I've got 4 $10 tickets in the upper deck I need to get rid of for tomorrow night's game (unrelated to the recent third period collapses). Send a PM if interested.

11/29/2009 5:15:21 PM

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11/29/2009 5:16:59 PM

Paul Maurice = John Fox = Tom O'Brien

11/29/2009 10:42:04 PM

i'm sorry, this thread doesn't accept the absurd sweeping generalizations generally found in the rest of sports talk

that said, MMGA!!!

11/29/2009 10:44:47 PM

OK, how about this....

the teams that I pull for from the state of NC all have really talented players, and their talents are going to waste

11/29/2009 10:49:27 PM

we all feel your pain


it blows


lol and eklund makes me laff

[Edited on November 29, 2009 at 11:05 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2009 10:50:23 PM

yeah, eklund has us trading bowman or boychuk for plekanec?! GTFO!

and Staal to edmonton. LOL!

[Edited on November 29, 2009 at 11:27 PM. Reason : staal]

11/29/2009 11:26:02 PM

I could actually see Staal being traded....

11/30/2009 9:16:39 AM

That would be awesome.

11/30/2009 9:21:22 AM

We have already discussed who needs to go, and who should go.

Cole, Brind'Amour, and Cullen

A. Ward somehow stayed off my radar, but I think he needs to go also.

11/30/2009 9:27:05 AM

I don't think anyone would Brind'Amour. They might trade for A. Ward.

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 9:28 AM. Reason : ]

11/30/2009 9:28:03 AM

really people? really?

yeah, lets trade our best player who we just locked up long term. we'll lose our future captain. try to persuade high end free agents to come to carolina without staal. there is no way in hell we'd get anything close to his value in return on a trade.

Staal will not get traded. It will never happen. Staal and Ward are here until their contracts are up. Period.


Of the players we have that we can actually get some value for, I think we'll trade Whitney, Corvo, and Cullen. Cullen is playing like a man who wants to get the hell out of Carolina right now....I think he'll be the first to go.

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 10:10 AM. Reason : .]

11/30/2009 10:08:54 AM

I didn't say that Staal will be traded, or should.... I said I could see it.

Of those you listed, I don't see Whitney as much as the others. All possibilities certainly, though.

11/30/2009 10:20:50 AM

i'm not talking about you, I'm talking about asshats like jrb that seem to think it would be a good idea


Whitney is a UFA, he puts up pts, he has playoff experience....and he's going to be gone.

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .]

11/30/2009 11:23:01 AM

There is some debate over whether or not Whitney has a NTC. If he does, he could choose not to waive it, but with the shitstorm that is going on right now it's hard to imagine anyone not jumping at the opportunity to get out.

11/30/2009 11:44:12 AM

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/2009/11/28/11967001.html

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"’Canes in dump mode This season is already a writeoff for Carolina GM Jim Rutherford and now he’s trying to unload contracts. While the Hurricanes can’t declare publicly they’re going for the first overall pick, it’s fair to say they’re the top contender because the last thing Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke wants to see is the Bruins making the top selection with the pick he dealt them for Phil Kessel. Sources say Rutherford, who has solid backing from ownership, will see if he can move some looming unrestricted free agents. The indications are D Aaron Ward ($2.5 million), D Joe Corvo ($2.75 million) and D Niclas Wallin ($1.725 million) are all being shopped. The surprise on that list is Ward, who was dealt back to Carolina from Boston in the off-season. But he’s struggled along with his teammates. Veteran winger Ray Whitney, also set to become a UFA, will likely get the option of being dealt to a contender. The 37-year-old is well-respected and would help any contender looking for leadership down the stretch."

11/30/2009 1:33:55 PM

^ Im a whitney fanboy so I dont want to see him go, but I would think he wouldnt be worth too terribly much as old as he is, but then again, look at hossa. so who knows.

11/30/2009 2:02:18 PM

Hossa is 30.

