aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
247-year bowl ban 9/27/2012 11:12:35 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
24/7 cheating 9/27/2012 11:23:55 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
the 1 upper 9/27/2012 11:27:36 AM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
this was getting to close to the bottom.
Quote : | "The records develop a deeper picture about the academic fraud that has spawned four ongoing investigations and reviews on the Chapel Hill campus. They show that the athlete support program used the no-show classes to help keep student-athletes eligible to play.
" |
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/09/29/2379206/unc-players-needed-academic-help.html#dsq-content
[Edited on September 29, 2012 at 9:57 PM. Reason : f]9/29/2012 9:42:19 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
link? 9/29/2012 9:44:30 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In one case, it appears that a player did nothing more than copy various articles and other background information from the Internet and paste it all into a paper before turning it over to a tutor." |
ha9/30/2012 12:22:06 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
I love that one of the Swahili professors is so frustrated that some of the players can't "grasp the language." Is that any surprise, when we know that those players can barely read or write on a college level? 9/30/2012 12:42:10 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“People were just rude,” Read wrote about a SWAH 112 study session. That class was held in the first summer session of 2010, and was not a no-show class. “...people farting, watching videos on their computers, talking back, complaining, rapping, not paying attention.”" |
farting in my study hall?9/30/2012 1:19:00 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/20427883/ncaa-president-confirms-unc-could-face-sanctions-for-academic-fraud
NCAA president Mark Emmert confirms North Carolina could face sanctions for academic fraud 10/1/2012 8:35:22 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
I read it as they are going to see why information UNC comes up with on their own before they do anything... 10/1/2012 8:51:24 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on October 1, 2012 at 8:51 PM. Reason : Ugh]
10/1/2012 8:51:24 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah it doesn't sound like the NCAA is going to do any investigating...but they'll wait and see what comes of the internal investigation(s) I guess. 10/1/2012 8:52:44 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ Quote : | ""[North Carolina is] working very diligently to get to the bottom of it," Emmert said. "We'll just have to see what the facts are as they become clearer."" |
The fuck they are. That quote doesn't make me feel very good about the possibility of sanctions. Sounds like he's toeing the Carolina party line of them doing everything they can to get to the bottom of this. If it wasn't for Pack Pride and Dan Kane forcing their hand, this shit would've been over a long time ago. I'm not getting my hopes up.10/1/2012 9:04:07 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
10/1/2012 10:59:56 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
meh, it's a lot better than them saying it's not an athletic issue. 10/1/2012 11:05:39 PM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
poor roy probably can't sleep at night 10/1/2012 11:20:13 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
likely sleeps like a champ. given precedence even if they did nail down their basketball program, which they won't since it's both a) a cash cow for all involved and b) a program with academic support totally separate from all other sports, he knows good and well he'll get a few million bucks in buy-out (hush) money if he has to "resign" and you know he has texa$ in the bank as it is. i wouldn't be all that worried about it either if i were already okay with being in that system to begin with.
[Edited on October 1, 2012 at 11:25 PM. Reason : ] 10/1/2012 11:25:13 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
new? old?
NCAA says additional UNC sanctions a possibility
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/11615841/
[Edited on October 2, 2012 at 4:50 PM. Reason : meh, nothing really worthy in the article anyways]
[Edited on October 2, 2012 at 5:02 PM. Reason : haha, didn't even see that link above] 10/2/2012 4:48:50 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
new? old? basically posted on the same page? eh, whatever 10/2/2012 4:55:12 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
speaking of Thorpe, did he ever change his resignation? 10/2/2012 4:56:07 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
No because he knows what the student body doesn't 10/2/2012 6:51:40 PM |
fart king Veteran 125 Posts user info edit post |
10/2/2012 10:02:13 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^ hahahahahaha 10/2/2012 10:03:01 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
I can't link from my iPad (easily) but a story just came out from the N&O that basketball players were steered toward some Naval weapons course because it only required like one term paper.
[Edited on October 2, 2012 at 10:31 PM. Reason : v, vv there ya go] 10/2/2012 10:29:04 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/02/2386415/naval-weapons-systems-class-at.html
UNC's Naval Weapons Systems class attracted basketball players
to keep basketball grades up they are jeopardize our future naval officers knowledge. One of the naval officers will probably start WW3 just so hansblow could remain eligible
Quote : | "The class’s average grade that semester was 3.63, or better than a B-plus, and the class’ work requirements were deemed so difficult to assess that its structure was later changed." |
Quote : | "The syllabus for the NAVS 302 class shows that it was a different type of course than in other years. It had no required exams or quizzes and no major research paper. Students received much of their grade from a two- to three-page double-spaced midterm paper and a group project that required a 20-minute oral presentation split among five students." |
Quote : | "Since he took over the department, the weapons class average grade has plummeted to roughly a C average." |
[Edited on October 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM. Reason : df]10/2/2012 10:29:39 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/02/2386415/naval-weapons-systems-class-at.html 10/2/2012 10:30:22 PM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
shit gets real? 10/2/2012 10:31:05 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Joey Powell is going is all
"Kaaaaaaaaaaane!"
