dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
The thread titles alone on IC are gold...
Quote : | " Anybody think the players should boycott this decision????" |
Quote : | " Good Luck Finding a Coach, Baddour & Thorp " |
Quote : | "FIRE THORP NOW!!!" |
Quote : | "UNC Football - RIP " |
Quote : | "Is Baddour retiring tomorrow in protest to Butch firing? " |
Quote : | " anybody have dirt on Thorp or his office?" |
Quote : | "UNC Adminstration just gave itself the "Death Penalty" " |
Quote : | "Wear Black to JMU game" |
Quote : | "WHY WHY WHY WHY (GET BUTCH BACK PLEEEEEASSSSSSSEEE) " |
Quote : | "PROTEST!!!!!!!!!!!!! " |
Quote : | " Holden's revenge.... " |
And posted in the PROTEST thread:
Quote : | " WE CAN'T LET THAT LITTLE DORK THORPE GET AWAY WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!" |
Quote : | " IT'S BULLCRAP AND YOU KNOW IT!!!! THORP IS JUST A SPINELESS SWINE!!!!!!!" |
[Edited on July 27, 2011 at 11:10 PM. Reason : ]7/27/2011 11:09:43 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
that's the type of post i've been waiting for. hilarious. 7/27/2011 11:21:12 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
those people are losing their minds 7/27/2011 11:22:17 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
make sure to check this thread out too http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1414&t=7709919&p=1
thats the board all the people who think they arent IC crazies congregate. it gets pretty juicy at the end when they start eating each other 7/27/2011 11:24:01 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "apexcat Starter 433 posts this site Posted: Today 9:12 PM Re: Timing of BD Firing Spells More Trouble Let's cut through all the crap. Davis was used as a scape goat. The powers that be are scared crapless that a big penaltly is coming.
They got together and decided, let's fire Davis and clean house. then, when they answer the NCAA they can say, all that were responsibly are gone so .... please Mr. NCAA don't hurt us too bad, we have been good boys since we found out about the allegations.
Final, why isn't teflon Badman gone? He was in control when all this happened. If Davis is responsible, why isn't he.
There are 50,00 ambulance chasers out there licking their chops tonight howling to file a law suit for Davis. In fact, I bet 25,000, has already called him. " |
I love that gem, I hope he does sue them so the judge laughs him out of court. But he can keep using the I didn't know defense7/27/2011 11:29:58 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
walmart nation has spoken7/27/2011 11:33:51 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
maybe i'm conditioned, but that powederblue/white format is irritating
but this 11:27 post of a CHeel "all-american" was pretty good:
Quote : | "While this decision was long-coming, why isn't it a reasonable proposition to fire the man who oversaw the most serious and endemic athletics violations in the modern history of UNC, if not ever?
1) He hired an agent's agent on staff. Blake was being paid significant money by an agent. 2) He oversaw a program that allowed a runner access to the football team. 3) He oversaw a program where multiple players took impermissible benefits. Whether ridiculous rules or not, those are the rules that the players and coaches agreed to live by. 4) He oversaw a program that contained massive academic fraud. Tutors doing homework for student-athletes. Athletes not complying with clearly stated standards for citation and plagiarism. 5) Again, other relatively minor crap like a dozen players with hundreds of parking tickets and dozens of license plates among them.
In the span of less than two years!
What standards do we have if this goes unchecked?
Did the reputation of UNLV not suffer during the Tarkanian days? Was FSU not known as Free Shoes U? Have most of us not taken some delight in the State does of Valvano and Shackleford?
The idea that his was a witch hunt, or completely shocking and totally unnecessary, is beyond me. I don't understand why it didn't happen before, but with the scope of violations becoming more and more clear, it's hard to contemplate that this would be allowed to continue indefinitely." |
7/27/2011 11:34:09 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
wait, weren't they just arguing days ago that they didn't do anything wrong, that they are infallible, etc.? 7/27/2011 11:36:52 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
no that everybody else is cheating, and you're not elite if you don't cheat 7/27/2011 11:46:13 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Remember the year UNC lost to James Madison in football?
Or the year they beat Binghamton by one in basketball?
