nvm, found it (page 226)

[Edited on August 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM. Reason : ]

8/31/2012 3:49:21 PM

Harrison Barnes is happy about the NCAA's ruling

8/31/2012 6:01:29 PM

I, too, watch espn

8/31/2012 6:02:34 PM

BEAT THE VOLS!!!

8/31/2012 8:51:32 PM

^message_topic.aspx?topic=630118

8/31/2012 8:56:17 PM

C'MON PACK! WE CAN DO THIS!ONLY DOWN BY 15!

8/31/2012 10:12:49 PM

ONLY DOWN BY 11.... WE CAN DO THIS

[Edited on August 31, 2012 at 10:33 PM. Reason : gO p ack]

8/31/2012 10:33:02 PM

there has never been a better instance for this face

8/31/2012 10:33:41 PM

is packpride.com down? I saw where they removed a thread or two about the scandal and banned a few members for something (personal information i think), but now I can't access the site.

9/1/2012 12:47:31 PM

Yeah Scout has been up to some SHADY ASS SHIT covering up UNC. You now have to login to even view packpride.

9/1/2012 1:32:41 PM

Quote :

" "In a class called How To Embarrass Your School Without Getting In Trouble With the NCAA, I give the North Carolina Tar Heels an A-plus. And they don't even have to write a paper." "The North Carolina scandal is a mess of forged signatures and unearned grades. Numerous courses in the department of African and Afro-American Studies were apparently a sham, designed to give athletes credits they didn't earn. But the NCAA doesn't care, because the NCAA cares about money and competition, in that order.""

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/michael_rosenberg/08/31/UNC-NCAA-academic-fraud/index.html

9/1/2012 1:54:44 PM

Yes, which renews my current attitude. This should only serve as a green light for every school everywhere to keep athletes eligible via giving grades. Maybe even skip the whole pesky enrollment process as well.

9/1/2012 7:25:45 PM

settle the fuck down

one, UNC released the statement, not the NCAA - they certainly used favorable wording

two, there are THREE ongoing investigations at UNC into all aspects of fraud

three, if you're really that retarded about all this, you should be on SFN with all the other batshit crazy people

9/1/2012 7:58:06 PM

goalielax sure would know about ncaa penalties being a georgia tech fan and all

9/1/2012 8:37:24 PM

Quote :

"North Carolina opened the year knowing it won't be eligible for a bowl game due to NCAA sanctions after the reputation-bruising scandal, which might've helped explain the large number of empty seats. And with droves of fans departing by halftime, the second-half setting looked more like a spring game in an empty stadium instead of a season opener."

Damn WRAL.

9/1/2012 9:19:14 PM

Quote :

"Attendance: 50500"

Haha if they counted hands instead of people.

There is no way there were more than 30,000 at their game today. What a fucking joke.

9/1/2012 9:57:13 PM

Quote :

" At the end of the semester I received the usual grade sheets from the registrar’s office. As I entered the final grades I noticed there were two students on one course sheet whose names were not familiar. I looked at my roll book and their names did not appear. They had never attended class. I asked my department head for an explanation. Department head: “Oh, that’s OK, Dr. Barber. These are students who are taking your course as an independent study.” Me: “What? Wait a minute. They never attended the class. How can they receive credit for a class they never attended?” Department head: “Oh, they were assigned a paper for their independent study. You can read it if you like.” Me: “I can’t enter a grade for these students. They never attended class. Besides, a final paper does not equate to a student receiving credit for a course they never attended. There was no instruction at all, only a flimsy paper. That’s not quite ethical!” Department head: “Oh, don’t worry, we can take care of that. I will assign a final grade.” I left his office steaming mad. It seemed, after talking to the department head, that it was standard practice. Later in the day a couple of students dropped by my office to wish me a relaxing vacation. A copy of my roll sheet was on my desk. I asked them if they had ever heard of these two students. “You don’t recognize those names Dr. Barber? They’re both football players. That’s funny; we never saw them in class. Wish we had.” When I delivered my grade sheets to the registrar’s office the next day, I asked about the two mystery entries on my class roll. How did they get there? I told the registrar they had never attended class. They hadn’t dropped the course – if they had, they wouldn’t be on my final grade sheet. Registrar: “Oh, don’t worry about that Dr. Barber. That happens sometimes when people can’t attend a class regularly. We do this a lot for our athletes who have to stay eligible.” Me [raising my voice a couple of octaves]: “This is making no sense!” Registrar: “You must be a new faculty member, Dr. Barber!” I left the registrar’s office wondering how many no-show courses were being offered by faculty members at this university – courses where no instruction was offered and the only requirement was to submit a paper at the end of the semester. So many people were involved: faculty, department heads, athletic departments and in my case, the registrar’s office. I was not asked to return the next year. And I never found out what grades were entered for the athletes who appeared on my roll sheets, but I can guess. I still think about the hundreds of students who have been enrolled in my courses over the past 25 years. They graduated without any special favors; nobody was writing their papers for them and none bolted from school to receive million-dollar salaries. They worked very hard to get an education. The blame in all of this, including the recent scandal in the athletic department at UNC, lies not with the athletes but with faculty members, department heads and athletic departments willing to cheat the system in order to keep athletes academically eligible to play. As one coach told me at a party once: “Athletic departments, and that includes even high schools, will do anything to keep their players eligible. Nothing will change. Unless there are major reforms, the cheating will continue; just don’t get caught.” Will Barber is a former professor of psycholinguistics and a resident of Chapel Hill. "

