IF HE CONCEDES, LACROSSE PLAYERS WILL BE SET FREE

5/29/2006 8:02:24 PM

If Nifong is full of shit, then the jury must acquit.

5/29/2006 8:07:52 PM

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"A handwritten narrative report by Sgt. J.C. Shelton that is attached to the motion says the accuser first reported being raped after officers had decided to involuntary commit her. Officers initially encountered her in a supermarket parking lot and had to use ammonia capsules to rouse her from a parked car, according to court documents. "

Sounds like she got caught in a lie trying to get out of a ticket.

5/30/2006 1:03:14 AM

link

5/30/2006 8:47:25 AM

I posted the link on the last page with that stuff on it

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 1:09 PM. Reason : last]

5/30/2006 1:09:01 PM

maybe old....but so is the case

http://wilmingtonjournal.blackpressusa.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=69882&sID=4

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"Thanks to unrelenting attacks on her character and credibility by defense attorneys, the alleged victim in the Duke lacrosse rape case is now the target of hate by many who believe the Black woman is a “false accuser” of three indicted white players. Looming doubts about the evidence in the minds of some of the public have generated hateful portrayals of the alleged victim in media reports, and particularly on the Internet. Several websites have revealed her name (something media organizations voluntarily do not do in order to protect rape victims from further harm), address and other personal information, including her limited criminal record, in an effort to embarrass the accomplished North Carolina Central University student, US Navy veteran and mother of two. Some websites have labeled her a “sexual predator” who is lying just so she can later sue “the rich kids” of the Duke lacrosse team for a false attack. Ironically, it is a community-based website that was launched Mother’s Day in support of the victim, http://www.ourheartsworld.com, that has attracted a fair share of hate e-mail directed at the 27-year-old woman after only one week. Sixty percent of the messages sent to OurHeartsWorld.com - set up by the NC NAACP, Triangle Urban League and the Black Press, - are indeed inspiring and supportive. “Bless you, my beloved sister,” wrote “Soulj” from Brooklyn, NY. “In times of tribulation, turn to your God and to our Ancestors. Feel the souls of Black folk as we embrace you and your family, dear sister. You are loved, supported and fearless.” Other messages, coming from Christian supporters and ministers, have encouraged her to stay strong in her faith. “God’s Will will prevail,” wrote “Pat.” “You'll get through this. My family and I will continue to pray, because one voice is a whisper, [but] many [are] thunder.” The uplifting messages have come from all across the country, and indeed, the world. “I wish you strength and encouragement in the coming days,” wrote a supporter named Brad Polk, all the way from Beijing, China. “The white press will not break you. You have the legacy of black people supporting you.” But there are those closer to home that believe the alleged victim is telling anything but the truth. “She is a worthless, lying car thief out to destroy lives. She was not raped,” charged an e-mail from a couple who called themselves “Mike and Sue.” “She will have her ugly butt in jail soon enough for making these false allegations. You guys need to find a better cause, because this lying wh--- isn't it.” Another e-mailer named “Whitney” wrote in part, “Is making up a bunch of lies to get attention and bling all just cool in your ''world?'' And some of the messages have gone far beyond just disbelief of the alleged victim’s claims, and instead indicted all Black people. “You damn [n-words] make me want to puke. This wh--- was duly f----- by her pimp and sent to work high as a kite,” wrote an e-mailer named “Nick.” “The cops came because she was passed-out in a car whose driver wanted her out, and lo and behold--I waz raped! Only a honkie looking for re-election would fall for that,” Nick wrote, referring to the election of District Attorney Mike Nifong. “This whole thing STINKS so bad that even Je$$ie Jackson and Sharpton (Twanna Bradley) are keeping low key,” wrote Nick, referencing the Tawana Brawley case in New York