i stopped reading after seeing you only raised to 60...

7/10/2008 10:36:11 PM

Haven't we been over this before? I believe one of you criticized a pretty substantial raise of mine on Qs where I was busted...

It's not like 9s are impenetrable...

7/10/2008 10:40:16 PM

if you are wanting alot of action and a big multiway pot then i suppose 60 is what you would want to raise.

7/10/2008 10:44:58 PM

I like to play post flop most of the time.

7/10/2008 10:50:39 PM

Quote :

"i stopped reading after seeing you only raised to 60..."

7/10/2008 11:00:53 PM

so me calling the other raises doesn't count?

7/10/2008 11:05:24 PM

90 people left, Turner has 280 K

7/10/2008 11:16:15 PM

in the main event?

and does anybody know the answer to my question?

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 11:26 PM. Reason : l]

7/10/2008 11:23:36 PM

http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/2008-world-series-of-poker/main-event/chip-counts/day3/

On the bubble, not 90 left, 675 as of 4 mins ago...but none the less he is def cashing

GG Pearljammer

7/11/2008 1:13:43 AM

hellmuth and hansen are still alive too.

are they really bringing the final table back in NOVEMBER?

7/11/2008 8:37:36 AM

Oops yeah, I meant 90 left til the bubble.

Turner finished with 700K+ and Tracey is still in it too.

7/11/2008 8:39:16 AM

that reraise the guy did was awful. I'm guessing he had a mid range pocket pair or something like that. By that time you had great odds and had to call. I don't think anyone behind you would have pushed and if they did you probably have them beat. If the blinds were a higher in a s&g, a raise 3x the bb would probably be okay. But since they are so low and the tournament is in the early stages, you need to raise big to isolate one player or take down the pot there.

or even limp in if it's really early and it looks like a loose table



[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 9:14 AM. Reason : 2]

7/11/2008 8:56:49 AM

Which hand?

7/11/2008 9:00:02 AM

the one scrumples posted above... this sequence is fantastic...

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scrumples [9h 9d]
dp889: folds
DonJulio78: calls 20
mell25: calls 20
BigStack2354: folds
Margret0611: folds
Scrumples: raises 40 to 60
Maxiemand: calls 40
DonJulio78: calls 40
mell25: raises 40 to 100
Scrumples: calls 40
Maxiemand: calls 40
DonJulio78: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [3d Qd 3h]
Scrumples: checks
Maxiemand: checks
DonJulio78: checks
mell25: folds

7/11/2008 9:12:28 AM

Oh, haha. I thought you were talking about one of Turner's hands.

7/11/2008 10:31:34 AM

fuck turners hands. he dont know SHIT.

seriously, you guys need to start playing during the day. these germans are HORRIBLE at poker...

7/11/2008 10:34:02 AM

Could not have worked out any better...


PokerStars Game #18742281511: Tournament #95311398, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/07/11 - 13:08:28 (ET)
Table '95311398 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: nepj (950 in chips)
Seat 2: Scrumples (2975 in chips)
Seat 3: hammy52 (1739 in chips)
Seat 5: broers13 (623 in chips)
Seat 6: YODA0406 (480 in chips)
Seat 7: hanzie (2970 in chips)
Seat 9: tfantin (3763 in chips)
hanzie: posts small blind 25
tfantin: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scrumples [9h Qd]
nepj: calls 50
Scrumples: calls 50
hammy52: calls 50
broers13: folds
YODA0406: calls 50
hanzie: folds
tfantin: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd 9c Jh]
tfantin: checks
nepj: checks
Scrumples: bets 200
hammy52: folds
YODA0406: calls 200
tfantin: folds
nepj: calls 200
*** TURN *** [Kd 9c Jh] [9s]
nepj: checks
Scrumples: bets 500
YODA0406: calls 230 and is all-in
nepj: folds
Uncalled bet (270) returned to Scrumples
*** RIVER *** [Kd 9c Jh 9s] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Scrumples: shows [9h Qd] (a full house, Nines full of Queens)
YODA0406: shows [Ah Td] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Scrumples collected 1335 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1335 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 9c Jh 9s Qh]
Seat 1: nepj folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Scrumples showed [9h Qd] and won (1335) with a full house, Nines full of Queens
Seat 3: hammy52 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: broers13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: YODA0406 (button) showed [Ah Td] and lost with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 7: hanzie (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: tfantin (big blind) folded on the Flop

7/11/2008 1:10:31 PM

You are so bad scrumples.

