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jbtilley
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"(even more severe than the ones imposed on the program last year)"


Considering the violations they had the penalties they received last year were a joke. Maybe they were lenient because they didn't play players that had questionable eligibility... more out of fear than an attempt to be proactive.


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"and the penalties imposed by the University itself will probably be even more severe."


lol That's a good one.

8/17/2012 1:19:29 PM

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"Fans under 50 don't care about football in Chapel Hill"


This kills me. They don't care when it's convenient to say they don't care. A few years ago they were calling themselves a dark horse for a BCS bowl and damn national championship

8/17/2012 1:34:01 PM

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they still say they would've won a national championship in 2010

8/17/2012 1:47:30 PM

TreeTwista10
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WE WOULDVE BEATEN LSU BY 3 TDS IF MARVIN HAD PLAYED

8/17/2012 1:50:55 PM

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"The North Carolina legislature dislikes public higher education in general and Chapel Hill in particular."


lmao

8/17/2012 6:00:33 PM

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That is BS. Most of them WENT to UNC.

He may have a point that most Republican legislatures are not fans of Carolina,but they have enjoyed many years of being the favored child in the General Assembly,as many of them went there.

[Edited on August 17, 2012 at 6:10 PM. Reason : ]

8/17/2012 6:05:26 PM

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"Dirt Bags We Know
by Art Chansky's Sports Notebook
Posted Aug 16 2012 11:54AM

Gregg Doyel first got my attention when he was a punk sports writer for the Charlotte Observer, obviously trying to make a name for himself.

At the time, he wrote a story claiming the problems surrounding UNC’s basketball program in the early 2000s were all Dean Smith’s fault. Smith had been retired for five years but Doyel insisted Smith was still behind the scenes pulling the strings like some puppeteer.

As with numerous columns he has written since as the loosest cannon at CBSSports.com, Doyel was dead wrong. In fact, Smith had just about wiped his hands of his former program after Chancellor James Moeser foolishly vetoed the hiring of Larry Brown in 2000.

Carolina’s brief basketball swoon was on Matt Doherty, the coach Moeser did approve, who of course lasted three years before getting fired, which allowed Roy Williams a second chance to come back and return the Tar Heels to national prominence.

When the UNC football scandal broke in the summer of 2010, Doyel jumped in with both feet, calling Butch Davis something like the “turd in the punch bowl.” His opinion that Davis had to go, if not his characterization, turned out to be true after UNC decided its reputation was more important than keeping Davis. As you know, I agreed with that move.

Doyel (who went to Florida) says he is hesitant to talk trash about Carolina because his sister went here and lives near here. And he likes Roy Williams, one of the few coaches left who gives Doyel the time of day. Yet, after admitting that he only got interested in the academic side of the case upon seeing the alleged Julius Peppers transcript, Doyel did what he often does – take the easy way out with lazy, inflammatory journalism.

Even for his standards, Doyel’s latest tirade is pretty unconscionable and fits what he was hired to do during the Wild West days of the Internet – just throw stuff out there and see if it sticks. He took the Peppers transcript story, jumped to a mile-wide conclusion and predicted both Carolina football and basketball are “going down.” Doyel backs up little of what he says, using the News & Observer reports to form his own absurd opinions.

Who at CBS Sports allows such irresponsible writing?

Doyel then went on a Charlotte radio show Wednesday morning and said he thinks the only two schools in the country offering African Studies majors are Kansas and Carolina and the common thread is Williams. Ah, wrong again, Greggie. The number is 93, including Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, Harvard and Yale, Cal-Berkeley, Michigan and Virginia

I’ve seen the supposed Peppers transcript. If it is indeed his, all it shows is that Peppers did poorly during his (red-shirt) freshman year (1998-99), which is hardly unique for under-qualified athletes. Obviously, he had to get his grades up in summer school to play in 1999, but there is no evidence that Peppers did it by cheating or being given grades in any course.