http://www.carrborocitizen.com/main/2012/08/30/favoring-the-jocks-just-dont-get-caught/

Smoking gun.

The NCAA won't be able to ignore this.

[Edited on September 3, 2012 at 2:18 PM. Reason : 2]

9/3/2012 2:13:02 PM

watch them

9/3/2012 2:20:15 PM

All NCAA focus in on Rodney Purvis. They do not have time for such hearsay.

9/3/2012 2:24:26 PM

i fucking wish. they seem to have declared him ineligible and moved on.

9/3/2012 2:49:37 PM

^^^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo

9/3/2012 4:16:13 PM

Since I was at Death Bowl this weekend (aka the UNC/Elon game) I can post shots to give you an idea of attendance. Between the ridiculous scoring situation and the blast furnace air quality, there was no reason to stay beyond halftime. I did not post these in the Digital SLR thread, but here is a trio of panoramic shots I took a couple minutes into the second quarter so you can get an idea of the crowd at probably its largest point.

9/3/2012 4:56:50 PM

looks like the blue zone is still doing well...

9/3/2012 7:07:07 PM

That's not too terrible. Probably 25-30,000.

Much less than 55,000 or whatever they "estimated" though.

9/3/2012 7:25:54 PM

That's more than I"ve seen at any UNC game I've been to.

9/3/2012 10:40:17 PM

It's more than half full. I'd probably credit them with 35k through the turnstiles.

9/4/2012 12:08:40 AM

New Kane article out but I can't post from phone. Nothing new really

9/4/2012 4:48:01 PM

ANOTHER IC press release:

Quote :

"CHAPEL HILL, N.C. – A NCAA spokesperson confirmed North Carolina’s report last week, asserting that no NCAA rules were broken in the Department of African and Afro-American Studies academic scandal, to InsideCarolina.com on Tuesday."

9/4/2012 5:30:03 PM

they announced 50,500

[Edited on September 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM. Reason : honestly, not too far off. it's probably more like 46k but yeah.]

9/4/2012 5:34:46 PM

^^so that's it? it's over?

(i haven't really been paying attentino)

9/4/2012 5:39:41 PM

basically. Handing out A's in fake classes is OK, but getting D's in real classes is not.

9/4/2012 5:51:59 PM

wonder what some of the other NCAA-punished schools think about that

9/4/2012 5:54:39 PM

UConn fans are justifiably pissed.

It's not over as long as the cyberterrorist hackers over at PackPride are on the case.

9/4/2012 5:59:32 PM

sadface

9/4/2012 6:40:54 PM

9/4/2012 7:20:03 PM

maybe the ACC will do something....Hah laff

9/4/2012 7:23:31 PM

It's not over, there are still 3 separate investigations going on.

9/4/2012 8:49:54 PM

Just because UNC is trying to sweep this under the rug doesn't mean that it's going to happen. The NCAA hasn't actually delivered a statement yet, and I'm pretty sure they are getting constant calls and emails each and every day.

Too many people know about this now.

