^ I dislike the 2.50 bet on the flop. With four others and a flop like that with two high cards (10+), someone is bound to have hit that flop, and a pot sized bet isn't going to chase them out with high pair and a decent kicker. Plus there are still hands that are still better drawing hands than yours. Betting out the flop also puts you in a position to almost have to bet the turn and river no matter if you hit your draw or not, which is a position I don't like being in. Pretty much, you over played the draw you had on the flop and while you hit your straight the other guy got luckier on the river.

4/22/2005 6:22:42 PM

i would love to accept that challenge karim

we can get an 8 person table

nice sized buy in, tournament style
real serious game

4 from 'your side' and ill bring three people with me
and we will see what happens

4/23/2005 1:10:39 AM

I agree, the bet on the flop was bad.

All in preflop, I won with QQ vs his AJ

fuzzy5678: well played
david0603: AJ, sheesh I at least had AQ last time
david0603: thx fuz
FNAllIn: i knew you had j's or q's
david0603: uhhhhhh, so why did you call?
FNAllIn: i had ace
david0603: haha
david0603: quote of the year

4/23/2005 3:53:28 PM

anybody want to play tonight.

4/23/2005 4:56:42 PM

yeah but at least you people didnt fold pocket A's

4/23/2005 5:05:49 PM

I <3 you Koroush.

You would have KILLED my pocket Jacks.

4/24/2005 12:03:30 AM

Okay Joey. Name a time and a place and we'll have our "showdown".

The buy-in is up to you. I've got deep pockets, so name it.

Who's playing w/ you?

Brandi is sitting out of this one.

4/24/2005 12:07:00 AM

This is fucking stupid....

The freeroll tournaments are a nice way for new players like me to get a little experience before putting money on the table. As someone who took these tourneys too seriously, I know generally there's a considerable gap between us freerollers and money players. I sure as hell don't have any money to lose, and even if I did I'd still be hesitant on a buy-in over $20. Hell, even a $10 would make me think twice.

Joey, forkgirl is a solid poker player and has made a good chunk of change from it. Don't go there. You're dealing with players that play for hundreds of dollars on a weekly basis, if not more. We ain't in their league, hell I only read this thread so I can learn something.

LimpyNuts, you're right, end of story. No need to provoke this further.

Most importantly, stop this crap about organizing a 4v4 match. It's beyond childish, and if one side gets lucky there will be no end to this stupid debacle. Let this family feud die. If you guys want get pissy go bareknuckle box outside of harrelson. Then at least I can sell tickets and up my non-existent bankroll.

4/24/2005 2:03:50 AM

bought in tonight with $5, left with ~$100

4/24/2005 5:58:06 AM

^^ Ditto. Forkgirl is a very solid poker player... Watching her win that WPC tourney (i.e. beating Barb Enright heads up) was pretty amazing.

4/24/2005 9:52:55 AM

this has gotten pretty stupid

who the hell takes this whole site so seriously anyway
i mean really, the comments i made were only meant to get a rise out of amelia
not spark a damn trojan war or something.

heres the whole point

this is all just a game
poker is a game, its a fun game. but doing stuff like sitting at a table for one hand to get an extra entry in a raffle for inexpensive chips is not poker. deciding to walk in and go all in on the first hand before you even get your chips or fill the table is not real poker. yes, amelia, you would be totally justified to go all in on a hand if you were playing it, but it wasnt the case

brandi, i never once said i was the best poker player, all i merely claim is that i am improving from how i used to be. it doesnt mean im any better than anyone, it merely means im better than i used to be. thats all. never once did i insult you or attack you, and instead you and karim get highly dramatic when i play a hand i want to take a risk on and actually hit. its called sore losing. that is poker. yes, i hae risked a lot of money on 6 8 off before, and who knows, if i want to I may do it again. neither of you can truely say that you havent risked a lot on a medioker or slacking hand.

