gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
thats the worst idea ever 12/5/2006 1:36:07 PM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
Either a Mystique power, or a power to mess with someone's head ala The Shadow
and what's with this on the nbc website? "Think you've read them all? Maybe, but have you found all the hidden surprises? 12/5/2006 1:41:49 PM |
PrufrockNCSU All American 24415 Posts user info edit post |
There are links in the graphic novel to different pages, like one to Claire's Myspace page and another to a Nathan Petrelli campaign video.
Holy shit this weeks graphic novel is $Texas. Mr. Bennet is BY FAR my favorite character so far.
[Edited on December 5, 2006 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ] 12/5/2006 2:08:16 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
oh and the scene with peter and matt in the same room last night reading each other's minds was my favorite i think. 12/5/2006 2:40:53 PM |
Malsi All American 2072 Posts user info edit post |
Notice the time, It's obviously not dark outside and not close to midnight. And the watch looks nothing like Sylar's. Also I keep coming back to the whole "You look different without your scar" business. Is it completely bogus, and has nothing to do with what's going to happen?
Mohinder looks happy when he first see's Peter then looks down near his hands/crotch gets sad and runs. Claire also stairs down Peter before she says I'm sorry.
What the heck is going on??? Haha damn this show!
Peter is completely getting fucked up. Is he mainly just getting weak from being around so many people with powers that he can't control himself? Maybe he has side effects from absorbing powers. Claires power actually makes him sick, Isaacs power makes him actually see events of the future, etc etc.
more ideas soon.
12/5/2006 8:00:42 PM |
PrufrockNCSU All American 24415 Posts user info edit post |
It doesn't look to me like it's seven until midnight in that pic anyways. 12/5/2006 8:31:51 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Well think about what would be happening to Peter when all those Heroes are around him. He would suddenly have like 10 new powers and the only ones he has any experience with (that we know of) are flying, painting the future, mind reading, and healing. Even with those, his experience is extremely limited. So he is out there chilling and suddenly he can do all this shit and he has no idea wtf is going on. So he loses control and BOOM. 12/5/2006 9:45:36 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "to me it seemed like peter's brother was coming after him, so in anger to stop his brother he blew himself up (possibly because he couldn't control the power he just gained.
also, in his vision you can see his brother won the election... that probably has a lot to do with it. like peter finding out his brother is evil and trying to stop him" |
Worst idea in this thread.
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Sylar is the one who explodes because he is crazy. He will get the brains of radioactive man. There is no point in making Peter a crazy character when they already have one at their disposal. Furthermore, sylar has already expressed self-loathing, giving him a reason to want to go out in a big bang.
Don't know why peter is sick, but it could have something to do with being near sylar. Simone doesnt have powers. Bennet doesn't have powers. Indian guy doesn't have powers.12/5/2006 10:46:23 PM |
ncsu919 All American 1067 Posts user info edit post |
^i wouldnt be so sure of yourself. this show has so many twists in it. but im guessing youve seen all of them so you must know for sure. 12/5/2006 10:56:25 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks for the advice, pussy. 12/5/2006 10:59:34 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
sylar doesn't want to die, he wants to have unlimited power at his disposal. 12/5/2006 11:27:31 PM |
E-Dawg All American 8309 Posts user info edit post |
Peter could be the one who explodes because he is absorbs from radioactive man and can't control the power, just like when he was around Parkman and started having "thought feedback". Another possibility is that it somehow overloads his power absorbing abilities when too many of the heroes are gathered in one place around him. 12/6/2006 12:33:10 AM |
JCTarheel All American 2430 Posts user info edit post |
Alright, I've watched some past episodes and the beginning of episode 4 makes it pretty clear that the Haitian guy is the one who can block powers, at least psychological ones. After Parkman is captured, Bennett is talking with him and Parkman tries to use his powers. Bennett says "Trying to hear my thoughts, Matt? Not with my friend here. He's special too." Then the Haitian dude walks into the room. Exactly how far his powers can stretch we don't know but it's pretty obvious he just has to be in the general vicinity of Bennett.
