Considering pneumonia can be contagious pretty fucked up to be out hugging 911 widows

9/12/2016 10:40:09 AM

key words being "can be" ... pneumonia can be a number of things and unless you are her doctor you can't know whether what she has is contagious or not. In a case like this a normal person would generally assume that someone would only go out and hug strangers if they know they aren't contagious, but feel free to make your own conjectures

9/12/2016 10:50:43 AM

apparently it's spreading in her campaign, so nm

9/12/2016 11:43:30 AM

I didn't think pneumonia was contagious. I always thought pneumonia was a secondary infection brought on by things like severe colds, bronchitis, etc.

9/12/2016 12:03:30 PM

My mom was diagnosed with pneumonia recently and if my memory of the situation is correct it's a pretty nebulous terms that more or less means there's a spot on the lung due to any number of reasons (doing more research this "spot" is the xray...there's fluid in the lungs and pus and shit causing it to look like that on xray). They put her on some general antibiotics but couldn't treat anything specific until they got more test results back on what the actual problem was.

Again, I'm not a doctor, and this could all be wrong, but it's what I remember

[Edited on September 12, 2016 at 12:49 PM. Reason : asdf]

[Edited on September 12, 2016 at 12:49 PM. Reason : d]

9/12/2016 12:35:52 PM

Looks like Clinton campaign is saying they'll release more detailed medical a later this week.

Probably in response to Trump saying the same.

9/12/2016 12:49:50 PM

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"it seems like health should be a legitimate topic"

Maybe if it were being discussed in a reasonable way, and at a level proportionate to its importance. But we're not choosing the chief of a hunter-gatherer tribe here. Strength and vitality are not really critical factors.

JFK largely hid his own crippling health problems, and while I think he's a largely overrated President, nobody can reasonably attribute his shortcomings to his health.

FDR tried to keep people from noticing that he couldn't fucking walk. Regardless of what you think of his policies, though, nobody would call him a weak or ineffective president.

Abraham Lincoln was a veritable shit salad of health issues, starting with a 24 hour coma induced by a horse kick to the head, carrying through a couple of bouts of malaria, smallpox, and clinical depression. That's just the stuff we're pretty sure of. There are also possibilities of mercury poisoning, syphilis, and multiple endocrine neoplasia (tumors on various glands).

And a lot of people were hemming and hawing about John McCain's age back in 2008, and (as I predicted) he's still alive and kicking.

So you can talk about health and age, but these have got to pale in comparison to conversations about judgment and competence. But that's not a thing that's often allowed to happen by the side doing the talking. Clinton's health has now dominated news cycles, which I don't think is reasonable. And it's all the less so given that the alternative is even older and male. It's not like we're being faced with the 2008 choice of young, energetic Obama and old, curmudgeonly McCain. We've got two aged, flabby gas-bags. Arguing about which one is healthier is almost farcical.

Quote :

"Considering pneumonia can be contagious pretty fucked up to be out hugging 911 widows"

"Pneuomia" is not contagious because it isn't a disease. It's a condition caused by diseases which may or may not be contagious.

[Edited on September 12, 2016 at 2:43 PM. Reason : ]

9/12/2016 2:40:08 PM

9/12/2016 2:50:37 PM

Those pictures always drive me crazy as they have no backing up. Like the 'meme' one. As I recall, that was a Pepe, right? Just . . . come on. There is plenty of material with which to work without grasping straws.

9/12/2016 3:15:34 PM

the rarest of pepes in fact

9/12/2016 3:18:23 PM

Always fun when the mainstream media tries to report on internet culture.

9/12/2016 3:22:00 PM

^^^

That's the kind of dumbass clickbait shit that no educated person should believe and spread... It's propaganda. That shit, and the people that share it, are why humanity is doomed.

9/12/2016 3:35:16 PM

Jesus. Where did that come from? Usuncut, Occupy Democrats, or The other 98% on Facebook?

9/12/2016 3:38:51 PM

Although not all of if hit this week, most of that stuff is an accurate representation.

9/12/2016 4:35:20 PM

The criticism of Yellen is justified, IMO. The lack of action by the fed at this point in rates is only to prop up the markets. When Jamie Dimon is calling for rates to be raised you know it's time.

It probably should have happened during the summer, it definitely is time now, but for political reasons they won't touch it until post election.

