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Reprsentin' the SEC! (opera voice)

4/3/2013 11:30:26 PM

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The NCAA won't do squat to Auburn. They already just brushed the scandal to get Cam to Auburn aside so why would they care about this latest news. Maybe they'll slap Aubrun with a 1 year bowl ban to teach them a lesson. If they had an sack at all, Newton would have never played in the National Championship game.

Time for State to start cheating our asses off too so maybe we can be relevant in a sport.




[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM. Reason : sd]

4/4/2013 10:44:46 AM

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It worked in bball

4/4/2013 12:18:01 PM

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"Maybe they'll slap Aubrun with a 1 year bowl ban"


retroactive to last season

4/4/2013 12:22:11 PM

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With what the NCAA has let UNC get away with why would any school even be worried about something like this?

4/4/2013 1:56:58 PM

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http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/04/18/2834915/honored-unc-employee-talks-of.html

4/18/2013 11:05:40 PM

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^
What?

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"But because those athletes weren’t prepared to succeed academically in college, they couldn’t pursue an educational path that would have led to opportunities in education and business, Willingham said Thursday during a luncheon that honored her for detailing how ill-prepared athletes stayed eligible at UNC.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/04/18/2834915/honored-unc-employee-talks-of.html#storylink=cpy"

4/18/2013 11:08:20 PM

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^^^
They now have tougher penalties in place for the type of shit UNC did.... convenient.

[Edited on April 18, 2013 at 11:10 PM. Reason : add another ^]

4/18/2013 11:09:45 PM

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More PR bullshit, and then some more... the scandal is nearing its end... and UNC will go unscathed


If only we had hired a PR dept in the 80s

[Edited on April 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM. Reason : .]

4/18/2013 11:30:52 PM

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Ubelievable. She admits that UNC steered athletes. She admits that she saw cheating and didn't report it to NCAA. But nothing?

4/19/2013 7:48:00 AM

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And she gets an award for standing up for academic integrity in the face of athletics

4/19/2013 12:26:35 PM

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^

Give her all the awards, invite her to Talley, let her sing.

4/19/2013 12:51:45 PM

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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/83897/unc-prof-not-dropping-academic-scandal

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"The North Carolina academic scandal, which embroiled the school's African and Afro-American Studies department in accusations of fraud motivated by athletic success, has long since moved off the radar. In December, a probe by former North Carolina Governor Jim Martin found that students in the AFAM department of all stripes, athlete or no, benefited from weird advantages in the department, such as "unauthorized grade changes, forged faculty signatures on grade rolls and limited or no class time," as Robbi Pickeral wrote at the time.
"This was not an athletic scandal," former North Carolina Governor Jim Martin told UNC's board of trustees. "It was an academic scandal, which is worse."

That may be so, and is a failure in its own right. But if UNC athletes were frequently enrolled in those classes, the athletic department did its players a disservice disguised as a favor, which is what one former Tar Heels professor -- Mary Willingham, who first blew the whistle on the dozens of UNC athletes being passed through no-show "independent study" courses across a number of years -- keeps loudly saying within ear shot of the media.

The News & Observer of Raleigh was in the building last week when Willingham, who is still a UNC professor, received the Robert Maynard Hutchins Award from The Drake Group, which "is given annually to a university faculty or staff member who defends the institution’s academic integrity in the face of college athletics." The Drake Group's stated mission is to “to defend academic integrity in higher education from the corrosive aspects of commercialized college sports.” During her remarks, Willingham remained as vocal as ever:
“Many athletes told me what they would like to study,” she said. “And listen to what we did. Instead, we directed them to an array of mismatched classes that have a very, very long history of probable (athletic) eligibility. And sadly, it’s still happening."

Willingham, who worked as a learning and reading specialist inside UNC’s academic support program for athletes, talked Thursday about her struggle to combat the system. She spoke of NCAA paperwork that arrived annually that required a signature and promise that she hadn’t seen cheating, or been a part of it.

“I’ve got to tell you that most of the time, I scribbled my initials on it,” Willingham said. “So yeah, I lied. I saw it – I saw cheating. I saw it, I knew about it, I was an accomplice to it, I witnessed it. And I was afraid, and silent, for so long.”

Willingham is still an assistant director in the center for student services and academic counseling, but she no longer works with athletes, many of whom she insisted were not ready to do real academic work when they arrived at North Carolina. Her list of issues runs the gamut -- athletes go to school whether they're academically prepared or not, they take whatever classes they need to get by, professors take it easy on them, and on and on. It's all very typical, really, the kind of thing we quietly assume happens at most big college athletics programs.