I'd also forgotten about when Sylar gets shot by Parkman several times in episode 3 and falls to the ground as if dead. Then he slowly gets back up and escapes. So I guess this is why he told Eden the gun wouldn't hurt him. Sounds like he already has some kind of regenerative power but maybe Claire's is more potent...... 12/6/2006 6:33:14 AM |
MinkaGrl01
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I think Peter is sick from being near radioactive man, maybe he was in the same building as they were holding Peter? 12/6/2006 8:23:05 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
So I'm not sure if it's been said before but I didn't want to re-read the whole thread.
The seven minutes to midnight isn't meant to actually point to the time when shit happens. It's a reference to the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. Their doomsday clock has been around since 1947. They point to how close the world is to nuclear holocaust by moving the hands on a fictional clock closer to midnight as the stability deteriorates. We are (and have been since 2002) at seven minutes to midnight.
http://www.thebulletin.org/doomsday_clock/index.htm
My guess is we'll see the talk about seven minutes to midninght move closer and/or further away as the heroes do things that would have an impact on the actual bomb in NYC. 12/6/2006 9:05:06 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
i have the idea the mr. bennet uses the hatian as a decoy to conceal the fact that he has the power he seems to want to keep having powers a secret, that also explains him going up to syler i wonder who it is that he works for though? who told him to keep syler alive
also i think peter explodes inorder to kill syler but also takes out the city, thats his big job
saving clair was a big part of that cause now syler cant survive the explosion, also only peter can fight syler cause he can match power to power around him 12/6/2006 10:50:47 AM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
^ have you even watched the show!?
2 examples: 1) Haitian and the Quarterback 2) Him telling Claire he was sent to erase her memory, but he wouldn't because it was important for her to know 12/6/2006 10:52:14 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Bennet has a power, his power lets him not be affected by the Haitian and possibly more of the heroes. Think about it, would the Haitian could have just mind wiped Bennet into thinking he never gave the order to wipe Claire. 12/6/2006 10:58:12 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
im not saying that the hatian doesnt have a power, im just saying that we assume bennet doesnt cause the hatians always around
but i dont think that eden and the hatian are working together
[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 11:10 AM. Reason : .]
oh by the way mohinder does have a superpower, he can dream of the past
[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 11:14 AM. Reason : .] 12/6/2006 11:00:09 AM |
JCTarheel All American 2430 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "oh by the way mohinder does have a superpower, he can dream of the past" |
lol12/6/2006 11:30:16 AM |
SymeGuy69 All American 11036 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "
Notice the time, It's obviously not dark outside and not close to midnight " |
First of all, that watch reads 7:35. And in the very next shot, there is a clock on the side of the building that reads about 5:00 (when peter is looking down the tunnel...where the hell have we seen that tunnel before??????)12/6/2006 11:34:01 AM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
Mohinder does not dream of the past...I'm hoping you were just joking
the little indian boy is the reason why Mohinder saw/had those dreams 12/6/2006 12:12:54 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
i read it from a reputable website that mohinder can dream of the past 12/6/2006 1:08:41 PM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure we can all dream of the past
omg we're all heroes!!!!
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and no, it's the little indian boy that is allowing him to see these dreams, it's not him 12/6/2006 1:18:38 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
This show is so retarded.
I can't stop watching. 12/6/2006 1:33:59 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bennet has a power, his power lets him not be affected by the Haitian and possibly more of the heroes. Think about it, would the Haitian could have just mind wiped Bennet into thinking he never gave the order to wipe Claire.
