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"the most compelling evidence being that the plans laid out in the Protocols have been subsequently implemented"

omg so you mean to say that if I sit down and write up a salisburyboy protocol and, in it, describe plans to sabatoge TWW with stupid and senseless topics, that will be most compelling evidence that you are just a big old stupid troll?

nice! and you will be forced to believe it since there won't be any proof that it was a hoax - I mean, like you said, its hard to argue with the fact that the plans laid out in the Protocols have been subsequently implemented

4/27/2006 2:21:40 PM

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"who saw them dance?"

http://web.archive.org/web/20031202162323/http://www.sundayherald.com/37707

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"Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 Sunday Herald 02 November 2003 [...] It’s not surprising that the New Jersey housewife who first spotted the five Israelis and their white van wants to preserve her anonymity. She’s insisted that she only be identified as Maria. A neighbour in her apartment building had called her just after the first strike on the Twin Towers. Maria grabbed a pair of binoculars and, like millions across the world, she watched the horror of the day unfold. As she gazed at the burning towers, she noticed a group of men kneeling on the roof of a white van in her parking lot. Here’s her recollection: “They seemed to be taking a movie. They were like happy, you know ... they didn’t look shocked to me. I thought it was strange.” Maria jotted down the van’s registration and called the police. The FBI was alerted and soon there was a statewide all points bulletin put out for the apprehension of the van and its occupants. The cops traced the number, establishing that it belonged to a company called Urban Moving. Police Chief John Schmidig said: “We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side. Three individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They said three people were jumping up and down.”"

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"just a question....in my quest for undeniable conclusive proof....are dancing israelis the best you got?? cause before it was fake pictures of osama...but has that been replaced by dancing jews??"

It's certainly one of the biggest smoking guns. And it's far from the only example of Mossad/Israeli involvement, as I have shown in this thread.

4/27/2006 2:23:09 PM

ok...just wanted to make sure of that....

cause if your goal here ...is to persuade people to "your side"....and the best evidence you can provide is that some jews were dancing when 9/11 happened.....than....ya know....

4/27/2006 2:24:59 PM

so an anonymous source is the best you've got to verify these dancing jews

4/27/2006 2:25:34 PM

Are you saying that these 5 Israelis didn't exist? Because they were taken into custody and detained by the police.

4/27/2006 2:27:09 PM

so 1 anonymous source supposedly saw people dancing

interesting

last saturday night i saw hundreds of people dancing

CALL THE FBI!!!!

4/27/2006 2:28:04 PM

haha....again with the...."ARE YOU DENYING?!!?!?'...."ARE YOU SAYING THEY DONT EXIST?!?!"


no dude...we arent saying that....well....im not....all im saying is...if thats your undeniable conclusive proof....then this case would not even go to trial

4/27/2006 2:28:30 PM

They were detained by police. Bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they detected explosives in their van. The police found other evidence, including maps with areas highlighted that lead them to believe that they were involved in the WTC attack.

So are you saying these 5 Israelis didn't exist? Or are you just saying they weren't celebrating the WTC attack like the witnesses said?

4/27/2006 2:31:50 PM

haha....dude....READ THE POSTS!!....you have already told us that they were dancing...you have told us how the dogs reacted...blah blah blah...

im not sure i should do this...but i will conceede that they exist...AND ...that they were dancing...the point still remains....

SO FREAKIN WHAT!?!?!?...are you mad they were happy??....i mean....my granddad is jewish...and i have a crazy uncle who was happy that 9/11 happened....was he in on it too???

4/27/2006 2:33:38 PM

OMG THEY FOUND A MAP IN A MOVING FAN

STOP THE PRESSES

THEIR DOGS ALSO WENT NUTS FOR NO REASON!!!

THEY DIDN'T FIND SHIT!!!

Quote :

"are you just saying they weren't celebrating the WTC attack like the witnesses said?"

your cute little article said 1 witness, which is unnamed.

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 2:35 PM. Reason : *]

4/27/2006 2:34:12 PM

http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2001/09/13/story23625.asp

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"Suspects `filmed New York atrocities' TCM News Thursday, September 13, 2001 There are reports five men suspected of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up cameras to record the atrocity. The men set up cameras by the Hudson River and trained them on the twin towers. The New York Times reports they congratulated each other when the crashes occurred. The five are under investigation by police in Union City, New Jersey, but it is unclear if any of them are in custody."

