 max table and a guy had like $800. He was insane, raising to $20 every hand and sucking out a bunch. I just waited him out and ended up taking $600 of it. Some other guy got the rest.

My biggest win was at a table game in Foxwoods where I bought in for $100 and cashed out like $900. I guess in terms of percentages the latter win is better, but in terms of straight cash the live game was the best.

4/20/2008 8:33:46 PM

i once had about 1k at a 50cent/1 dollar HU cash game, full ring game wise i remember having around 2600 at a 2/4 NL game on Bodog

4/21/2008 9:55:19 AM

So I really like reading stories/blogs about professionals tournaments or a poker hand they remember.

ESPN.com only has two or three decent articles a week.

Anything you guys read?

4/21/2008 3:43:47 PM

cardplayer

4/21/2008 4:06:38 PM

I played half a season of world tavern and got in the top 25...it's fun but there isn't much reward other than the fun. You basically have to play every single night two or three times a day to place in the top 10. There are some pretty bad players, but most of it is because they're inexperienced or are just playing because it's something to do. Most of the players are at least decent though. There are some very good players too, so it's a good mix of what you'd see in a "real" tournament.

4/21/2008 6:19:29 PM

Anyone know why cakepoker sucks so much at verifying emails?

4/23/2008 7:11:54 AM

cakepoker? wtf is that

4/23/2008 9:21:03 AM

Hands like this make me LOL. I love people who think naked aces are a smart hand in omaha.

PokerStars Game #16935887827: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/04/23 - 10:53:36 (ET)
Table 'Beryl II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: homeboy27 ($46.55 in chips)
Seat 2: GuitarBob ($46.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Magicmms ($48.25 in chips)
Seat 5: dzags18 ($53.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Pokerromo ($56.60 in chips)
homeboy27: posts small blind $0.25
GuitarBob: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dzags18 [Kd 6d 6h Kh]
Magicmms: folds
dzags18: raises $1.25 to $1.75
Pokerromo: folds
homeboy27: raises $4 to $5.75
GuitarBob: folds
dzags18: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [3h Ks 9h]
homeboy27: bets $8
dzags18: calls $8
*** TURN *** [3h Ks 9h] [4d]
homeboy27: bets $26.65
dzags18: raises $12.85 to $39.50 and is all-in
homeboy27: calls $6.15 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [3h Ks 9h 4d] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
homeboy27: shows [4s 2h As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
dzags18: shows [Kd 6d 6h Kh] (four of a kind, Kings)
dzags18 collected $91.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $93.60 | Rake $2
Board [3h Ks 9h 4d Kc]
Seat 1: homeboy27 (small blind) showed [4s 2h As Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 2: GuitarBob (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Magicmms folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dzags18 showed [Kd 6d 6h Kh] and won ($91.60) with four of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: Pokerromo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

4/23/2008 10:56:49 AM

Yum.

PokerStars Game #16958533973: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/04/24 - 10:43:44 (ET)
Table 'Melusina II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: hersco1 ($210.40 in chips)
Seat 3: CMulls14 ($217.75 in chips)
Seat 4: dzags18 ($162.20 in chips)
Seat 5: auro1974 ($189.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Gudini ($118.95 in chips)
Gudini: posts small blind $1
hersco1: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dzags18 [Jd 8d 7c 8c]
CMulls14: folds
dzags18: raises $4 to $6
PKRM5TR has returned
auro1974: calls $6
Gudini: folds
hersco1: folds
*** FLOP *** [6c Qd 5c]
dzags18: bets $6
auro1974: calls $6
*** TURN *** [6c Qd 5c] [4s]
dzags18: bets $12
auro1974: calls $12
*** RIVER *** [6c Qd 5c 4s] [9c]
dzags18: bets $24
auro1974: raises $60 to $84
dzags18: raises $54.20 to $138.20 and is all-in
auro1974: calls $54.20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dzags18: shows [Jd 8d 7c 8c] (a straight flush, Five to Nine)
auro1974: mucks hand
dzags18 collected $325.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $327.40 | Rake $2
Board [6c Qd 5c 4s 9c]
Seat 2: hersco1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: CMulls14 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: dzags18 showed [Jd 8d 7c 8c] and won ($325.40) with a straight flush, Five to Nine
Seat 5: auro1974 (button) mucked [Kh Tc 7s Ac]
Seat 6: Gudini (small blind) folded before Flop

4/24/2008 10:47:08 AM

The great thing about that hand is your opponent probably jumped for joy when the club hit.

