This movie and saw had a lot of similarities!!! all the twist and puzzles and pot-holes. This movie wanted to cross the R line sooooo bad. And soo much went on alluding to the fact that there will be more installments.


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what happened to gambles character? He just flopped dead. Did he get his throat slit?

I didn't see when the girl got blown up!! I actually thought she got kidnapped again or they faked her death to mess with batman's head.

Why was bruce wayne being such as asshole to the guy througout the movie? I understand that she was apparently his ex-girl but, the tension/rivarly was unneeded. I felt they could of went another direction for a plot device. Its like, they flawed Bruces character (making him a jealous billionaire asshole) to build harvey dents character (Gothams real hero). Just seemed a bit pointless.

Other than that, this movie gets an 8/10. Great movie, great acting, great story!!!

7/20/2008 11:08:42 PM

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"Well, to be fair, Gordon was the only one where you actually thought that the character was dead"

I might have agreed with you there had they not shown him in one of the previews in the later scene where he turns the Joker over to Batman for interrogation. Even before that you could hear his voice asking about the Joker's identity after they arrested him, but they never showed his face. I knew right away he wasn't dead yet because one of the scenes from the trailer hadn't been shown. Sure, they could have chosen to cut the scene, but not one of that magnitude.

7/20/2008 11:12:23 PM

i knew he wasn't dead because there's no way they'd kill him off before he became commissioner

7/20/2008 11:14:32 PM

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"Why was bruce wayne being such as asshole to the guy througout the movie? I understand that she was apparently his ex-girl but"

Thats pretty much it right there. He might be Batman...but he still gets jealous.

And I don't how someone can say that Dent's bad side of the face looked good. His bad side of the face reminded me of the martians off of "Mars Attacks!" or some bad horror movie where someone's face melts off. Extremely weak...was expecting more out of Two-Face (and don't compare it to Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face...lets just not go there).

7/20/2008 11:22:10 PM

^^^I think Bruce just acted like that to make people think that there's no way someone like him would be Batman.

7/20/2008 11:22:58 PM

^^^^nearly all of your complaints are just kind of stupid.

[Edited on July 20, 2008 at 11:24 PM. Reason : hfdsd]

7/20/2008 11:23:54 PM

Don't get me wrong here, it was a great movie but i wouldn't go see it again. Did anyone else get that feeling? It's kinda weird I know, but it doesn't strike me as the type of movie you'd see over and over.

Oh, I hated the bat-cycle. It looked like a wheelchair on steroids. I laughed so hard in that scene were he and joker were fighting, and batman drove it into the wall to turn it around!! it was as if there was no other way to turn it around other than partially drive it up the wall.

[Edited on July 20, 2008 at 11:29 PM. Reason : /]

7/20/2008 11:24:52 PM

ill buy it

just for all the joker scenes

7/20/2008 11:25:39 PM

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"Don't get me wrong here, it was a great movie but i wouldn't go see it again"

It was a little too draining...I mean shit, it was almost three hours long. I can watch movies like that multiple times if they're filled with action (like the 3rd LOTR or Braveheart)...but this one definitely had a lot of plot developing going on...which stretched it out. Didn't hurt the movie at all...just isn't conducive to watching it on HBO more than one time once it finally comes on.

7/20/2008 11:32:03 PM

I'm waiting for someone to cut all of Ledger's monolouges into a 20-25 minute clip

I could watch that thing on loop for hours and hours...fucking incredible

7/20/2008 11:36:21 PM

Originally, I didn't think Heath Ledger was an obvious choice for the Joker (see the first reply to this thread), but after seeing it, his performance was nothing short of brilliant. Well deserving of the rave reviews.

[Edited on July 20, 2008 at 11:42 PM. Reason : edit.]

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7/20/2008 11:41:39 PM

^^ seriously

I want a clip of the Joker talking to Dent in the hospital.

I'm like a dog chasing a car. I wouldn't know what to do if I caught one.