Rev. Sharpton was involved in many years ago. Nick concluded, his angry, racist missive, “Please join your ‘sisters’ IN AFRICA!!!! And take your ‘brothers’ with you.” None of those hate messages have been, or will be posted, the website’s sponsors say, but they are being filed. Even some of the supportive messages are edited to delete any direct attacks on Duke University, the lacrosse team or the indicted players. The overwhelming number to OurHeartsWorld.com, however, has been supportive, not only of the “Sister Survivor,” but the effort itself. “I want to thank you for the beautiful website you have created for Our Sister,” wrote a 65-year-old white grandmother named “Margaret.” “I believe in her. I cannot imagine what she is going through.” “Thank you again for caring about this woman. It had appeared that no one did and that, in itself, broke my heart.” Meanwhile defense attorneys have filed motions in Durham Superior Court this week, asking that Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong, the prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse case, turn over any toxicology reports that were generated from the alleged victim’s rape examination the morning after she says she was dragged into a bathroom by three players, beaten, kicked, strangled and sexually assaulted on the night of March 13. As required by law, Nifong reportedly turned over his complete case file of evidence last week - consisting of 1278 documents, two VHS tapes and a disc of photographs – to defense attorneys for indicted lacrosse player Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, NJ. At the next evidentiary hearing scheduled for June 19, Nifong is expected to turn over evidence to defense attorneys for Colin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, NY; and Dave Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md. But after reviewing the material, Seligmann’s attorneys complained that the tox reports, which they had every reason to believe were done, were missing. Nifong has said if there were tox reports, they were included, even though defense motions indicate that a nurse involved in the rape kit exam checked off on a form that none had been done. Toxicology tests are considered standard when rape victims are brought in to determine whether a so-called “date rape” drug was used. When Durham police first encountered the alleged victim in a supermarket parking lot, they said she was “passed out drunk” in a car, though no alcohol could be detected on her. She was then taken to a detoxification center, and then to Duke Medical Center’s emergency room, where she was examined. D.A. Nifong seemed to indicate to Newsweek Magazine in its April 18 edition that the victim’s “…impaired state was not necessarily voluntary.” “…[I] f I had a witness who saw her right before this and she was not intoxicated, and then I had a witness who said that she was given a drink at the party and after taking a few sips of that drink acted in a particular way, that could be evidence of something other than intoxication, or at least other than voluntary intoxication?” Nifong asked Newsweek. Kim Roberts, the second dancer hired to perform with the alleged victim at the wild off-campus lacrosse party where the assault reportedly occurred, has said that both women were offered mixed drinks right before they performed. Roberts didn’t drink hers, but the victim did after spilling her own drink. That’s when Roberts noticed her demeanor deteriorate into a stupor for the rest of the evening. Whether Nifong is holding any evidence back, though he’s legally not supposed to, is unclear. If there is evidence, as it was believed, that the victim was indeed drugged, many observers believe it would be a clear first step towards fleshing out what some speculate so far to be a weak case. Unless the prosecutor has an eyewitness to the alleged assault in the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. during the time that 40 or more lacrosse players partied, media pundits, despite Nifong’s ability to secure three grand jury indictments, have proclaimed this case dead and buried, especially with no conclusive DNA matches. Supporters, and the family of the alleged victim, however, say they believe the D.A. has the evidence to go forward with a trial. Nifong told the court last week that he wanted to try all three indicted suspects together."