They said the same thing when the football scandal was developing

9/4/2012 9:29:30 PM

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/09/04/ncaa-ruling-on-north-carolina-academic-scandal-was-to-protect-the-basketball-program-right/

9/4/2012 9:47:06 PM

You know when it's ok to receive improper benefits??? When the NCAA is giving them to you lol

9/4/2012 10:28:48 PM

Article comparing Uconn to UNC:

Quote :

""Look, I don't have a problem with the APR. UConn doesn't have a problem with APR as a measurement. But don't tell me we get punished because we don't meet an APR standard that was changed retroactively yet the NCAA cannot punish an institution or teams that have participated in academic fraud. That's a double standard to my mind.""

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-football/hc-jacobs-ncaa-column-0905-20120905,0,4797734.column?page=2

9/4/2012 11:14:57 PM

http://www.dailytarheel.com/m/article/2012/09/the-decision-not-to-pursue-sanctions-is-deplorable


Lol the comments

9/5/2012 6:55:51 PM

^one of those comments references academic fraud incidents at Michigan and Florida State, which, after reading into, seem very similar to what happened at UNC (steering to no-show classes, issuing grades with minimal to no work, etc). not only is that a poor argument from that poster, it reinforces the need for further investigations. I wasn't that familiar with those incidents at the other schools, but the NCAA appears to have stepped in and issued sanctions in those cases. How can the NCAA now wipe their hands of this and say no academic violations have taken place??? This is really disturbing.

9/6/2012 9:36:15 AM

^ from the comments:

Quote :

"Nice article. Glad to see that not all of us at UNC are blinded by the desire to win at sports and actually want to see our academic reputation restored. The NCAA absolutely should have re-opened it's investigation especially considering it missed the academic fraud in the AFAM department completely. It is embarrassing to be a student of this once great institution. Maybe I will boycott the school. "

Oh yes.

9/6/2012 9:36:27 AM

So all the reasonable comments are from tww shills.

And I thought the line was that UNC told the NCAA all about the AFAM issue while they were being investigated last year (lol).

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM. Reason : -]

9/6/2012 9:46:33 AM

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/20065520/its-hard-to-do-now-but-hold-off-judging-the-ncaa-until-unc-case-is-over

Have patience they say

9/6/2012 12:45:58 PM

^

Quote :

"This article doesn't make any sense. I thought the NCAA has "cleared" UNC of violations in this academic fraud scandal, meaning they've already decided not pursue any penalties/punishments? What are people/sportswriters not being patient about? There is nothing else to come. The NCAA has made their determination (even as UNC continues to investigate). It seems the NCAA rushed to judgment by saying "nothing to see here" without waiting for additional information. They have come to their conclusion prematurely. That's where the outrage is. What am I missing? Is it possible the NCAA will make another anouncement after UNC's internal investigation, and say "I know we said their were no NCAA violations before, but we've changed our minds"?"

That's the one I want a legitimate answer to.

9/6/2012 1:01:36 PM

Quote :

"UNC and the NCAA have been working hand in hand with this case for more than a year now."

Why. WHY is the accused "working hand in hand with the NCAA" on this matter? UNC has stonewalled almost every attempt for information in this scandal and the one before it. Why in the flying fuck are they effectively a member of the jury in their own trial?



Also, consider this: UNC athletes were taking a ton of independent studies courses where the only requirement was to write a paper. No classes, no tests. Just a paper.
Now consider this other fact from the previous investigation: UNC tutors were writing whole parts of papers for athletes, and professors weren't even trying to notice obvious cases of plagiarism on papers.

Now, again, tell me that athletes were doing the same work as other students, or that none of this was set up for the benefit of athletes, since other students happened to get lucky and take the same classes

9/6/2012 1:29:31 PM

Quote :

"one of those comments references academic fraud incidents at Michigan and Florida State, which, after reading into, seem very similar to what happened at UNC"

lol. i don't know about UM, but at FSU the similarities are that tutors and shit wrote papers for the players. FSU didn't have entire academic programs with fake classes. unc has admitted to having dozens of fake classes, whereas the NCAA only discovered 1 (one) at FSU.

there is no comparison. this is the biggest academic scandal in NCAA history.

9/6/2012 3:11:14 PM

^ and from all appearances thus far, the NCAA will not treat it as such.

I wonder what will happen after they conclude their "investigation"

9/6/2012 3:15:56 PM