11/30/2009 2:10:45 PM

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=507963

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" Bowman eager to get to NHL ASAP November 30, 2009 by Lindsay Kramer || NHL.com Albany River Rats rookie forward Drayson Bowman chuckles at the goal his coach, Jeff Daniels, holds up as an example of one of his signature moments this season. The goal against Syracuse on Nov. 11 looked like nothing special at the time. Bowman eyed a puck that had bounced off the boards behind the Crunch goal, quickly calculated the appropriate time to meet it and then slammed it home from a tough angle. A less savvy player might have rushed the moment and fired wildly. Daniels' point was that the play required an appropriate amount of judgment, and, what's that quality? Oh yeah, patience. In other words, a trait seldom associated with the precocious prospect. "I wouldn't say I'm patient off the ice," Bowman laughed. "That's not what I'm known for." What Bowman, 20, is primarily known for is offense. The sharpshooter paced Spokane of the WHL in scoring each of the last two seasons, with 82 points in 2007-08 and 83 last season. He finished his Spokane career with 130 goals and 112 assists in 265 games, and averaged more than a point per game in 39 career playoff games (21-19). A close second on his list of personality traits is blunt ambition. Ask Bowman, a third-round pick by the Carolina Hurricanes in 2007, about his future, and there's no room for diplomacy. "I want to make the NHL," said Bowman, who notched 6 goals and 6 assists in his first 18 games with Albany. "And I don't want the slow road." The long road, maybe. Bowman grew up in Colorado until his family moved to the Vancouver area when Drayson was 13. Parents Mack and Nancy wanted Drayson and younger brother Colin to get better hockey competition and put them in position to possibly get taken in the WHL draft. "It was a huge sacrifice for my parents, a lot more of a risk on their part," Drayson said. "I was too young to realize what they were doing. I just wanted to play hockey. Scoring five goals a game in Colorado wasn't going to help me. To go play against some of the best kids in Canada helped me a lot. I never felt overwhelmed. I felt comfortable right away." The strategy looked golden when Drayson became a first-round draft pick by Spokane. And what if his career had sputtered against the better competition? Bowman said he never really considered the stakes riding on his family's move. "Looking back, there was a lot of risk, but it worked out pretty well. There, maybe, should have been a lot of pressure on me. But I was so young, I just wanted to play hockey," he said. "If I got drafted in the WHL, and was an average player, at least I enjoyed what I did." Bowman was far from run-of-the-mill. With 17 goals as a rookie in 2005-06, he became the first 16-year-old to notch double-digit goals for Spokane since Brandin Cote in 1997-98. His ascent slowed a little in his second season, when a broken wrist held him to 24 goals and 19 assists in 61 games. Unfortunately for him, that was his draft year. Carolina might have gotten a bargain, and Bowman picked up even more motivation. He bounced back as an 18-year-old with 42 goals and 40 assists in 66 games for Spokane. "I really found my game that year. I always knew I had a real good shot. It was just a matter of when and where to use it," Bowman said. "I think it was a combination from the disappointment of the year before and having something to prove. I wanted to show everyone I was a top-level prospect. I have real high expectations for myself, sometimes to a fault. I want to be the best, among the elite players in hockey. I guess it's a real competitiveness I've developed." That edginess supersedes jersey color. Bowman is part of a trio of strong prospects up front in the Carolina system, along with Zach Boychuk (first round, 2008) and Brandon Sutter (first round, 2007). As a third-rounder, Bowman stands a little off to the side of the spotlight when compared to those two. He looks at them and wonders what he needs to do to put himself in the same general glow. "I don't get quite as much attention as those guys, but they are both first-round picks," he said. "You always compare yourself to guys who are good, especially guys you are around. We can make each other better. You have to ask yourself, 'What does he do that I don't?' I think that's healthy. I don't think that's selfish." The concrete, albeit temporary, dividing line between Boychuk, Sutter and Bowman is that the first two have taken NHL shifts, while Bowman has not. Bowman thought the Hurricanes might have given him that chance coming out of training camp. But he had his place in the pecking order a little higher than the organization did. "I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me. I went into training camp with high hopes. It didn't work out," he said. "Now, I have to be patient, which, unfortunately I'm not. There's not a lot I can do except try to get better." Daniels indicated that Bowman might be selling himself short on the slow-and-steady front. The coach said he's seen focus and fine-tuning from his rookie, not distraction and hurriedness. "He loves to shoot the puck. And there's no panic to his game around the net. He's a smart player," Daniels said. "He's all business. He's very professional in the way he prepares himself. He's confident in his ability. There is no awe factor. He know he's down here to work." For all of Bowman's self-assuredness, the results have sometimes come like a car battery turning over on a cold winter morning. He potted a goal in each of his first three games with Albany, went goal-less in nine straight, came up with three in three again and then was kept off the score sheet in three straight. Also, against the Crunch on Nov. 25, he was sidelined by an unspecified leg injury. "Things have gone OK. I got off to a real good start, felt comfortable right away," he said. "I don't feel overwhelmed. It (a mini-slump) was bound to happen. It happens to a lot of guys." And that's precisely the rub. Bowman has spent much of the past several years trying to separate himself from the pack. With the final -- and most difficult -- push remaining, Bowman can't stomach the notion of blending in now. "I don't like waiting around for my chance. A lot of guys have that attitude. Everybody wants to go up," he said. "I still have a few things to work on in my game. But I feel like I'm close to playing at that level. It's really not in my control, except for the way I play down here.""

