One of my friends asked if UNC could win divisional champ (while not going to the acc champ game). This was in the recent ACC announcement:

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"The decision was made that should a member institution be ineligible for postseason competition due to NCAA sanctions, it will be ineligible for regular season or divisional recognition."

http://www.theacc.com/genrel/100312aae.html

10/3/2012 1:38:06 PM

[Edited on October 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM. Reason : durr]

10/4/2012 10:04:22 AM

^don't worry about reading the rest of the thread

10/4/2012 10:06:25 AM

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/10/05/3579675/experts-say-ncaa-should-return.html

10/5/2012 10:18:31 PM

Jeff Gravley "point blank" with Butch Davis. First of a 3 part interview airing on wral tomorrow night at 530

10/9/2012 5:34:44 PM

Let me guess, a whole bunch of deflecting and denying

10/9/2012 11:16:28 PM

^^^ I'm loving the UNC fan comments on that link. Particularly the one who accuses NCSU, UNCG, and UNCW of being up to worse.

I mean. I know they've got their Deflect-At-NCSU plan going, but UNCG and UNCW?

10/10/2012 6:24:42 AM

we all know how dirty UNCG can be. And don't even get me started on UNCW. Those mofos have been winning by cheating for a LONG time

10/10/2012 10:33:22 AM

Isn't a former unc player the basketball coach at uncg now? It would make sense they are cheating.

10/10/2012 10:37:26 AM

Most of those comments make my head hurt.

10/10/2012 10:42:57 AM

yeah. UNCG's got at least 2 NCAA championships in b-ball that they acquired through questionable means. And their football program is so dirty it's beyond repair

10/10/2012 10:43:06 AM

Help wanted: Head of UNC's boring non-sports operations

"Our outgoing chancellor enjoyed our “surprise party” program in which random administrators would visit with engaging monologues like, “Remember the cute couple on that plane that we borrowed from the med school to go out fundraising? Turns out they’re an item, and a newspaper reporter is holding on line 3."

At your present institution, do you have a class in Swahili? No problem. It turns out we didn’t either!"

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/10/09/3587751/desperate-for-work-then-run-unc.html

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10/10/2012 11:31:36 AM

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"Isn't a former unc player the basketball coach at uncg now? It would make sense they are cheating."

Wes Miller UNC class of 07

10/10/2012 12:16:03 PM

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10/10/2012 12:26:02 PM

^^^

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"fabled state-of-the-art athletic arenas"

the dean dome is a concrete box with blue seats

10/10/2012 2:36:48 PM

"What has been most troublesome to me about this entire scandal, if we're going to call it that, over the last two years, is that it has called into question our institutional decision-making and our priorities," said Jay Smith, an associate history professor and one of the most outspoken critics of the university's handling of the investigations.


http://m.usatoday.com/article/sports/1625329?preferredArticleViewMode=single


AHAHAHAHAH!

10/10/2012 10:49:30 PM

I'm fine with calling it a scandal


Also

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""In the first two years, we had to terminate and dismiss from the program 18 players - completely under the radar," Davis said. "There were things we had to change. We knew about it. Players that had hundred dollar bills laying on their bed and then posting it on Facebook. People talk about how we didn't monitor Facebook, we did. We found things - we immediately acted.""

Let's hear more about these hundred dollar bills...

10/11/2012 6:53:53 AM

i know, right? I'm sure the NCAA would really like to know about these players they dismissed but didn't report...

10/11/2012 12:38:06 PM

https://twitter.com/_andrewcarter

Timeline has some quotes from Fmr. Gov. Martin to the press on the UNC "investigation". Way I read it makes this seem like a total softball investigation and a bit of a farce.

[Edited on October 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM. Reason : Dan Kane story to come later today.]

10/16/2012 2:48:26 PM

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"Andrew Carter @_andrewcarter Asked if he believes some of these AFAM courses were part of a scheme to keep athletes eligible, Martin says ... "... I would state it a bit differently. I wouldn’t say 'scheme.'" Reiterates that counselors' job is to find manageable course loads."