this drama has gone way too far, and this has obviously divided many people. its just rediculous. amelia, youre not the worlds best poker player, neither is kim, neither is brandi or karim. it is a free poker tournament and its for fun. because its free we can try different things.
karim you may think im the worlds worst player just because i had the balls to see something out, wether or not i lost money. thats real poker, taking a real chance. you have 'deep' pockets i dont. i had the balls to risk all of my money and i wont, big deal, thats poker so get over it

im not afraid of you one bit karim, you will win some, and you will lose some, just as i will. the only difference is, you have 2 players in your corner, you and brandi. when you lose, she folds to you, when she loses, she 'borrows' chips from you.

andrew, you have no idea about anything youre talking about. i am sure youre just the worlds greatest poker prodigy, just out there to get a rise out of poeple like me.

all of you tight asses can just get over yourself, its poker, its fun, its just money

get over it

4/25/2005 1:43:57 AM

can I host this Brunsonesque poker match. Sounds pretty full of drama.

4/25/2005 1:55:24 AM

lol

4/25/2005 2:04:29 AM

i actually think the 4v4 match is the best thing that came out of this thread

4/25/2005 2:42:02 AM

ok, that hand u played that i described was bad poker, ive never said i was the best poker player in the world

also

Quote :

"when you lose, she folds to you"

doesnt make sense

not to mention that

Quote :

"when she loses, she 'borrows' chips from you"

every once in a while when i'd be on a roll and have a lot of chips, she'd get a few of my dollar chips and put them on hers for good luck, she'd always give them back and they were always up to be in play. I dont see what the issue is with this. And if she or I ever went out, we'd buy back in, not take chips from each other

Quote :

"karim you may think im the worlds worst player just because i had the balls to see something out, wether or not i lost money. thats real poker, taking a real chance. you have 'deep' pockets i dont. i had the balls to risk all of my money and i wont, big deal, thats poker so get over it "

every poker player on here will agree with me after reading the hand i described, and if u like stuff like that u should stick to slot machines, b/c what you did wasnt poker, it was idiocy. And i never said you were the worst player, i just said that was possibly the worst played hand that paid off that ive ever been a part of for money in person. My deep pockets remark was a response of Kim saying she has a job a so our small buy ins dont mean much, so if yall want to play for some rent money or what have you lets do it.

Quote :

"yes, i hae risked a lot of money on 6 8 off before, and who knows, if i want to I may do it again. neither of you can truely say that you havent risked a lot on a medioker or slacking hand. "

I swear ive never played a hand so badly, it wasnt the starting hand or even calling the big pre-flop raise, it is the call on the flop for like 1/4 of your chips with absolutely nothing, not to mention 2 overcards on the flop. and then the 2/3 of your remaining stack on an inside straight draw once you caught one of your cards that actually gave you 3 outs. It was ridiculous, and you are dillusional for believing you played that well. I only spoke of 1 hand. Now I had a right to call out yall out on the other thing b/c yall were being hypocritical about Amelia when Kim did the same shit but for real money.

anyways how the hell would a 4 on 4 poker game work

i just say we play with big buy ins and play a 8 player game, I mean I havent been to Kanki in a while so Im looking forward to the game

4/25/2005 4:25:22 AM

Quote :

"because its free we can try different things."

Except go all in on the first hand (Which, you may not know, is a very common practice in freerolls, especially when you're on the button).

Quote :

"thats real poker, taking a real chance"

Playing shitty poker is not "real poker". It's stupidity, just as BoobsR_gr8 pointed out.

Quote :

"andrew, you have no idea about anything youre talking about."

Actually, he knows exactly what he's talking about. I agree with everything he said. Especially the whole targeting people at the table. I've never met you, and I'd love to take you out of a tourney.

Quote :

"all of you tight asses can just get over yourself, its poker, its fun, its just money get over it"

As I recall, you started this bullshit in the first place.

4/25/2005 8:25:38 AM

[/slap fight]

Seriously, everybody chill out, realize you're arguing over nothing, and give it a rest. Every poker player should know something about humility considering we've all been dealt absolutely horrid beat, and been kicked while we're down as a result.

Bury the proverbial hatchet and let this BS die.

4/25/2005 1:34:30 PM

Joey--

Please hon. You are so not making any sense. Everything you say is a contradiction or a spelling or grammatical error. If you're going to fight back, you can at least make sense and try to be eloquent about it.

