glad we changed your mind

12/6/2007 12:15:28 PM

This should be at the top of the page, for everyone's amusement.

Golovko said:

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"(for now) stop fucking up the thread"

Yeah. Golovko said that.

12/6/2007 12:16:24 PM

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"FanatiK: you're kidding yourself if you think that'll be a reality in the next 5 years."

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"SandSanta: I'm just saying, 5 years from now with the nextgen xbox and xboxLive and even videogame systems becoming even more mainstream, I could see it happening."

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"FanatiK: agreed."

So we either changed your mind or you're kidding yourself. Pick.

12/6/2007 12:17:15 PM

you got me.

I'd be surprised if downloadable HD gains any significant steam w/in the next 5 years. I could see it START picking up steam right around that time though.

arbitrary time period anyway.

it's semantics. My original point remains: downloads aren't a viable alternative for the forseeable future.

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 12:21 PM. Reason : d]

12/6/2007 12:19:37 PM

5 years before it becomes a technologically viable alternative to physical HD media for mass market adoption. 10 years before it replaces it completely if HD media ever takes off. If neither one of these formats ever gets adopted by J6P, then yeah, downloading HD media will be it. It's not a factor now though, and won't be for years.

12/6/2007 12:37:26 PM

Golovko said: The PS3 just does blu ray. (for now)

12/6/2007 12:38:06 PM

and dvd

12/6/2007 5:11:01 PM

^we're talking about new formats and future formats....not old school

12/6/2007 5:36:53 PM

ok because i was about to add cd-rom too

12/6/2007 6:54:30 PM

you mean those round discs that music used to be distributed on?

12/6/2007 7:05:20 PM

without reading this thread at all...


what should a I buy?

A) PS3
B) X-box 360 an an X-Box HD-DVD player

My decision is solely based on whether blue ray or hd-dvd is going to win out

12/6/2007 7:45:31 PM

you should wait because no one knows which format (if either) will win.

if you have to buy something, just buy whichever is cheaper, A or B (A is cheaper)

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 7:57 PM. Reason : s]

12/6/2007 7:56:05 PM

just buy which ever has more movies you like.

that is if games aren't even a factor.

if you want more good games to chose from then go xbox360...but thats all relative depending on who u ask.

12/6/2007 7:57:54 PM

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"just buy which ever has more movies you like. that is if games aren't even a factor. if you want more good games to chose from then go xbox360"

12/6/2007 9:14:29 PM

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"if you have a decent upconverting dvd player, keep it and try not to stress out over the minute differences between an upconverted signal and true HD (though i suppose "minute" depends on your television...on my 37" LCD, it makes virtually no difference) as it's been noted, unless you're willing to spend the (significant) amount of money required for a high(er)-end setup, it's relatively pointless right now (assuming you're not hung up on having the latest/greatest)"

ok sounds good. I have a 37" Visio too. I like it, but I doubt that it would make a huge difference on my system.



and jesus, i don't post in Tech Talk a lot, but is Golovko always such a pseudo-knowitall?

12/6/2007 9:23:43 PM

Pretty much every post he has ever made screams of a 14 year old nerd that thinks he has the answer to all lifes questions.

12/6/2007 9:36:01 PM

... says Chance, of all people

12/6/2007 9:36:41 PM

its ok, chance will be chance. there really isn't much of an explanation to it.

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"and jesus, i don't post in Tech Talk a lot, but is Golovko always such a pseudo-knowitall?"

lolerskates. you mean like everyone else in this thread? thats what i thought.

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 10:06 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2007 10:05:42 PM

"it isn't me, it's everyone else!!!"

12/7/2007 9:38:48 AM

"its me and everyone else in this thread"

reading comprehension FTW.

12/7/2007 9:59:43 AM

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"Solinari All American 10571 Posts user info edit post block user ... says Chance, of all people"

...says Solinari, of all people

Go cry somewhere else fag.

12/7/2007 10:47:30 AM

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" Xbox 360 - HD DVD Bundle SKU: 999977000050000 Includes: Console with HDMI output, additional wireless controller, and HD DVD Player for Xbox 360 Customer Rating: Customer Reviews: 6 Shipping: Usually leaves our warehouse in 1 business day Store Pickup: Not Available Our Price: $579.97"

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" 40GB PS3 System This latest console package includes the Spider-Man 3 movie on Blu-ray Disc, all for just $399.99. "

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"Sony - PlayStation 3 80GB Limited Edition MotorStorm Pack Model: 98004 SKU: 8463129 Take the gaming world by storm with this incredible package Customer Rating: Customer Reviews: 73 Shipping: Usually leaves our warehouse in 1 business day Store Pickup: Available at most stores Our Price: $499.99 "

so, 579, 499, or 399

12/7/2007 2:01:06 PM

Or, I mean, you could get the 360 Arcade ($280) along with the HD DVD drive (~$180) for about $460.

But you know, either way, really.

12/7/2007 2:06:12 PM

or you could take out the additional controller since you have no friends and will be playing alone anway.

12/7/2007 2:14:21 PM

Or get the 360 arcade, and a Toshiba A3 with 10 HD DVD movies for about 560$

12/7/2007 2:57:21 PM

I wish some of these cheapie HD-DVD players had 1080p output, I'd be all over that.

12/7/2007 3:46:20 PM

These are the numbers from the weekend after Black Friday. There weren't any particularly strong titles released from this week, however it has been the first week in a LONG time that there were more HD DVD titles released than there were Blu-ray.

