theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
What would you guys pay (per round) for 9mm, .45 ACP, or .223/5.56?
Like, if you had a few hundred rounds of each, and didn't need any, and just wanted to stock some away at absolutely non-inflated prices?
(cheap range ammo, I mean) 7/17/2013 11:35:15 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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.32 a round for 9mm, .40 a round for .223. No idea on .45
Anything cheaper is just added benefit.
[Edited on July 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM. Reason : .] 7/17/2013 11:50:59 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
I'm holding off on buying either until 5.56 is back to ~.30-.32/rd and 9mm is .20/rd. Prices have been dropping weekly on both, so I don't think it'll be too far before we're back to normal prices 7/18/2013 12:19:21 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
^^That seems a little high for 9mm. Not arguing with you...I just seem to remember paying $13 or so per 50-rd box of 9mm just a few months ago (.26/rd).
I just bought my first .223/5.56 about a month ago, but I don't think I've seen one brass-cased round go for .40 yet. I think the best I've actually seen available has been 45 cents/rd.
^ yeah, and that was gonna be my next question. Think we'll see prices come back down, or will this be the "new normal", and the improvements will be just in availability?
I missed the worst of the '08 shortage (I was in Iraq), and the only hard-to-find caliber I had at the time was .45 ACP. (.22 WMR and 7mm REM were never an issue). I don't recall how things played out that time, and I didn't stock up big time after that one because I figured it was a fluke.
...but I'm going to buy thousands and thousands and thousands of rounds as soon as it's available and at prices I don't think are likely to go much lower.
[Edited on July 18, 2013 at 12:26 AM. Reason : ] 7/18/2013 12:23:08 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
^ ladies and gentlemen, this is why we have had shortages 7/18/2013 8:14:55 AM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'd hate, but I'm going to do the same. 7/18/2013 10:12:31 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
What else can you do? The paranoid idiots (and there are many) who set the hoarding cycle into motion are the problem, but there's nothing you can do about them. You can either reactively hoard, or be forced to fuck with ammo availability next time some left-wing politician needs to score a few political points with his base.
I'm not talking about buying until normalcy returns (at least mostly), anyway. 7/18/2013 11:36:59 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone practicing less? 7/18/2013 10:18:53 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
I've had two serious training sessions since Sandy Hook. I haven't shot more than that because I can't replace my ammo at a price I can stomach. 7/18/2013 11:26:43 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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I've had two classes as well, but I have cut back on the bi-weekly range trip.
I found ammo, so I'm doing ok, but I'm not where I want to be yet.
I have 1.5k of each caliber I shoot, but won't start really using it again till about 2k inventory 7/19/2013 12:09:38 AM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
I high school economics I believe they called this the tragedy of the commons.
Quote : | "What else can you do? The paranoid idiots (and there are many) who set the hoarding cycle into motion are the problem, but there's nothing you can do about them. You can either reactively hoard, or be forced to fuck with ammo availability next time some left-wing politician needs to score a few political points with his base." |
7/19/2013 10:13:46 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Just bought 2000 rounds of 9mm Rem UMC at Gander Mt in Cary/Morrisville. .27/rd
Limit 10 cases (1000 rds each) 7/20/2013 12:34:19 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Got to send my P232 back to Sig; the much dreaded take down lever breakage has reared its ugly head. I need a quick turnaround because I need to qualify with it the next couple of weeks.
I did get to put about 250 rounds through my Ruger LCR; I'm hurting now. 7/20/2013 12:58:07 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Nothing about 250 rds through an LCR sounds fun. 7/20/2013 1:16:19 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i don't understand paying that much for ammo that you're just gonna stockpile 7/20/2013 1:21:53 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
I don't reload, and I'm going to shoot it, not stockpile it indefinitely.
I haven't seen any 9mm that cheap in months, and not really any cheaper even in the last couple of years. 7/20/2013 3:02:25 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i don't shoot 9mm, but i thought you could get it for $.20/rd and less a year ago 7/20/2013 3:12:05 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
I bought a bunch of CCI Blazer Brass 9mm 124gr FMJ from PSA on 11/12/2012 for $8.99 a box, free shipping. I'll probably hold off on buying anymore in any quantity until it is back to about that price - I don't shoot 9mm enough to need it
[Edited on July 20, 2013 at 3:31 PM. Reason : $0.18 / rnd] 7/20/2013 3:31:04 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
What's everyone opinion on the P938 as a carry gun? I shot one today and really enjoyed it but have heard horror stories of their reliability. Might look at one to replace the P232 after reading up on the issue I mentioned earlier. 7/20/2013 4:25:27 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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I have a 938, and I love how it shoots. I can repeatedly hit a 14x18" steel plate at 30 yards with it.
I have one of the ones that has issues though. It FTExtract about 5-10%. It only has 200 rounds through it. I have read 3-400 needed to iron out problems. I can also send it to sig and they will take care to it. 7/20/2013 6:45:12 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
See that is what scares me; this gun will be used in an official UC capacity at times. I need it to go bang should the need arise again. 7/20/2013 7:30:10 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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Everyone who has one that works, has it work 100%. Everyone who has sent theirs in, has said it came back 100% . Shouldn't need to break in or send off a $700 gun to make it work.
I'll stick with mine because of how well it shoots, feels, and carries.