9/12/2016 5:07:45 PM

Thank god the FED uses evidence-based decision making instead of operating off the instincts of criminal "billionaires"

9/12/2016 6:53:25 PM

so how about that body double, can eleusis farva us some images to compare?

9/12/2016 7:50:13 PM

Quote :

"That's the kind of dumbass clickbait shit that no educated person should believe and spread... It's propaganda. That shit, and the people that share it, are why humanity is doomed. "

eh, the Clinton side was basically 100% correct. so there's that JCE bot

9/12/2016 8:47:26 PM

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"basically 100% correct"

sounds like something someone would say who believes that other "mostly true" "somewhat false" infographic posted on here a couple weeks ago

9/12/2016 10:24:33 PM

lettuce discuss the factual discrepancies present then

9/12/2016 10:28:35 PM

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/

Christ, this link is so bad it just gave me pneumonia.

9/13/2016 9:21:02 AM

I'd like to see all of these people complaining about Clinton's health when they are 70, get pneumonia, and keep up a grueling presidential campaign.

Most people don't know what it's like to have pneumonia, and even more people don't know what it's like to have it at that age. Hell I bet some people half her age couldn't keep up with her.

9/13/2016 9:30:26 AM

I couldn't keep up with either Trump or her at MY age.

9/13/2016 9:49:14 AM

Are you not half her age?

Sure, we've never had a candidate get sick in recent memory, but it can happen. Their human.

Now what I do find puzzling is just her campaign's response to the issues.

9/13/2016 11:17:43 AM

Reagan def had dementia.

9/13/2016 11:19:47 AM

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"Now what I do find puzzling is just her campaign's response to the issues."

Really? The bitch is fucking sick with pneumonia and she's in a tight race with Donald Trump. Donald fucking Trump. Literally anything she says/does at this point is the basis of a crazy conspiracy theory that people are willing to accept without proof. If it were a normal campaign, this would likely be a non-issue, but because it isn't, every single thing she does has to be either controlled or spun.

9/13/2016 11:29:06 AM

Yep the fact people have been saying she is dying and has Parkinsons for weeks if not months now makes the decision understandable. They also should have known though that if they tried to hide it or downplay it those people would just latch on even harder, which is what has happened.

9/13/2016 11:34:18 AM

^This.

It isn't like they don't know that every right wing hack is just chomping at the bit to add credence to their theories. Any obfuscation by the campaign adds the appearance of a cover-up at this point.

9/13/2016 12:30:57 PM

One of my conspiracy loving friends says she has https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyloidosis

9/13/2016 1:11:07 PM

Oh yea? That sounds like one of the diseases House's doctors always suggested but was never the case. Like lupis.

9/13/2016 1:27:20 PM

^^ fascinating, that doesn't seem to fit at all

9/13/2016 1:29:59 PM

My favorite new conspiracy is the Hillary body double

9/13/2016 2:52:07 PM

That's a fun one. Heard Glenn Beck talking that up yesterday.

9/13/2016 2:54:29 PM

Even if there really was a body double, so what? We act like that's never been a possibility with a highly controversial figure.

9/13/2016 3:09:32 PM

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"so how about that body double, can eleusis farva us some images to compare?"

I said that shit jokingly a couple days ago. I didn't think it would actually turn into a conspiracy this week, although I think it's the Correct the Record crowd pushing that story just because of how dumb it sounds.

In retrospect, last weeks events seemed more akin to "Weekend at Bernie's" than the movie "Dave".

9/13/2016 3:15:34 PM

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-news-edits-out-embarrassing-verbal-slip-in-bill-clinton-interview/

This is a perfect illustration of why people don't trust the media and why places like CBS, CNN, etc. get accused of carrying water for the establishment in general and Clinton in particular during this election.

9/13/2016 5:59:19 PM

True.

9/13/2016 6:01:02 PM

OMG you a just a troll posting Russian propaganda

9/13/2016 6:05:12 PM

they showed the unedited clip on CBS This Morning and online.

9/13/2016 6:17:43 PM

Yes, but they aired it edited on Monday night. Does anybody think the unedited clip is shown today if not for watchdogs and bloggers?

As shitty as a lot of the new media and meta coverage sites can be they've become necessary because we just don't have a 4th estate.

Look no further than this upcoming Dr. Oz and Donald Trump "surprise" physical results reveal CNN has been plugging. No chance this is a surprise. They've sold their souls and any semblance center of objectivity for ratings.

