amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
25 wins after friday] 3/19/2012 5:57:36 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
nice catch. 3/19/2012 6:13:54 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
3/19/2012 8:04:44 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Its a 10:30 start which means it will be 11:30 cst and since our team would have just traveled to the central time zone from the eastern time zone its effectively a 12:30am start for ourteam 3/19/2012 8:41:30 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on March 19, 2012 at 8:45 PM. Reason : ] 3/19/2012 8:44:23 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
It will be 3:17 am central european time.
[Edited on March 19, 2012 at 8:45 PM. Reason : ...] 3/19/2012 8:45:19 PM |
StateCole All American 3597 Posts user info edit post |
I'm assuming many of you may follow our players on Twitter. If so, you'd know a lot of these guys go to gym to workout and/or shoot around at all times of the night. These cats are college kids that stay up all kinds of late anyways. Plus, with the adrenaline of playing in the Sweet 16, I doubt the late time will come into play. Quit bitchin, we got this. 3/19/2012 8:46:59 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
^agreed 3/19/2012 8:53:50 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27841 Posts user info edit post |
seriously, they go to the gym at like 11 all the time. 3/19/2012 8:58:50 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I'm fairly certain that daylight savings time is going to fuck us over once and for all 3/19/2012 9:03:03 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
How not to hold a press conference when you lose: http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-basketball/saint-louis-conklin-crying/ 3/19/2012 11:14:48 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't want to, but i lol'ed 3/19/2012 11:24:15 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7710067
as it turns out, doug gottlieb does not hate nc state, he just thought sidney lowe was a bad coach.
also 18% of brackets had us in the sweet sixteen. holy shit, that's a lot. 3/20/2012 3:26:25 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Forget the kid or the team, let's worry about the brackets!" |
Fucking seriously3/20/2012 7:22:26 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Is there any possibility that Ohio beats UNC sans Marshall?? Their stats are fucking garbage and they haven't beaten anybody significant until this tournament. I haven't watched them play one game this year. 3/20/2012 2:23:09 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Would take a miracle. Something to the effect of 20 made 3s would probably do it. 3/20/2012 2:24:25 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
how awesome would that be? Trust me, i like the idea of beating UNC, but the idea of losing to them sucks more. 3/20/2012 2:30:48 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Even without marshall im confident they can dispatch ohio.... After this round theyrre in bad shape tho 3/20/2012 2:31:57 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^He was obviously being facetious
[Edited on March 20, 2012 at 2:34 PM. Reason : unless you are actually agreeing with him] 3/20/2012 2:33:48 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Their stats are fucking garbage and they haven't beaten anybody significant until this tournament." |
Ohio or NCSU?3/20/2012 2:49:54 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^Ohio. Our stats are decent. 3/20/2012 3:00:24 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
It's because they didn't play anybody decent but Louisville, and barely lost that game.
Not sure why everybody is sleeping on them, especially with the questionable PG situation for UNC... 3/20/2012 3:07:58 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Ohio is pretty terrible, by far the worst team left in the tournament. Assuming both teams were healthy though they'd have about a 17% chance of beating UNC.
Without Marshall that has to increase quite a bit. One important fact is that Ohio is #2 nationally at forcing turnovers. Granted, they play against weaker competition typically, but if Marshall can't play that certainly bodes well.
Marshall is a little bit of a turnover princess himself anyway, so if he plays and his wrist is bothering him maybe that will be a factor as well. 3/20/2012 3:42:29 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
face's tourney algorithm 3/20/2012 7:20:00 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
Turnover Princess sounds like a glam rock band. 3/20/2012 7:21:14 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
2.8 to/gm = turnover princess? 3/20/2012 8:46:17 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Marshall has a 27.1% turnover rate.
Comparatively, Lorenzo Brown has a 23.3% turnover rate. And no one accuses Lorenzo of being great at protecting the ball. 3/21/2012 2:47:03 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
in your face tarheel fan 3/21/2012 2:50:06 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ohio is pretty terrible, by far the worst team left in the tournament.1 Assuming both teams were healthy though they'd have about a 17% chance of beating UNC.2
Without Marshall that has to increase quite a bit. One important fact is that Ohio is #2 nationally at forcing turnovers.3 Granted, they play against weaker competition typically4, but if Marshall can't play that certainly bodes well.
Marshall is a little bit of a turnover princess himself anyway5, so if he plays and his wrist is bothering him maybe that will be a factor as well." |
1Pomeroy, Ken 2012 Scouting Report for North Carolina http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=North+Carolina 2Pomeroy, Ken 2012 Scouting Report for North Carolina http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=North+Carolina 3Pomeroy, Ken 2012 Scouting Report for North Carolina http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=North+Carolina 4Pomeroy, Ken 2012 Scouting Report for North Carolina http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=North+Carolina 5Pomeroy, Ken 2012 Scouting Report for North Carolina http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=North+Carolina3/21/2012 2:50:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
lol
DJ Cooper will lead the Bobcats to victory
3/21/2012 2:55:08 PM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
These are the 3 scenarios that I see for the mighty NC State Wolfpack.