I also noted a few weeks ago that Planet Earth on HD DVD had had a big spike on the Amazon charts. Here we see that reflected.



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Also... Samsung BD-UP5000, Dual-format player shipping from Amazon for $800

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 5:42 PM. Reason : Samsung BD-UP5000]

12/7/2007 5:35:38 PM

Fanatik, yea I think dual formats is the way to go now.

Just reality.

12/8/2007 12:38:10 PM

^I don't see a good reason to buy a dual-format. You could buy a player for each format totaling $700 and then sell one of them if/when the winning format becomes clear.

12/8/2007 2:10:42 PM

Dont assume I'm advocating going purple.

12/8/2007 3:10:52 PM

so ive been told you can convert from hd-dvd to bluray

12/8/2007 3:16:19 PM

hmm... i dunno - are you sure that binary data on one medium can really be copied over to another medium??

just doesn't sound right to me, for some reason

12/8/2007 4:13:26 PM

^^define "convert". You can't play an HD DVD in a Blu-ray player, and you can't play a Blu-ray disk in an HD DVD player. You can hold everything you would have on an HD DVD on a Blu-ray disk, since the latter has more space, however the HD DVD spec is more demanding than Blu-ray profile 1.0, so you can always be sure your HD DVD player will have an internet connection, and you'll always be sure you can have picture-in-picture commentary for HD DVDs.

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"You could buy a player for each format totaling $700 and then sell one of them if/when the winning format becomes clear."

Sell it to whom?

12/9/2007 1:24:14 PM

^ A sucker is born every minute. Didn't Grady the Badger teach you anything about selling stuff?

12/9/2007 2:27:08 PM

you can rip an hd-dvd and burn it to blu-ray.
it is possible and not even that difficult

12/9/2007 2:52:01 PM

Or you buy a player of each which is cheaper then getting a burner for either.

12/9/2007 5:09:52 PM

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"Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Dec 11, 2007 Harry Potter Limited Edition Gift Set: Years 1-5 Dec 11, 2007 Lost: The Complete Third Season Dec 11, 2007 High School Musical 2: Extended Edition Dec 11, 2007 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Dec 11, 2007 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Dec 11, 2007 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Dec 11, 2007 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Dec 11, 2007 Led Zeppelin: The Song Remains the Same Dec 11, 2007 The Legend of Zorro Dec 11, 2007 Rent Dec 11, 2007 SOS! Tokyo Metro Explorers: The Next Dec 11, 2007"

this weeks releases. I'll be picking up the Harry Potter films but thats it.

12/9/2007 10:37:47 PM

HDM Releases for December 11, 2007

* The Bourne Ultimatum (HD DVD)
* Freedom: 3 (HD DVD)
* Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (Blu-ray)
* Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (HD DVD)
* Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (Blu-ray)
* Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (HD DVD)
* Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (Blu-ray)
* Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (HD DVD)
* Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (Blu-ray)
* Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (HD DVD)
* Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Blu-ray)
* Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (HD DVD)
* Harry Potter Years 1-5 Giftset (Blu-ray)
* Harry Potter Years 1-5 Giftset (HD DVD)
* High School Musical 2 (Blu-ray)
* Led Zeppelin: The Song Remains the Same (Blu-ray)
* Led Zeppelin: The Song Remains the Same (HD DVD)
* The Legend of Zorro (Blu-ray)
* Lost: The Complete Third Season (Blu-ray)
* Picture This (HD DVD)
* Rent (Blu-ray)
* SOS! Tokyo Metro Explorers: The Next (Blu-ray)

Yep, Bourne is HD DVD exclusive, and should sell very well. Rent is Blu-ray exclusive, however it will probably sell more in the long term, rather than spike when it's released... but the big seller this week will be Harry Potter.

12/10/2007 12:25:40 AM

Now that I have both players. I actually think I'll get Harry Potter on Blu Ray instead of HD DVD and get Bourne along with it. (HD DVD of course)

12/10/2007 12:59:18 AM

Toys R Us is now selling the Xbox 360 HD DVD player for $130. Probably hard to get one though.

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2538552

12/10/2007 3:55:03 AM

I finally got around to watching spider man 3. That is probably , ok it was, the worst film I've seen this year. I love how one quarter of it is a fall out boy concert. Leave it to you guys to find any kind of merit in that film.

I will say you are an optimistic bunch.


I apologize for being off topic.

Warmest Regards




[Edited on December 10, 2007 at 8:14 AM. Reason : .]

12/10/2007 8:14:20 AM

meh, wasn't that bad. wasn't great but wasn't as awful as you're saying...

you must be one of those movie snobs...

12/10/2007 8:53:51 AM

it was FREE. and anything FREE can't be that bad. However, when I paid $9 to see the movie in theaters, it was the worst movie I'd seen all year.

12/10/2007 9:57:12 AM

No Arab, I think spiderman3 was the most femme superhero to date.

12/10/2007 10:23:53 AM

hmm....Flight of the Phoenix, Hart's War, or Species?

12/10/2007 10:31:24 AM

Hart's War

12/10/2007 10:57:57 AM

Species has boobz

12/10/2007 12:42:57 PM

he wears eye liner for gods sake!

I seek more clarity!

maybe in hd her teeth are straight!



im just kidding i give that movie a 9






out of 100

12/10/2007 12:50:34 PM

isn't that the scifi movie where natasha henstridge is an alien trying to get pregnant by any means possible?

how could that be a bad movie?

12/10/2007 1:11:02 PM

b/c instead of hot human(iod) sex you get wild tentacle sex (performed on the man)

12/10/2007 1:18:43 PM