What is it that you do, Mr./Ms. pack_bryan?

10/28/2011 11:32:04 AM

^^ the level of maturity of this protest and it's current members. /thread

good job pryderi. hey grayfox, i'm trying to have a discussion about why the federal government needs to get out of your and everybodys life here and not destroy the country. that's what i do.

but keep trying to




[Edited on October 28, 2011 at 11:35 AM. Reason : ,]

10/28/2011 11:32:41 AM

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"that are simply part of shaping the system to their benefit"

[Edited on October 28, 2011 at 11:34 AM. Reason : iow, i have no problem with wealth or wealthy people. i have a problem with corruption]

10/28/2011 11:33:20 AM

^ i do to. except i have a problem with corruption on all levels. not just corporations.

the federal government is corrupt in it's position to take capital gains, and capital losses and socialize the losses into bailouts that YOU qntmfred and I pay taxes on every single day.

the banks should have failed. but the corrupt govt took control and didn't let them fail. they were FDIC insured and every single person at those failed banks would get guaranteed 250k.

if you get rid of the corruption in the federal govt you are at step 1 to be able to move to step 2 which is to control and rid the corporations of corruption.


[Edited on October 28, 2011 at 11:40 AM. Reason : ,]

10/28/2011 11:37:59 AM

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"I'd guess 85% of those people don't even know what they're protest against."

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"if you get rid of the corruption in the federal govt you are at step 1 to be able to move to step 2 which is to control and rid the corporations of corruption."

You do realize that it's the corporations that are corrupting the government, right?

10/28/2011 2:51:25 PM

10/28/2011 3:46:07 PM

O hi will smith


LMAO i posted this without even reading the note, i just looked at the dudes eyes

[Edited on October 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM. Reason : f]

10/28/2011 3:46:28 PM

AHAHA WHITE PEOPLE HAND!

10/28/2011 4:15:36 PM

10/28/2011 4:23:57 PM

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"the question becomes why is your movement dead set that everybody not on your side is a racist?"

the main question is why are you such a fucking racist

10/30/2011 10:56:35 AM

10/30/2011 10:59:21 PM

ibt pack_bryan rant about the violent protesters literally impaling people's heads on stakes

10/30/2011 11:23:04 PM

^^ That doesn't say much good for the protesters.

[Edited on October 30, 2011 at 11:41 PM. Reason : fuck 'em, let 'em eat cake]

10/30/2011 11:41:07 PM

it's a metaphor, duke

10/30/2011 11:47:28 PM

well yeah, but they still haven't accomplished anything

the cartoon seems to be saying that it doesn't matter if the idiot masses are idiots and have no idea what they want or why, and leadership should cave to them just on the grounds that they are pissed...but that's just not the case.

10/31/2011 6:55:20 AM

It is saying pretty obviously that they want a change in leadership.

10/31/2011 6:58:22 AM

we got a change in leadership, and they are out in the streets right now obviously disgruntled

WHAT-THE-FUCK-DO-THEY...WANT

just changing something doesnt make things better. we vote against one form of change in favor of the other

[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 12:21 PM. Reason : d]

10/31/2011 12:20:51 PM

My friends costume. It was hilarious everyone loved it and it was true for the night b/c we rolled up skipped the line and people in the vip line which pissed off people haha. we all got to be the 1% for the night. anyways. thought it fit this thread.

10/31/2011 12:31:33 PM

omg thats the best story ever

10/31/2011 12:33:11 PM

^^^ Exactly. They're playing pin the tail on the donkey

or pin the donkey on the country

or something


but if you don't even know what the fucking problem is, let alone have any ideas of how you'd like to fix it, you pretty much need to go home and shut the fuck up.

There are a couple of HUGE problems, but the occupy protesters are a total disaster. They mostly don't understand the issues, and in the cases of those who do, are diluting their message with overwhelming amounts of leftist bullshittery.

Also, you can say that they aren't anti-capitalist, and aren't engaging in class warfare, and whatever else, but that's a fucking copout. They have extremely strong and even overt and explicitely stated trends toward those things.

10/31/2011 4:49:09 PM

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"WHAT-THE-FUCK-DO-THEY...WANT"

WHY-THE-FUCK-IS-THIS...HYPHENATED

^If they were a "total disaster," I don't think the protests would have as much momentum as they currently have. They must be doing or saying something that is resonating with a lot of people in the country. And as Cornel West and others have pointed out, their complaints may sound too general or vague to some, but that's only because the issue they're dealing with is much too large to whittle down into a few tidy demands.