11/30/2009 3:31:30 PM

hope Corvo is alright. He is one of the guys who I was hoping to trade at the deadline as he could bring back a decent return.

and Ward scrambling back to find his man who is all alone in front of the goal is becoming an all too common sight

11/30/2009 7:22:54 PM

Ovechkin take a cheap shot, who would of guessed.

11/30/2009 7:32:12 PM

That was dirtier than most of his cheap shots.

11/30/2009 7:36:20 PM

Ovechkin again showing he's a dirty player because he thinks he wont have to pay for it. Eventually someone is gonna beat the shit out of him

11/30/2009 7:36:31 PM

Hopefully ovechkin tore his acl on that play

11/30/2009 7:40:56 PM

I love how he injured himself trying to be a jackass

11/30/2009 7:43:23 PM

i hope his career is ended soon, before he does it to someone else

is gleason ok? i just tuned in, as i understand it he hurt himself taking a run at gleason or something?

did he go knee to knee like he did on gonchar during the playoffs?

11/30/2009 8:26:51 PM

Gleason is back

11/30/2009 8:27:47 PM

Gleason has returned. I think the Gonchar one was more blatant, but this is a repeat offense and regardless I hope he's suspended. Injured or not. I'm sick of Ovie's knee/cheap shot ways.

11/30/2009 8:29:18 PM

yeah just saw the video

i am not surprised that i was right

11/30/2009 8:30:25 PM

wow was Leighton ever out of position on that goal

11/30/2009 8:34:50 PM

he knew he was gonna give up some more goals, just trying not to get vokouned

11/30/2009 8:40:45 PM

That Vokoun thing is scary. But I wouldn't blame him if it was Ballard on the back end now, but he's not here (good thing or bad thing who knows).

11/30/2009 8:44:44 PM

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"I think the Gonchar one was more blatant, but this is a repeat offense and regardless I hope he's suspended. Injured or not. I'm sick of Ovie's knee/cheap shot ways."

How do you figure? As a Pens fan, I was bitching as much as anyone about that hit, but Gonchar kind of sidestepped into it. No question it was dirty though.

With the Gleason hit, he didn't even have time to react. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that it was deliberate. The replay showed a clear extension of his leg in order to hit Gleason. Whether or not he meant to injure him is a different story. The Great Ape WILL get a suspension if he isn't injured badly (and maybe even if he is).

