Yeah. I scanned the long thread a few months ago. Glad someone made a summary.

5/21/2008 4:10:57 PM

Quote :

"how much did you prop bet? oh and ftr it's very very doable. "

5 people gave me 5:1 on 100. its definitely doable, but if you lose your first $1 you're fucked

5/21/2008 4:50:12 PM

no one pm'd me

oddsmaker had the favored american idol kid at +350 when all other bookies had him at -200. I never do these kinds of bets, but naturally when I heard, I had to take it.

5/21/2008 5:24:57 PM

wtf is oddsmaker. Couldn't you bet on both sites for a definite win?

5/21/2008 5:31:54 PM

http://www.oddsmaker.com

You could have bet the 200 max on cook at OM's +350 and bet archuleta @ 2:1 on another site for a definite 400 yeah. Dunno why they were that insane this morning, I was scrambling trying to get as much cash onto that site as possible before the odds changed.

5/21/2008 6:18:06 PM

for the new page: bodog debit card, anyone with experiences?

5/21/2008 9:15:00 PM

^anything i've read about it just have the community spazzing out if you even talk about new payment processors such as that.

BOOM, 40 bucks for 140 on a near sure thing

Now I have the start to my sportsbook roll

[Edited on May 21, 2008 at 10:02 PM. Reason : .]

5/21/2008 9:40:49 PM

"For the stats thread, how about top ten most viewed threads by forum?"

for non-archived posts...

Lounge
Post your poker stories here.... 155998

5/22/2008 2:17:21 PM

Haha, Euros can't beat me heads up. It's almost comical, I've won about 6 heads up SNGs in a row in OH8 and NLHE all against euros.

5/24/2008 5:06:57 PM

Haha. I thought you meant Erios at first. Yeah, from what Rally was telling me a while back, they suck big time.

5/24/2008 5:47:38 PM

Not sure if link will work for everyone, but here's some results from the past 2 weeks for me that I posted in my blog on CR.

http://www.cardrunners.com/members/index.php?option=com_mamblog&Itemid=29&task=show&action=view&id=18539&Itemid=29

5/24/2008 6:14:55 PM

Lookin' good.

5/24/2008 6:49:24 PM

^^ Real solid man, you should be able to handle the 100NL games just fine playing ~17/14 or whatever - there are tons of TAGs at that level grinding out 3 bb/100 for a nice hourly rate

5/24/2008 7:15:33 PM

This was kinda fun.

PokerStars Game #17684624887: Tournament #89284255, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/05/25 - 15:41:14 (ET)
Table '89284255 545' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: CHR1SA5HT0N (3183 in chips)
Seat 2: Scrumples (5460 in chips)
Seat 3: yoahole (4951 in chips)
Seat 4: LEMMEX12 (4030 in chips)
Seat 5: Bonk1983 (11000 in chips)
Seat 6: bandido0010 (12190 in chips)
Seat 7: dribrahimi (2365 in chips)
Seat 8: °°burger 14T (7910 in chips)
Seat 9: karnikl (8245 in chips)
CHR1SA5HT0N: posts the ante 50
Scrumples: posts the ante 50
yoahole: posts the ante 50
LEMMEX12: posts the ante 50
Bonk1983: posts the ante 50
bandido0010: posts the ante 50
dribrahimi: posts the ante 50
°°burger 14T: posts the ante 50
karnikl: posts the ante 50
CHR1SA5HT0N: posts small blind 200
Scrumples: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scrumples [9h 9s]
yoahole: calls 400
LEMMEX12: calls 400
Bonk1983: folds
bandido0010: folds
dribrahimi: raises 1915 to 2315 and is all-in
°°burger 14T: folds
karnikl: folds
CHR1SA5HT0N: folds
Scrumples: calls 1915
yoahole: folds
LEMMEX12: calls 1915
*** FLOP *** [9c 2c Tc]
Scrumples: checks
LEMMEX12: checks
*** TURN *** [9c 2c Tc] [8c]
Scrumples: checks
LEMMEX12: checks
*** RIVER *** [9c 2c Tc 8c] [9d]
Scrumples: bets 1665
LEMMEX12: calls 1665 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Scrumples: shows [9h 9s] (four of a kind, Nines)
LEMMEX12: shows [As 8s] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
Scrumples collected 3330 from side pot
dribrahimi: shows [Qh Qs] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
Scrumples collected 7995 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11325 Main pot 7995. Side pot 3330. | Rake 0
Board [9c 2c Tc 8c 9d]
Seat 1: CHR1SA5HT0N (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Scrumples (big blind) showed [9h 9s] and won (11325) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 3: yoahole folded before Flop
Seat 4: LEMMEX12 showed [As 8s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 5: Bonk1983 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bandido0010 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: dribrahimi showed [Qh Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 8: °°burger 14T folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: karnikl (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Edited on May 25, 2008 at 3:46 PM. Reason : and why you would call that shit without a flush is beyond me.]