[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 5:13 PM. Reason : /]

10/31/2011 5:07:54 PM

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"we got a change in leadership, and they are out in the streets right now obviously disgruntled WHAT-THE-FUCK-DO-THEY...WANT just changing something doesnt make things better. we vote against one form of change in favor of the other"

Look, Americans, by and large, have two options when they vote for President. They can either vote for a Republican, or they can vote for a Republican who hates abortions. That's it, those are your only two options.

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"Also, you can say that they aren't anti-capitalist, and aren't engaging in class warfare, and whatever else, but that's a fucking copout. They have extremely strong and even overt and explicitely stated trends toward those things."

The class warfare argument is as equally lazy of an opinion. Corporate interests have been pilfering the American middle class for 30 years, but somehow nobody ever accuses them of class warfare. Just look at who has been picking up the tab and who's benefiting from US domestic and foreign policy, and tell me with a straight face that these "liberal wackos" are engaging in class warfare.


also, chit chat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8-3Ui0uELU


[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 5:48 PM. Reason : ]

10/31/2011 5:37:18 PM

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/beyond-outrageous-%E2%80%93-steven-j-baum-halloween-party-photos-show-appalling-lack-respect-tow


thought about putting this in the halloween thread but i think it fits here also

10/31/2011 6:48:50 PM

http://life.salon.com/2011/10/29/out_of_touch_the_cluelessness_of_the_1_percent/slide_show/

Check out the industries these job creators are keeping afloat

Thank god we won't lose the solid gold shoelace makers

10/31/2011 10:56:20 PM

^you're right.... rich people should give their money to other people for nothing rather than asking for a product or service in exchange for their money.

If they bought cigarets would you feel differently?

What about a Cadillac or Hummer?

What if they bought 30 Ipads??

What should rich people spend their money on??? Man.. I sure wish the Govt would just tell everyone where their money should go.. THEN we'd have a solid democracy!!

10/31/2011 11:08:55 PM

Relevant.

10/31/2011 11:10:38 PM

I'm not gonna lie, I want to know what features that toilet has.

10/31/2011 11:11:36 PM

Point being, it doesn't create any more jobs to buy a $1500 pair of jeans than a $50 pair or a $15,000 pair of shoelaces than a $1 pair so that argument is asinine

10/31/2011 11:17:00 PM

Maybe they should buy cigarets though

10/31/2011 11:17:54 PM

Yup you got me... asinine.

If I buy a $1500 pair of jeans that company can make $1480 worth of stuff with that profit. They can pay their employees, who can buy lots of stuff from other people.

Man... you sure do know a lot about economics

10/31/2011 11:25:38 PM

lol yeah I'm sure there's not a single article of designer clothing made in a sweatshop

10/31/2011 11:33:56 PM

So.... I'll ask (a little more directly than before) what should they buy!?!? Or should they just save their money? Or... should they loan it out to people with less money so they can buy stuff? Or... what?




[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 11:43 PM. Reason : .]

10/31/2011 11:41:46 PM

I mean whatever they want I guess

I'm just saying they aren't job creators just because they buy expensive shit

10/31/2011 11:42:48 PM

[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 11:46 PM. Reason : when i get rich i'm gonna buy me a borg grass spaceship house]

10/31/2011 11:45:52 PM

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"If I buy a $1500 pair of jeans that company can make $1480 worth of stuff with that profit. They can pay their employees, who can buy lots of stuff from other people. "

If you pay $1500 for a pair of jeans that only cost $20 to make, you fuckin' overpaid for those jeans.


although, perhaps getting rich people to overpay for shitty clothes would make a good business plan.

[Edited on November 1, 2011 at 1:00 AM. Reason : ]

11/1/2011 12:49:50 AM

WAAH!

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"Bank Of America CEO: Stop Yelling About The Bad Stuff We've Done Brian Moynihan needs a better public relations manager. Is Bank of America getting bullied by critics? At a global town hall meeting last week the Bank of America CEO expressed his frustration about all the criticism his bank has been getting lately. Moynihan says all the bad mouthing leaves him feeling “incensed”, according to a report from Bloomberg News. Talking to employees in North Carolina last week Moynihan said, “I, like you, get a little incensed when you think about how much good all of you do, whether it’s volunteer hours, charitable giving we do, serving clients and customers well.” His reaction to critics: “You ought to think a little about that before you start yelling at us.”"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2011/10/26/bank-of-america-ceo-stop-yelling-about-the-bad-stuff-weve-done/

11/1/2011 12:57:34 AM

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"Yup you got me... asinine. If I buy a $1500 pair of jeans that company can make $1480 worth of stuff with that profit. They can pay their employees, who can buy lots of stuff from other people. Man... you sure do know a lot about economics "

Yeah...That's exactly how it works.
They're not paying multiple marketing managers six figure salaries or giving a cut to the designer himself.
They're not dropping massive amounts of money into television and print advertisements where they have to compete for space with much larger and more established companies such as the auto manufacturers, industrial companies, watch/jewelry makers, and much larger clothing companies than their own.
They're not paying reasonable wages to the people who manufacture their goods while trying to compete with companies that don't live by the same code of ethics.
They're not dealing with supply chains or manufacturers who make promises and then fail to deliver a product that is on time or up to par.

