rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Bump for Marcus Rashford getting free meals for an entire Nation's children. Well done. 6/16/2020 8:56:24 AM |
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6/17/2020 12:24:05 PM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
3 months later...same old Arsenal. not sure why i expected anything different
[Edited on June 17, 2020 at 4:32 PM. Reason : d] 6/17/2020 4:32:04 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
What a wild day of soccer
- No goal on an obvious goal - penalty red card - arsenal multiple injuries in first 15 min - Ederson just destroying his own defender 6/17/2020 5:14:53 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Fair point. Spurs had a great 30 min spell after their goal but like typical mourinho they didn’t really create much. Pogba and Bruno together looked lively. Thought we could have and should have snatched a winner late but can’t fault the performance. Fair point, Rashford looked a bit rusty though and could have even better. 6/19/2020 5:14:04 PM |
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Arsenalolllllllllll 6/20/2020 12:10:33 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Pulisic! 6/21/2020 2:58:05 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Blech nothing going forward at all
Oh well
5 pts 6/21/2020 3:52:22 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
Same old Chelsea issues tons of possession, lacking that final pass in the final third. Defense still shaky allowing goals against run of play. Can't play like this on Thursday, thankful cushion is still 5 points. 6/22/2020 7:50:29 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Liverpool definitely looked like they hadn't played in 4 months. Man that was ugly. 6/22/2020 11:44:39 AM |
heelfan All American 3269 Posts user info edit post |
Level on goal difference. Watch out, Liverpool! 6/22/2020 11:04:46 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
^No Aguero for a while so you guys are really going to need Jesus if you are going to catch Liverpool 6/23/2020 9:23:32 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Going to be a close end to the season this for top 4. Looking at the fixtures for 3 to 6 it seems around 4 or 5 points will separate 3 to 6 as well. United have the easiest run in on paper but after Sheffield tomorrow the next three are Brighton, Bournemouth and Villa who are all in the relegation battle and arguably harder to play them at this moment.
Chelsea has the hardest fixture list left and the others really needed them to drop points against Villa. Chelsea has just about enough quality to get them to 3rd I think although I don't believe Chelsea is actually a better team than United or Leicester. They have done well to beat the lower tier teams, something United struggles with and that should land them in good stead for CL. Obviously they will only get better heading into next season but they did need that investment to maintain their level at the very least.
If United win the next 4 I think we will take that 3rd spot. Signs are encouraging but De Gea has let us down hugely. Against Everton and now Tottenham two huge mistakes that could cost us top 4. Ironic.
Leicester: 54 points Brighton - 3 Everton (A) - 1 Palace - 3 Arsenal (A) - 0 Bournemouth (A) - 1 Sheff Utd - 1 Tottenham (A) - 3 Man United - 0
Total: 66 points
Chelsea: 51 points City - 1 West Ham (A) - 3 Watford - 3 Palace (A) - 0 Sheff Utd (A) - 3 Norwich - 3 Liverpool (A) - 3 Wolves - 1
Total: 68 points
Man United: 46 points Sheff Utd - 3 Brigton (A) - 3 Bournemouth - 3 Villa (A) - 1 Southampton - 3 Palace (A) - 0 West Ham - 3 Leicester (A) - 3
Total: 65 points
Wolves: 46 points Bournemouth - 3 Villa (A) - 3 Arsenal - 3 Sheffield Utd (A) - 0 Everton - 1 Burnley (A) - 3 Crystal Palace - 3 Chelsea(A) - 1
Total: 63 points 6/23/2020 10:01:50 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^^have Laporte back too though. I said to a buddy yesterday that Liverpool may need every one of the 5 points. City winning out wouldn't surprise me at all. 6/23/2020 10:10:06 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
lol Liverpool losing the title after such a huge lead would be gold. They would never hear the end of it after being cocky twats all season. Too little too late though. City can win out sure but I also don't think Liverpool will struggle to get 5 points out of Arsenal (3 right there), Villa, Palace, Burnley and Brighton. Its a pipe dream. 6/23/2020 10:22:27 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I know the long break has changed a lot of things but I just don't see Leicester falling out of top 3. 6/23/2020 3:40:19 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
That's fair. However Leciester's form over the last 6 matches (including 2 after the break) have them in 13th when compared to everyone else. 6 in 6 is very poor compared to 11 for United and Wolves and 10 for Chelsea. They have picked up 10 points in the last 10 matches as well and are 14th on that form table. United & Chelsea in the same time frame have picked up 15 and Wolves picked up 16.
They struggled to find some form in the last two matches as well. That's likely down to rust but that doesn't bode well for them if they need more than 2 or 3 matches to find that form. So just think Chelsea Wolves and United if they maintain their consistency can take that spot. 6/23/2020 8:13:24 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Right but United haven't won more than 2 games in a row all season either. It's gonna be tough because I think they really need 6 wins out of 8 to even have a shot.