5/25/2008 3:43:49 PM

Why you would call half of your stack with 99 is beyond me. IMO, you had two options. Either fold (which was probably the right move) or push to isolate the all-in in front of you so LEMMEX wouldn't call.

I mean think about it, what are the initial pushers range of pushing hands there?

2 overcards..... very likely
overpair (which he had)
underpair (perhaps)
A-x (hopefully the x is less than a 9)
bluff (probably not)

I mean, in almost every feasable situation in my mind, you were calling with at best a coinflip. Would you have played 22 the same way? Honestly it might as well be the same hand in this situation.

5/25/2008 4:15:47 PM

I probably would have pushed.

[Edited on May 25, 2008 at 4:19 PM. Reason : ]

5/25/2008 4:18:03 PM

Let me try to explain why I just called that hand -

I'd been at that table long enough to see what kind of raises these people were doing and I was able to see a bunch of cards because nearly everything got past the river on calls and so forth. The dude with Qs was especially making some bad raises on rags or cards he probably shouldn't be playing out of position.

From just a few hands prior to that one, nobody was calling anything, so I figured his bet was sufficient to call without putting all my chips at risk for whatever reason and not have any real threats in front of me. I did get nervous when the guy in front of me made the call and especially nervous when all those clubs came out. But, alas, he was just checking it; moreso because he didn't have shit instead of trying to get me in a trap.

Yes, it was a "coinflip" but I got lucky enough and I'm still learning some stuff. Freerolls are not going to deter me from experimentation and I think this was probably one of the rare instances where I was playing into the situation, albeit making mistakes, instead of sticking strictly by the book.

Quote :

"Would you have played 22 the same way?"

Nah. I usually only do that shit with 8s or better.

[Edited on May 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM. Reason : k]

5/25/2008 4:20:45 PM

Nope, finished 107.

BACK TO THE POKER EDUCATION MATERIALS

5/25/2008 4:31:38 PM

I can barely remember the last time I got quads and I sure as fuck can't remember the last time they paid off this well.

PokerStars Game #17687918684: Tournament #88691559, $500+$30 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (50/100) - 2008/05/25 - 17:57:12 (ET)
Table '88691559 43' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 55lucky55 (8850 in chips)
Seat 2: Basebalno1 (10075 in chips)
Seat 3: X1010X (13350 in chips)
Seat 4: Iteopepe88 (11100 in chips)
Seat 5: MickBt23 (8525 in chips)
Seat 6: david0603 (12125 in chips)
Seat 7: gambler9996 (9850 in chips)
Seat 8: WalterSob (9850 in chips)
Seat 9: PQuest99 (6200 in chips)
Iteopepe88: posts small blind 50
MickBt23: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [2s 2h]
david0603: calls 100
gambler9996: folds
WalterSob: folds
PQuest99: raises 200 to 300
55lucky55: calls 300
Basebalno1: folds
X1010X: calls 300
Iteopepe88: folds
MickBt23: folds
david0603: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [2d 6s 2c]
david0603: checks
PQuest99: checks
55lucky55: checks
X1010X: bets 1100
david0603: calls 1100
PQuest99: folds
55lucky55: calls 1100
*** TURN *** [2d 6s 2c] [Jd]
david0603: checks
55lucky55: bets 1100
X1010X: raises 10850 to 11950 and is all-in
david0603: calls 10725 and is all-in
55lucky55: calls 6350 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1225) returned to X1010X
*** RIVER *** [2d 6s 2c Jd] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
david0603: shows [2s 2h] (four of a kind, Deuces)
X1010X: shows [4d 3d] (a pair of Deuces)
david0603 collected 6550 from side pot
55lucky55: shows [6h 6d] (a full house, Sixes full of Deuces)
david0603 collected 27000 from main pot
david0603 said, "woooooooooooooooo"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 33550 Main pot 27000. Side pot 6550. | Rake 0
Board [2d 6s 2c Jd 8s]
Seat 1: 55lucky55 showed [6h 6d] and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Deuces
Seat 2: Basebalno1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: X1010X (button) showed [4d 3d] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 4: Iteopepe88 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: MickBt23 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: david0603 showed [2s 2h] and won (33550) with four of a kind, Deuces
Seat 7: gambler9996 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: WalterSob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: PQuest99 folded on the Flop

