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thegoodlife3
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they’re gonna call that every time

3/2/2024 5:40:02 PM

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Remember when flopping was gonna be a point of emphasis? Lol

3/2/2024 5:42:45 PM

rwoody
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My bad I turned the game on

3/2/2024 5:44:05 PM

thegoodlife3
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he fully extended his arm

3/2/2024 5:44:20 PM

Money_Jones
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I might have to turn this off. At least we had one good half

3/2/2024 5:45:17 PM

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https://x.com/crazietalker/status/1764057855211061293?s=46&t=lHWRQcd88WhEW7wh4gQSIw

Love to see Ryan get rewarded for this horseshit.

^^ yeah it was an offensive foul. Defender sold it with the head snap bullshit. But they’ll call that every time. Ryan is the flopper I was referring to (a few mins behind on the game, myself)

[Edited on March 2, 2024 at 5:46 PM. Reason : A]

3/2/2024 5:45:32 PM

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Bacot has rodmans head on his calf, weird

3/2/2024 5:48:49 PM

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We just don’t have enough ballers. Horne and Taylor had a great first half. But we’ve got too many one dimensional players out there at any given time. And it becomes glaringly obvious during a 10 minute scoring drought (which have been too frequent this season)

3/2/2024 5:49:01 PM

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lol foul on Middlebrooks when the defender tried to drag him down coming around the screen.

3/2/2024 5:55:16 PM

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Wtf??? Did they call moving screen? No replay. I have no idea how that was a foul on us

3/2/2024 5:55:22 PM

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I’m totally not surprised at the amount of contact UNC is getting away with and we aren’t.

3/2/2024 5:56:20 PM

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lol Alexander just called DT “the second best..mayyybbbee the greatest…ACC player of all time”

3/2/2024 5:59:34 PM

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Yeah, i was trying on to figure out who he thought number 1 was if it wasn’t DT??

[Edited on March 2, 2024 at 6:00 PM. Reason : $$$]

3/2/2024 6:00:28 PM

thegoodlife3
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I’m guessing he’d have Ralph Sampson as his #1

3/2/2024 6:00:47 PM

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Yeah I assume Sampson. And I guess that was a shoutout to him being a UVA dude. But I didn’t think the DT thing was even really up for debate.

3/2/2024 6:02:29 PM

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We commit some dumbass fouls

3/2/2024 6:03:01 PM

thegoodlife3
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everything is up for debate, especially when you consider it’s been 50 years since DT won the national championship

[Edited on March 2, 2024 at 6:04 PM. Reason : .]

3/2/2024 6:03:55 PM

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lol at Cormac Ryan shaking his head after fouling out. He’s committed like 9 fouls and 2 obvious flops today. But still lasted 39 minutes. Fuck him

3/2/2024 6:05:17 PM

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lol no foul!

3/2/2024 6:06:07 PM

Money_Jones
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Typical

3/2/2024 6:07:44 PM

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Fuck UNC. Fuck refs. Fuck everything about that second half.

3/2/2024 6:08:11 PM

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Oh was there a game today?

3/2/2024 6:25:27 PM

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It was super fun for like 22 minutes

3/2/2024 6:33:14 PM

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Feels like the same problem as always vs UNC. We just don’t have the talent. They’re better than us top to bottom.

They have great guard play. Always have a good PG. We go on long scoring droughts, in part, because we have no real point guard to distribute. Horne is good. But he’s not a PG. Joiner played the role well last year. Joiner could score but was also good at running the point. We’re like 1-2 players away from being a pretty good team. But how do you get over that hump? Better high school recruiting seems like the answer and KK hasn’t excelled there. No matter who the coach is next year, the talent level has to improve. This year it’s Horne and then like 7 role players. Jayden Taylor has been really good lately and Mo is giving us really good minutes on both ends of the floor. Those are good pieces to have next year but we need a lot around them

3/2/2024 7:01:52 PM

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We will almost never be to be able to match the talent of unc. Their name is always going to attract more. But we flat outplayed them the first half (and got quite a few lucky bounces). The second half the refs absolutely stepped in, in UNCs favor, which definitely contributed, but wasn’t the deciding factor. We couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn second half

3/2/2024 7:15:21 PM

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^ agreed.

3/2/2024 7:48:11 PM

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Agreed that Cormac Ryan is a douche. Also agree that we lack talent to compete. O Connel is so bad at scoring that no one has to defend him. Middlebrooks and Diara are no threat to score either other than a putback off a rebound. Horne is about the only one who can create. Sometimes Morsell or Taylor will get hot for a few minutes but not enough to be a good team.

3/2/2024 11:49:49 PM

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1/5 on FTs and given up 12 ORebs. Not great!

3/4/2024 7:45:31 PM

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Only down 3 at half, that’s promising


3/4/2024 7:50:26 PM

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13 second chance points to 4.