4/24/2008 10:53:05 AM

Yeah, me too. I was praying for either a 4c or the 9c. I figured they had both my bases covered - either he had a set and was waiting to pair the board or he was on a flush draw. Although I would've been pretty pissed off had he hit any other club considering how weak his hand was.

4/24/2008 11:02:32 AM

How long does an eCheck withdrawal on Stars take if I have never used the eCheck function for deposits or withdrawals in the past? I had previously only deposited via ePassporte, but I need to get some of my money out.

4/24/2008 4:25:24 PM

I believe one of my very favorite things is watching very bad players having a conversation on poker strategy. It's especially entertaining because generally they have no idea how bad they suck or that they even do suck.

Wow I just got AA twice in a row.

4/24/2008 11:24:19 PM

If its at a MTT you can always call them out on their OPR. That usually shuts them up.

4/24/2008 11:57:15 PM

Ah, good old naked aces. A great way to lose money when another ace doesn't flop. You really do have to treat them pretty much like any other pair in omaha.

4/25/2008 1:14:07 AM

haven't played poker in 1 year; yet managed to wipe clean 1st in a game with some of my old co-workers who play all the time.

buy-in $20.

I walked w/ $120 of the $200 pot. 2nd took 80 as agree upon



props to me. knock on wood but i played myself well

4/25/2008 1:24:21 AM

Quote :

"PokerStars Game #17014749243: Tournament #86217198, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/04/26 - 18:41:27 (ET) Table '86217198 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: bcscb (2035 in chips) Seat 2: drewson (1320 in chips) Seat 3: cptnchapps (4395 in chips) Seat 4: jonah2008 (1760 in chips) Seat 7: warrr (2825 in chips) Seat 9: QuadPods (1165 in chips) QuadPods: posts small blind 25 bcscb: posts big blind 50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to bcscb [Jh Th] drewson: folds cptnchapps: folds jonah2008: raises 150 to 200 warrr: folds QuadPods: folds bcscb: calls 150 *** FLOP *** [Kh 3c Kd] bcscb: checks jonah2008: checks *** TURN *** [Kh 3c Kd] [Qh] bcscb: bets 400 jonah2008: raises 1160 to 1560 and is all-in bcscb: calls 1160 *** RIVER *** [Kh 3c Kd Qh] [2h] *** SHOW DOWN *** bcscb: shows [Jh Th] (a flush, King high) jonah2008: shows [Ah Ks] (three of a kind, Kings) bcscb collected 3545 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3545 | Rake 0 Board [Kh 3c Kd Qh 2h] Seat 1: bcscb (big blind) showed [Jh Th] and won (3545) with a flush, King high Seat 2: drewson folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: cptnchapps folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: jonah2008 showed [Ah Ks] and lost with three of a kind, Kings Seat 7: warrr (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: QuadPods (small blind) folded before Flop"

Villain has no reason to be upset correct?

[Edited on April 26, 2008 at 6:49 PM. Reason : ,]

4/26/2008 6:47:42 PM

It's not the absolute worst play I have seen but of course the guy is gonna be pissed that you hit an 11 outer (2h, 3h, 4h, 5h, 6h, 7h, 8h, 9h, 9d, 9s, 9c). With 8 cards already shown, that leaves 44 available so you were 11/44 or 25%.

I don't think it's really an equitable play in the long run because after he pushes, I can only put him on a range of the following hands:
AA
AK
K-x
AQ
QQ
Maybe (a big maybe) and underpair like JJ or even 77
A total bluff

Notice you can not beat any of these hands with the exception of a bluff, so when you click call you know you are a big dog, maybe even drawing to 2 outs for a straight flush. So for a pot of 2360 (200+200+400+1560) you have to call 1360, or about 60% of the total pot value with a 25% chance of winning. So, in retrospect, it looks like to me he made the right play with the push and you made a poor call but sucked out.

4/26/2008 9:33:19 PM

Quote :

"Villain has no reason to be upset correct?"

lol

4/26/2008 11:50:01 PM

Hey!

We are having a game tonight near Brier Creek. PM me if you are interested Lots of fun and donks like me playing.