And don't say things have gotten pretty stupid when your first comment in this thread dripped with jealousy and idiocy.

And what's w/ this "It's all just a game" commentary? I mean... if it was all just a game to you, you wouldn't have gotten in this thread in the first place pouting b/c the “lady” you want to bang made a bad call and lost her chips.

Joey-- You don't have to say that you're the best player. You imply it all the time and then sometimes you get lucky... But most of the time, I just take your chips. How much have you given me now?

Also... to tell you the truth... I don't hang in on MEDIOCRE hands when there are two over cards on the board and I have absolutely NOTHING but runner runner to a straight. Call me crazy but that's just not how I play poker. Never EVER compare me to your shitty calls. That is the worst insult I have ever received from a "poker player."

Also-- For the longest time you were im'ing Karim and I "OMG I GOT 4th at The Cantina tonight!!" Why feel the need to validate yourself? And wasn't it obvious that we didn't care then either?

And actually Joey... this drama hasn't divided anyone. Sean was always only after Sean's own good. And Amelia, Andrew, Karim and I were always pals. Who's on the outside here?

REAL poker is knowing when you're making ridiculous calls over and over again (and choosing not to pull that shit). You wouldn't know real poker if someone took 600 dollars (I <3 you b00) from you and your friends over the past 4 months on 5 dollar buy-ins.

And for God's sake... How many times do we have to discuss this? When you say "borrow" chips-- you're incorrect. I take 1 or 2 of his dollar chips and put them on my stack until I win a hand or until he needs them. Stop pouting just b/c you rarely hang on to your dollar chips long enough to let someone borrow them.

Andrew knows exactly what he is talking about. It must feel pretty shitty when everyone in this thread is calling you out and there is no ally in sight.



AND btw Erios

Umm... Who are you and why do you care?

4/25/2005 2:10:51 PM

ah i miss texas hold em, too addicting for me to get back into right now

4/25/2005 2:17:58 PM

on the previous page there were some programs that most of you use, but I wanted to know what the most popular ones you use to play online are

and i'm sure it's buried somewhere in 25 pages of this thread, but I really didn't want to sit here and read it all.

I saw:

PartyPoker
Paradise Poker
Pacific Poker
Bugsy Club
Ultimate Bet

are there any others? Any better ones? Which out of those are your favorites?

4/25/2005 2:36:25 PM

on party poker.com i lost a $10 hand yesterday. I had a K(sp) and a (6sp). On the flop two more spades appeared so i started betting. The fifth spade didn't come to the river but by then the pot was up to $12. me and the other guy continued to raise each other's bid. i finally called his bet with the pot up to like ~ $25. of course he happens a flush w/ a A(sp) and i lose

4/25/2005 2:41:18 PM

I can see that quite a few people are a bit pissed off in the matter.

I have stirred the pot for way to long in the matter, and I am gonna let things die. Brandi, Karim, Andrew, TJ, everyone else who doesnt care for what I think, I would suggest letting it go too. Amelia's strategy is to shake the table a bit, to play her game while taking everyone out of theirs. I have done just the same in here. Is what I said or did wrong? I decided I was going to do something before it even got started, and it was accepted oh so well in the thread. That has been my point all along.

Brandi, you really dont know what youre talking about at all. Excuse the gramatical errors, I didnt know that anyone was grading the thread. I guess I will have to retake an english class or two.

In response to you oh queen of poker

Quote :

"your first comment in this thread dripped with jealousy and idiocy. "

Why would I be jealous of anyone? I know for a fact that I have a lot of improving to do to be as good as you oh queen of poker, but I play to play. I am not jealous of Amelia at all, never will I be. Congradulations to her for her poker sucess, and anyone else who has done well at the game.

Quote :

"the “lady” you want to bang made a bad call and lost her chips"

More proof that you dont know what youre talking about. It doesnt matter what her call was or what she lost, shes not the lady I want to bang. She is the girl I am dating.

Quote :

"You imply it all the time and then sometimes you get lucky... But most of the time, I just take your chips. How much have you given me now? "

I go to seans place to play poker for fun. i never am determined to win the money at the table. it is just a bonous if i get lucky and win some money. to me its social and its fun, wether or not i win. it isnt a job for me and its not my source of income.