I lost my D partner this way at the Sobiech tourney in Charlotte a few years ago. That shit is no joke. Thankfully Gleason seems to be ok.

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 8:47 PM. Reason : I agree with the rest of what you said though]

11/30/2009 8:47:07 PM

i'm a pens fan too, and i agree that both players were turning when the gonchar hit occurred, but ovie really turned unnecessarily sharply to hit gonchar. at the time it looked intentional, and i also kind of thought "weeeeelllll maybe it was just a perfect storm, i'll give him the benefit."

now that it's a clear pattern, i am kind of retroactively pissed.

even though gonchar skated with the cup.

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 8:54 PM. Reason : -]

11/30/2009 8:52:07 PM

I don't know, I think it's just the speed it happened with Gonchar vs. Gleason. It was bad with Gleason don't get me wrong, but it seemed like he went more out of his way if I recall to get Gonchar versus Gleason. I could be wrong, but I mean Karma might've finally gotten Ovechkin this time. The more I watch replays the more I think the Gleason one is worse, but at the first watching I thought the Gonchar one was worse. Regardless both are dirty and I'm sick of his double standard that he's gotten.

11/30/2009 8:52:17 PM

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"Regardless both are dirty and I'm sick of his double standard that he's gotten."

this


The NHL needs to stop playing favorites, but assuming they continue the trend of stupid inconsistent punishments for star players, we can only guess what's going to happen using the handy dandy top secret suspension flow chart.

11/30/2009 8:57:42 PM

Is this something that just happened? I dont have cable.

11/30/2009 8:58:10 PM

^thats pretty awesome, but you can't hate on pronger's elbows, hes so tall!

11/30/2009 9:01:34 PM

Just like Scott Stevens, right Stein?

11/30/2009 9:05:40 PM

dirty game

11/30/2009 9:19:28 PM

this girl in the rex expresscare commercial has teeth like U U U U U U

can't bear to look

11/30/2009 9:21:18 PM

The flow chart was awesome. They keep showing replays and I just wish they'd do a side by side with the Gonchar one. Upon my own further review, the one on Gleason is now worse in my opinion. He does the same thing on both throwing his leg out and acts almost confused when doing it. I know that if Ovechkin is hurt, they will suspend him just to say they did. I wonder when people will start going after say Backstrom in retaliation to Ovechkin's antics.

11/30/2009 9:22:39 PM

^ agree with much of this

"acts almost confused" - yeah that's what i hate the most. he pulls dirty shit on the ice, then when asked about it pulls this wide-eyed, yakov smirnov "what a country!" bullshit and somehow it works.

and yeah, it's not gonna stop until someone runs backstrom. i don't think semin or green would have the same effect.

11/30/2009 9:31:33 PM

LETS GO CAPS!

11/30/2009 9:38:23 PM

http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?id=52944 Indefensible

11/30/2009 9:39:56 PM

hahaha flowchart ftw

11/30/2009 9:51:26 PM

The Caps post-game show host is saying it's Gleason's fault for not taking the hit. Wow just wow. What next?

11/30/2009 9:51:54 PM

well their announcer seems pretty typical for a caps fan

i'll take a stab at what's next. . .

"gary bettman ordered the officials to lure gleason towards the center of the ice so that ovechkin would get hurt and sidney crosby and bettman were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me."

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 10:01 PM. Reason : edited from under you, sorry]

11/30/2009 9:53:04 PM

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"The Caps post-game show host is saying it's Gleason's fault for not taking the hit. Wow just wow. What next?"

When you have cock smokers like Joe Beninati and Craig Laughlin as commentators, what do you expect?

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"Indefensible"

Correct

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"what's next? they will say it's gary bettman's fault"

Well he did fix the playoffs last year so that the Pens would win /stupidbandwagoncapsfan

11/30/2009 9:58:20 PM

Snow Valley Hockey is the greatest hockey commentator other than Tripp Tracey and you know it!

11/30/2009 10:10:40 PM