5/30/2006 3:12:49 PM

^words.

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 4:21 PM. Reason : someone please summarize]

5/30/2006 4:20:45 PM

lol, I just read every third line and established i already knew all of that.

5/30/2006 4:26:42 PM

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"I for one am sick of the attitude that if someone doesnt think they are clearly innocent they we are dumb, or we want the stripper to get over for whatever reason."

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"1. explain why 2. use logic 3. ????? 4. get respect"

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"Are you serious? They are under indictment, and i believe that most people that are indicted are guilty, or at the minimum there is some evidence of guilt as to blur the question."

if that's all you got, deal with the attitude

5/31/2006 1:25:08 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/more/06/05/duke.lacrosse.ap/index.html

Duke LaCrosse is back ... with conditions.

6/5/2006 6:27:19 PM

Lacrosse has one capital letter. (LaCrosse is the name of a Catholic diocese in Wisconsin)

6/5/2006 6:39:33 PM

Yay! Lacrosse is back! Hi five!

6/5/2006 6:56:16 PM

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"Lacrosse has one capital letter. (LaCrosse is the name of a Catholic diocese in Wisconsin)"

That in the title of the thread has been bugging the shit out of me

6/5/2006 6:57:40 PM

^You guys are waaaaaay too uptight.

6/6/2006 7:23:12 AM

wow, I never even noticed that!

6/6/2006 7:26:14 AM

lax is an airport

6/6/2006 7:31:28 AM

^You guys are waaaaaay too uptight.

6/6/2006 10:22:00 AM

so how would you interpret an

ex-lax player???

6/7/2006 2:18:55 PM

Always "on the go"

6/7/2006 2:35:10 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/9341424/detail.html

6/8/2006 1:16:18 PM

any judge that approves that request -> http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=413590

6/8/2006 1:25:01 PM

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"Filing: Second dancer called allegations a 'crock' The second dancer in the Duke lacrosse case told police early on that allegations of rape were a "crock" and that she was with the accuser the entire evening except for a period of less than five minutes. The second dancer, Kim Roberts, made that statement when she was first contacted by Durham police one week after the party where the first escort service dancer said she was gang raped by three men. Roberts' statements and notes of the detectives in the case were made public today in a court filing by lawyers for one of the defendants, Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Falls, N.J. Seligmann's lawyers said police omitted important facts contradicting the accuser's story when they obtained an order to photograph and take DNA samples from the players, including Roberts' statements to police. Investigator Benjamin Himan first contacted Roberts on March 20, one week after the lacrosse party that ended in the early hours of March 14. "She heard that (the accuser) was sexually assaulted, which she stated is a 'crock' and she stated that she was with her the whole time until she left," according to Himan's notes. "The only time she was alone was when she would not leave and that time period was less than five minutes." Seligmann's lawyers said there were major discrepancies in the reports of the doctors and nurses who examined the accuser at Duke Medical Center. Prosecutors and police have said that the accuser was hit, kicked and strangled while she was sexually assaulted anally, vaginally and orally. The accuser told the nurse "that she was not choked; that no condoms, fingers or foreign objects were used during the sexual assault," the lawyers wrote in a sworn statement. The nurse noted that the accuser's arms, legs, head, neck, nose, throat, mouth, chest, breasts and abdomen were all normal, the court filing said. The lawyers filed the accuser's medical records under seal with the court. Two other players have been charged with first degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping in the case: David Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md., and Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y."

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/448437.html

6/8/2006 9:35:50 PM

i don't see at this point if all if this in indeed true that the DA could continue to pursue any type of case against those duke boys

[Edited on June 9, 2006 at 12:03 AM. Reason : ...]

6/9/2006 12:03:20 AM

^ Thats just it. Its not about convicting them of rape. Its about pleasing the idiot black people who refuse to accept that the stripper made the shit up. Its now just about convicting a few rich white boys for no damn reason.

6/9/2006 12:08:17 AM

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""She heard that (the accuser) was sexually assaulted, which she stated is a 'crock' and she stated that she was with her the whole time until she left," according to Himan's notes. "The only time she was alone was when she would not leave and that time period was less than five minutes.""

6/9/2006 8:03:57 AM

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"The accuser told the nurse "that she was not choked; that no condoms, fingers or foreign objects were used during the sexual assault,""

when will nifong release the name of the guy who matched the rape dna?

nm. the matching dna wasn't from a lacrosse player.

6/9/2006 10:11:03 AM

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"^ Thats just it. Its not about convicting them of rape. Its about pleasing the idiot black people who refuse to accept that the stripper made the shit up. Its now just about convicting a few rich white boys for no damn reason."

THANK YOU.....i'm glad someone else sees this the way I do. Stupid blk people.

6/9/2006 12:20:48 PM

N&O FTW today.