10/16/2012 2:52:28 PM

This far into this whole investigation I don't see how people can say with a straight face that the AFAM thing was cheating to keep athletes eligible. These weren't "manageable classes", they were fake classes held primarily to churn out A's and B's for athletes.

10/16/2012 3:05:46 PM

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"Martin: “If there’s something there that’s of concern to [NCAA, UNC will have] to deal with it.”"

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"Martin makes a funny. Says if #UNC tries to hide something from NCAA, “Those wizards over at State” will take care of it."

10/16/2012 3:46:29 PM

Figures they appoint a granddad, who's totally inept at technology, the head of the investigation.

[Edited on October 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM. Reason : ']

10/16/2012 3:49:17 PM

I know its not like they subpoena power or anything but there's got to be a better way than just throwing their hands up and going "They're not talking" . But ultimately Carolina cut these people loose for exactly this reason .

10/16/2012 3:58:22 PM

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"These weren't "manageable classes", they were fake classes held primarily to churn out A's and B's for athletes."

If I was an athlete & took a fake class and got a B, I'd threaten to blow the whistle if it wasn't upped to an A (unless I was a scrub, at which point I'd take it like a man)

10/16/2012 4:02:13 PM

If you were an athlete and you got a B in a fake class, you'd likely think you worked really hard to earn it.

10/16/2012 4:12:29 PM

If you were an athlete and got a B in a fake class you'd be happy you could still play ball

10/16/2012 4:14:12 PM

Marvin Austin's 1996 Chevy caprice was stolen

Lol

10/16/2012 7:20:57 PM

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"Thorp has said that Martin is free to look anywhere within the university to get answers. But Martin said he doesn’t view his job as looking for NCAA violations or identifying easy classes that do meet; the latter, he said, can be found on nearly any campus across the country. He also doesn’t think he will have the time to conduct a sweep of course work turned in by athletes to find out how prevalent plagiarism is. “We are looking to see if we can find when (the no-show classes) began and if other departments have had similar or the same kinds of mischief,” Martin said. Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/16/2416411/martins-probe-at-unc-focuses-on.html#storylink=cpy"

New Kane, really wonder how serious this investigation is taking things.

10/16/2012 10:40:08 PM

actually, that column isn't all that bad. I don't blame him for not looking for easy classes that actually met. he's right, those kinds of classes are literally all over the place. But, some of the other statements made earlier in this thread are troubling

10/16/2012 10:51:17 PM

^could be worse for sure maybe I'm just expecting too much

10/16/2012 11:02:44 PM

I think Kane is sitting on something. If he is intelligent and has any ammo at all, he will wait until his opposing player turns over all their cards and then strike to kill any credibility they might have. I am all for Kane just sitting on any info he has until the Martin and SBI investigations are complete. If both reports fail to touch on anything Kane has in his stockpile of ammunition, then it immediately calls for yet another investigation and casts prior investigations in the same light as the shams UNC has perpetrated for the past 2 years.

There is no point in laying down your cards before your adversary when they are required to play first. Doing so would only allow them to take advantage of the information and deflect.

I personally still see this as dragging on for another year, which only drags the UNC name through the mud for another year. We should be cheering for this and not demanding more information every week. Patience is a virtue.

10/16/2012 11:12:04 PM

But patience is HARD!!!!!!!!

I wanna know all the dirt NOW!!!!!!!!

10/16/2012 11:19:23 PM

Bullet I am on that boat. Where did you find that photo? Masonboro is a crazy place. See Dexter on the right? Dude couldn't walk after that fiasco lol.

10/17/2012 12:07:46 AM

^^^While that would be epic if he did that, you don't become a journalist to not report things that you find. Kane isn't on some personal vendetta to bring down UNC no matter what posters on IC would have you believe, he's just assigned to the story. So if he actually found something big he would want to be the first to report it to take credit.