7/11/2008 1:38:41 PM

Nice...

Turner in top 25.
Hellmuth, Corkins, Matusow, Evelyn Ng, Cunningham, Hanson and Johnny Chan all have healthy stacks.

7/11/2008 1:42:07 PM

Any sites with a blog of the tournament?

7/11/2008 1:46:50 PM

What was so bad about my play?

whatever...

anyway, there's a shitload of "nguyens" in the main event apparently.

wonder what happened to scotty.

7/11/2008 2:17:14 PM

The part where you called preflop.

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 2:40 PM. Reason : ]

7/11/2008 2:20:06 PM

Against A,10 i'd say a set of 9s is an awesome hand.

WHAT IF A 10 HAD COME THEN WHERE WOULD YOUR GOD BE

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 2:32 PM. Reason : k]

7/11/2008 2:30:31 PM

Limping Q9o UTG+1 9 handed in a $1 game is nearly retarded.

7/11/2008 8:17:34 PM

You are so bad scrumples.
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You are so bad scrumples.



hah

7/11/2008 8:28:43 PM

FUCK U NOID

ps i'm being "that guy" today. i think it's lack of sleep. i just called a massive raise from an early pos. limp with 7,10s and busted a mother fucker hard. lol.

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 9:17 PM. Reason : f]

7/11/2008 9:08:45 PM

like i said...that guy...

PokerStars Game #18752776489: Tournament #95364819, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/07/11 - 21:32:19 (ET)
Table '95364819 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: VanBas (1915 in chips)
Seat 5: Scrumples (3575 in chips)
Seat 6: Streumi (4890 in chips)
Seat 7: KrazyGirl82 (3120 in chips)
Streumi: posts small blind 25
KrazyGirl82: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scrumples [3c 8c]
VanBas: folds
Scrumples: raises 150 to 200
Streumi: folds
KrazyGirl82: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [Ks 6s Qs]
KrazyGirl82: checks
Scrumples: bets 400
KrazyGirl82: folds
Uncalled bet (400) returned to Scrumples
Scrumples collected 425 from pot
Scrumples: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 425 | Rake 0
Board [Ks 6s Qs]
Seat 3: VanBas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Scrumples (button) collected (425)
Seat 6: Streumi (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: KrazyGirl82 (big blind) folded on the Flop


ps i've now been dealt 3,8 three consecutive times...

7/11/2008 9:34:30 PM

painfully standard bubble play

read those books I gave you and stop noobing up this thread

7/11/2008 10:06:03 PM

ok

7/11/2008 10:15:16 PM

7/11/2008 10:16:59 PM

7/11/2008 10:19:33 PM

Turner's out. Had aces, flopped a set, got all in vs a flush draw and lost. 38K payouts

7/11/2008 11:23:32 PM

^x5 which ones were those btw?

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 11:37 PM. Reason : doublepost]

7/11/2008 11:36:21 PM

[Edited on July 11, 2008 at 11:37 PM. Reason : .]

7/11/2008 11:37:14 PM

He gave me some shit about being a Superstar by Chris Moneymaker and another book by Phil Laak about how to be intimidating at a table. The foreword in that last book is by Jennifer "I would hit that, but apparently Noid does not wish to, and also Vanessa Rousso...man what I would still do to her" Tilly...

7/11/2008 11:44:58 PM

you couldn't give me that Chris Moneymaker book.

7/12/2008 12:00:46 AM

Before the flop Jon Turner raised to 21,000 and Albert Kim called on the button. The flop came {8-Spades} {10-Hearts} {A-Hearts} and Turner led out for 41,000. Kim then raised to 140,000 and Turner moved all in, leaving Kim to decided if he wanted to call for another 336,000.