Or the back to back years they went 1-10 in football?
Or when Duke won 41-0 against UNC in football?
I sure as fuck do. This is right up there.
Eat a crooked ass limp dick you fags hahahahahhaahahhaahahha.
They will be back to caring about women's soccer in no time, homo alert at UNC-Carrboro 7/27/2011 11:58:40 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "...I'd hold a presser 8am tomorrow to announce that I was a gay man and was being persecuted by a homophobic BOT. Thorp would have no choice but to back me then. " |
from the "if i were butch davis" thread7/28/2011 12:26:49 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Topic:
Quote : | "28-23
Is this worth over 8 million dollars? I think if the record was more like 41-11 he would have had a chance to return. An average record + NCAA investigation = Time for a change." |
First reply:
Quote : | "Write off the first 2 years (like we did with Mack when he went 1-11) and add the 3 games we would have won last year but for MA's tweets and we have a winning percentage well in excess of the 41-11 you mention above, but don;t let the facts get in the way of your hating." |
Quote : | "Write off the first 2 years (like we did with Mack when he went 1-11) and add the 3 games we would have won last year but for MA's tweets" |
Quote : | " but don;t let the facts get in the way of your hating." |
Quote : | " but don;t let the facts get in the way of your hating." |
Quote : | " but don;t let the facts get in the way of your hating." |
7/28/2011 1:18:46 AM |
tommy wiseau All American 2624 Posts user info edit post |
BATarHeel05 is the most delusional faggot of all time
CHillinHeel wrote: While this decision was long-coming, why isn't it a reasonable proposition to fire the man who oversaw the most serious and endemic athletics violations in the modern history of UNC, if not ever?
1) He hired an agent's agent on staff. Blake was being paid significant money by an agent. 2) He oversaw a program that allowed a runner access to the football team. 3) He oversaw a program where multiple players took impermissible benefits. Whether ridiculous rules or not, those are the rules that the players and coaches agreed to live by. 4) He oversaw a program that contained massive academic fraud. Tutors doing homework for student-athletes. Athletes not complying with clearly stated standards for citation and plagiarism. 5) Again, other relatively minor crap like a dozen players with hundreds of parking tickets and dozens of license plates among them.
In the span of less than two years!
What standards do we have if this goes unchecked?
Did the reputation of UNLV not suffer during the Tarkanian days? Was FSU not known as Free Shoes U? Have most of us not taken some delight in the State does of Valvano and Shackleford?
The idea that his was a witch hunt, or completely shocking and totally unnecessary, is beyond me. I don't understand why it didn't happen before, but with the scope of violations becoming more and more clear, it's hard to contemplate that this would be allowed to continue indefinitely.
BATarHeel05:
1.) NOBODY knew he was doing that. If they did, why would they support that? It brought NO benefit to UNC, and, obviously, significant risk/damage. Blake was fully vetted by the NCAA and UNC before he was hired. Even NCAA rules say that a head coach can't be held responsible for an assistant that is actively engaged in trying to keep his inappropriate actions secret.
2.) This "runner" was a former player, and was gaining access with another former player. Letterman are, and should be, welcomed back. He is only a "runner" in so much as the NCAA decided to retroactively label him as that. Further, much of this contact was during the summer, when NCAA rules prevent the coaches from having significant contact with the athletes and limit the amount of participation hours.
3.) Some legitimately took impermissible benefits. This is really Butch Davis's fault? Really? This wasn't like USC where they were getting gifts and cash in the locker room. They were getting impermissible benefits during the summer, on breaks, outside of the program. When uncovered, Butch took the appropriate actions - he suspended the players, based not on guilt, but on suspicion. What more do you want? You really believe that a manager should be held directly responsible for the illegal actions of his reports? If you go out and get a DUI, your boss should be fired?
4.) The Head Football Coach is not in charge of the Academic Support Program. In fact, the University intentionally builds a "wall" between these two to ensure that the ASP is legit and not influenced by coaches who might be enticed to make sure their players are "taken care of" academically. It can't be any clearer. Butch Davis was not responsible for hiring tutors, for assigning tutors, for overseeing tutors. Butch Davis had NOTHING to do with the athlete's academics. He was the football coach!