[Edited on July 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM. Reason : .] 7/20/2013 7:36:08 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Did I strike a nerve? 7/20/2013 8:16:15 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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Nope, just got sidetracked and finished the thought quickly 7/20/2013 10:58:41 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Oh fuckin' A dude, check out the facility I just found out about, only ~40 minutes from my house...
http://kmprecisionrifletraining.com
I'm already thinking about a Savage 12LRP in .260 or 6.5 Creed. I wanted a rifle like that (or F-class rig, etc) anyway...just had nowhere in FL to shoot something like that.
If I get into competing and want to do more than the basic rifle matches, all I need is a reason to pick up an XDm 5.25 Competition, or maybe a Glock 34. Hell, I might even sell my 1911 if I were to get one of those. 7/21/2013 1:30:12 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
For those of you in the Triad, I went to Wesmar (Range) yesterday; no more than five (5) rounds in a magazine for a rifle, and no less than 1 second between shots (any gun). 7/21/2013 9:06:31 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
I shot a gun called The Judge yesterday. Was a little worried about the kick shooting [mini] shotgun shells out of a pistol but it wasn't too bad. 7/21/2013 1:48:02 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah my dad has a Judge.
I've always wondered what's better...45 LC or .410.
I think .410 buck and ball would be pretty gnarly. 7/21/2013 2:56:55 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ I would think the 410 as well, but Wikipedia says they're not that effective for whatever that's worth. 7/21/2013 5:08:02 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
if i've gotta carry a wheel gun, i'll take a .357 every time 7/21/2013 5:17:49 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
agreed.
but i'm with you; i don't care for revolvers at all. 7/21/2013 5:31:30 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
I love my 686. On the topic of the Judge, my dad has one as well but he got it for a snake gun since he has a ranch out in Texas where you need that type of thing. I wouldn't use it for much else. 7/21/2013 5:57:24 PM |
Brandon1 All American 1630 Posts user info edit post |
I'm helping a family member of mine who works for a case company here in Raleigh. They are setting up a booth at the Dixie show showing off their Pelican rifle cases, other brands of similar cases, and Pelican Coolers. He wants to know if he needs to have inventory with pick and pluck foam, or would the customers be willing to place an order for a custom cut foam case (or possibly both).
Basically, would you want to buy a case right then and there or would you be willing to put an order in and get it shipped to you? I think he wants to know whether or not to bring inventory. 7/21/2013 6:29:43 PM |
gtherman All American 628 Posts user info edit post |
^beat me to it. It is nearly perfect if you need something easy to carry for snakes. Throw it in a holster and go about whatever job you need to do.... 7/21/2013 6:29:52 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
folks use the "snake gun" as an excuse to buy another gun, which is fine, but it's not necessary. a rat shot shell tossed in a .45 ACP of your choice is pretty much perfect for snakes. not to mention that there are very few scenarios i can think of where i would come across a snake and i couldn't just walk away from it. this is coming from a dude who uses "shoot it!" as his go-to solution for almost all wildlife issues. 7/21/2013 8:11:15 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6kKhlX8vU&feature=youtube_gdata_player 7/22/2013 12:26:44 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
^^when I used to bush hog around some of the ponds on the farm, the cottonmouths would try to climb up on the tractor with you. A revolver loaded with rat shot was our go-to solution for that problem. 7/22/2013 12:55:49 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i don't buy that 7/22/2013 1:34:38 PM |
gtherman All American 628 Posts user info edit post |
groundhogs and coyotes were always our biggest problems on the farm.. 7/22/2013 5:58:49 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
So a water snake climbs hot ass steel?
Interesting 7/22/2013 7:26:12 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if i've gotta carry a wheel gun, i'll take a .357 every time " |
Quote : | "but i'm with you; i don't care for revolvers at all. " |
What?....No love for 9mm revolvers? I carry both on the regular. Ruger 9mm SP101 and Speed Six 9mm
[Edited on July 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM. Reason : duh]7/22/2013 9:57:54 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
nope. i don't like the low capacity. 7/22/2013 10:01:07 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
and crappy triggers unless you fire SA, which is a pain in the ass. 7/22/2013 10:06:40 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So a water snake climbs hot ass steel? " |
there's nothing hot about the deck of a bush hog or the three-point hitch connection, which is usually where they climbed up onto as the bush hog as it was backed up to the edge of the pond.7/22/2013 10:54:38 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a big fan of the reliability of revolvers, but I'm just not much of a 9mm fan in general 7/23/2013 12:59:03 AM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
I consolidated calibers 2 years ago. .38 and .357mag were harder to find and usually twice the money of 9mm. The down side is that the moon clips are difficult to find. It took 6 months to find them for the Speed Six. 7/23/2013 7:13:24 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i like to diversify my cartridges so i can shoot whatever cheap brass or bullets i stumble across 7/23/2013 7:33:25 AM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
I have no plans of reloading so I am pretty much at the mercy of what I can find. Before Sandy, that was 9mm. 7/23/2013 8:16:38 AM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Blemished PSA BCGs are stock right now for $99
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/featured/5-56mm-full-auto-profile-bolt-carrier-group-cosmetic-blem-ready-for-duty.html
They are Carpenter 158 but it doesn't appear they are HP/MPI according to their comment here:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_301/238699_Blem_BCG_Spec_Question.html 7/23/2013 6:59:01 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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HB 937 Passed. Starting OCT 1st CC in restaurants will be legal. Locked vehicles on campus will be legal. Hunting with suppressors will be legal. 7/23/2013 8:49:24 PM |