After tanking for a good bit he indeed decided to call, and found that his {8-Hearts} {9-Hearts} was up against Turner's {A-Clubs} {A-Diamonds} and top set. The turn quickly reversed the situation as the {Q-Hearts} fell, giving Kim the flush. Turner needed to board to pair to give him the full house, but instead the {4-Hearts} fell on the river, and just that fast Turner was eliminated from the Main Event.

"What am I doing?" Kim wondered aloud after the hand. "I'm so stupid, I'm such a donk. That's the dumbest thing I've ever done."

Jeremiah Smith said, "I agree with you, that's a terrible call. Jon Turner almost always has a set there."

Self-flagellation aside, Kim is still very much alive in the tournament and has around 1.4 million in chips.

7/12/2008 12:08:32 AM

ah, i downloaded like 80 ebooks, I just want to figure out which ones are worth my time. I assume anything by Slanksy and that one on poker tells by caro

7/12/2008 12:10:39 AM

I need this to happen when there is money in the pot!

PokerStars Game #18755763912: HORSE (Hold'em Limit, $1/$2) - 2008/07/12 - 00:11:32 (ET)
Table 'Thia II' 8-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Floyd McKoy ($119.60 in chips)
Seat 2: mr.xanadu ($32.85 in chips)
Seat 3: KeiDash ($40.25 in chips)
Seat 4: gravedigger ($9.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Jesterrose83 ($17.50 in chips)
Seat 6: CCUSTER 911 ($50 in chips)
Seat 7: tr_59 ($92.90 in chips)
Seat 8: Potbuyer ($39.10 in chips)
tr_59: posts small blind $0.50
Potbuyer: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jesterrose83 [Ts Td]
Floyd McKoy: folds
mr.xanadu: folds
KeiDash: folds
gravedigger: folds
Jesterrose83: calls $1
CCUSTER 911: folds
tr_59: calls $0.50
Potbuyer: checks
*** FLOP *** [Tc 5s Th]
tr_59: checks
Potbuyer: checks
Jesterrose83: checks
*** TURN *** [Tc 5s Th] [4d]
tr_59: checks
Potbuyer: checks
Jesterrose83: checks
*** RIVER *** [Tc 5s Th 4d] [Ad]
tr_59: checks
Potbuyer: checks
Jesterrose83: bets $2
tr_59: folds
Potbuyer: folds
Uncalled bet ($2) returned to Jesterrose83
Jesterrose83 collected $3 from pot
Jesterrose83: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3 | Rake $0
Board [Tc 5s Th 4d Ad]
Seat 1: Floyd McKoy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mr.xanadu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: KeiDash folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: gravedigger folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Jesterrose83 collected ($3)
Seat 6: CCUSTER 911 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tr_59 (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 8: Potbuyer (big blind) folded on the River

7/12/2008 12:13:29 AM

Quote :

"ah, i downloaded like 80 ebooks, I just want to figure out which ones are worth my time. I assume anything by Slanksy and that one on poker tells by caro"

Harrington Books 1,2, and 3
Theory of Poker
Tournament Poker for Advanced Players

Read those --> profit.

7/12/2008 12:30:50 AM

there's a more recent one on sit n' go strategy by colin moshman that's good. It's the same publisher that printed the books above. If you play a lot of s&g's thats a must.

7/12/2008 8:38:46 AM

If Kim put Turner on something like AK or AQ, then in his mind it was a coin flip. I wasn't sitting there for hours playing with that table, but I can see why he made that call.

7/12/2008 8:55:00 AM

Turner wouldn't 3 bet all in with AK.

7/12/2008 10:58:19 AM

Quote :