Quote :

"Also... to tell you the truth... I don't hang in on MEDIOCRE hands when there are two over cards on the board and I have absolutely NOTHING but runner runner to a straight. Call me crazy but that's just not how I play poker. Never EVER compare me to your shitty calls. That is the worst insult I have ever received from a "poker player.""

I dont care what you say, but you have played shitty hands too and been called out on a bluff before, so dont even start. I do realize that 6 8 off is not a playing hand, but from the moment the blind was raised, i decided i was going to risk it all because i wanted to. I decided to see it out completely, its not my fault if karim couldnt bet me out. I knew i was behind in the hand, but i caught it. I would be upset too if i got beat, but it was in the cards to river the straight, so i risked it. if i lost the money, lesson learned, but i won didnt i. its not my fault that karim cant let go of the fact that i had the balls to try to make the best out of something that wasnt hot. boo hoo, hes bitching about 7 dollars, when hes claiming he has 'deep pockets' so let it go rich boy.

Quote :

"And for God's sake... How many times do we have to discuss this? When you say "borrow" chips-- you're incorrect. I take 1 or 2 of his dollar chips and put them on my stack until I win a hand or until he needs them. Stop pouting just b/c you rarely hang on to your dollar chips long enough to let someone borrow them. "

we dont have to discuss this anymore. i remember plenty of times when you get busted, you complain about it and take some chips from karim. yeah sometimes you take a dollar or two for luck, but other times you take money when your stack is gone. you have $0, so his dollar or two dollars become your stack. put money in the pot to buy back in, or dont play, simple concept. you have always walked out with money from poker games, but you have not always baught back in when you bust. i am not pouting about anything, as i said before, i dont care if i lose my money at poker, its gambling and i just happened to lose.
who cares

Quote :

"Andrew knows exactly what he is talking about. It must feel pretty shitty when everyone in this thread is calling you out and there is no ally in sight."

i really could care less what peopel think about me in the matter, ive said what i have to say, and you can listen or not listen, whatever.

but karim, sean is right, come to one of the free games and show me up, i dont care. if thats what you need to make you a better man, do it, thats fine. i dont care if i play you or not, i know how i play poker, and i know how to take a risk. i risked all of my money on that hand because i wanted to, reguardless of how it ended up, i was going to see it through. i gambled and got lucky, admited. it wasnt a good hand until the river, admited. it was a lucky shot that i risked and you need to get over it, its chump change according to what you claim you have.
let it go, or settle it at the table
ill be at playmakers tonight at 1030
ill be at the point tomorrow night at 7
or ill be at the cantina on wednesday night at 7

settle it there or just let it go
cause im done

4/25/2005 2:52:16 PM

OK, I am never one to come on TWW and be a badass or boastful. And i rarely call anyone out. Joey I kept my comments strictly to poker but now you want to take personal shots at me, which is fine by me. People hide their weakness behind the computer screen because it is easy to do so. My gloves are off now. I was being nice, but you fucked up now.

Lets start here. How much have I won in the past 4 months off of just $5 buy in games? Any guesses?

Btw since we are taking shots at each other, how about that time you were all over JoyChick at poker at sean's when she she had a bf and not to mention when she just had her clit pierced, you were all about it and you gave her chips after chips, you were whipped and she wasnt even interested. So dont give me any of this giving away chips BS, we always bought back in the rare instances when we werent taking your money.

Joey, dont try to backtrack, what you were doing was not a bluff, you were calling all the way, it was the worst fucking hand ive ever seen, and i'd say that even if i wasnt on the receiving end. You are more trash for being so dillusional that you rationalized the hand as being well played. Please keep playing like that, please do. Especially in money games. You will make all of us in this thread happy.
I used to try to help you out with your game, but it was hopeless and this proves it.

Quote :

"its not my fault that karim cant let go of the fact that i had the balls to try to make the best out of something that wasnt hot. boo hoo, hes bitching about 7 dollars, when hes claiming he has 'deep pockets' so let it go rich boy. "

with this statement everyone will agree you are the biggest moron, you are beyond help. Im not bitching about the money. Its has never been about the money, had it been about the money, i'd never play with yall.