7/20/2008 11:43:33 PM

me, Friday, noon...

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"anyways, The Dark Knight has possibilities.... I'm just gonna throw this out there 155 million. My range is 145-160 million. I don't see it making much less, or more than that. But 155 sounds like a solid number."

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""The Dark Knight" took in a record $155.34 million in its first weekend, topping the previous best of $151.1 million for "Spider-Man 3" in May 2007 and pacing Hollywood to its biggest weekend ever, according to studio estimates Sunday "

just saying... just saying

[Edited on July 20, 2008 at 11:48 PM. Reason : .]

7/20/2008 11:47:09 PM

A lot of people also pointed out that Ledger might have been a good choice from the beginning, which I didn't. Also worth pointing out how wrong I was. GO SEE THIS MOVIE!!!

7/20/2008 11:49:19 PM

yeah but you work in a movie theater...thats kind of like someone who works for ESPN predicting ratings for a MNF game


nevertheless...gg

7/20/2008 11:53:32 PM

^haha..
yeah, we bet dinner's on who can get closest to film grosses.

I get a lot of free dinners

7/20/2008 11:55:54 PM

we bet dinner's on who can get closest to over-the-weekend weekend market shifts

so far I'm 0 for forever

7/20/2008 11:58:52 PM

I liked the movie a lot, but I CAN'T FUCKING STAND Christian Bale's 'Batman voice.' It's too fucking gravely and distracting. Christian Bale is a great actor, and I like him when he is Bruce Wayne. But his acting (or at least his voice) as Batman sucks ass.

7/21/2008 12:28:26 AM

^ I have to disagree. I think his voice perfectly reflects the anguish and pent up aggression his mild mannered alter ego has to endure. He's two different people, an exuberant billionaire living the high life, and a tortured soul destined to live in the shadows. I think the intensity Bale brings to the Dark Knight is exactly what one would expect from a masked vigilante releasing his own brand of terror on those that feed off the supposed weaknesses of the law abiding.

7/21/2008 12:43:48 AM

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"but I CAN'T FUCKING STAND Christian Bale's 'Batman voice.' It's too fucking gravely and distracting. "

Might actually have to second this. I remember after Batman Begins that people were also saying this, but people defended him by saying that he "had to disguise his voice so that people couldn't figure out that it was Bruce Wayne."

I understand that to a certain extent (although no other superhero does this)...but I think he takes it a little over the top. Especially when he is trying to say something serious...it comes off as extremely corny. I hope he can tone it down for the next movie.

7/21/2008 12:44:37 AM

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"fuck that, they have gary oldman in the movie, and they cast HEATH LEDGER as the joker??"

He was fucking amazing. holy shit

7/21/2008 12:45:04 AM

distracting is a good way to describe his Batman voice. distracting and corny. way over the top

7/21/2008 12:53:23 AM

a man wearing a batsuit is distracting and corny

7/21/2008 12:54:31 AM

yeah i agree about batman's voice, the final conversation between him and joker was just rediculous, its ok when hes pissed but when hes just talking and his face is shaking its a bit much
only complaint

7/21/2008 1:04:43 AM

just got back from the imax showing. lived up to the hype for the most part. heath's role sure did.

only a few pretty minor complaints about the movie and they've already been mentioned, so i'm glad i'm not the only one.....

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"I hated the bat-cycle. It looked like a wheelchair on steroids."