They just pay $20 for a pair of jeans to be made and then they get $1480 profit. That's exactly how it works.

11/1/2011 1:13:02 AM

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"Richmond removed protesters from the city's plaza using bulldozers to scoop up tents and belongings left behind."

w.


t.



f.

11/1/2011 4:56:44 AM

good.

11/1/2011 9:53:45 AM

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"Yeah...That's exactly how it works. They're not paying multiple marketing managers six figure salaries or giving a cut to the designer himself. They're not dropping massive amounts of money into television and print advertisements where they have to compete for space with much larger and more established companies such as the auto manufacturers, industrial companies, watch/jewelry makers, and much larger clothing companies than their own. They're not paying reasonable wages to the people who manufacture their goods while trying to compete with companies that don't live by the same code of ethics. They're not dealing with supply chains or manufacturers who make promises and then fail to deliver a product that is on time or up to par. They just pay $20 for a pair of jeans to be made and then they get $1480 profit. That's exactly how it works. "

I've never seen an ad for $1500 jeans on TV.

Most likely if you buy $1500 jeans, a very small amount of people get paid that money compared to other products.

$1500 jeans aren't the enemy of OWS though.

11/1/2011 10:30:37 AM

http://playspent.org/

Would be curious to see how some of you feel about this game

11/1/2011 11:30:40 AM

^^^^ That's how we roll in the Dirty South.

11/1/2011 11:38:07 AM

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"Yeah...That's exactly how it works. They're not paying multiple marketing managers six figure salaries or giving a cut to the designer himself. They're not dropping massive amounts of money into television and print advertisements where they have to compete for space with much larger and more established companies such as the auto manufacturers, industrial companies, watch/jewelry makers, and much larger clothing companies than their own. They're not paying reasonable wages to the people who manufacture their goods while trying to compete with companies that don't live by the same code of ethics. They're not dealing with supply chains or manufacturers who make promises and then fail to deliver a product that is on time or up to par. They just pay $20 for a pair of jeans to be made and then they get $1480 profit. That's exactly how it works."

The point is they use that "profit" for 100 other things, which cycles money back into the economy. (and pays people) However yes... eventually that dollar gets to a foreign market where labor is cheaper (ethical argument as you please) and OUT of the US economy. But that logic doesn't just apply to the 1%. It applies to all of us... so the idea that the Government creates jobs any better than the private sector [at least using the "this is what they spend money on" argument] isn't a very accurate assessment.

11/1/2011 8:58:37 PM

No, but if the middle class actually has money they can afford to buy a lot more, less expensive, items, which actually drives demand.

11/1/2011 9:01:32 PM

itt: poor people with no talents or work ethic who want more welfare because they are less evolved as human beings and living off the borrowed time of the brilliant minds who made it possible for them to be alive period.


lol your time is almost over. survival of the fittest is a bitch, and it's finally blowing up in your face.


you're extinct in 3........2......

11/1/2011 10:16:12 PM

What do you do pack_bryan?

11/1/2011 10:23:21 PM

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"itt: poor people with no talents or work ethic who want more welfare because they are less evolved as human beings and living off the borrowed time of the brilliant minds who made it possible for them to be alive period."

hahahahahhahahahah

11/1/2011 10:38:12 PM

convincing response


why don't you go outside and 'occupy' Actionpants? too big of a hypocrite?


those corporations made me take out a loan i can't afford
the government made me get a loan for college
i can't think for myself to find a skill needed for a job
i live in the top wealth the world has ever known and i am sitting here sulking outside complaining about other successful people



"Mark Epstein, owner of the Milk Street Cafe at 40 Wall Street, just let 21 employees go.

The reason? The barricades police have set up throughout Wall Street as a consequence of the ongoing demonstration."


[Edited on November 1, 2011 at 10:56 PM. Reason : ,]

11/1/2011 10:51:44 PM

Well I'm currently in Northwest Arkansas and I am unaware of any movements out here. Also I've been working for the past 13 hours so

I'm just curious man I thought we were bros!

[Edited on November 1, 2011 at 11:01 PM. Reason : ]

11/1/2011 11:00:31 PM

11/1/2011 11:49:56 PM