Also if u want to talk about the Queen of Poker, she is #1 in the City and 5th Nationally in World Tavern Poker the good league, not that BS where you get points for showing up. And this is out of like 9000 players, compared to yalls like 2000. Here is a screenshot



How many times are you going to contradict yourself in this thread, this is refuckingtarded, if u want to talk shit talk directly to me. PM me, fuck those free tourneys, what is poker with out the feeling of actual risk and consequences.

4/25/2005 3:45:06 PM

make a new thread plz

4/25/2005 4:04:56 PM

^GG! If you're no comenting on a hand or theory make another thread somwhere else.

4/25/2005 5:53:33 PM

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4/25/2005 7:03:20 PM

Drovkin, I like party poker and empire the best because they usually have 20% reload bonuses from $100-$200 each month where you get $1 for every 7 raked hands you play and you can play four tables at once for each site. These two sites have lots of poor players and you can always get a ring game or a tournament whatever time of the day. PM me if you need a referral name.

4/25/2005 7:11:50 PM

I would also like to point out a few flaws in this 4 on 4 thing you guys are considering.

1. Odds are one group is going to have some system of cheating, whether it be hand signals, verbal, etc.... team poker is just not a good idea.

2. You guys obviously have deeper issues than just poker. The game will probably result in a fistfight, which really isn't good.

3. One game of poker doesn't solve anything. As some of you have pointed out, people can get lucky and win sometimes via ridiculous calls and bad beats. Hey, it happens. I am surprised that anyone would take this "one night, all out" poker match. Maybe you guys should get a steel cage and make it a coffin match too? In all seriousness, this thread is starting to sound like a cross between Monday Night Raw and the Jerry Springer Show. Odds are, the group with the guy who doesn't call down with 68 would win by a landslide, but crazier things have happened. (I have lost track of who is who now.... not a big issue). But let's be honest, if you're a good player you know it. Just leave it at that.

4/25/2005 7:37:55 PM

Quote :

"The game will probably result in a fistfight, which really isn't good."

Actually, I think that's a great idea.

4/25/2005 8:37:54 PM

^haha it looks like it is heading that way.
I like Bodog Drovkin its a newer poker site than PP, stil lost of loose fish and plenty of games. They also have lower stakes than party. And of course if you want it ill give you my ref. #.

4/25/2005 8:50:14 PM

i'd much rather play his people 1 on 4

i mean i'd come back with a lot more $

4/25/2005 9:28:10 PM

I like bodog as well.

Let's get this thread back on track.

The word of the day is: "advertise"

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to david0603 [ 2d Qh ]
garryp folds.
spookynav folds.
tackstrip raises [$1].
classicalgui folds.
EyeDVD folds.
LadyLuck995 folds.
evovolvo folds.
Dynamite_Mac folds.
david0603 calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 8s, 6d ]
david0603 bets [$2].
tackstrip raises [$4].
david0603 raises [$7].
SJThomp has joined the table.
tackstrip folds.
david0603 shows [ 2d, Qh ] high card queen.
david0603 wins $14.75 from the main pot with high card queen.

4/25/2005 10:11:29 PM

Seperate post to show timestamp of hands

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to david0603 [ Kh Jh ]
garryp folds.
spookynav folds.
tackstrip calls [$0.5].
bdrcollie folds.
EyeDVD folds.
LadyLuck995 raises [$2.5].
evovolvo folds.
SJThomp folds.
Dynamite_Mac folds.
david0603 calls [$2].
tackstrip calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Ts, Ad ]
david0603 checks.
tackstrip bets [$7].
LadyLuck995 folds.
david0603 raises [$14].
tackstrip calls [$7].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
david0603 bets [$21].
tackstrip is all-In [$20.45]
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
david0603 shows [ Kh, Jh ] a straight, ten to ace.
tackstrip doesn't show [ As, 8c ] a pair of aces.
david0603 wins $0.55 from side pot #1 with a straight, ten to ace.
david0603 wins $73.65 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.

4/25/2005 10:20:05 PM

i was doing that well in the ring games then i cashed out and since then i cant win a dime in a ring. it sucks a lot...