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/448847.html

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"ttorneys for lacrosse player Reade Seligmann asked a judge to throw out the photo lineup in which the woman identified Seligmann and two other players as her assailants. The lawyers, Kirk Osborn of Chapel Hill and Ernest Conners of Greenville, said police withheld evidence undercutting the allegations in presenting their case to the judge. The accuser reported being hit, kicked and strangled, Himan wrote. He said medical records and interviews showed symptoms and injuries consistent with being raped vaginally and anally. On Thursday, Seligmann's lawyers submitted a sworn statement describing parts of the medical examination and filed 23 pages of medical records under seal. The lawyers said they filed the records privately out of caution that they not violate the accuser's privacy rights, but they also asked that a judge make the records public. The lawyers argued that the records Nifong gave defense lawyers undercut Himan's claims: * The accuser told the examining nurse she was not choked. * The only physical trauma found by the nurse, who was in training, was the scratch and cut. * The accuser told two doctors that she was assaulted vaginally and mentioned no other assault. She denied being hit. * The nurse's pelvic examination found swelling in the vagina but no other injuries. * The nurse made no conclusions or opinions about rape or sexual assault in her report. Nurses generally do not make such conclusions, said Debbie Flowers, an assistant supervisor at UNC Hospitals. Seligmann's attorneys argued that the woman's activities before the party explain the swelling. The woman told police that during the weekend before she had an appointment with a couple at a hotel where she used a sex toy on herself. Her driver, Jarriel Johnson of Raleigh, gave police a handwritten sworn statement on April 6 that detailed his time with her. Two days before the party, Johnson said he drove the woman to an hourlong appointment at the Holiday Inn Express in Wakefield. At 11 p.m., Johnson said, he drove her to Platinum, a strip club in Hillsborough. The woman twice asked him to stay another hour, he wrote. At 4:30 a.m., Johnson said, he drove her to an hourlong job at the Millennium Hotel near Duke University. The next night, Johnson said, he drove her to Raleigh "to find this guy she met." They checked into a hotel near Lane Street, bought Chinese food and waited for the man to call. Johnson said he left at midnight. When he came back the next morning, Johnson said, he waited in his car while the accuser performed for an older man in the hotel room. Later that day, Johnson said, he was taking the accuser to her parents' house in Durham when she asked him to stop so she could go to the bathroom. "She got out of the car and started walking down Creedmoor Rd.," Johnson wrote. "I pulled my car over and got out to chase her down. She told me to leave her alone." Johnson said he asked several times before she climbed back in the car. The two reached Johnson's home about 4:30 p.m. Johnson said he wasn't able to drive that evening; the accuser told Johnson that another friend, Brian Taylor of Durham, would drive her to a bachelor party in Durham, the lacrosse party."

6/9/2006 12:43:34 PM

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"Later that day, Johnson said, he was taking the accuser to her parents' house in Durham when she asked him to stop so she could go to the bathroom. "She got out of the car and started walking down Creedmoor Rd.," Johnson wrote. "I pulled my car over and got out to chase her down. She told me to leave her alone.""

uhhhhh what? split personality like whoa

granted it's printed in the paper and seems kind of vague/missing holes...but that just sounds weird.

[Edited on June 9, 2006 at 12:48 PM. Reason : ]

6/9/2006 12:47:37 PM

Yeah, I had to read that twice myself. Johnson said...

6/9/2006 1:04:54 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/9355459/detail.html

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"DURHAM, N.C. -- A Durham County commissioner is weighing whether to challenge District Attorney Mike Nifong through a write-in campaign as critics attack the incumbent's prosecution of three Duke University men's lacrosse players accused of rape. "I am looking at it," Commissioner Lewis Cheek said, "and ... it means I'm seriously thinking about it. I need to look at it from every angle and think about what is the right thing to do." Cheek, 55, said he had been recruited to challenge Nifong and that he would decide within about two weeks whether to go forward in the race. Cheek, a trial lawyer in private practice, was a member of the Durham City Council for two terms and was mayor pro tem for one term. He was elected to the board of commissioners in 2004. Nifong was appointed as district attorney last year. He defeated two challengers in the Democratic primary last month and faces no challengers in November's general election. Cheek said he is not looking solely at Nifong's management of the Duke lacrosse case as he considers whether to seek office. "It goes beyond one case," Cheek said. "It's how you handle the responsibilities of the office and do you appropriately handle the duties." He did say he believed Nifong had contributed to what has become a contentious environment in Durham. "Yes, I am disgruntled about what has happened," Cheek said. "My feeling in the way that things need to be approached is that there needs to be a neutral point of view until all of the information is gathered." In the Duke case, the accuser told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for about 30 minutes during a lacrosse team party that began March 13. Nifong spoke out early in the case, announcing before charges were filed that he believed an assault had occurred at the house and that team members were being uncooperative with the investigation. He has remained largely silent about the case in recent weeks. The allegations led a grand jury to indict Dave Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md.; Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., on charges of rape, sexual offense and kidnapping. Defense attorneys insist the men are innocent, and the men are each free on $400,000 bail. A trial isn't expected to begin before spring 2007."