[Edited on March 4, 2024 at 7:53 PM. Reason : Outshooting them 48% to 33% and losing lol]

3/4/2024 7:52:58 PM

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That was good ball handling by horne on that one possession

3/4/2024 8:19:14 PM

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Hilarious how hard you have to foul Burns for them to call it.

3/4/2024 8:26:21 PM

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That chilis 3 for me for $10.99 seems pretty good

[Edited on March 4, 2024 at 8:55 PM. Reason : Welp]

3/4/2024 8:39:36 PM

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^it seems like a good deal but maybe there’s a catch? Like, it’s kid sized portions. Or you gotta bus your own tables? Idk.

3/4/2024 9:19:36 PM

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Wonder if we should have tried Pass more this year than OConnel. Maybe he isn’t better but at least he can shoot a little. Wouldn’t have hurt.

3/4/2024 10:16:32 PM

justinh524
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Or Thomas. His absence from the rotation is more baffling to me.

3/4/2024 11:05:12 PM

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Offense needs to go through Horne and Burnes needs more cheeseburgers

3/4/2024 11:17:28 PM

natureboy
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Good point on Thomas. He seems to do well when he gets a few minutes.

3/5/2024 4:56:02 AM

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Yeah I don’t know that Pass or Thomas are any good. But Pass’s recent usage is just weird. They either are so bad they shouldn’t get off the bench. Or they’re being criminally underused. Neither would have saved our season but the rotations and their usage has been weird. Especially when KK talked about how deep we were in the preseason. We don’t really use our depth.

[Edited on March 5, 2024 at 6:28 AM. Reason : D]

3/5/2024 6:28:26 AM

justinh524
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Thomas was extremely promising last season, both as a defender and as a guy who could shoot 3s.

3/5/2024 8:52:30 AM

rwoody
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Wouldn't be surprised if LJT, Pass, Ross, DJP transfer.

I think Mo is maybe least likely to leave, he's in line to be a key player next year. Taylor may be unhappy with PT downturn but without DJH, MOC and Casey, seems like he will also be key. Middlebrooks getting more PT than at clemson def, would KK plan to start he and Mo together?

Rice and Woods are enigmas, wouldn't be surprised either way.

3/5/2024 10:20:42 AM

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In all seriousness, Keatts is gone right?

3/5/2024 10:54:35 AM

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Idk if he’s gone. Feels like the fan base has reached a point where it’d be hard to bring him back. But who knows.

If he’s gone the roster will look way different next year. If he stays the roster will probably be way different next year even though we only lose 3 guys to graduation.

Next year’s roster is kinda weird. We have the potential to return a lotta pieces. But the problem with this team all along was we had a lot of guys who were role players but not primary scorers. So we lose our 2 primary scorers and bring back like 9 role players. Thats not good! But it probably won’t matter because im sure there will be plenty of roster attrition regardless of the coach

[Edited on March 5, 2024 at 11:04 AM. Reason : F]

3/5/2024 11:04:27 AM

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^^^if keatts is gone i would be incredibly surprised if most of the roster stays. Coaching change would lead to 10+ new guys. Not to mention McNeil almost assuredly would be going elsewhere. Just the nature of the game.

3/5/2024 11:17:31 AM

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I don't care who Keatts has coming in next year. He's gotta go. A whole new roster wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing

3/5/2024 11:23:12 AM

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Not saying it's a good or bad thing, just that a coaching change in modern college basketball pretty much means an entirely new roster. And any new coach will undoubtedly bring in worse HS recruits the first year because they will either be guys the coach recruited at his current(lesser) school or uncommitted lower ranked recruits.

Losing McNeil would suck because he is absolutely the kind of scorer missing from the current team.

But it doesn't really matter because college sports are dying, if not dead already and will completely unrecognizable in a few years. College football is pointless if you're not in the SEC/B1G now and college basketball is going to expand the tournament again and likely fuck it up just as badly.

3/5/2024 11:36:35 AM

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My post was speculation if Keatts returns, sparked by the LJT PT discussion.

3/5/2024 12:22:41 PM

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In the portal/NIL era I do think navigating a coaching change is easier. There will always be a drop off with talent leaving after a coaching change. But with transfers not sitting out, you can still get some immediate contributors.

Either way. The roster next year isn’t a reason to keep or fire KK. McNeil sounds like a baller but you can’t handcuff yourself to a bad coach just for one recruit. And I’m not even super anti-Keatts. Fire him or don’t. I don’t feel strongly either way tbh. I do think it’s pretty obvious that the results through 7 years haven’t been up to what we should reasonably expect.

3/5/2024 12:27:26 PM

justinh524
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Oh i agree you can't keep a coach because of a recruiting class. Just sucks that McNeil is exactly what we needed

Saw some dipshit on twitter suggest we should hire fuckin gregg marshall. I can honestly say that if that happened i would never watch a single nc state game while he was coach.

3/5/2024 12:38:30 PM

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State fans’ wish list of coaches hasn’t changed since like 2005.

3/5/2024 1:21:49 PM

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