4/25/2005 10:32:20 PM

so what are the best places for freeroll tourneys in the area, and on what nights? and what are the prizes

4/26/2005 10:46:35 AM

Getting Hand History Information...
----------------------------------------------------------------

Hand #5587337-2011 at Hayward (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 26/Apr/05 11:59:47

fetters9 is at seat 0 with $17.30.
CAridgerunner is at seat 1 with $14.55.
tuffmonkey is at seat 2 with $8.30.
the_typhoon is at seat 3 with $13.45.
mattcaps is at seat 4 with $25.80.
SCStickman is at seat 5 with $9.75.
RVoegele is at seat 6 with $20.35.
Impleader is at seat 7 with $23.75.
besthand is at seat 8 with $14.05.
panic13 is at seat 9 with $4.40.
The button is at seat 3.

mattcaps posts the small blind of $.10.
SCStickman posts the big blind of $.25.

fetters9: -- --
CAridgerunner: -- --
tuffmonkey: -- --
the_typhoon: -- --
mattcaps: -- --
SCStickman: -- --
RVoegele: Kh Ts
Impleader: -- --
besthand: -- --
panic13: -- --

Pre-flop:

RVoegele calls. Impleader calls. besthand folds.
panic13 calls. fetters9 calls. CAridgerunner calls.
tuffmonkey folds. the_typhoon folds. mattcaps
calls. SCStickman checks.

Flop (board: Qh Ah Jh):

mattcaps checks. SCStickman checks. RVoegele bets
$.25. Impleader folds. panic13 calls. fetters9
folds. CAridgerunner folds. mattcaps folds.
SCStickman folds.

Turn (board: Qh Ah Jh 6s):

RVoegele bets $.25. panic13 calls.

River (board: Qh Ah Jh 6s Th):

RVoegele checks. panic13 bets $1. RVoegele raises
to $2. panic13 calls.



Showdown:

RVoegele shows Kh Ts.
RVoegele has Kh Qh Ah Jh Th: straight flush, ace high.
panic13 mucks cards.
(panic13 has As Tc.)


Hand #5587337-2011 Summary:

$.30 is raked from a pot of $6.75.
RVoegele wins $6.45 with straight flush, ace high.
----------------------------------------------------------------

4/26/2005 12:02:43 PM

vnh... ive yet to get a royal flush...
i lost to one one night... i had a boat, aces full of queens. they flip over the royal flush and i lost a good amount of money.
wasnt the most money ive lost in a hand, but, i think it was the worst beat i may have had. I thought for sure i had won.

4/26/2005 7:53:02 PM

that was my first, wanted to share! wish it was both cards of course, but hey, i will take it.

4/27/2005 10:34:24 AM

i've witnessed an occasional 4-of a kind but never a straight/royal flush

4/27/2005 10:55:27 AM

You would think that 4 of a kind was rare, but it's really not that rare. I have hit it probably 10 times or more online, as well as about 5 in real life. I've seen a lot of other people hit it too.

