rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ I pretty much agree. Especially since Betemit was still only 25 and was signed for the near future for basically nothing. Baez is making 4 mil/yr by himself. I just hope that Betemit and Marte aren't making the Braves regret trading them in about 2 years.
[Edited on July 31, 2006 at 10:01 AM. Reason : 22] 7/31/2006 10:01:17 AM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Betemit will. He WILL be a star. 7/31/2006 10:02:45 AM |
wpchrisc Starting Lineup 60 Posts user info edit post |
making that trade makes me think that the braves seriously believe they can make the playoffs this year. i think they should have gotten 2 stud minor leaguers for betemit. 7/31/2006 11:25:16 AM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^ahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 7/31/2006 11:56:05 AM |
wpchrisc Starting Lineup 60 Posts user info edit post |
why else would they have traded one of their best prospects for a major league reliever and not gotten solid minor league players? 7/31/2006 12:18:50 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
bc they have decided they don't want a team anymore, the mets have beat them into giving up their failed dream known as the braves 7/31/2006 12:29:49 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
betemit is not a prospect 7/31/2006 1:53:53 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
sosa out, rich scalamandre in 7/31/2006 6:03:02 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
good 7/31/2006 6:08:26 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
via yahoo:
Quote : | "Update: The Red Sox offered Jon Lester, Coco Crisp and Craig Hansen for Jones shortly before the trading deadline, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.
Recommendation: The Braves listened to the offer but declined. Still, the fact the Braves even paused to consider the deal may be a sign Jones could be moved this offseason for the right price." |
makes you wonder8/2/2006 3:13:24 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Man, I don't know if I would've declined that trade... I love andruw jones, but our team with those three would've been better.
I would miss jones though 8/2/2006 3:15:25 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
aha
Quote : | "abonorio All American 6911 Posts user info edit post
I will no longer be a braves fan if andruw jones gets traded.
7/31/2006 3:28:11 PM Ernie All American 18157 Posts user info edit post
if we can get coco, lester, and another young pitcher, i'm for it
andruw will always be solid, but he'll never repeat last year
our farm system has no good young pitching prospects (devine?)
we have much more offense in the pipe
we better pull the trigger if we get the chance
7/31/2006 3:29:36 PM" |
8/2/2006 3:18:35 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
i know, but I wouldn't have been half as mad if that were the trade. 8/2/2006 3:19:13 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
at least we beat the pirates! 8/2/2006 3:20:16 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
there's reason to throw some confetti. 8/2/2006 3:22:58 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Don't worry I'm sure we'll blow tonight's game.
What is truly sad is how shitty the Braves have been playing at home. Their "hot" streak to begin the 2nd half was basically all on the road and then they come home and go 1-5. LaRoche is part of that because he has hit 17 of his 22 HRs on the road (or something to that nature). I know Turner is not a hitter's park, but that is Coors Field type deviation. 8/2/2006 4:07:02 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
they're dropping like flies...
as much as I hate seeing LaRoche in the lineup usually, I hate to see him leave when he's hot 8/2/2006 8:56:54 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
we are so fucked 8/2/2006 9:08:09 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Top 8TH B:0 S:0 O:1 Edgar Renteria out on a sacrifice fly to right fielder Jose Bautista. Unknown (0) scores." |
wtf is that?8/2/2006 9:13:13 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
willy aybar scored 8/2/2006 9:16:59 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Braves lose today to the lowly Pirates 3-2. Chacon made his first start for them and got out of some jams. LaRoche didn't play. 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but a sweep was needed. Atleast Hudson made it to 6 innings too. 8/3/2006 4:06:17 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Huge series this weekend Vs the Reds. 8/4/2006 1:44:19 PM |
bkhardee All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
can someone please explain this to me? Im a little confused
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2539544
does that mean we released him or what?
[Edited on August 4, 2006 at 3:58 PM. Reason : j] 8/4/2006 3:57:53 PM |
Ernìe Veteran 188 Posts user info edit post |
did you read the article?
it pretty much explains everything
he might get traded, he probably won't, but there are reportedly several teams interested 8/4/2006 4:44:59 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder which team got the claim.... 8/4/2006 6:04:11 PM |
bkhardee All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah i did but i thought you only went thru waivers if you were released.. I was just curious as to what the process is behind going thru waivers 8/4/2006 10:13:12 PM |
Ernìe Veteran 188 Posts user info edit post |
http://mlb4u.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Allpages
that should explain things
also, we fucking lost again
[Edited on August 4, 2006 at 10:57 PM. Reason : ] 8/4/2006 10:53:37 PM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ On ESPN Radio they were saying it was Houston who claimed AJ off waivers. 8/5/2006 3:44:14 PM |
Ernìe Veteran 188 Posts user info edit post |
jeff francoeur is officially pissing me off 8/5/2006 4:21:22 PM |
chargercrazy All American 2695 Posts user info edit post |
Another game, another L 8/5/2006 4:26:32 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on August 5, 2006 at 7:35 PM. Reason : .]