5.) First, be honest ONE player had dozens of license plates. Beyond that, again, why is the football coach in charge of parking enforcement in your mind? If there was a serious issue with parking, and he was made aware of it and did nothing to address it, that would be one thing. But that wasn't the situation. College kids parked illegally. OH NO!!! Seriously, that's the end of the story. LOTS of college kids get LOTS of parking tickets. Heck, parking tickets seems like it's a million dollar industry at UNC. The mere fact that anyone is even trying to add this to a list of accusations is really just more evidence for the cowardice and dishonesty of the position. 7/28/2011 1:27:51 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
really hope that person is trolling
if not, I would love to talk to him in person 7/28/2011 1:35:59 AM |
tommy wiseau All American 2624 Posts user info edit post |
he's not. he follows it up with more bs here
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1414&t=7709919&p=21 7/28/2011 1:38:44 AM |
tommy wiseau All American 2624 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "RE: Butch Davis: Big-time problems without big-time winnings We stripped ourselves of our 2010 National Championship. You don't think we could have been better than Auburn or Oregon?
Regardless, if you can't see that this program was getting much better then you are either blind or know nothing about football." |
7/28/2011 1:54:28 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
getting some fags rolling on Twitter hahaha 7/28/2011 1:59:22 AM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.petitiononline.com/BDUNC/petition.html http://www.petitiononline.com/07272011/petition.html
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 2:04 AM. Reason : ^] 7/28/2011 2:01:11 AM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
oh man, IC is just friggin gold right now. As someone mentioned you don't even need to read the contents of the threads, the thread titles are enough and now the entire first page are BD threads. Also lots of fratricide going on as well, too rich. 7/28/2011 3:33:37 AM |
RyanB Veteran 323 Posts user info edit post |
[Wow, just wow.
I think that **** was the right man for the job.
It's now time to see how the team stays together this year and if UNC could go get Urban or if one of the Asst. Coaches steps up as an interim guy.
Time will tell, but recruiting is gonna suck for the next few months until a permanent replacement is found.]
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 7:41 AM. Reason : quote] 7/28/2011 7:40:13 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
BOYCOTT DA SCHOOOOOOOO 7/28/2011 8:12:18 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
someone go name drop **** **** over there as someone who can make connections
link his linkedin page
profit 7/28/2011 8:45:02 AM |
dalecooter All American 524 Posts user info edit post |
did anyone hear Mark Paschal and Greg Barnes this am on 99.9? For some reason they are still backing Butch and Paschal had the audacity to proclaim unx as some beacon of academic light even with the academic probe of the investigation and the honor court hilarity. Apparently Butch really hammered it into his players to go to class, do the work, and represent the university always. Sadly a few individuals decided to not listen to the ole ball coach and ruined unx's reputation. 7/28/2011 8:47:42 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
The "Support Butch Davis" FB page is pure gold as well.
Quote : | "What you have done in the firing of Coach Davis has set this university back 100 years. Since YOU are in charge of the Education of our students and athletes, including the tutor(s) involved in the academic scandal, WE DEMAND YOUR RESIGNATION!" |
Quote : | "And your not even talking about the players from Miami he put into the nfl....E james, portis, macgahee, reed, Shockey....etc. As a relative of Butch, I can say he is a stand up guy who didn't deserve this treatment!" | Those guys would have gone pro even if they played at Duke.7/28/2011 9:19:06 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The thread titles alone on IC are gold..." |
Sounds like the site's admins are going to have their hands full banning users. Will anyone be left after the purge?7/28/2011 9:42:19 AM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
thread title
Quote : | "There must have been confirmation of McAdoo plagiarism" |
post
Quote : | "Looking at the wording of Thorp's statement, as well as how surprised Butch sounded in his, I can think of only one halfway plausible reason that Butch got fired this close to the season. Thorp and Baddour must have gotten confirmation--either from an internal probe or from the NCAA--that McAdoo's paper was a steaming pile of plagiarism. It's more likely the confirmation was on our end, since the NCAA has been letting us handle the academic side of the investigation so far." |
7/28/2011 9:43:10 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
BWAHAHAHAHAHA 7/28/2011 9:44:55 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, this is just too funny. What a great day to be a Pack fan.