[Edited on September 13, 2016 at 6:26 PM. Reason : Vzbndjjs]

9/13/2016 6:25:31 PM

The actual point that Hillary has become severely dehydrated multiple times survived the cut intact. Faux outrage is the only thing this is a perfect illustration of.

9/13/2016 7:09:09 PM

That dehydration thing is weird. I read an article from Politico about her staff talking about he she almost refuses to drink water. Just water. She'll drink Gatorade and other stuff.

Quote :

"Clinton’s pneumonia isn’t severe, according to two people with direct knowledge of the candidate’s condition, and she is expected to return to the campaign trail as early as this week. The real issue is chronic dehydration, exacerbated by her lung problem and Clinton’s reluctance to drink water, which has become a source of tension with her staff. “She won’t drink water, and you try telling Hillary Clinton she has to drink water,” said a person in her orbit – who described a frenzied rehydration mission that included multiple bottles of water and Gatorade. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-to-release-more-medical-records-228028"

Is she afraid of fluoridation, like General Ripper?

break break

But about passing out and not remembering. I've almost passed out once in my life, about 5 years ago, because back pain I could not assuage.

I remember it vividly.

Have any of you passed out in your life (non-drunk related)?

Have any of you passed out so much in your life you can't recall some of them?

In any event. She's still at home resting, and some in the media (Cokie Roberts on NPR, former DNC Chair, etc.) are bringing up the possibility of replacing her.

How did they get away with that? How could her campaign not destroy them for talking about it?!

9/13/2016 9:46:20 PM

The one thing that the conspiracy theorists are talking about that does seem to make some sense is why she wasn't taken to the hospital. Clearly Hillary wants to do everything to keep things private but that was a little surprising

9/14/2016 12:11:17 AM

There was a couple of years in my late 20s where I would have 2-3 day periods where I would feel very near fainting once or twice a day. I think it was related to dehydration and coffee intake. I got that sorted and it hasn't been an issue since (it wasn't much of an issue then, to be honest).

^because it really isn't a big deal. If she had been at home, all she'd probably do would be just to relax. It just so happened that to get somewhere cool and relaxing, she had to walk. She probably didn't know she was close to fainting when she stood up. If it were me and I stood up like that and felt faint (it has happened to me numerous times) I would just sit back down for 5 minutes. She probably thought that would look suspicious and probably figured the feeling would just go away.

[Edited on September 14, 2016 at 12:18 AM. Reason : not everything requires a trip to the hospital. especially considering she prob. got a housecall]

9/14/2016 12:13:25 AM

kids are tryin to dance like hilary

https://youtu.be/TRBLmogRL4c?t=11s

[Edited on September 14, 2016 at 7:02 AM. Reason : g]

9/14/2016 7:01:24 AM

The issue isnt that Clinton fainted, it's that we only know about it because a non journalist caught it with his phone. The mainstream media wouldn't dare cover her fainting. As we've seen with HuffPo journalists and Dr. Phil, you get fired for even questioning her health.

It's not a conspiracy theory that the media is biased AF, that Clinton is dishonest AF. That's why this becomes a bigger deal than just "she's human, she's sick". You hacks can get excited about her opening a pickle jar, but the media can only cover for her so much.

9/14/2016 12:46:09 PM

Colin Powell ftw

9/14/2016 1:10:28 PM

How many deplorable memes have you retweeted in the last 5 days? Is the David Duke one your favorite one? Which pepe do you prefer?

9/14/2016 1:11:55 PM

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"Have any of you passed out in your life (non-drunk related)?"

Yep. Once I was riding BART(subway) to work and it was insanely packed and the heat from inside the car was unbearable. I remembered feeling really dizzy and apparently I collapsed and passed out. I work up with BART medics asking me basic questions about myself and they gave me some water. They wanted to draw blood and follow up, but I felt fine once I had some water. I was 27 at the time and in perfect health.

Another time I was at the doctor's office for a follow up visit to have stitches removed from a work related injury (I was 23 and a bartender and I almost severed my finger when a glass bottle shattered in my hand). As they were removing the stitches, I felt super woozy and apparently I passed out from it.

These are both isolated incidents that I chalk up to nothing more than being dehydrated/overheated/having stitches removed.

[Edited on September 14, 2016 at 1:53 PM. Reason : .]

9/14/2016 1:51:47 PM

Damn dude, I hate to break it to you, but you clearly have parkinsons disease.

9/14/2016 3:32:51 PM