Amd I guess I meant CL spots for Leicester, not just 3rd because Chelsea is closer than I thought. 6/24/2020 8:03:54 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Right but United haven't won more than 2 games in a row all season either." |
Well thats tough because we literally did that two weeks before football was called off. Beat Chelsea away 2-0 and Watford 3-0. I am also not just talking about United. My predictions have us finishing 5th. Its more that Leicester are in serious danger of falling out of the top 4 if they can't fix their form and given the consistency of the three teams below them.
We will see how United end the season and Chelsea as well given the fixture list. There should be no excuse to at least get 16 points out of the 24 available. I think even that would be a little disappointing and realistically we should be aiming for 20 given the strength of the fixtures left. I am more interested to see how we continue to play and develop with Rashford and Pogba back on the pitch though. If we play like we did Spurs 2nd half for 90% of the 8 matches left and come up short then so be it.6/24/2020 11:26:31 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
More than 2, as in 3 games in a row. Not saying it can't happen but they're definitely up against it. I think Wolves has as good as chance as any team right now of sneaking into 4th.
regarding Leicester, two draws isn't ideal but I watched both of their games since the restart and it wasn't completely terrible. They should have beaten Watford and although Brighton was a bit closer, they were comfortable throughout aside from the missed Maupay penalty. 6/24/2020 11:45:56 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
I mean if we are dealing with hypothetical we should have beaten Everton and Tottenham and kept 5 clean sheets if De Gea didn't have two brain farts. That would have been 5 wins on the trot from Tottenham (A), Man City, Everton (A), Watford and Chelsea (A). I would say its a pretty good return even as it stands from that fixture list. To me you are too focused on United and slightly disrespecting us but I am just judging off your responses and of course my United bias.
Again, I am just looking at recent form and all three United, Chelsea and Wolves have been around the same consistency over the last 10 matches. I am clearly stating that these three teams are more poised to finish 3rd and 4th respectively which includes Wolves. If its hard for United surely its just as hard for Wolves or Chelsea who is only 5 points ahead and both of them with a arguably harder fixture list. Either way that last match day is going to be very interesting as things stand with Chelsea v Wolves and Leicester v United. 3rd and 4th could come down to those two matches on the last day. 6/24/2020 11:57:04 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
I like this united team and balance. I will be very curious to see how this midfield gets on. Matic provides good defensive cover and allows Pogba and Bruno to push up. Bruno's work rate is immense there as well and I hope it allows Pogba more freedom. I think Greenwood over James is also a better option and brings some much needed quality to the right hand sided. I like James but his final product is not good enough and he needs to improve. We desperately need someone like Sancho on the right and let Greenwood develop.
Toughest fixture left on paper and 3 points today would be massive. Ole and the team have to win the next 3 or 4 to set the tone though. Definitely nervous today. 6/24/2020 12:15:14 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Only a week in and already disrespect
Also curious what paper has home Sheffield tougher than away Leicester 6/24/2020 12:27:34 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Not even a week and the hard on for every team but United is clear from the responses above. Typical. 6/24/2020 12:40:57 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
lol DISRESPECT 6/24/2020 2:08:03 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
It’s ok. We’ll do our talking the pitch. Good professional performance against the exact type of team we struggle against. We are 2 DDG mistakes away from 6 straight clean sheets. 7 more left, let’s get on with more of the same. 6/24/2020 2:51:10 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
hey wazza, respect these nuts 6/24/2020 4:30:22 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Dominant
All 4 goals just gorgeous
2pts. Go Chelsea!
^^I wish you would leave your shit for the pitch.
That said Healthy Pogba obviously changes the equation for manu 6/24/2020 5:47:55 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
And what shit did I start exactly? Saying that Leicester might fall out of the top 4 and united, wolves and chelsea are likelier to finish top 4? Lmao. The hard on for Rodgers is real. 6/24/2020 6:35:44 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
I had to google that, forgot he coached there 6/24/2020 8:07:41 PM |
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Quote : | "Klopp: "I cannot remember a 4-0 after 80 minutes, and four players chasing a ball like it's the only ball left on this planet. This is us."
#LFC" |
6/24/2020 10:42:38 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
lol I keep forgetting that's why wazza is so anti-Leicester. The accusation about bias from Liverpool fans is really just his.
If I were United, I would go after Ndidi big time this summer. I know Grealish/Maddison are the ones we always hear about but now we see Pogba/Bruno working together, I think a true DM makes more sense. 6/25/2020 8:23:24 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Anti Leicester because I think looking at the form table it makes them the likeliest to fall out of the top 4? This whole conversation just typifies the ridiculousness of Liverpool fans on here. I have given you objective evidence to back up my thoughts and all you have come up with is that I am anti leicester and spouting shit?
Everyone and their mom knows we need a DM, that is why Matic was given the extension for depth. We also need to get rid of Periera and Lingard though and I'd rather we sign VDB to replace them over Graelish or Maddison, both of whom are in my opinion not worth the outlay.