IC Thread Title: Is Baddour retiring tomorrow in protest to Butch firing?
Quote : | "I would respect the hell out of Baddor if this is true." |
Quote : | "I would have an incredible amount of respect for him if he did." |
Quote : | "Dickie would immediately gain my respect back if he did!!" |
Quote : | "I posted this back on the protest trend a wile back. I'm hear from a lot that he is. If he does I'll take back most of the mean things I said about him." |
They go on and on. Yeah, I'm sure that if Baddour steps down it's totally on his own accord and it's because he's so upset about the firing of Davis. This is so absurd that it's hilarious but equally frustrating and confounding.7/28/2011 9:48:24 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
If Thorp wants to keep his job he HAS to fire dick. Or at least make him resign. 7/28/2011 9:50:58 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
http://twitpic.com/5x5u6k
lol
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 10:21 AM. Reason : http://twitpic.com/5x5u6k] 7/28/2011 9:53:18 AM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
wait, they needed official confirmation of plagiarism?
IF THE SHOE FITS 7/28/2011 9:58:59 AM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
7/28/2011 10:19:45 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but don;t let the facts get in the way of your hating." |
priceless7/28/2011 10:22:58 AM |
dalecooter All American 524 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Marvin Austin, If you still have those beans, please spill them now..!" |
yes Marvin the beans spill them
I can't believe the number of numbskulls that are completely turning on the school as a whole, but I guess when you are just a fan and not an alumni it's easier not to care about how silly and sleazy the academic side of the school comes off as.7/28/2011 11:02:24 AM |
Wolfpackman All American 1882 Posts user info edit post |
Thorpe looks like the lovechild of Davis Love III and Corey Feldman 7/28/2011 11:18:11 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
I can't decide who I support in this. By default, I'm going with Thorpe since IC wants him dead. I hope he reigns for 100 years! 7/28/2011 11:30:28 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " HIRE BUNTING!!!!! " |
Pretty sure it was a joke, but still...
and a few more thread titles:
HAHAHAHAH...Urban Meyer could have any job in the nation and he's going to take the UNC job?
Quote : | " Let's just move to Division 3 athletics with no athletic scholarships " |
And some Hole's letter to Baddour:
Quote : | " Dear Mr. Baddour,
I would like to go on the record as one of your Tar Heels fans that are very upset with the way the firing of Coach Davis was handled and the implications that will follow.
I have been a lifetime Carolina fan. I follow all sports, but have a passion for football. As you know that is difficult at times in a basketball crazy school. For the first time, regardless of the NCAA investigation, I felt Carolina was on the verge of turning and football was going to be great.
When Butch Davis was hired, I felt like the administration was serious about football. Then the investigation. The entire time you all stood behind the coach. If there had been any thought of firing him, the decision should had been at the end of the football season. I am simply shocked, angered, and perplexed that you all decided to fire Coach Davis a few short weeks before football camp. This is alarming to say the least.
There better be a great reason to do this or I am afraid the financial responsibility of the university will be great, not only from the stand point of the salary of the coach, but the Blue Zone support, Rams Club support, as well as fan support at the games.
I feel the way this was handled was wrong. In one decision, you have turned the football program on top of it's head and placed the players and fans in a very awkward position. Not only that, you and the Board of Trustees appear weak. You all seem to have caved to the media and the ABC crowd. I take it you know what ABC stands for. I also feel you threw Coach Davis under the bus.
Last year I had the honor of having Coach Davis and his family on my flight to Paris when he was vacationing. We spoke about the upcoming season before the investigation broke out. His enthusiasm and love for North Carolina was clear. I walked away feeling like this man was sincere and honest. If he is to be faulted, it is for being too trusting. But what you all have done is unforgiving to not only him, but the entire university.
Where do we go from here at Carolina? Here we are faced with another uncertain year with no leader. All of this has left a sour taste in my mouth. How you and the board handles the next few days and weeks will depend on my support of not only Carolina football, but Carolina sports in general.