Of course, this is not only an insult to the players, and laughable hypocrisy in the face of the larger NCAA amateurism debate, but it's also hugely disrespectful of university faculty, people for whom intellectual respect is kind of, you know, a thing. It's probably not a good idea to make these people feel like toy soldiers. That will surely backfire, as it did at UNC."


the comments that follow this article are gold

4/25/2013 1:29:47 PM

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I hope this will be an ESPN 30 for 30 some day.

4/25/2013 1:31:26 PM

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ESPN Presents 30 for 30: How UNC Got Their 5 Retroactively Vacated National Championships Back. A heartwarming story of how a perpetual cheating machine had it all taken away, but fought back in a victory for titans of academic fraud everywhere. Given an honor luncheon by USC presented by Reggie Bush.

4/25/2013 1:52:23 PM

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hahahahahaha Forte just won the thread

4/25/2013 1:56:17 PM

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http://deadspin.com/sadistic-media-targeted-carolina-way-whinges-ex-unc-508575547
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Sadistic Media Targeted "Carolina Way," Whinges Ex-UNC Chancellor

Pro tip for anyone trying to make sense of a scandal. If the person at the center of it starts claiming that "the media" are persecuting them, it's usually (though not always) a solid bet that they are patently full of shit. It's the equivalent of shooting the messenger and then claiming self-defense.

I'll leave you to decide what you make of the remarks by James Moeser, who was the chancellor of the University of North Carolina from 2000 to 2008, reported in Chapel Hill Magazine:

"I think [the media] has really put a target on the university, and they’ve treated The Carolina Way in a very cynical fashion, trashing it, really, and indicating The Carolina Way was always just a fiction, a façade we put in front of misbehavior. I really resent that. I think The Carolina Way is genuine, I think it’s real. I’m really angry about the [media]. I think they target people, and they take pleasure in bringing people down. I think their real goal here was to remove banners from the Smith Center. The fact is The Carolina Way goes back to Dean Smith, the idea of achieving excellence while maintaining the highest levels of ethics, fair play and playing within the rules. [They have] tried to tarnish something that is quite noble in its concept. It also does a great disservice to Eve Carson, who talked about The Carolina Way in terms of caring more about others than one’s self, indeed to be selfless, even sacrificial."

Now, really. If there's anyone whose apple has been polished by the media more than the likes of Dean Smith please, point 'em out. If I recall, Sports Illustrated once dubbed him Sportsman of the Year for precisely the notion that he was "achieving excellence while maintaining the highest levels of ethics, fair play and playing within the rules." Or, to quote from that 1997 cover story on Smith: "[H]is teams won, his players graduated, the rules went unbroken. But we honor him as much as anything for his conscientiousness in pulling off that trifecta." Hardly sneering stuff, and probably representative of the tone of coverage when a person's running an apparently clean, consistently successful program. In a word, it is fair. And it's glowing steady coverage of the sort that made North Carolina basketball perhaps the closest thing to America's national brand of college hoops. Media made that possible.

Likely Moeser had a different outlet in mind when he said media "take pleasure in bringing people down." I will vouch that it is true. Many reporters do enjoy taking people down. The qualifier on that is, they like taking down rogues, blackguards and sanctimonious blowhards who oversee Potemkin degree programs for athletes who never attend class and who do no schoolwork, as the News & Observer reported was the case under Moeser at UNC. If pointing out such a sham meets your definition of tarnishing something "quite noble in its concept," then you either need to reassess your concept of tarnishment or you need to apply your noble concept as noble deed. Otherwise, take your medicine — and have the horse sense not to use a murdered student as a human shield against people who tell the public about academic fraud."


http://www.chapelhillmagazine.com/blogs/chapel-hill-magazine-blog/moeser-defends-the-carolina-way/

5/19/2013 11:19:59 AM

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LOL, referencing Eve Carson? Stay classy UNC!

5/19/2013 11:23:55 AM

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wow

5/19/2013 11:39:01 AM

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http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/05/18/2902914/report-omitted-crowders-athletic.html

5/19/2013 1:30:15 PM

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i fucking love Dan Kane

5/19/2013 1:32:42 PM

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fake classes? no problem

using school water to wash your car? that's a violation: https://twitter.com/CoachReveno/status/339782449494097920

5/29/2013 7:19:17 PM

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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9348194/holden-thorp-leaving-north-carolina-tar-heels-chancellor

6/6/2013 11:16:40 AM

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"@DerekRowles 6m
#BreakingNews - @UNC_Basketball player PJ Hairston arrested on drug charges. PJH out on bond. #UNC is aware, waiting to comment"

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"Hairston arrested with 2 other men (Miykael Faulcon and Carlos Sanford) .. all charged w/poss. PJH also charged with driving w/o license."