10/17/2012 12:16:44 AM

New Kane:

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"As the spring 2011 semester wound to a close, UNC-Chapel Hill football player Erik Highsmith had nothing to show for the blog students were supposed to contribute to for a communications class, his instructor said. The blog accounted for 30 percent of a student’s grade. Highsmith wrote two posts in seven days. The first was about poultry farming, the second about people and pets. Very little of either post was in his own words. Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/20/2425386/more-plagiarism-questions-haunt.html#storylink=cpy"

10/20/2012 9:26:02 PM

Best Part

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"She did not realize that the blog for the class had been exposed on UNC-CH’s website, where a fan of rival N.C. State University found it, and contacted the N&O. The day after the N&O interviewed her, password protection was added to the site. Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/20/2425386/more-plagiarism-questions-haunt.html#storylink=cpy"

10/20/2012 9:28:30 PM

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"The first entry was virtually identical to a passage on an education website written by four 11-year-olds for their peers."

10/20/2012 9:28:44 PM

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"I support the University of North at Chapel Hill. Let's face it, these guys like Julius Peppers and Tyler Hansborough are not Albert Einstein. As long as they behave well and represent the school as sportsmen, I am satisfied. These guys work hard on the court and off court. This is pure sensationalism from the News and Observer. I am writing my legislator to leave UNC alone. UNC is not different from other colleges with aspiring sportsmen. "

10/20/2012 9:51:23 PM

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"Beckham said someone at the academic support program told her they would talk to the student, “but after that, I never heard anything.” She has since left the university to teach at a community college in central Virginia."

They sacked her for reporting plagiarism from an athlete

10/21/2012 12:34:32 AM

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"The first entry was virtually identical to a passage on an education website written by four 11-year-olds for their peers."

motherfucker copied some damn 6th graders work.

10/21/2012 1:48:11 PM

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""I support the University of North at Chapel Hill. Let's face it, these guys like Julius Peppers and Tyler Hansborough are not Albert Einstein. As long as they behave well and represent the school as sportsmen, I am satisfied. These guys work hard on the court and off court. This is pure sensationalism from the News and Observer. I am writing my legislator to leave UNC alone. UNC is not different from other colleges with aspiring sportsmen."

No, you moron, UNC KEEPS their athletes eligible even through their transgressions ON and OFF the field. State on the other hand, kicks such transgressors off the team(Soccer team, Moose etc). Tough steps but necessary


[Edited on October 21, 2012 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ...]

[Edited on October 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ...]

10/21/2012 2:13:14 PM

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"LEAVE UNC ALONE"

10/21/2012 3:04:23 PM

from the article:

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"Jay Smith, a UNC-CH history professor who has been outspoken about the scandal’s impact on the university’s academic integrity, said the academic support program needs a thorough review, regardless of what Martin finds. “It’s painfully obvious to anybody who has been paying attention for the last couple of years that plagiarism seems to be widely accepted among at least a certain subsection of athletes, and, it would seem, within a certain number of counselors and tutors,” Smith said. “And that is a problem. That is a huge problem.” "

This cover-up is as bad as Penn State's (the cover-up, not the charges).

10/21/2012 10:58:06 PM

I like how that woman instructor left UNC and now is working at some podunk community college in Virginia. You would think a person teaching at UNC could land a better job than a community college after leaving the amazing institution of academic excellence that is UNC-Chapel Hill. I guess UNCG wasn't hiring.

10/22/2012 10:40:58 AM

Funny comment from the article

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" All that talent obtained and retained illegally, All of the fake classes set up to ensure that their idiot players can stay in school, All of the damage done to the reputation of that school, All of the investigations that have occurred and which are still ongoing... ....and they still lose to Duke. LOL! "

10/22/2012 7:46:10 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2012/10/23/report-unc-receiver-erik-highsmith-plagiarized-11-year-olds/

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"Full disclosure: I graduated from UNC-Chapel Hill with a double-major in Journalism and Communication Studies. I never once wrote a blog post about the poultry industry."

ha.

10/23/2012 11:50:35 PM

10/24/2012 11:55:05 AM

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"After pasting into his blog, he probably should have edited out all the references to juice boxes."

From the comments section of that Washington Post article about Highsmith's cheating.

10/24/2012 12:45:46 PM

Rome was on it today.

10/24/2012 3:16:58 PM