So, they had cameras "trained" on the towers BEFORE the crashes, and then "congratulated each other when the crashes occured."


http://web.archive.org/web/20011108025936/http:/www.bergen.com/news/2bombvan200109125.htm

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"Five men detained as suspected conspirators New Jersey Bergen Record Wednesday, September 12, 2001 By PAULO LIMA Staff Writer About eight hours after terrorists struck Manhattan's tallest skyscrapers, police in Bergen County detained five men who they said were found carrying maps linking them to the blasts. The five men, who were in a van stopped on Route 3 in East Rutherford around 4:30 p.m., were being questioned by police but had not been charged with any crime late Tuesday. The Bergen County Police bomb squad X-rayed packages found inside the van but did not find any explosives, authorities said. However, sources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot. "There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted," the source said. "It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." Sources also said that bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives, although officers were unable to find anything. The FBI seized the van for further testing, authorities said."

4/27/2006 2:35:25 PM

i like how salisburyboy presents these two random ass choices

EITHER
1. THEY DIDN'T EXIST AT ALL
OR
2. THEY DID THIS

THERE IS NO OTHER VARIABLE

4/27/2006 2:36:04 PM

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"So, they had cameras "trained" on the towers BEFORE the crashes, and then "congratulated each other when the crashes occured.""

according to whom?

4/27/2006 2:36:27 PM

AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote :

"haha....dude....READ THE POSTS!!....you have already told us that they were dancing...you have told us how the dogs reacted...blah blah blah... im not sure i should do this...but i will conceede that they exist...AND ...that they were dancing...the point still remains.... SO FREAKIN WHAT!?!?!?...are you mad they were happy??....i mean....my granddad is jewish...and i have a crazy uncle who was happy that 9/11 happened....was he in on it too??? "

why is his guy reaction to start pasting crap all over the place!?!?!??!

4/27/2006 2:36:41 PM

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"It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.""

fuck stick

you just said they were seen in some parking lot

way to cross the streams

4/27/2006 2:37:00 PM

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm

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"The White Van Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies? Published on Saturday, June 22, 2002 by ABC News [...] The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said. [...] The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was found in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when the five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens. According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." [...] When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases, ABCNEWS has learned. One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation."

The Forward, a Jewish newspaper, admits that these 5 Israelis were Israelli intelligence and were conducting a Mossad mission, but whitewashes it by suggesting they were tracking the "muslims who carried out the attack."

http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html

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"Americans Probing Reports of Israeli Espionage MARCH 15, 2002 By MARC PERELMAN FORWARD STAFF [...] The five Israelis worked for a moving company with few discernable assets that closed up shop immediately afterward and whose owner fled to Israel. [...] According to one former high-ranking American intelligence official, who asked not to be named, the FBI came to the conclusion at the end of its investigation that the five Israelis arrested in New Jersey last September were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, N.J., served as a front."

4/27/2006 2:37:19 PM

all the articles he has on this are from sept. 12, 2001 through the following 6 months when all sorts of crazy ass information was flying all over the place

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 2:38 PM. Reason : *]

4/27/2006 2:37:52 PM

this is the best he can do guys....post the same articles over and over again....its part of his arrogance complex...he thinks that the reason we dont believe him is that we are stupid and uninformed and blind sheep...and that by posting the same BS articles all the time...he can enlighten our poor souls...

4/27/2006 2:38:55 PM

and this is why it boggles me that he is allowed to keep going and going and going

4/27/2006 2:39:29 PM

sheer repitition rarely works, dingus.

4/27/2006 2:39:35 PM

i feel another past coming...wait for it....

4/27/2006 2:42:00 PM

Yeah, there's absolutely no evidence of these 5 Israelis doing anything remotely suspicious.

Filming the attack, seen congratulating each other after the attack, had box cutters, $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, foreign passports, bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had smelled explosives, they were conducting a Mossad mission.

Just forget about it. Before long, nobody will even remember it, and it will be called an "urban legend", "rumor", or "hoax." And only "anti-Semites", "neo-Nazis", and "racist bigots" will bring it up.

4/27/2006 2:44:44 PM

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"bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had smelled explosives"

did they find any explosives??

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"had box cutters"

its a moving van!!!!

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 2:46 PM. Reason : 66]

4/27/2006 2:45:37 PM

PROVE THAT THEY HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT

DO IT NOW

YOU CAN'T

AND UNTIL YOU CAN, YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR FUCKING FACE

I SWEAR TO GOD IF THIS SHIT WENT ON IN REAL LIFE SOMEBODY WOULD'VE SHUT IT FOR YOU BY NOW

AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHUT PERMANENTLY ON HERE BUT IT WON'T SINCE YOU'RE DUKE'S PET PROJECT

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 2:47 PM. Reason : *]

4/27/2006 2:47:14 PM

Quote :

"its a moving van!!!!"

Newsflash: the moving company was merely a front for the Mossad agents. They weren't really movers.

Now back to your mindless rantings.

4/27/2006 2:47:37 PM

Quote :

"Now back to your mindless rantings."