At this moment, I would like to wash my hands of the entire athletic department. The last 24 hours and the way you all treated Coach Davis and the football program was tacky, unprofessional, and careless. You caved to the pressure. You all speak of the Carolina Way. If this is indeed the Carolina Way, I will take a pass and place my support elsewhere.
Thank you for your time," |
LOL...
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM. Reason : ]7/28/2011 11:44:35 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Knowing UNC, there probably will be a lot of empty seats next year. Not necessarily because of a protest of the university though, more because they're terrible football fans. 7/28/2011 11:56:02 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm therabidrev, and I'm a Tar Heel *I am not ashamed to be a Tar Heel, and I won't be ashamed tomorrow.
*I'm not quite sure how to feel or who to blame after the PC. My impression was that Baddour came across as a guy who loves Carolina and is disappointed in the whole process, and Thorp is an academigeek who seems out of touch with all but the classroom. That's not unusual in higher ed, trust me.
*Life will go on.
*I'm taking the extra Carolina magnets off - off of my washing machine - and putting them all over my Jeep. Now is not the time to back down. I'll wear Carolina gear everywhere, every day, because that's how therev rolls (and when your body is shaped like mine, it's easy to roll).
*It is curious why Butch wasn't fired "for cause" and $2.7 million saved. Perhaps that's not the Carolina Way, but none of this mess has been the Carolina Way all along.
*The interim will come from inside. Just a gentle reminder: the last time Carolina faced a scandal, Carolina hired a little known assistant coach who was asked to run a clean program. His name was Dean E. Smith. The rest is history. I pray that such lightning strikes twice.
*I'm therabidrev, and I'm a Tar Heel. And if you're not, I suggest that you Silence Those Feeble Utterances. And don't let the screen door hit you on the way out." |
"I'm....and, I'm a Tar Heel" is their rally cry.7/28/2011 12:28:50 PM |
ncsu7wolf Veteran 190 Posts user info edit post |
Baddour is OUT.
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8276082 7/28/2011 12:34:27 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
^ are you fucking high? 7/28/2011 12:35:35 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^hahahahahah 7/28/2011 12:36:36 PM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
guys did you hear UNC is under investigation?
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 12:37 PM. Reason : i wonder what it is about] 7/28/2011 12:37:30 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
my favorite comment so far is from someone who commented on one of BobbyDigital's FB posts
Quote : | "It's interesting watching the intersection of the 6% of UNC fans that care about 'The Carolina Way' get mad at the 4% of UNC fans that care about football." |
7/28/2011 12:40:29 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^the other 90% are saying "when's basketball season start?" 7/28/2011 12:44:20 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
wow. just wow.
Quote : | "Feel free to cite any source that the NCAA has investigated John Blake for any NCAA violations. Feel free to name any player that Blake has recruited that will say under oath that Blake offered them anything illegal. If you would, please list all the NCAA infractions that Blake has been found guilty of or even accused by the NCAA of. Who are these "friends" who work in NCAA football and why haven't they offered the proff to nail John Blake and you are the biggest idiot in the world if Spurrier is your best source." |
John Blake, pure as the driven snow, still.
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 1:14 PM. Reason : ]7/28/2011 1:14:00 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
^^, ^^^, LOL, so true. 7/28/2011 3:34:50 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
From comment section of Dan Wiederer article:
Quote : | "Butch Davis was the best football coach in UNC's history, there is no chance we'll find another coach of his caliber. He was not linked to Blake's illegal activities and accepted full responsibility for returning the program to respectability. If UNC had done the right thing and supported him during this process it's hard to imagine how successful we would have become over the next decade. I'd like to call for an investigation of the UNC Board of Trustees. If they have a misstep in their past, they should step down immediately. That is the standard they held Butch Davis to." |
First line is priceless7/28/2011 4:49:30 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
28-23, the best there ever was! 7/28/2011 5:19:02 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If chancellor thorpe steps down and baddour already announced that he stepped down..could we rehire Butch? I know it may sound crazy but im just curious. " |
7/28/2011 5:46:22 PM |