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The E Man
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bernie should drop out and boycott the party

5/17/2016 8:12:17 PM

The E Man
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"voter machine issues" in lexington. Only 8% reporting 85 minutes after polls have closed. Sounds like they have to wait until the sanders votes are counted in western kentucky so they can know how many votes they need to fabricate.

5/17/2016 8:16:50 PM

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"Bullshit. You and Earl are obviously arguing this because Bernie, which is dumb."


There really is no reason to argue over which geographical area a state is in for any reason than in a sociology class. It really doesn't matter to me where you think Kentucky is, nor do I think it matters to any voters.

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"boycott the schoooooooo partyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"


[Edited on May 17, 2016 at 8:45 PM. Reason : -]

5/17/2016 8:41:54 PM

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" Kentucky has always been more midwest than it has south."


LMAO. [NO]

I swear, do you even visit these places you have such strong opinions about?

5/17/2016 9:30:40 PM

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I have spent time in Kentucky. My time there was much more similar to my time in Ohio than it was to my time in Georgia. And I wouldn't call it a strong opinion. I honestly don't care what anybody wants to call it.

5/17/2016 9:35:57 PM

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Well Clinton is going to have a razor thin victory in Kentucky so we all know what that means...

KENTUCKY IS OFFICIALLY THE SOUTH AND NO LONGER MATTERS! WOO GO KENTUCKY!

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" Thought it was great, personally. He denounced the threats while explaining in detail why people were upset."


Haha get the fuck outta here.

[Edited on May 17, 2016 at 10:55 PM. Reason : .. ]

5/17/2016 10:52:31 PM

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hilarious

a clinton supporter laughing at someone else denying something that they may have supported but wants to act as if they don't have any idea what is going on

5/18/2016 8:20:15 AM

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i'm still confused why goalielox is so angry about this

5/18/2016 8:35:52 AM

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i'm not angry about anything. I'm just making fun of you guys for your "south" narrative

angry would be sending death threats because your minority didn't get to be a majority like it wanted to be

[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 8:53 AM. Reason : .]

5/18/2016 8:51:09 AM

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Yet again cnn buries the results the day after a bernie win. The main page even says "sanders, clinton split". I know people realize they are pro clinton by now but im just driving home the point for the people who dont think the media has influenced the race.

5/18/2016 9:00:51 AM

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^^ dude, c'mon, you are angry

5/18/2016 9:02:56 AM

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nah, sorry. I'm really not. you thinking I'm angry - trying to apply an easy to dismiss label on me - is just your way of coping with bernie losing. said it before, and I'll say it again. you need someone to point your finger at and say "there's the bad guy"



[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 9:34 AM. Reason : .]

5/18/2016 9:32:29 AM

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why is this so personal to you? just tell us bruh

5/18/2016 9:34:33 AM

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lol k

5/18/2016 9:35:01 AM

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First, go read the headlines Politico says on their front page about the Democratic primary.

Then, go read the headlines Washington Post says on their front page about the Democratic primary.

See if they strike you as incredibly different.

5/18/2016 3:22:06 PM

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it would be easier for you to quote them here so we can see what you're trying to say, given the headlines change by the minute on those sites

5/18/2016 3:25:01 PM

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if hillary won, the cover would have been a huge picture of her smiling face and 1000pt font
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"CLINTON SWEEPS OREGON"

5/18/2016 6:35:48 PM

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on which site? the implication of ^^^ is that they're covering things differently

Bernie endorser calls out Bernie Bros and compares them, just as I long have, to Trump supporters

http://time.com/4339865/bernie-sanders-supporters-violence/

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"But what’s perhaps most disconcerting to me about the events in Nevada is that if you remove the ideological valence, it’s easy to see an anti-establishment movement rising across the U.S. that is disturbingly proto-violent. Let me be clear: I am all for populist mass social movements and even anti-elite revolutions. The sooner the better. But what I am not for is hate and violence in the service of those ends, movements that seek to lift up their marginalized base by marginalizing others.