4/27/2005 8:44:33 PM

BOTTOM SET

***** Hand History for Game 1963748093 *****
JimVegiz: Bluff again
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Wed Apr 27 22:15:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 37579 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: ArkhamB ( $225.2)
Seat 2: bustijospeh ( $99)
Seat 3: ouuuuch ( $98.95)
Seat 4: fmpoker ( $160.15)
Seat 5: jtforthree ( $86.9)
Seat 6: huntingducks ( $59.4)
Seat 7: Vovka19 ( $131.4)
Seat 8: TheBigHertz ( $67)
Seat 9: JimVegiz ( $203)
Seat 10: NoidRoid ( $205.1)
bustijospeh posts small blind (0.5)
ouuuuch posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NoidRoid [ 3h, 3c ]
fmpoker raises (3) to 3
jtforthree calls (3)
huntingducks folds.
Vovka19 folds.
TheBigHertz folds.
JimVegiz folds.
NoidRoid calls (3)
ArkhamB calls (3)
bustijospeh folds.
ouuuuch calls (2)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9d, 3s, 8c ]
ouuuuch checks.
fmpoker bets (10)
jtforthree folds.
NoidRoid raises (30) to 30
ArkhamB calls (30)
ouuuuch folds.
JimVegiz: Nice bet
fmpoker calls (20)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5s ]
fmpoker checks.
NoidRoid checks.
ArkhamB bets (192.2)
ArkhamB is all-In.
fmpoker folds.
NoidRoid: 8's or 9's?
jtforthree: nice pot
NoidRoid did not respond in time.
NoidRoid folds.
Creating Main Pot with $294.7 with ArkhamB
** Summary **
Main Pot: $294.7 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 9d 3s 8c 5s ]
ArkhamB balance $294.7, bet $225.2, collected $294.7, net +$69.5
bustijospeh balance $100, lost $0.5 (folded)
ouuuuch balance $95.95, lost $3 (folded)
fmpoker balance $127.15, lost $33 (folded)
jtforthree balance $83.9, lost $3 (folded)
huntingducks balance $59.4, didn't bet (folded)
Vovka19 balance $131.4, didn't bet (folded)
TheBigHertz balance $67, didn't bet (folded)
JimVegiz balance $203, didn't bet (folded)
NoidRoid balance $172.1, lost $33 (folded)


Pretty sure I made the right fold here. With his cold call of $30 on the flop I'm 90% sure he had a set of 8's or 9's. I also did have Gametime+ running with about 450 hands for him, so I knew he was a solid player(the decision would have been harder if there was a chance he was a maniac). There's maybe a 5% chance that he had 6-7, and hit the straight on the turn. Then of course maybe he had QQ/JJ/AA and stole the pot from me(the original raiser said he folded KK). Not really that tough of a fold considering how sure I was that I was beat and how much money I had to lose.

I didn't mean to run out of time like that, I never really had any intention of calling(I checked the turn btw). I was dealing with some other tables while thinking about it and lost track of the timer.


A couple hands later...


#Game No : 1963881920
***** Hand History for Game 1963881920 *****
$100 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, April 27, 22:36:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 37579 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: ArkhamB ( $309.8 )
Seat 10: NoidRoid ( $174.85 )
Seat 5: jtforthree ( $70.9 )
Seat 2: bustijospeh ( $100 )
Seat 4: fmpoker ( $174.3 )
Seat 9: JimVegiz ( $194.22 )
Seat 7: Vovka19 ( $129.75 )
Seat 6: huntingducks ( $63.23 )
Seat 3: goldw718 ( $104.5 )
goldw718 posts small blind [$0.5].
fmpoker posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NoidRoid [ 5d 5c ]
jtforthree folds.
Vovka19 folds.
JimVegiz folds.
NoidRoid calls [$1].
ArkhamB calls [$1].
bustijospeh folds.
goldw718 calls [$0.5].
fmpoker checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, 5h, 6h ]
goldw718 checks.
fmpoker checks.
NoidRoid checks.
ArkhamB bets [$4].
goldw718 folds.
fmpoker folds.
NoidRoid calls [$4].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
NoidRoid checks.
>You have options at Table 37167 Table!.
ArkhamB is all-In [$304.8]
JaggedPeak has joined the table.
>You have options at Table 37039 Table!.
NoidRoid: you're not gonna believe what I have
>You have options at Table 37167 Table!.
NoidRoid: gotta go with it
NoidRoid is all-In [$169.85]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
NoidRoid shows [ 5d, 5c ] three of a kind, fives.
ArkhamB shows [ Kd, Kh ] three of a kind, kings.
ArkhamB wins $134.95 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, kings.
ArkhamB wins $348.7 from the main pot with three of a kind, kings.


His play in this hand just made no sense to me, and it earned him a call. The previous hand was certainly on my mind, maybe that means I was on tilt a little in the sense that it affected my call. I certainly wasn't gunning for him because I thought he bluffed me earlier.

Kings made no sense to me since he limped in late position, and it was very unlikely that he had tried to buy the pot on the flop and then hit a set of 10's. So basically in my mind I had to decide if he had 6's or not.