5/25/2008 6:02:36 PM

Awesome. So how many people are left in that tourney ur in?

5/25/2008 6:04:13 PM

1000, just started

5/25/2008 6:06:52 PM

Do anything wrong here?

I got this hand after betting big with Ks the previous hand (with a good return, fortunately), so I figured I'd change it up abit and slow play...

PokerStars Game #17689814401: Tournament #89642062, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2008/05/25 - 19:29:57 (ET)
Table '89642062 219' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: sporters (53946 in chips)
Seat 2: Hawk125 (31810 in chips)
Seat 3: hshoe100 (36720 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: leonel_rp (65356 in chips)
Seat 5: stroalff (22190 in chips)
Seat 6: xav2804 (24956 in chips)
Seat 7: Scrumples (32951 in chips)
Seat 8: Mallage (16788 in chips)
Seat 9: Je Malle (7570 in chips)
sporters: posts the ante 75
Hawk125: posts the ante 75
hshoe100: posts the ante 75
leonel_rp: posts the ante 75
stroalff: posts the ante 75
xav2804: posts the ante 75
Scrumples: posts the ante 75
Mallage: posts the ante 75
Je Malle: posts the ante 75
xav2804: posts small blind 400
Scrumples: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scrumples [Qc Qd]
Mallage: calls 800
Je Malle: calls 800
sporters: calls 800
Hawk125: calls 800
hshoe100: folds
leonel_rp: raises 2400 to 3200
stroalff: folds
xav2804: folds
Scrumples: calls 2400
Mallage: folds
Je Malle: folds
sporters: calls 2400
Hawk125: calls 2400
*** FLOP *** [3h 2s 7c]
Scrumples: checks
sporters: bets 14400
Hawk125: folds
leonel_rp: folds
Scrumples: raises 15276 to 29676 and is all-in
sporters: calls 15276
*** TURN *** [3h 2s 7c] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [3h 2s 7c Jc] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Scrumples: shows [Qc Qd] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
sporters: shows [8c 7s] (two pair, Sevens and Deuces)
Scrumples collected 74827 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 74827 | Rake 0
Board [3h 2s 7c Jc 2h]
Seat 1: sporters showed [8c 7s] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Deuces
Seat 2: Hawk125 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: hshoe100 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: leonel_rp folded on the Flop
Seat 5: stroalff (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: xav2804 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Scrumples (big blind) showed [Qc Qd] and won (74827) with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 8: Mallage folded before Flop
Seat 9: Je Malle folded before Flop

[Edited on May 25, 2008 at 7:33 PM. Reason : r]

5/25/2008 7:33:25 PM

Kind of risky with so many people in, but I like the play.

5/25/2008 7:42:19 PM

Just keeping my head above water now with substantial preflop raises on A-suiters.

5/25/2008 8:02:18 PM

Quote :