This is the philosophy behind Trump."


but she's probably just "angry"

5/18/2016 7:23:11 PM

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"Hillary Clinton Lying for 13 Minutes Straight"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

pretty much an extended version of what Jon Stewart's Daily Show used to do on politicians

5/18/2016 8:05:54 PM

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i stopped at the gay marriage thing. i have no time for people who call evolving your stance on civil rights "lying"

5/18/2016 10:02:31 PM

The E Man
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i have no time for candidates who evolve their stance 10 years late on every issue.

5/18/2016 10:08:03 PM

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^^ Except that isn't what she actually says but then again I know how confusing it must be when she constantly says different and conflicting things

5/18/2016 10:09:48 PM

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^^yeah, you prefer your candidates to evolve 30 years late, like becoming democrat after a career as an independent

[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 10:12 PM. Reason : ,]

5/18/2016 10:12:38 PM

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deciding to become president is not "evolving a stance". Bernie's been on the right side of the issues the whole time.

5/18/2016 10:15:36 PM

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I don't think I would have liked the democratic party that nominated Jimmy Carter, either.

And I don't really like the democratic party that's nominating Hillary Clinton.

5/19/2016 12:37:46 AM

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All CNN could say about the Nevada Convention was that Bernie supporters were "chucking chairs" and Barbara Boxer was "fearful for her life" (for whatever reason a California senator was doing at the Nevada convention), and didn't show any video evidence of anything other than people shouting at each other.

What they failed to talk about was all the bullshit that actually happened there.

https://www.facebook.com/VivaBernie2016/videos/1615259272126896/

[Edited on May 19, 2016 at 1:36 AM. Reason : -]

5/19/2016 1:34:39 AM

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What, Sanders supporters acting like Trump supporters? No way.

5/19/2016 8:24:12 AM

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Regarding the Nevada shenanigans....

http://www.politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/may/18/jeff-weaver/allegations-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/

5/19/2016 8:41:47 AM

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This is a repeat of 2012 with Ron Paul and the Republican effort to disenfranchise his supporters.

5/19/2016 11:07:39 AM

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Paul didn't have as much support

5/19/2016 11:16:38 AM

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So many of these reports are saying Sanders supporters are upset with the result, sore losers that they didn't come out on top.

But the truth is that it's about the process. When a vote is called for before all the delegates were in the room and delegates of one candidate are disqualified without cause, and when a voice vote clearly went one way and the chair says it went the other, that's straight up negligence of the democratic process.

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"And trying to determine the outcome of a voice vote from a video of around 3,000 delegates is somewhat arbitrary to begin with."


And trying to determine the outcome of a voice vote in person was a good idea? It gives one person the power to decide the outcome without an actual count.

[Edited on May 19, 2016 at 3:20 PM. Reason : -]

5/19/2016 3:17:46 PM

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".@BernieSanders' campaign will pick a third of the influential Democratic convention drafting committee"


This is good and exactly why he hasn't stopped pressing forward. Though that time is approaching soon...

5/24/2016 12:24:41 PM

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Plenty of reasons to stay in until the convention. The FBI investigation is another.

5/24/2016 12:42:14 PM

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haha holy shit seth abramson with another whopper of an article for huffpo

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/on-bernie-sanders-and-exp_b_10077684.html

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"What it means for the only generation that will matter in just a few short decades — Generation Y, (though of course even the term itself is a monstrosity born of the now-fully-past) — is that a journalism that simply instantiates the metanarrative of least resistance, and looks for whatever sequencing of phenomena would suggest the most synchronicity with the past (and present), is no longer palatable to the overwhelming majority of young people in this country."


it's a shopping list of psuedo-intellectualism

5/24/2016 7:57:07 PM

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I know it won't happen but logically speaking, california voters should all be switching over from Hilary now that they see she has a good chance of losing to trump. Other voters didn't get the chance to see these most recent polls and a certain % (is it 70?) of the vote would be enough for sanders to win the nomination.