Other than that, a copy of Peppers’ transcript at one moment in time means nothing, for these reasons:
So what that Peppers was an AFAM major or took AFAM courses – what does that prove?
Afro-African American Studies has been taught at UNC for more than 15 years, with no improprieties uncovered before 2007.
Athletes have been taking the same courses at UNC (and other schools) forever. In fact, most students look for easier or "crip" courses and sign up for them with their friends. Didn’t you?
Despite what else comes out from a period when Carolina earned an NCAA probation, vacated 16 victories, lost 15 scholarships plus a bowl game and changed football coaches twice, most of the athletes who haven’t been implicated do the work, finish the class and get a grade. There is nothing to suggest otherwise.

If you don’t like the fact that some of them are admitted as academic exceptions, are steered toward easier courses and need help from tutors and sympathetic professors, blame the escalation of big-time college athletics into a money-driven enterprise. It is not exclusive to Carolina, not by a long shot.

Reluctant to respond, hiding behind privacy laws, or whatever, UNC needs to stand up and set the record straight about what Tar Heel athletes are supposed to be doing, and what most of them do. Or this is going to spin out of control to the point where more dirt bags like Doyel can claim on national websites that this is "maybe the ugliest academic scandal in NCAA history."

Puh-lease. Worse than the Minnesota and Georgia basketball scandals and the Florida State football final exam scandal?

It’s the job of media like the News & Observer to investigate such stories, publish the facts they find and ask further questions. It’s not Gregg Doyel’s job to defame an entire athletic department over a few guilty parties for a nebulous period of time without any substantiation whatsoever.

“UNC football -- and probably basketball -- is going down,” Doyel wrote in his column. “For starters, there are some banners at the Smith Center that need to come down.”

Don’t think so. In fact, if his editors at CBSSports.com ever wise up, Doyel is the one who needs to go down for writing such drivel."

8/17/2012 9:40:56 PM

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objectively, Chansky (UNC grad) makes some good points

but just like your average walmart carolina fan, he wants to blame a few rogues and blame the system instead of encouraging UNC to dig deep and actually clean up the mess

and lol at him denying that UNC's academic fraud is worse than FSU's stuff from a few years back...i'm not well informed enough to know the details of Minnesota and Georgia

8/17/2012 9:53:56 PM

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Chansky only gave a shit when this scandal leaked into the basketball program

8/17/2012 10:14:16 PM

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I met Chansky years ago. Dude was a major dick.

8/18/2012 1:17:57 AM

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"The number is 93, including Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, Harvard and Yale, Cal-Berkeley, Michigan and Virginia"

he also seems to not know when he's about to end a list.

b/c i'm an asshole, is why i point this out.

8/18/2012 3:49:42 AM

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"but there is no evidence that Peppers did it by cheating or being given grades in any course."


I stopped reading here. Take the blue shades off, there is some evidence.

8/18/2012 7:19:47 AM

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I stopped reading when he started the article by bringing up unrelated topics from 10 years from the same author that he was just still butthurt about

8/18/2012 10:18:37 AM

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I read the whole thing, even though it said "Art Chansky" at the top. His level of denial and butthurt is pretty close to that of the IC crow.

PS - ZZL is zigga zoomba lounge. It's the non-sports forum on IC.

8/18/2012 10:21:37 AM

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Quoth the IC crow, "Nevermore."

8/18/2012 12:14:20 PM

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8/18/2012 12:19:28 PM

ncsuapex
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You must be really dumb if you can't get a degree when they are giving it away.

8/18/2012 12:52:58 PM

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Left early, didn't graduate. No shame in that. However, Rashad McCant Read was one of the better signs I saw in our stands during those games.

8/18/2012 1:14:59 PM

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I'm sure he could've came back to campus to finish a degree with classes that never actually met.

8/18/2012 1:19:48 PM

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Would be cool to see the amount of bball and football that took classes in that department too

8/18/2012 2:35:14 PM

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Per WRAL, Peppers has denied any fraud during his time at UNC

8/18/2012 4:47:04 PM

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motherfucker said "Per"

8/18/2012 4:47:51 PM

jtmartin
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Lol that's what I get for working with people that speak English as a second language- they say that all the time

8/18/2012 4:50:58 PM

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"Just In: In a statement released Saturday, former University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill student-athlete Julius Peppers acknowledged that a transcript found to be posted to the UNC-CH website last week was, in fact his, but he denies any fraudulent grades or courses."

8/18/2012 4:52:41 PM

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All I'm saying, is it took him a long time to write such a short statement.