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"does anyone else think Bale's "Batman voice" is a little over the top sometimes"

and also

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"for some reason I was under the impression that Dent's transfiguration into Two Face would be the ending, and that his rise and fall as a villain would be used as the backdrop for a third movie."

i was under the same impression as well. two-face was always my favorite batman villain growing up so to see him "die" so quickly after inflicting such minimal damage (he only killed, what, 5 people?) was a major bummer for me. they could bring him back i guess, but how would they explain it? gotham already had the ceremony and everything for harvey. i guess maybe the authorities knew he wasn't really dead (he snuck away, they faked his death, whatever), but they decided to hold the funeral/ceremony anyway solely for the purpose of gotham city's morale?

and as far as his face looking like the mars attacks martian...the first time they showed his face when he was in the hospital bed i was like wtf thats dumb. but by the end i was diggin it. i saw it on the imax screen, though, so his face was huge and i couldn't really get a good view.

also as far as the next villain goes... i think because ledger's joker was so unique, there's plenty of room for a happy go-lucky madman like the riddler. the joker wasn't so happy go-lucky as he was deranged and psychotic. now the only problem would be comparing the new riddler to jim carrey's riddler, which i thought was awesome. would they want to give another actor the chance to pull off something similar? or would they try a completely different direction like they did with ledger's joker?

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7/21/2008 1:47:45 AM

england still hasn't gotten this movie yet, which is funny since director and star are from the UK.

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7/21/2008 2:05:31 AM

i guess i'm in the minority that thought two-face's makeup was very well done. i imagine thats probably exactly what it would look like if someone had their underlying tissue and bone exposed.

7/21/2008 2:08:56 AM

^ i'm with you. i hadn't heard any complaints until these few people in here.

7/21/2008 2:13:13 AM

I liked the two-face mangled side face a lot.

7/21/2008 3:45:02 AM

I went and saw it yesterday with leftyisreal

Ok, I was entertained by it and loved Ledger, but I was ready for it to end. The last hour was just painful for me to sit there. It just kept going and going. I was shocked that they finished with Two Face in this movie instead of saving him for the next.

Meh.

7/21/2008 7:13:08 AM

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"i was under the same impression as well. two-face was always my favorite batman villain growing up so to see him "die" so quickly after inflicting such minimal damage (he only killed, what, 5 people?) was a major bummer for me. they could bring him back i guess, but how would they explain it? gotham already had the ceremony and everything for harvey. i guess maybe the authorities knew he wasn't really dead (he snuck away, they faked his death, whatever), but they decided to hold the funeral/ceremony anyway solely for the purpose of gotham city's morale?"

maybe I read too much into it during the movie, but I actually assumed he DIDNT actually die at the end of the movie and was wondering how they were going to tie that into the next movie. As far as I saw it, the funeral went along with what Bale said when he turned him over to his good side when harvey was laying "dead" on the ground. Said something about not having the rest of Gotham find out about him and having him die as the Hero/White Knight instead of a villain. So I actually just assumed the funeral was for those purposes and that somehow he wasnt actually dead there. (Because yea it would be weird to kill him off now).

and also, his face looked really similar to what I remember in most comic books so Im not that sure why people are complaining so much. I thought it looked great.

7/21/2008 7:34:15 AM

It was pretty good. There were only two issues I had:

1) Didn't Bruce get sniped in that one scene? They showed him getting sniped but never showed him dealing with the consequences of it... like either removing a bullet proof vest and breathing a sigh of relief or limping home to lick his wounds and having a weakness that could be exploited in future fight scenes.

2) The criminals boat v. the boat full of citizens. At first I felt like the setup was a bit forced. Why would they put the criminals on one of the first boats out of town when they are trying to evacuate a city of 30 million? Then I realized that they were probably doing it as a precaution because they were afraid that the joker would let them all out of prison.

A good movie all in all. Didn't have a problem with the look of two face. Not sure what those that are complaining would have him look like. The riddler would probably be a nice fit in this batman universe that is more grounded in reality, the only concern being that in some ways the riddler would be very similar in nature to the joker - playing mind games with batman and trying to attack his psyche. I'm not sure what other villain they could use.

Harley Quinn?
Ventriloquist/Scarface

I could have been seeing things, but in one of the scenes where the joker was in a cell with inmates behind him it looked like there was one inmate that had the same physique as Burton's penguin... I'm sure it was just some random short, fat guy.