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MORE: Hairston arrest happened around 10:20pm last night during a license checkpoint in East Durham #UNC"

6/6/2013 12:00:11 PM

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I :heart: this thread

6/6/2013 12:04:21 PM

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There is no good reason to be in East Durham at night, none.

6/6/2013 12:04:46 PM

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Performance enhancing __________?

6/6/2013 12:09:47 PM

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It's not mine occifer...I swear

6/6/2013 12:09:55 PM

Lionheart
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Glad they set up checkpoints to keep all that crime from Chapel Hill from streaming into Durham.

Honestly though its just some weed so its not a big deal other than its Carolina and I hate them.

6/6/2013 12:14:47 PM

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So, will he be off the team?

6/6/2013 12:15:23 PM

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I doubt there's even a suspension. This isn't a big deal, just now we have a counter for when carolina fans want to get all up in arms about our football players smoking in a room from a few years back.

Its not like its possession with intent or anything like that.

6/6/2013 12:19:44 PM

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If Dean was the coach, this wouldnt even reach the papers

6/6/2013 12:24:07 PM

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lol from packpride:
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"Other uncch students have been arrested on drug charges, so this is really not an issue."

6/6/2013 12:36:15 PM

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Unfortunately, nothing will come of this. But I sure as fuck wish it would. Their team drops significantly without PJ in the lineup.

6/6/2013 12:37:02 PM

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"@JeremyAllen325: Then awarded 3 credit hours for criminal justice by unc. RT @wral UNC basketball player charged with pot possession http://t.co/PSuwK4XSVV"


Lolol

6/6/2013 12:49:13 PM

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They caught him with

PERFORMANCE

ENHANCING

WEED

6/6/2013 1:01:11 PM

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"@joeovies: RT @tarheelblog: According to Greg Barnes at IC, Hairston's discipline will be handled internally. No missed games or practice."


Mug gonna run some laps

6/6/2013 2:13:33 PM

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He's gonna have to sit out the first dance at Late Night With Roy

6/6/2013 2:30:24 PM

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^^

So will they not test him. If found positive for marijuana, that could be a suspension correct?

6/6/2013 2:40:59 PM

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The Carolina family always supports its players.

6/6/2013 2:47:35 PM

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That espn article is fucking unbelievable. UNC is exposed to be the dirtiest program in college sports history and they come out the victims. Fuck fuck fuuuuuuuuuck!

[Edited on June 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM. Reason : ...]

6/6/2013 8:30:50 PM

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#BreakingNews -- DPD confirms a gun was found on the ground outside the car driven by PJ Hairston. Forensics being done right now #ABC11"


Now the weed aint a big deal, but this could be a problem.

6/7/2013 10:18:11 AM

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No big deal. Don't other students have guns at UNC ?

6/7/2013 10:26:27 AM

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Guns are like Swahili. Most non-athletes don't have them, but they could have if they wanted.

6/7/2013 10:31:42 AM

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Awesome. What's next? Dead body in the trunk I believe.

6/7/2013 11:20:26 AM

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#BreakingNews -- DPD stating evidence found linking PJ Hairston to Eve Carson's murder #ABC11""

6/7/2013 11:28:06 AM

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" @ErinESummers: Hairston was cited w/ having a 9MM, a mag w/ 9 rounds, plastic baggies, 3 cigars & half an ounce of marijuana"

6/7/2013 12:43:30 PM

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Ooops. I hope this all turns out to be true.

6/7/2013 12:48:45 PM

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Can someone make sense of the police report. I see 41 beside the pot. I also see poss/sell in one of the lines

6/7/2013 1:08:36 PM

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Other than trying to be tuff, why does a UNC basketball player think he needs to carry around a loaded weapon? I mean you are in fucking Chapel Hill, I don't think think they allow people making less than 100Gs to live in that city unless you are a UNC student. You are not going to get robbed or beat up. Maybe he felt he needed protection in Durham =

Oh well, this will have zero bearing on his basketball career at UNC. At worst he gets suspended for some cupcake games at the beginning of the year.



[Edited on June 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM. Reason : rt]

6/7/2013 1:10:52 PM

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