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Uhh, and then he would just give him the order again? Bennet does not have a power. I would put money on it that by the end of the season Bennet will be dead and the Haitian will be allied with the heroes (or possibly just with claire). Either that or Claire will not have a major use on the show, there is no way Bennet would willingly let her join the other heroes or fight Sylar, he has to go.12/6/2006 3:04:00 PM |
SymeGuy69 All American 11036 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bennet does not have a power" |
And where was the Indian boy in Peter's NY dream sequence?...i didn't see him. I saw Micah, but that was the only child i saw.12/6/2006 3:12:01 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
Oh and also in reference to Eden - they made a slip up... why'd she bring the gun into sylars room in the first place? In her graphic novel (#9) she tells her mother she wants her to die and her heart stops, why not just do that to sylar? (Not that it would've worked in the first place as it appeared her voice didnt effect him that time, but still)
[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 3:13 PM. Reason : aa] 12/6/2006 3:13:10 PM |
KillaB All American 1652 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh and also in reference to Eden - they made a slip up... why'd she bring the gun into sylars room in the first place? In her graphic novel (#9) she tells her mother she wants her to die and her heart stops, why not just do that to sylar? (Not that it would've worked in the first place as it appeared her voice didnt effect him that time, but still)" |
I think the plan was to make it look like he went nuts and killed himself. If his heart just stopped whomever Bennett's boss is might have put two and two together that his heart conveniently stopped. That's just my interpretation though.12/6/2006 3:34:11 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
uhh not to bash you or anything but instead of quoting the post above you just use ^ also why would the boss believe that a gun conveniantly got into his cell? 12/6/2006 3:39:17 PM |
KillaB All American 1652 Posts user info edit post |
No clue how they'd explain that one away. Maybe... uh... maybe he moved it from somewhere with his mind. That's a pretty big stretch, but it's the best I can come up with one short notice. 12/6/2006 3:43:00 PM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ eden's mom /= Sylar
Quote : | "And where was the Indian boy in Peter's NY dream sequence?...i didn't see him. I saw Micah, but that was the only child i saw." |
we already know Peter has vivid dreams, he has had at least 2 others...the indian boy NOT being in this one (as he WASN'T in the others) has nothing to do with Bennet having/not having a power.
[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 3:46 PM. Reason : ]12/6/2006 3:46:03 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
my guess...Sylar was affected by Eden the first time and saw how her power worked with his power and then he became immune to it 12/6/2006 3:47:35 PM |
SymeGuy69 All American 11036 Posts user info edit post |
^^No shit. I didn't say it had anything to do with Bennet. I was agreeing with the bennet line, then asking about the Indian kid. Someone mentioned that he was in the NY sequence. 12/6/2006 4:01:37 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
i'm hoping that mr bennet's boss is mr. linderman 12/6/2006 4:25:58 PM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
in the graphic novel, her mother dropped her cigarette into flammable cleaning solution (or something) to kill herself. her heart did not just stop.
she had to give sylar the means to kill himself (which is why she was going to give him the gun). She said, "i'm going to give you this gun and you are going to blow your brains out)". 12/6/2006 4:30:00 PM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
No, her heart stopped, and she therefore dropped the cig cause she was dead.
Because Eden was screaming at her mother to wake up but she didn't because she was already dead. 12/6/2006 4:53:41 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "also only peter can fight syler cause he can match power to power around him" |
I dont think Peter can absorb Sylars power (unless you are refering to sylars original power). I know in the last episode they talked about how Sylar's DNA had changed and all, but I just dont believe it.
I wonder if Peter needs to be around the whole person to absorb, or just the persons DNA, because Im sure he has some of Claire and Sylars blood on his shirt. Also, could he just go around and collect hair samples and have any power he wants?12/6/2006 5:37:22 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
eden might have brought the gun in there just in case her plan to make sylar kill himself didnt work.
If she didnt have the gun, she wouldve gone in the room, been grabbed by sylar, and he wouldve taken her brains since she had no way to defend herself 12/6/2006 5:39:21 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
actually in a huge surprise twist here's what's going to happen: *****SPOILER ALERT****** *****SPOILER ALERT****** *****SPOILER ALERT****** *****SPOILER ALERT****** *****SPOILER ALERT****** *****SPOILER ALERT******
peter is going to call his friend dexter who is a forensic specialist that doubles as a serial killer who has been killing off heroes and collecting blood samples. peter will get all the blood samples and WTFPWN sylar with his powers. 12/6/2006 5:41:07 PM |
SmoothTalker Veteran 198 Posts user info edit post |
So yea I know this isn't how it works, but came up in convo with a friend and I thought Id share:
Step 1: Simone chick has the dreaming of the future power Step 2: Peter slept with Simone and got her power Step 3: Peter wants the cheerleaders invulnerability power Step 4: Graphic novel showing how he "earns" that power
Also Im thinking that peter will be able to use all of Sylars powers, obviously he cant control these powers yet...mind reading/when he heals/walking on air near his brother etc...