7/21/2008 8:07:44 AM

Batman sounds like Assy McGee

7/21/2008 8:51:13 AM

I was under the impression that Dent probably didn't die.

7/21/2008 8:55:30 AM

batman uses that voice as a disguise. i love it actually.

7/21/2008 9:05:06 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Batman_enemies

7/21/2008 9:22:41 AM

all I kept thinking when Harvey Dent turned into Two-Face was, how the hell didnt his eyeball dry out. I kept extra blinking my eye just thinking about it

maybe I'm weird

7/21/2008 9:26:45 AM

7/21/2008 9:27:57 AM

^^I'd enjoy seeing a "how the fuck did they do that" for twoface's makeup

7/21/2008 9:32:20 AM

So stupid question:

Is the imax version of this film only 2 hours? I remember seeing Episode 2 and Apollo 13 there and they had to cut out parts due to the projector heating up too much after that length of time.

7/21/2008 9:36:10 AM

I guess I'm in the minority here

the length of the movie was fine with me

Two-Face's face didn't bother me at all

and I've always loved Bale's Batman voice

7/21/2008 9:36:28 AM

The theme of this movie actually reminds me a lot of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns (with a bit of a post-9/11 spin).

The movie seems to propose that civilized society sits precariously close to the edge of chaos and that a handful of right-minded men and women should be allowed to exist above the law to keep us from falling into the abyss. I'm sure George Bush fans will love that Batman is also a fan of warrantless wiretapping.

I'm not sure I buy all of the movie's arguments, but I'm glad that it at least has arguments to make. I love fun superhero movies like Iron Man, but I think it's also important to demonstrate that stories involving men wearing capes and makeup can still deal with serious topics. Plus, can you imagine such complex characters in a Superman movie?

PS* Watch Dark Knight in the IMAX if you can. It's def. worth the $$.

7/21/2008 9:36:35 AM

im probably going to try the imax thing sometime in charlotte or raleigh. dont have one here in greenville, sc

7/21/2008 9:43:42 AM

The Joker is alive.

Heath Ledger is dead.

We can never get a repeat performance.

Now THAT'S comedy!

7/21/2008 9:50:02 AM

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"Is the imax version of this film only 2 hours? I remember seeing Episode 2 and Apollo 13 there and they had to cut out parts due to the projector heating up too much after that length of time."

it's full length

They upgraded the projectors in the imax a few years ago and it can now handle running long movies and the like.

7/21/2008 9:50:24 AM

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"I'd enjoy seeing a "how the fuck did they do that" for twoface's makeup"

I don't know shit about movie makeup or CGI...

But I'm under the impression that it was computer-generated because it looked so damn fake.

7/21/2008 9:56:09 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwDiXlZlwds

this is the one scene where I really thought the disguised voice was appropriate, it's so badass

embed plz

7/21/2008 10:02:58 AM

man i loved his face. but then again i dont go to movies to sit and nitpick about how fake something looks.

7/21/2008 10:04:22 AM

I must be the only one on here that had problems with the face (and I'm not nitpicky at all about movies). But I was sitting with two friends who thought it was ridiculous. I'd be fine with a face like that in a movie like "Mummy Returns"...but not Batman.

7/21/2008 10:07:09 AM

Watching Six Feet Under last night, and Jeremy Sisto plays a diagnosed manic-depressive

In the episode we saw, he was wandering around his apartment in his underwear, screaming and being irrationally emotional. And I said, "hey, this guy could be the joker if they ever needed that character again." Everyone laughed, but then agreed.



I know Ledger was 100% amazing in the role, but I think if they needed an Arkham scene or something, anything is possible. I'm sure there are even more capable actors than Sisto who could do a scene or two.

Let's not forget, Joker is INSANE. He can be anything after a short stint drugged-up in Arkham (though, admittedly, the role as Ledger plays it seems very medicated. Like, methamphetamines )

7/21/2008 10:08:15 AM