8/5/2006 7:35:12 PM |
Ernìe Veteran 188 Posts user info edit post |
bravos come back for the win
wickman rules
3-3 roadtrip
i feel a shitty homestand coming up 8/6/2006 4:20:41 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Andruw Jones was claimed off waivers by several unknown teams, but the 48-hour period for the Braves to make a trade passed at noon on Saturday, so the slugger will remain in center field in Atlanta." |
8/6/2006 6:33:43 PM |
he hate me Veteran 458 Posts user info edit post |
i would have hated to lose andrew i hope we resign his ass 8/6/2006 9:16:07 PM |
Ernìe Veteran 188 Posts user info edit post |
well he's due 13.5m next year i think
and his agent is scott boras who wasn't happy when andruw signed with the braves for less than market value last time
i think it will be extremely difficult to hang on to him unless he dumps boras 8/6/2006 9:19:32 PM |
jdwalton New Recruit 1 Posts user info edit post |
Andruw won't be that valuable in a few years, his shoulder's been acting up the past two years and with no surgery to date, it should be in the near future. Besides, with the loaded farm system, and they do have great arms, the Braves will be back up next year.(not saying they won't win the wild card this year) 8/6/2006 11:29:07 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
The NL East has some of the better young position talent in the majors.
Wright, Reyes, McCann, Utley, Howard, Francoeur (though he NEEDS to develop at least SOME plate discipline or he'll be the worst 30/100 guy in history).. 8/6/2006 11:32:39 PM |
Ernìe Veteran 188 Posts user info edit post |
don't forget uggla and cabrera in florida
and zimmerman and broadway in washington
there's a bunch of good young pitching too
[Edited on August 7, 2006 at 12:02 AM. Reason : ] 8/7/2006 12:02:46 AM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
also, you look at Ryan Langerhans, who is as Cox says it, "a center fielder playing left field." Defensively, we really wouldn't miss Andruw Jones even though I love his non-chalaunt "this shit is so easy" attitude about a non-routine flyball that he inevitably makes look easy. And offensively, besides the power numbers, I'd rather have a hit for average center fielder. A guy who bats .310 with 25 homers instead of .266 with 54 homers. 8/7/2006 9:10:21 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
I hope the Braves can keep Andruw, but I am not sure spending 14-18 mil/yr will be worth it (which is what I'm sure Boras will try to get assuming Andruw is productive in 2007). He is still relatively young, is still great in the field obviously, and is a pure power hitter which the Braves don't have otherwise.
Chipper is no longer a 30 HR guy and Frenchy may one day be a pure power hitter, but not yet and not with his horrible pitch selection. If it comes down to signing Andruw or a couple of solid pitchers, then I say go after the pitchers, but don't just let him walk and then pretend we will fill his shoes magically. He is the best CF in baseball and you can't just stick Langerhans there and expect reasonable production.
[Edited on August 7, 2006 at 12:01 PM. Reason : g] 8/7/2006 11:57:26 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
francoeur was also a centerfielder in the minors and brandon jones is gonna be ready for a corner spot in atlanta in 2-3 years
but i agree with abonorio
the power should be in the corners, the average should be in center
jones will walk after next season if he isn't traded before then
either way i'll miss his glove, but his bat can easily be replaced 8/8/2006 12:17:44 AM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
The Braves aren't going to do a damn thing until they get sold from Time Warner. Is there any more word on Arthur Blank buying them? Last I heard he and a group of investors were thinking about taking them off of TWs hands. 8/8/2006 11:44:29 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
thanks for the newsflash 8/8/2006 12:08:03 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
I've changed my opinion quite considerably about Andruw. I think we should trade him. He's not going to be any more productive than he is right now (so he's on the downward slope). Cox has an uncanny talent to be able to trade players when he's maximized their usefulness. For the amount of money and talent we could get for Jones, I think we need to trade. And right now. We can't afford to keep hemmoraging games. 8/8/2006 12:14:21 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
I really wish the they would just grow some balls and sign some bigtime free agents, they missed out on EVERY SINGLE ONE over the past 5 years. Unless you count Tim Hudson, which I don't. 8/8/2006 12:30:07 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldn't either since he wasn't a free agent signing 8/8/2006 12:41:35 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahahahahahaha 8/8/2006 12:47:26 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Braves aren't going to do a damn thing until they get sold from Time Warner. Is there any more word on Arthur Blank buying them? Last I heard he and a group of investors were thinking about taking them off of TWs hands." |
Arthur Blank will not be buying the Braves. Liberty Media out of Colorado is the most likely candidate, but there is no new news on that front. Anything is better than Time Warner, but we really need to get away from the corporate ownership thing. Blank has said he would like to buy the team but Time Warner wants to do the deal with Liberty due to some tax advantages.
As for the Hudson thing, he was acquired in a trade, but JS did sign him to an extension, which is looking like a huge mistake now. Man how did Zito, Hudson, and Mulder all get old and shitty so fast?8/8/2006 12:58:52 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Zito is fine. He has a 3.50 ERA in the AL. That comes down to ~3.00 in the NL, which is where he'll be playing next year in Queens. That is in the Top 3 for NL pitchers.
Oh, and to answer your question: Rick Peterson. He left after 2003. Following that season ALL 3 pitchers ERAs went up by over a full point.
[Edited on August 8, 2006 at 1:02 PM. Reason : x] 8/8/2006 1:01:01 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
But that A's trifecta is nowhere near what it used to be... 8/8/2006 1:02:30 PM |