Im also thinking Sylar blocked the bullets (from the cops) and maybe Edens power using his psychic ability...Although I like the "he understands Edens power so isnt affected" theory as well. 12/6/2006 5:53:17 PM |
SmoothTalker Veteran 198 Posts user info edit post |
Any ideas on what is wrong with Peter?
I think I remember them saying that homeland security or someone was moving the radiation man from the interrogation building....so I dont think Peter is suffering from that...
Could the Hatian just have total mind manipulation....and be the cause of Peters dreams/nightmares.....how do we know they are visions of the future? 12/6/2006 6:01:15 PM |
DeeDee21 All American 9905 Posts user info edit post |
what's wrong with peter has been discussed. he's probably having a superpower overload. also, i think peter's dreams are his own, since he was having them before he came into contact with anyone exhibiting powers. [and don't say "his brother" because his bro flew AS peter was sleeping].
recap: peter, 2 powers: absorbing the abilities of others, incredibly accurate dreams.
Quote : | "peter is going to call his friend dexter" |
HAHA!
[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 6:49 PM. Reason : he's kinda like jean grey.]12/6/2006 6:45:36 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
this is why i ♥ you 12/6/2006 7:34:20 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
so i just watched this weeks episode, and a few things that havent been mentioned yet.
Remember when Hiro was trying to convince the girl in the texas diner about his abilities and told her about "the dragons will win" then proves it to her with the paper the next day?
Think there's a link here with Hiro in one of Isaacs paintings, facing a dragon? Will the Dragon win again?
Also, the thing with peter actually being the one to blow up would be too easy. It was almost predictable that was the direction they were going with last nights show, but I really dont think that's the full direction of what we are going to see.
Why was claire in her cheerleaders outfit in the bomb scene? Peter already knows she's a cheerleader, why was that necessary? If it really was sylar, why was claire apologetic? Do sylar and peter somehow morph?
Wasnt Mohinder in the drivers seat of the cab? (like his father was a taxi driver...)
Lastly, correct me if im wrong here, but how do we know exactly that the blood on the window was in fact eden's? I mean, thats a stretch to assume that it could have been sylars and hell regenerate, and the angles dont make sense, but how knows, we didnt see edens dead body no?
If there are things here that are basic, fill me in, i didnt pick up on this show till a few weeks ago. 12/7/2006 9:53:01 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^the painting was a t-rex, and the paper's headline was the Swallows slay the Dragons 12/7/2006 9:59:21 AM |
SymeGuy69 All American 11036 Posts user info edit post |
^^Everyone was in their "iconic" clothing, which makes sense for a dream...it's how they are iconically perceived.
Why did Peter TURN IN to Mohinder? (Mohinder came out of the cab, smiled, then look scared, and then Peter shut the cab door as if HE was getting out of the cab, and Mohinder was gone.)
Also, why was Syler unconscious at the same time as Peter? because peter was portraying him in the dream? So many questions...
(Also, everyone was looking down at Peter towards his midsection.His hands flaming? Something else?)
[Edited on December 7, 2006 at 10:33 AM. Reason : x] 12/7/2006 10:32:27 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
Mohinder is also a cab driver. He took the job in America to pay for his apartment.
In the graphic novel, Bennett is seen going to Eden's Father's house and telling him she died. There is also a scene where they rush in after Eden dies to recapture Sylar 12/7/2006 11:58:35 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
double, my bad
[Edited on December 7, 2006 at 11:59 AM. Reason : .] 12/7/2006 11:58:56 AM |
ncsu919 All American 1067 Posts user info edit post |
we dont wanna hear stuff from the novel, its like a spoiler, at least give us a warning 12/7/2006 12:50:12 PM |