4/27/2008 3:44:55 PM

^^^

I have been thinking about this hand off and on for the past day or so and I want to renig what I said before. I don't want to sound like a dick or a know-it-all, but the call you made is exactly why good players make money playing poker and exactly why bad players lose money. You only had a draw and you called a bet more than half the pot size and (probably even more importantly) you put like 80% of your starting chips at risk on absoluely nothing.

This is what is absolutely wrong with poker, is so many people do not understand the mathematics behind it. I have not done the math here, but I would guess that in the long run your play is approximately as bad as calling a preflop all-in with 72 off when you know your opponent has AA. The key thing behind EVERYTHING is that just because you have a straight draw, a flush draw, and overs, it does not mean it's a good idea to call. If you had pushed the river or something to that effect, then kudos. There is an absolute difference between going all-in on a draw and calling an all-in on a draw. I could go way into the numbers but one of the huge principles is fold equity, ie of the range of hands we had the guy on before, he will most likely only call with AA, K-x, or QQ, and before even if he was pushing with A10 on a huge bluff, you were still way behind, and now he would muck his A10.

So those are my thoughts. I will post this hand on 2+2 and see what others have to say.

4/27/2008 5:06:11 PM

They will say it was a terrible play, which it was. You got lucky, thats all there is to it, that is in no way a profitable play.

4/27/2008 5:11:40 PM

Any advice on a good monitor? I want something big enough that I can 8 table without them being small as shit.

4/27/2008 6:24:32 PM

DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP

4/27/2008 6:44:18 PM

Ohh that looks fun. That what you use david?

4/27/2008 7:47:43 PM

I have a smaller dell lcd + an additional generic lcd

4/27/2008 7:53:26 PM

DONKAMENTS!!!

PokerStars Game #17042116456: Tournament #85346215, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/04/27 - 21:16:26 (ET)
Table '85346215 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: A is A (5681 in chips)
Seat 2: Indyvbdave (8115 in chips)
Seat 3: partygirl (22861 in chips)
Seat 4: haroen555 (6002 in chips)
Seat 5: jeff710 (4710 in chips)
Seat 6: BLUEANDWHITE (3956 in chips)
Seat 7: david0603 (6625 in chips)
Seat 8: shiptosails (5731 in chips)
Seat 9: bvdwijdeven (9975 in chips)
A is A: posts the ante 50
Indyvbdave: posts the ante 50
partygirl: posts the ante 50
haroen555: posts the ante 50
jeff710: posts the ante 50
BLUEANDWHITE: posts the ante 50
david0603: posts the ante 50
shiptosails: posts the ante 50
bvdwijdeven: posts the ante 50
david0603: posts small blind 200
shiptosails: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Th Tc]
bvdwijdeven: folds
A is A: folds
Indyvbdave: folds
partygirl: raises 800 to 1200
haroen555: calls 1200
jeff710: folds
BLUEANDWHITE: raises 2706 to 3906 and is all-in
david0603: folds
shiptosails: folds
partygirl: calls 2706
haroen555: raises 2046 to 5952 and is all-in
partygirl: calls 2046
*** FLOP *** [9h Qc Qs]
*** TURN *** [9h Qc Qs] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [9h Qc Qs 6d] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
partygirl: shows [Kd 9d] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
haroen555: shows [Kh Qh] (a full house, Queens full of Kings)
haroen555 collected 4092 from side pot
BLUEANDWHITE: shows [Ac Ts] (a pair of Queens)
haroen555 collected 12768 from main pot

4/27/2008 9:21:47 PM

wtf was going on in that hand?

btw im doing the ferguson challenge but a little different. Ive had 5 people give me 5:1 that i cant turn $1 into $1000 in 6 months (well actually 5 months and 25 days). They have my login and password to keep it legit. I started 2 days ago and won about $15 in a .10 rebuy tournament and then about 40 in $2 sit n gos. and around $10 in the .5/,1 nl ring games. So im up to around $67. we'll see how that goes, but needless to say a lucky start.

I may decide to chart it if anyone cares

4/28/2008 1:52:24 PM

How much is the bet?

4/28/2008 2:01:09 PM

100 a person

4/28/2008 2:35:37 PM

What happens if you go bust?

4/28/2008 2:36:30 PM