Scenario 1: We beat Kansas and advance to beat OHIO/UNC en route to the final four and ultimately the championship game before losing to the Kentucky Wildcats
Scenario 2: We beat Kansas and advance to elite 8. UNC, despite not having Marshal, plays inspired basketball for their fallen leader and beat Ohio. This new found confidence and "win one for the gipper" attitude makes them a force, they destroy us in the elite 8 by 15 on their way to a National Title.
Scenario 3: we lose to Kansas, who trounces Ohio/UNC and plays UK in the Final..olivia wildes tits help KU bring home the title
[Edited on March 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM. Reason : ...] 3/21/2012 2:58:02 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
more like win one for the gimper 3/21/2012 3:02:15 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
^ 3/21/2012 3:03:03 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""You know what I've got?" Williams added. "I've got a bunch of kids that have handled adversity" |
Here we go3/21/2012 3:34:46 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I really can't imagine they'll try and play Marshall on Friday unless they're down by like 15 at the half (which I also can't imagine happening). If he's playing, they're saving him for Sunday. 3/21/2012 3:39:09 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Nah, Williams has already made it clear they aren't playing Marshall unless they have to, and Marshall refuses to sit out. 3/21/2012 3:45:36 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
UNC
We know adversity 3/21/2012 3:49:24 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
More like
Here We Go™] 3/21/2012 3:49:59 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Marshall refuses to sit out." |
Absurd. I was listening to Gold and Ovies the other day, and they had a doctor on that said basically that if you insist on playing with an injury like this, instead of allowing it to heal properly, then you run a serious risk of ruining your entire career. He apparently is projected in NBA mock drafts (for some reason), so it's pretty ridiculous to risk that.3/21/2012 4:06:34 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
this is just absolutely, adorably cute
3/21/2012 4:22:55 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
If they ever planned on Marshall playing again this season, then they have handled this whole thing very poorly. Whoever guards Marshall is going to do two things: force him to dribble to his right and hack the shit out of his right wrist ever chance they get. This is one of those situations where they should have played it extremely close to the vest and never it let be known that he had an injury. Again, that's all assuming they expect him to play again in the tournament. I personally don't think he will. 3/21/2012 4:40:50 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
sweep the leg wrist 3/21/2012 4:43:42 PM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
3/21/2012 4:45:34 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
I had an argument with an opposing attorney today about wrist hacking. He thought that any time an injured player's wrist is hit, it's purposeful (i.e. Chris Paul, Hensen, etc.) I could not get him to understand that when you're HOLDING A BASKETBALL, it's going to be inches from your wrist, which is going to get hit.
Then again, he also thought Hodge deserved the nut punch, so he's likely completely off his rocker, and I shouldn't have wasted time arguing.
[Edited on March 21, 2012 at 5:02 PM. Reason : ] 3/21/2012 4:46:11 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Marshall has a 27.1% turnover rate.
Comparatively, Lorenzo Brown has a 23.3% turnover rate. And no one accuses Lorenzo of being great at protecting the ball." |
i assume you're using the calculation which includes field goals attempted and free throws. that doesn't really seem very relevant when you're talking about strictly ball handling3/21/2012 4:50:20 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
jesus christ man no one gives a fuck about you defending marshall's turnover rate. 3/21/2012 5:07:34 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
oh look, it's simonn being an asshole for no apparent reason 3/21/2012 5:26:00 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i assume you're using the calculation which includes field goals attempted and free throws. that doesn't really seem very relevant when you're talking about strictly ball handling " |
Do what3/21/2012 5:36:16 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
FSU - 7 turnovers Maryland - 6 turnovers Maryland again - 6 turnovers Michigan State - 5 turnovers VT - 5 turnovers Wisconsin - 4 turnovers Miami - 4 turnovers Tenn St - 4 turnovers Duke - 4 turnovers Creighton - 4 turnovers
10 games with 4+ turnovers.
In his last six games averaging just under 4 turnovers per game.
He does average a ton of assists so he bound to turn the ball over some, i'm just saying that if he plays with a broken wrist against a defense that is one of the nation's best at forcing turnovers and steals then there's a good chance he will commit quite a few turnovers.
^ He is correct. FGA are considered into TO%. It's based on the numbers of possessions you "use". Which could be an assist, shot taken, turnover, etc.
[Edited on March 21, 2012 at 5:39 PM. Reason : a] 3/21/2012 5:37:43 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Some UNC Walmart fan came into my workplace today trying to do some business with us. He saw some of the State stuff I have in my office and said "Yeah the Wolfpack are playing well". He tells me he is a UNC fan and I ask him if he went to school there. The answer is the obvious no.
We start talking about the tourney and he calls Creighton a bunch of goons for injuring Marshall intentionally. LOL. I ask him a few questions and can tell he knows jack shit about sports and only likes Carolina because his mom got him a shirt at the local gas station when he was 5. Did not even know who Stillman White or JJ Watts were. Told me he would be pulling for the Pack to beat Kansas because it helps UNC reach the Final 4. I just smiled and decided that I did not want to do business with his bandwagon ass. 3/21/2012 5:41:56 PM |