RW (Sancho), DM, Depth at CAM (VDB), and CB would be an ideal window but I would also be happy if we get Sancho and someone like VDB. 6/25/2020 10:08:22 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
It's wild you think looking at the form table alone (especially after months off) makes you "objective".
Fyi if United finishes in 3rd and Leicester finishes, I don't know, 40th, nobody here will care but you. It would be kinda funny from a tww perspective if manu collapsed, but otherwise I don't spare a thought for any non Liverpool team but City. United is almost 40 pts back, making it to 3rd will have zero effect on my mood.
Btw a TRUE objective rater (regardless of whether you agree with their ratings), 538, currently project manu at 5th but have 3-4-5 at 66-65-64, which basically means it's anyone's game. they also rate Manu far higher than Leicester and have most of the season. You hate xG but it's pretty consistently said that manu have been unlucky (another term you hate) this season. Leicester and Liverpool have overperformed their expected points, Liverpool wildly so. That's just the way it goes sometimes, it doesn't diminish the accomplishment to be eyes open about the role of luck, every winning team uses it and needs it.
[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 10:56 AM. Reason : Having Allison in goal doesn't hurt though] 6/25/2020 10:54:21 AM |
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[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 11:11 AM. Reason : just because]
6/25/2020 11:06:20 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "United is almost 40 pts back, making it to 3rd will have zero effect on my mood." |
I mean I would hope we wouldn't impact your mood. None of what I said was focused on United. In fact I specifically mentioned to aimorris that he was too focused on United and my discussion was clearly about how exciting of a finish it could be for top 4 with Leicester' form and the form of the three teams below them. Yes I did say according to me it is disrespectful what was said about United and I even caveated that by saying MY united bias. I guess I should stop spouting shit that discusses the chances of 4 teams finishing in two spots with the only objective evidence we have despite the break. And yea I back my team to try to finish in the top 4, excuse me for having the gall to back my team which is clearly on an upward trajectory regardless of the arm chair opinions here.
Quote : | "Btw a TRUE objective rater (regardless of whether you agree with their ratings), 538, currently project manu at 5th but have 3-4-5 at 66-65-64, which basically means it's anyone's game." |
Literally what I said, I have 68-66-65 and United finishing 5th. LMAO. You guys are daft as fuck.
[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 12:54 PM. Reason : a]6/25/2020 12:53:17 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Yea i mean you started it by saying aimorris was showing "disrespect" and "having a hardon" for other teams whatever the fuck that means, so I guess im not sure what set you off if everyone agrees.
Nobody sad a single bad word about united, or really much of a good word about other teams.
Maybe you just have your hackles up bc you're mad your owner hasn't died in a plane crash yet. I had forgotten about that until now.
[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 1:10 PM. Reason : I also forgot 5th was a CL spot this season, lol at City] 6/25/2020 1:07:55 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
hmm saying hypotheticals about Leicester having two bad games but not terrible and saying Wolves are likelier to finish 4th in the same sentence that United would struggle to win 6 out of 8 despite Wolves having the harder run in and also needing similar wins given that we are on the same points....
Lol if United had played the way Leicester has since the restart the memes would be golden on here. I watched them too and Leicester was down right abhorrent and couldn't create a chance to save their lives. Against teams like Watford and Brighton.
[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 1:16 PM. Reason : aa] 6/25/2020 1:14:50 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
1. He didn't say likeliER 2. Winning 6 out of 8 is hard for any team 3. You projected Wolves to be 2 whole points behind manu and 3 out of 4th.
Lol "memes"
[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 1:30 PM. Reason : Other than dynasty the lay thing that could be considered memes were about your death wish]
[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 1:33 PM. Reason : More] 6/25/2020 1:30:17 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
so how do Liverpool fans celebrate during COVID times? 6/25/2020 1:43:34 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Memes probably 6/25/2020 3:18:54 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
A gift but still...
Pulisic!!! 6/25/2020 3:53:30 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
You hate to see it!!!!!!! 6/25/2020 4:02:11 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
COME ON LADSS!!!!!!!!!
ITS COMING HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 6/25/2020 4:56:57 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Congrats on the title jammy twats. Well deserved. Now go back to being shit, you've had your fun. 6/25/2020 5:01:25 PM |
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You're Welcome!
Congrats and Enjoy 6/25/2020 5:09:12 PM |
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WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
6/25/2020 5:12:55 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
IT
FEELS
GOOD
MAN 6/25/2020 5:15:16 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS NOW NEGATIVE
YEAAAAAAAAA
CHAMMMMMMPPPPPSSS 6/25/2020 5:21:45 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Hey aimorris, you get to make a premier league thread for 20/21!!!
Quote : | ". I said to a buddy yesterday that Liverpool may need every one of the 5 points. City winning out wouldn't surprise me at all." |
[OLD TAKES EXPOSED!] What a difference a week makes!
Lol at Kenny with a glass of champagne and a full volume phone
Jurgen! https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1276268312868139009?s=19
[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 5:48 PM. Reason : E]6/25/2020 5:37:33 PM |