So I get to thinking that if he does have a set, why in the world would he play it like that. I told him that I folded 33 the hand before, so he knows I'm a tight player and there's no way he'll get me to call with less than a set given that board. I also smooth called the flop, so he prolly thinks I don't have a set.. a flush draw or top pair would make much more sense

So I decide that he probably has two pair or maybe AK, and that's he's either protecting his hand or just being a dick because he's 99% sure I won't call and he's rubbing the previous hand in my face. There wasn't a lot of money in the pot, so I certainly did consider folding even after making this deduction. But I really thought I had caught him with his hand in the cookie jar, and that there was no way he thought I had a set given the way the hand had gone, so I went for it.

The kings truly surprised me, I thought it would be 66 if I was going to lose. Regardless, if you look at the hand from his perspective he limped with kings late and made the stone nuts that held through the turn. There was no real money in the pot, but he pushed in for ~$170 against an opponent that he knows will only possibly call with one of two hands(55 or 66). That play still completely baffles me, but hey it worked.

Looking back, I think he thought I was on tilt a lot more than I was. I had told him about folding the 33 a few hands ago, but didn't really harp on it or anything. I guess he figured since I had made a big laydown to him once, I would possibly call with 1 or 2 pairs if he pushed there.





[Edited on April 27, 2005 at 11:26 PM. Reason : .]

4/27/2005 11:16:41 PM

get suited 9(club) and J in hole. down to three guys , first guy folds off the bat. so i check and the other guy calls the blind.

on the flop a 10(h) , 8(d), and J(h) appear. i check the other guys bets $.25 I call. I assume he's betting on the 10's or J and i got a fair shot of catching the straight for only $.25. On the turn a Q(s) appears. I'm set to go, i bet .50 cents. He raises to $1 i Call. The river comes and it is a 5(s). I bet a $1. He raises me to $2. I'm already down to $4 left so I just go all in. Turns out he had K and 9 thus the higher straight. I lose

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4/28/2005 12:08:05 PM

Noid I am gonna have to say I think you're a really good online player. You play and analyze things a lot like I do. Definitely not the kind of player that I make my $$ off of.

4/30/2005 9:00:56 PM

Why did you go all in HUR?

Noid is good til he has to play heads up.

[Edited on April 30, 2005 at 9:08 PM. Reason : ]

4/30/2005 9:07:17 PM

tonight my pocket Ks flopped a boat full of aces, so i go all-in. i raised big from the big blind to get all the trash out. my only caller had pocket Qs and caught runner, runner for quads. talk about a freakin' bad beat.

5/1/2005 2:32:02 AM

i witnessed a hand almost exactly like that just a few days ago... but, it was queens full of aces, and the pocket kings took runner runner for the quads.

5/1/2005 10:05:40 AM

learn how to shuffle!!1

5/1/2005 10:15:42 AM

I was playing the other day with an absolute moron. We all know the type. Calls anything preflop, won't lay down a draw....

Well anyways, I get 10 10 and raise to like $4 (.50 BB table). I get 2 callers, one of them being said idiot. So the flop comes Q22. At this point I am slightly paralyzed, considering a 2 or a Q now beats me. They check to me, so I check too. The next card is a 6. Once again it is checked to me, so I figure I'll test the waters to see if my 10's are any good. I throw $10 out, which is roughly the pot, and get 2 calls. At this point I know I am beat... someone either has the Q or a 2... maybe even pocket 6's. Well, wouldn't you know, the the river comes and I hit my 10. So now I have 10's over 2's, a really solid hand, especially considering my competition.

Well, the first guy bets, the second (the idiot) goes all-in. I figure the first guy is on AQ, KQ, something like that, and that the idiot was playing A2.... something with a 2. Well of course I call the all-in, and so does the initial raiser.

As it turns out, the first guy did have AQ, but the idiot had pocket 2's. So for the second time in my life, I lost to quads when I had a great boat. I hate so bad when retards get lucky.

5/1/2005 10:19:05 AM

so he flopped quads and hes a retard for taking all that money?

5/1/2005 10:37:34 AM

No he was just a retard in general. It's not hard to play a hand when you flop something as unbeatable as quads. It's just insanely frustrating when you wait for a great hand against a guy who has been playing like an incredible retard the whole night, and he just happens to have a better hand.

5/1/2005 12:48:14 PM