"PokerStars Game #17690638263: Tournament #89647407, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/05/25 - 20:13:13 (ET) Table '89647407 9' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: starks13 (2770 in chips) Seat 2: lomomma (2400 in chips) Seat 3: sandmandxp (2050 in chips) Seat 4: WalrusHere (2460 in chips) Seat 5: bcscb (4330 in chips) Seat 7: arniea (2025 in chips) Seat 8: dasboat777 (2040 in chips) Seat 9: 1_ALPHATIER (4410 in chips) 1_ALPHATIER: posts small blind 75 starks13: posts big blind 150 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to bcscb [Ah Ac] lomomma: raises 150 to 300 sandmandxp: folds WalrusHere: folds bcscb: raises 450 to 750 arniea: folds dasboat777: folds 1_ALPHATIER: folds starks13: folds lomomma: calls 450 *** FLOP *** [8h 8d Qs] lomomma: bets 300 bcscb: raises 900 to 1200 lomomma: calls 900 *** TURN *** [8h 8d Qs] [4d] lomomma: checks bcscb: bets 750 lomomma: calls 450 and is all-in Uncalled bet (300) returned to bcscb *** RIVER *** [8h 8d Qs 4d] [Jd] *** SHOW DOWN *** lomomma: shows [9c Tc] (a straight, Eight to Queen) bcscb: shows [Ah Ac] (two pair, Aces and Eights) lomomma collected 5025 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5025 | Rake 0 Board [8h 8d Qs 4d Jd] Seat 1: starks13 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: lomomma showed [9c Tc] and won (5025) with a straight, Eight to Queen Seat 3: sandmandxp folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: WalrusHere folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: bcscb showed [Ah Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights Seat 7: arniea folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: dasboat777 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: 1_ALPHATIER (small blind) folded before Flop "

i guess i should have pushed PF? I knew by the way he was playing he had some sort of a hand like that, but I don't see how I could have gotten him off it?

whoever told me to play these hundred grand sats can diaf
I'm just gonna start donkin' it up since the spurs game is on in 10m

[Edited on May 25, 2008 at 8:21 PM. Reason : .]

5/25/2008 8:15:51 PM

goddamnit i have two people in front of me with huge stacks

i can't play shit; i have nothing to protect my hands with. this sucks.

5/25/2008 8:22:51 PM

I wish he just would have flopped the 10 so I wouldn't have had to endure the entire thing.

PokerStars Game #17690814841: Tournament #88691559, $500+$30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (400/800) - 2008/05/25 - 20:22:30 (ET)
Table '88691559 43' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: FU_15 (12010 in chips)
Seat 3: Silent Ocean (26490 in chips)
Seat 4: Iteopepe88 (47874 in chips)
Seat 5: MickBt23 (20495 in chips)
Seat 6: david0603 (21315 in chips)
Seat 7: Matias River (15182 in chips)
Seat 8: WalterSob (11795 in chips)
Seat 9: diegosnow (43708 in chips)
FU_15: posts the ante 50
Silent Ocean: posts the ante 50
Iteopepe88: posts the ante 50
MickBt23: posts the ante 50
david0603: posts the ante 50
Matias River: posts the ante 50
WalterSob: posts the ante 50
diegosnow: posts the ante 50
Matias River: posts small blind 400
WalterSob: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Jc Ad]
diegosnow: folds
FU_15: folds
Silent Ocean: folds
Iteopepe88: folds
MickBt23: folds
david0603: raises 1200 to 2000
Matias River: raises 13132 to 15132 and is all-in
WalterSob: folds
dvash9 is connected
david0603: calls 13132
*** FLOP *** [8c Qd 3h]
*** TURN *** [8c Qd 3h] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [8c Qd 3h 3d] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Matias River: shows [Jd Td] (a flush, Queen high)
david0603: shows [Jc Ad] (a pair of Threes)
Matias River collected 31464 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 31464 | Rake 0
Board [8c Qd 3h 3d 2d]
Seat 2: FU_15 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Silent Ocean folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Iteopepe88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MickBt23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: david0603 (button) showed [Jc Ad] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: Matias River (small blind) showed [Jd Td] and won (31464) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 8: WalterSob (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: diegosnow folded before Flop (didn't bet)

5/25/2008 8:34:54 PM

And I'm out. Runner runner flush got me again.

5/25/2008 8:41:11 PM

gotta endure 61 more players.

5/25/2008 8:43:20 PM

fyi, turner is still playing the Sunday warmup and they are down to 10 people

5/25/2008 8:44:13 PM

need some advice here from yalls experience -

101,831 chipstack blinds at 2500/5000 a.500

156 players...need to get to 99 or better.

can i just ride it out?

5/25/2008 8:52:54 PM

no

5/25/2008 8:53:29 PM

might as well try with the shit hands theyre dealing me.

[Edited on May 25, 2008 at 8:55 PM. Reason : k]

5/25/2008 8:54:00 PM

suck it up

5/25/2008 8:56:00 PM

MADE IT.