6/12/2006 4:09:54 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/9417203/detail.html

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"Police Report: Duke Accuser First Said Five Attackers, Four Dancers At Party POSTED: 12:41 pm EDT June 23, 2006 UPDATED: 2:48 pm EDT June 23, 2006 DURHAM, N.C. -- A police officer who interviewed a woman who said she was raped by three Duke University men's lacrosse players described her as nervous and said her story changed several times, according to a police report released by a defense attorney Friday."

6/23/2006 3:31:57 PM

yep read that in the N&O this morning

also read in newsweek where when Kim Roberts said that "it was a crock" she was raped at all...that the accuser actually accused Ms Roberts as assisting the lax players with the rape/assault

6/23/2006 3:33:40 PM

Story made it to CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/06/23/duke.rape.ap/index.html

6/23/2006 8:17:29 PM

"oh shit"

6/23/2006 8:24:14 PM

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"Joseph Cheshire, who represents charged player David Evans, released the report after a confrontation with an investigator Thursday. When Cheshire told reporters the accuser said she was sexually assaulted by five men, Linwood Wilson from the Durham County District Attorney's Office questioned him in front of the reporters. Wilson asked Cheshire to supply the paperwork to support the claim. Friday morning, Cheshire did. He also sent a letter to the district attorney's office with a police report attached. Cheshire said Friday he plans to review more of the discovery file over the weekend and couldn't comment further on its contents."

Cheshire FTW

6/23/2006 8:38:22 PM

Really Nifong is just going to try and drag it on as long as he can until everyone forgets about it, then he is going to drop the charges.

6/23/2006 9:43:24 PM

What an unbelievable spectacle.

6/23/2006 11:43:33 PM

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"the accuser said she was sexually assaulted by five men"

so how long until they accuse 2 more players??

6/24/2006 12:18:38 AM

i hope nifong gets hit by a train

6/24/2006 12:19:03 AM

Train, bus, it doesn't matter.

6/24/2006 2:44:09 AM

so someone that is following this closer than me...whats the deal, like it always seemed like she was lying but i havent been following it

does it look less or more like shes lying now(even though she definitely is)

6/24/2006 3:14:34 AM

yes pretty much...the defense is realeasing as much damaging evidence against the prosecutors to the media outlets. All this stuff supposedly was left out of the evidence that was presented to teh defense.

6/24/2006 3:45:52 AM

The only thing I have not seen that I would like to know about was the toxicology report. If she was drugged then that really changes things and could explain her erradic behavior. It still does not automatically mean she was raped, but could explain a lot of her actions.

No one has released what kind of drugs/how much alcohol was in her system.

6/24/2006 11:12:55 AM

Don't you think if the prosecution had that kind of damaging evidence it would have been released by now?

6/24/2006 11:38:09 AM

^^It's been reported that there isn't a toxicology report.

6/24/2006 11:46:43 AM

lock this thread

kill the nigger

6/24/2006 11:51:52 AM

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"^^It's been reported that there isn't a toxicology report."

FIRE NIFONG.

6/24/2006 1:56:13 PM

^an ambitious goal, but is it worth moving to Durham ?

6/24/2006 4:00:58 PM

The one interesting thing that I see about an event like this is that it is a unifier of people with any level of reason no matter where they side on the political spectrum. Sadly it takes the serious disruption of three men's lives in order to accomplish it.

6/24/2006 7:14:45 PM