8/18/2012 5:53:22 PM

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maybe he used what he learned in AFAM to write his response using BPT.

8/18/2012 6:08:20 PM

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I'm willing to bet he didn't even know he was in the classes where he got good grades.

8/18/2012 6:23:08 PM

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He probably hired the tutor to write it

8/18/2012 6:24:24 PM

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""This statement is in response to false allegations regarding my connection to an academic scandal within the University of North Carolina athletic and African-American Studies departments. This week has been an upsetting and challenging week for me, as one of my most private academic documents appeared on the university's website for public examination. "Oh my goodness!" said Chicken Little. "The sky is falling! I must go and tell the king."
On her way to the king's palace, Chicken Little met Henny Penny. Henny Penny said that she was going into the woods to hunt for worms.
"Oh no, don't go!" said Chicken Little. "I was there and the sky fell on my head! Come with me to tell the king." I'm terribly disappointed in the fact that my privacy has been violated, as well as frustrated with whoever negligently and carelessly committed such a flagrant error.
However, it has caused me to have an important moment of reflection over the time that I was a student in Chapel Hill. During my undergraduate years, I, like many other students was trying to find direction and adjust to being independent for the first time as a young adult. With this new freedom and unfamiliar environment, I will admit that, at times some of my priorities were not always aligned properly. Luckily, I had a great support system, including Dr. Carl Carey and the athletic academic department, who gave me much needed counsel.
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8/18/2012 6:35:32 PM

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new kane article, nothing groundbreaking or new that I recognize but mostly skimmed it.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/08/18/2278010/between-transcripts-of-peppers.html

8/18/2012 9:30:54 PM

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" Some fans defend the school, blame the media, contend the transgressions are all minor. Besides, they claim, everybody does it, especially N.C. State. Many of these fans have never been in Chapel Hill."


you tell em Sorenson

8/18/2012 11:17:44 PM

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So how was Peppers eligible with a sub 2.0 GPA?

8/19/2012 8:10:46 AM

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it boggles my mind with UNC losing their whole defense + sanctions that they still have more AP Top 25 votes than we do

8/19/2012 10:22:07 AM

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when your recruiting tactic is "come play football and don't worry about school" then its not hard to get top players...

8/19/2012 1:08:06 PM

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i'm sure that's exactly how they roll.

8/19/2012 1:34:55 PM

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^^^Talk about disrespect UNC 32 votes NCSU 3. Fuck that.

8/19/2012 1:46:44 PM

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Melky hacked unc.edu

8/19/2012 3:03:54 PM

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I thought we were past bitching about preseason polls

but I guess that's just a pipe dream

8/19/2012 3:05:47 PM

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wtf

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/08/20/3467347/peppers-donates-250k-to-unc-scholarship.html

8/20/2012 5:54:17 PM

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Nothing fishy about that. Just trying to get good press for a change

8/20/2012 5:56:44 PM

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No, Julius. It's supposed to go the OTHER way. THEY pay YOU!!! Jeez, he must have failed "Hush Money 101" as well.

8/20/2012 6:02:43 PM

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scumbag julius says he wants to help young college students, donates to scholarships that are only for one race

guess he hoped a quarter million would be enough to buy some good cover up PR

8/20/2012 6:10:26 PM

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time to boycott da poptarts

http://www.sbnation.com/2012/8/20/3256624/pop-tarts-college-football-logos-arkansas-unc-uga

hopefully the crazies at packpride will get the unc ones pulled.

8/20/2012 10:41:47 PM

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UNC's has a red filling because packpride has infiltrated the jam

(paraphrased from someone on twitter)

8/21/2012 9:12:36 AM

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JAMMIN ON THE HOT

8/21/2012 9:15:13 AM

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"scumbag julius says he wants to help young college students, donates to scholarships that are only for one race"


LOL.

8/21/2012 9:24:42 AM

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8/21/2012 10:28:52 AM

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8/21/2012 1:23:01 PM

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I guess Peppers was the one Tarheel basketball player that did not go to Baddour asking for Doherty to be fired.

8/21/2012 1:29:02 PM

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Jobs and Gates didn't fail Algebra.

8/21/2012 1:59:17 PM

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