YOU ARE PRECISELY GUILTY OF THIS FOR 25 PAGES AND COUNTLESS OTHER THREADS

4/27/2006 2:48:30 PM

listen brainless....even if it was a front...would the fact that they were fronting as moving company...and they were in a moving van ....explain the existence of box cutters in the van??

thats all im asking

4/27/2006 2:49:36 PM

does that explain the explosive traces in their van too?

4/27/2006 2:50:26 PM

THEY FOUND NO EXPLOSIVES

UNTIL YOU FIND EVIDENCE THAT THERE WERE ANY AND WHERE THEY WENT

SHUT THE FUCK UP

4/27/2006 2:51:39 PM

Quote :

"would the fact that they were fronting as moving company...and they were in a moving van ....explain the existence of box cutters in the van?? "

answer that question....untill you can be honest about even that...nothing you say will matter

maybe i missed it in the article....where were these explosive traces???

4/27/2006 2:52:17 PM

what basis, besides one line in a new zealand newspaper do you have for saying there were explosives?

4/27/2006 3:06:29 PM

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"does that explain the explosive traces in their van too?"

There weren't traces. The dogs reacted like there might have been. A lot of things will test positive as explosives, little buddy. I was in Colorado 2 years ago and everyone who went through screening at the airport tested positive for explosives because the de-iceing agent that the city used on sidewalks contained nitrates. I guess its just absolutely impossible for a moving truck to ever have anything like that in it. Or maps and box cutters, for that matter.

Could you please address these questions? I'm not trying to redirect or distract here. I'm genuinely curious. You made statements regarding all of these questions in this very thread, I would just like you to explain them before moving on. I questioned these claims when they were originally made, but you ignored me. Why won't you answer them?

Why didn't they build a pipeline in 1998? Why did they blow up their own african embassies and then launch a missile attack on Afghanistan? They were set to build a natural gas pipeline with the Taliban then. Why mess that up for no reason?

You don't believe that Afghanistan was invaded for the sake of a pipeline? Then why are you defending that theory so stubbornly?

You just said that Afghanistan was invaded so that a pipeline could be built. Now you're saying that the zionists wanted to prevent the building of a pipeline - just like how Iraq was invaded to secure the oil supply even though the zionists don't care about the oil supply. How do you reconcile all of the conflicting information that you spout off on here?

By the way, how did the zionists cause the US Civil War and the Revolutionary War?

I would also like to see some proof that Pearl Harbor was caused by the evil edomite zionists.

You have provided absolutely no evidence at all that the Rothschilds are the zionists at the top running world events. They were a prominent family that supported the creation of a jewish state, that is all. Please provide some evidence other than "Here are some rich jews!"

So why should anyone believe your rantings anyway You have admitted that you hate jews. As such, you are far from an impartial source when you blame jews for every problem in the world.

How about the bin Laden fatwah? You have never once explained that.

Why is it spamming if I repeat unanswered questions, but it's ok for you to repost the same article in the same thread five times?

4/27/2006 3:09:49 PM

basically the dog hesitated at one spot in the van
and salisbury has turned that into meaning explosives

4/27/2006 3:10:08 PM

Quote :

"would the fact that they were fronting as moving company...and they were in a moving van ....explain the existence of box cutters in the van??"

It might explain it. But they could have had those box cutters for other reasons just as well.

4/27/2006 3:10:42 PM

see heres you making giant leaps instead of looking at obvious logic again

4/27/2006 3:15:41 PM

The 5 Israelis detained near the WTC are only part of the overall story of Mossad/Israeli involvement in 9/11 and Israeli spies in America around 9/11. There were approximately 200 Israeli spies in America around 9/11 gathering intelligence to carry out terrorist attacks, as the FoxNews 4-part series on Israeli spying touched on.

These included other suspicious Israeli "movers" with explosive traces in their vehicles, Israeli spies with video of the Sears Tower, others with oil pipeline and nuclear power plant plans, Israeli "art students" trying to gain access to secure government buildings and DoD sites, and Israeli spies "trailing" (ie, framing ) the supposed named "hijackers."

What do you make of all these other Israeli spies and incidents? No big deal?

4/27/2006 3:25:56 PM

seriously....

option 1) the people in the moving van have box cutters

option 2) the people in the moving van are zionist mossad agents who have been fronting as a moving company for months and have the box cutters because box cutters come in boxes of two. The other one must have been given to the israeli hijackers who were posing as arabs. The other one was left in the moving van.


Please Salis...just keep right on mentioning these "explosive traces". No explosives nor traces of explosives were found. Barking dogs dont prove anything. The more you repeat that the dumber you look. Thats not a smear so dont go crying. Im just telling you

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 3:30 PM. Reason : asdf]

4/27/2006 3:28:29 PM

THIS JUST IN:

MOVERS USE BOXES

4/27/2006 3:30:09 PM

Holy shit! I just realized that theres a box cutter on my kitchen counter! There are also boxes and a map in my car!