Right now 10/2/2012 10:31:10 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "One of the basketball players, Bobby Frasor, now director of basketball operations at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, said he and his teammates took the class after the class instructor discussed it with counselors in the Academic Support Program for Student Athletes, a program that helps athletes stay eligible academically to play sports.
“He told our academic advisers, but I had never heard of the class, and basically, our academic adviser recommended it and we enrolled in it,” Frasor said. “And I don’t know if it was my favorite class, but it was an enjoyable class.”
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/02/2386415/naval-weapons-systems-class-at.html#storylink=cpy" |
Ahahahaha Bobby Fraser, thank you.10/2/2012 10:37:08 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
they want you! They want you! They want you as a new recruit!
In the Navy!
10/2/2012 10:46:52 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
Great... Now I picture hansbourough in a navy uniform reading chicken little 10/2/2012 10:48:15 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know how excited I would get over this. As a general rule, Naval Science courses are notoriously easy, as long as you do the work in them. Then again, they do usually have tests and quizzes and shit. 10/2/2012 10:50:51 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Dan Kane is an evil genius! 10/2/2012 10:55:00 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^^its more about the players being steered to the classes than the class being just easy
[Edited on October 2, 2012 at 10:55 PM. Reason : ^^] 10/2/2012 10:55:47 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
and if they are steered to a class that is normally easy, well, what's the problem? now, if they modified how this course is normally taught because they steered athletes to it, well, that's a different story. but rocks for jocks aint nothing new
[Edited on October 2, 2012 at 10:57 PM. Reason : ] 10/2/2012 10:56:47 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
Yea but how many students take rocks for jocks because its easy??? All I them 10/2/2012 10:59:11 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
dear god, that joey powell guy is insufferable on twitter. i don't follow him, but check out his timeline occasionally just to see what he's bitching about. 10/2/2012 11:02:31 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
There is easy, and then there is "one 2-page paper and one 4 minute* presentation for your entire grade" easy.
* 20 minutes split 5 ways 10/2/2012 11:04:18 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
lol at the comments
Quote : | "You sunk my flagship!!!!" |
10/2/2012 11:06:40 PM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yea but how many students take rocks for jocks because its easy??? All I them" |
Man, I dropped that shit. Fuck Dr Kimberly and his bullshit stories.10/2/2012 11:07:17 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ don't disagree, but now show that that one class, that one time, was made that way to benefit athletes, at the same time it was fucking over NROTC students by making them less prepared. I love a good conspiracy as much as the next guy, especially concerning UNC, but fucking with the military in order to win basketball games just sounds a little too far-fetched. N'yangoro fakes a class maybe he gets fired. A Navy LT fakes a class, and he goes to Leavenworth.] 10/2/2012 11:11:25 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ben Swain @thedevilwolf The real scandal from that story is Bobby Frasor having a basketball scholarship" |
ahaha10/2/2012 11:21:03 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
I respect Frasor more than most Tarholes.
His twitter war with Hodge was pretty funny. 10/2/2012 11:26:37 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I <3 the pic from the N&O article
10/2/2012 11:35:05 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
Needs a sailors hat 10/2/2012 11:37:56 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
The original accusation was that student athletes were enrolled in bogus classes just so they could be handed a grade to remain academically eligible, a very real story. Carolina apologists then rebutted with a straw man arguing that all schools have easy courses for athletes, which wasn't even the original concern. Now the narrative has changed to "look at the athletes taking easy courses" which can easily be dismissed with a "so what."
The only thing from the article that stood out:
Quote : | "The syllabus for the NAVS 302 class shows that it was a different type of course than in other years." |
For the semester where 30 of the 38 enrolled were athletes.
[Edited on October 3, 2012 at 8:45 AM. Reason : -]10/3/2012 8:38:59 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, that's the only thing that would make me raise an eyebrow, but that could be chalked up to having a different LT teaching the class. Maybe he thought this would be a better format, and then promptly found out why it wasn't. Like I said, a Navy LT isn't gonna fake a class for athletes at the risk of going to Leavenworth. it's more likely that the athletic academic support saw this course's new format and pounced on it.] 10/3/2012 10:38:09 AM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
I think you give said Navy Lt. too much credit. Especially given the 'Carolina Way'. No doubt he thought if it was the best for UNC basketball, it would be best for the country. 10/3/2012 10:44:13 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Yvan eht nioj. 10/3/2012 10:57:05 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
completely unrelated, but^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGu4nhviVoc&feature=related 10/3/2012 11:05:22 AM |