"PokerStars Game #18769237153: Tournament #95455539, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/07/12 - 15:27:55 (ET) Table '95455539 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: BigBamBoo69 (2160 in chips) Seat 2: wiesel86199 (1480 in chips) Seat 3: rick2419 (1720 in chips) Seat 4: Krug1990 (1470 in chips) Seat 5: lippner (740 in chips) Seat 6: bcscb (1470 in chips) Seat 7: RNmark (2080 in chips) Seat 8: Gavin7777 (880 in chips) Seat 9: Bledi92 (1500 in chips) Gavin7777: posts small blind 10 Bledi92: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to bcscb [9c 8c] BigBamBoo69: calls 20 wiesel86199: folds rick2419: calls 20 Krug1990: calls 20 lippner: calls 20 bcscb: calls 20 RNmark: calls 20 Gavin7777: calls 10 Bledi92: checks *** FLOP *** [7c 9d Jc] Gavin7777: bets 860 and is all-in Bledi92: raises 620 to 1480 and is all-in BigBamBoo69: folds rick2419: folds Krug1990: folds lippner: folds bcscb: calls 1450 and is all-in RNmark: folds Uncalled bet (30) returned to Bledi92 *** TURN *** [7c 9d Jc] [2d] *** RIVER *** [7c 9d Jc 2d] [6s] *** SHOW DOWN *** Bledi92: shows [9s 7h] (two pair, Nines and Sevens) bcscb: shows [9c 8c] (a pair of Nines) Bledi92 collected 1180 from side pot Gavin7777: shows [Js 3c] (a pair of Jacks) Bledi92 collected 2740 from main pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3920 Main pot 2740. Side pot 1180. | Rake 0 Board [7c 9d Jc 2d 6s] Seat 1: BigBamBoo69 folded on the Flop Seat 2: wiesel86199 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: rick2419 folded on the Flop Seat 4: Krug1990 folded on the Flop Seat 5: lippner folded on the Flop Seat 6: bcscb showed [9c 8c] and lost with a pair of Nines Seat 7: RNmark (button) folded on the Flop Seat 8: Gavin7777 (small blind) showed [Js 3c] and lost with a pair of Jacks Seat 9: Bledi92 (big blind) showed [9s 7h] and won (3920) with two pair, Nines and Sevens "

was this a correct play

7/12/2008 3:40:45 PM

if it's a sit and go, that early in the tournament, no...but later, possibly yes. with all that limping in, you'd think someone has two pair, a straight, or a set of 7's. That's not an easy lay down.

[Edited on July 12, 2008 at 3:50 PM. Reason : 1]

7/12/2008 3:50:15 PM

At the 10/20 level of a $5 SNG, I would advocate a lay-down pre-flop. However post flop, given that board you've definitley put yourself in a difficult situation.

7/12/2008 4:06:28 PM

Jeremiah Smith screwed the pooch today

7/12/2008 5:17:09 PM

[Edited on July 13, 2008 at 2:59 AM. Reason : .]

7/13/2008 2:53:39 AM

I thought this was cool

Full Tilt Poker Game #7209845495: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (54811114), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:26:45 ET - 2008/07/13
Seat 4: The Hish 24 (3,037)
Seat 5: cdubbs2121 (5,365)
Seat 7: bex83 (1,110)
Seat 9: Taylor710L9 (3,988)
The Hish 24 posts the small blind of 80
cdubbs2121 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Hish 24 [Js Qh]
bex83 folds
Taylor710L9 folds
cdubbs2121 has been disconnected
The Hish 24 calls 80
cdubbs2121 has reconnected
cdubbs2121 checks
*** FLOP *** [Qd Qs Qc]
The Hish 24 checks
bex83 has been disconnected
bex83 has reconnected
cdubbs2121 has 15 seconds left to act
cdubbs2121 bets 160
bex83 has been disconnected
The Hish 24 calls 160
*** TURN *** [Qd Qs Qc] [2h]
The Hish 24 checks
cdubbs2121 has 15 seconds left to act
cdubbs2121 has been disconnected
cdubbs2121 has timed out
cdubbs2121 checks
*** RIVER *** [Qd Qs Qc 2h] [9c]
The Hish 24 bets 640
cdubbs2121 is sitting out
cdubbs2121 folds
Uncalled bet of 640 returned to The Hish 24
The Hish 24 mucks
The Hish 24 wins the pot (640)
The blinds are now 100/200
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 640 | Rake 0
Board: [Qd Qs Qc 2h 9c]
Seat 4: The Hish 24 (small blind) collected (640), mucked
Seat 5: cdubbs2121 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 7: bex83 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Taylor710L9 (button) didn't bet (folded)

7/13/2008 7:28:20 PM

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[Edited on July 13, 2008 at 8:53 PM. Reason : oic]

7/13/2008 8:47:32 PM