Could I be involved?

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 3:32 PM. Reason : 666]

4/27/2006 3:32:09 PM

THIS JUST IN

PEOPLE FILMED 9/11

Sals should know this, since he loves using grainy video to show squibs and shit

hell, the grainier the better, right buddy?

4/27/2006 3:33:25 PM

holy shit holy shit holy shit

i just figured it out

i cant believe i didnt see this earlier...

salisburyboy's own sources are part of it. they have recordings and know all about it, they must have been involved.

4/27/2006 3:39:11 PM

Quote :

"No explosives nor traces of explosives were found."

The article specifically states that the dogs reacted as if they detected explosives.


And I guess the dogs were wrong in this case also, and no explosive traces were really found in these Israeli spies' vehicle either, right?

Mossad Agents Posing as "Movers" Arrested in Washington State in Truck with Explosive Traces
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,52681,00.html

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"Police Seize Rental Truck With TNT Traces Monday, May 13, 2002 By Carl Cameron FOXNews [...] Shortly after midnight on May 7, federal officials say local police pulled the vehicle over for speeding. Documents read to Fox News indicate that the driver and passenger told local police they were delivering furniture from California but that authorities doubted the story because of the early morning hour. A bomb-sniffing dog first detected explosives on one of the men and inside the truck. High-tech equipment was used later to confirm the presence of TNT and RDX plastic explosive. Documents read to Fox News indicate that both driver and passenger were Israeli nationals."

Remeber that the 5 Israeli spies arrested near the WTC on 9/11 claimed to be "movers" and bomb-sniffing dogs detected explosives on them also . But I'm sure this is all another one of those "coincidences." Nothing to see here.


[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 3:44 PM. Reason : ````````]

4/27/2006 3:40:04 PM

i grow tired of the bullshit

y'all have fun

4/27/2006 3:40:05 PM

Quote :

"the most compelling evidence being that the plans laid out in the Protocols have been subsequently implemented"

omg so you mean to say that if I sit down and write up a salisburyboy protocol and, in it, describe plans to sabatoge TWW with stupid and senseless topics, that will be most compelling evidence that you are just a big old stupid troll?

nice! and you will be forced to believe it since there won't be any proof that it was a hoax - I mean, like you said, its hard to argue with the fact that the plans laid out in the Protocols have been subsequently implemented

4/27/2006 3:40:50 PM

Quote :

"The article specifically states that the dogs reacted as if they detected explosives."

ive had a bomb sniffing dog alert to me at an airport before, this was pre 9/11 so the guy just told me that lots of things can trigger it and sent me on my way

4/27/2006 3:43:39 PM

And I guess the dogs were wrong in this case also, and no explosive traces were really found in these Israeli spies' vehicle either, right?

Mossad Agents Posing as "Movers" Arrested in Washington State in Truck with Explosive Traces
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,52681,00.html

Quote :

"Police Seize Rental Truck With TNT Traces Monday, May 13, 2002 By Carl Cameron FOXNews [...] Shortly after midnight on May 7, federal officials say local police pulled the vehicle over for speeding. Documents read to Fox News indicate that the driver and passenger told local police they were delivering furniture from California but that authorities doubted the story because of the early morning hour. A bomb-sniffing dog first detected explosives on one of the men and inside the truck. High-tech equipment was used later to confirm the presence of TNT and RDX plastic explosive. Documents read to Fox News indicate that both driver and passenger were Israeli nationals."

Remeber that the 5 Israeli spies arrested near the WTC on 9/11 claimed to be "movers" and bomb-sniffing dogs detected explosives on them also . But I'm sure this is all another one of those "coincidences." Nothing to see here.

4/27/2006 3:45:38 PM

haha....wow...."uhh....dogs barked like explosives were there" ....yeah...great...did they find any??...no...shut up about that...

if traces were found in the other truck ...fine....dont go saying that traces were found in the one van when clearly you were making it up....

you are basically contradicting your own article which says no explosives were found. SO....you post an article that says no explosives were found...then you try to pull a fast one...(hoping that no one will read the article)...and you try to say that dogs barked AND explosive traces were found....yeah...your credibility (which was basically non-existent already) is shot...THEN....you try to change the subject real fast and say "WELL...EXPLOSIVES WERE FOUND IN THIS ONE"


haha...nice try

4/27/2006 3:48:01 PM

hey guess what, thats from something else

where we were talking about no explosives were found

it even says that in your links


jesus man, just use your peanut sized brain

4/27/2006 3:48:13 PM

D-E-N-I-A-L

4/27/2006 3:48:41 PM

Quote :

"D-E-N-I-A-L"

4/27/2006 3:49:33 PM