Now back to playing like a dolt.

[Edited on May 25, 2008 at 9:46 PM. Reason : f]

5/25/2008 9:41:14 PM

What is payout for 99?

5/25/2008 9:49:58 PM

ahahahah not a goddamned thing. It's advance to round 2 I guess.

Yeah, I'm not wasting this much time on a freeroll anymore. Been playing forever. Still in with 66 players...

5/25/2008 9:52:00 PM

You've got to be shitting me. Why don't you just go all in now then?

5/25/2008 9:53:06 PM

I dunno. Might as well see how far I can get I guess. Bragging rights to say you survived the onslaught of 12000 idiots or something...

5/25/2008 9:54:20 PM

Finished 23.

5/25/2008 10:15:21 PM

Also got 90 Leader Board Points. Looks like I have a lot of games to play to ever catch up with that PearlJammed kid...

5/25/2008 10:59:37 PM

Quote :

"PokerStars Game #17714171032: Tournament #89644779, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/05/26 - 19:30:33 (ET) Table '89644779 117' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: Timox072 (4515 in chips) Seat 2: bcscb (3040 in chips) Seat 3: goodgoing (2870 in chips) is sitting out Seat 4: tonydebroy (3525 in chips) Seat 5: egret1 (4255 in chips) Seat 6: Le_Blem1 (5010 in chips) Seat 7: DOM_en_8er (5670 in chips) Seat 8: PrblyBlunted (2485 in chips) Seat 9: kootjes (3295 in chips) Timox072: posts small blind 25 bcscb: posts big blind 50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to bcscb [Tc Td] goodgoing: folds tonydebroy: folds egret1: calls 50 Le_Blem1: folds DOM_en_8er: folds PrblyBlunted: folds kootjes: folds Timox072: calls 25 bcscb: raises 100 to 150 egret1: calls 100 Timox072: calls 100 *** FLOP *** [7h Th 4c] Timox072: bets 165 bcscb: raises 735 to 900 egret1: calls 900 Timox072: folds *** TURN *** [7h Th 4c] [Qd] bcscb: bets 1990 and is all-in egret1: calls 1990 *** RIVER *** [7h Th 4c Qd] [5h] *** SHOW DOWN *** bcscb: shows [Tc Td] (three of a kind, Tens) egret1: shows [9h Ah] (a flush, Ace high) egret1 collected 6395 from pot Gregolator is connected *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 6395 | Rake 0 Board [7h Th 4c Qd 5h] Seat 1: Timox072 (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 2: bcscb (big blind) showed [Tc Td] and lost with three of a kind, Tens Seat 3: goodgoing folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: tonydebroy folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: egret1 showed [9h Ah] and won (6395) with a flush, Ace high Seat 6: Le_Blem1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: DOM_en_8er folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: PrblyBlunted folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: kootjes (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) "

what did i do wrong

5/26/2008 7:33:52 PM

sometimes in poker people make bad decisions and get lucky

5/26/2008 7:51:35 PM

Yeah you were doing fine until the 5 of hearts came, then you blew it.

5/26/2008 10:02:10 PM

what she said.

5/26/2008 10:02:53 PM

I am assuming both of you are being sarcastic considering he put the guy all in on the turn.

5/27/2008 12:43:41 AM

just making sure I didn't boof it PF or underbet/raise the flop. I figured it was a bad beat and obv. don't care, but every time I post a hand here I second guess my ability to play the game

5/27/2008 1:15:25 AM

He only had 7 outs going into the river, so he was 15% give or take. You made the right play, you just ran into a moron who didn't realize he was only 15% to win and he was just focused on the fact that he had the nut flush draw and "OMG I HAVE THE NUT FLUSH DRAW, MUST NOT FOLD EVER". Its amazing how many people can't lay down a draw on the turn no matter how much you bet. People like that watch way too much TV poker.

5/27/2008 2:33:38 AM

^^ I generally like a bigger raise out of the blinds with TT - but your 3x raise isn't necessarily a mistake, just a stylistic difference.

It wouldn't have made any difference in this hand, nor would you want it to.

5/27/2008 11:17:19 AM

Yeah, I'd make it 4X if there already a limper.

5/27/2008 11:31:57 AM