5/24/2016 8:24:29 PM

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You honestly think Trump has a chance against Hillary? Is that a thing now? Hillary is in trouble?

5/24/2016 8:37:40 PM

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We won't get a feel for where Trump stands until Hillary gets the nom and we see what Bernie's supporters do.

Clinton is still favored, but she's been trending closer to Trump, and they're even in some polls.

5/24/2016 8:54:41 PM

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The RCP average has her down .2

Idc if she's still in a primary battle, that is a reflection of how terrible a candidate she is.

5/24/2016 9:04:27 PM

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lol primary "battle"

5/24/2016 9:06:50 PM

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"We won't get a feel for where Trump stands until Hillary gets the nom and we see what Bernie's supporters do."

of course. once bernie drops out and there is no turning back. only then we will be able to admit hillary is in trouble so we can beg all the people who were right about her to turn around and vote for her. then when trump wins we can put all the blame independents for not voting for the weak candidate you nominated. get real.

5/24/2016 9:55:17 PM

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5/24/2016 10:32:19 PM

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Hilarious. Bernie, whose largest delegate haul to date was the Washington caucus, just got trounced by Hillary in the Washington primary. Funny what happens when people don't have to waste hours to vote.

But I guess the "undemocratic" shit Bernie and his Bros constantly cry about doesn't include his reliance on caucus victories.

5/25/2016 5:54:33 AM

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the democratic primary in washington uses the caucus to determine delegates, why would anyone put any effort into the primary?

5/25/2016 7:08:29 AM

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Yeah that is wasting resources on something that literally has no impact whatsoever.

In any case, Earl is up in here defending Trump on a regular basis. Odd thing for a Sanders supporter to be doing IMO...

5/25/2016 10:46:10 AM

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It's Earl.

5/25/2016 10:55:40 AM

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a 20-31% chance is not THAT odd.

I would never be part of the 20% who actually support trump but i only really disagree with him on the bigotry and could never vote for him because of that. I actually like a lot of the other stuff he says.

Being an anti-establishment populist resonates with a lot of bernie supporters. Getting rid of the political system ran by these corrupt parties is one of the biggest goals of bernie supporters and trump represents a lot of that sentiment.

Clinton is a hypocrite criticizing him for hoping the crisis would occur while she was actively allowing the crisis to occur. I don't know which is worse but at least it was trump doing his job whereas politicians are actually the people whose job is to prevent that sort of thing.

5/25/2016 4:37:55 PM

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I'm confused, does that chart say that 10% of Clinton supporters would not vote for Clinton?

And what about those undecided between Clinton and Sanders?

5/25/2016 6:52:56 PM

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yeah those would be the #neverbernie folks supporting clinton now just to stop bernie

[Edited on May 25, 2016 at 7:14 PM. Reason : undecideds not included in either chart]

5/25/2016 7:12:45 PM

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How do Bernie supporters justify Bernie's actions the last couple of weeks with regards to helping the democratic party? He's agreed to a debate with Trump on Fox News which will turn into a 2 hour Clinton-bashing show. Trump will compliment Sanders in an attempt to sway Sanders Independents to Trump. He's spreading this notion that, despite losing the popular vote by 2-3 million (depending on if you include caucuses), the only reason Clinton is because the system is rigged for her. He's essentially going "Bernie or Bust."

I used to be a fan of Bernie, but holy shit, these actions will help Trump in the general. Dude is in it for himself at this point. What can you expect from someone who joined the DNC eight months ago.

5/26/2016 8:09:30 AM

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because it's Sanders' fault that Clinton declined debating him?

look, it's not Sanders' job to help Clinton win, he has run an extremely friendly campaign towards her and has made almost no attacks against her. Sanders' campaign is not hurting Clinton, if he was really all about himself he would have been going hard on issues like this email stuff

5/26/2016 8:50:23 AM

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