Orr shouldn't get any, his arms were in and he kept his hands (first contact yes, but he didn't lead with them) under the collarbones. It was a charge, but that's all.

Avery will probably get 2-3 for the punch he threw under the linesman...all the other flailing was just crap that agitators do to get the crowd and other team riled up.

12/27/2007 12:27:17 AM

2-3 games at least for Orr hit; that was dirty, he lead with his hands/stick

12/27/2007 12:27:36 AM

He didn't lead with them. Yes, his hands were out front, but they were tucked to his chest because otherwise he would've been leading with his face into a hard plastic visor. Leading with your hands is extending them out in front, which is not what Orr did.

12/27/2007 12:37:29 AM

if his hands were tucked into his chest he would have been leading with his face; his hands were the first things that hit Cullen; all that aside, it was a unnecessary shot to the head and should be a suspension

12/27/2007 1:10:44 AM

HE DIDN'T HIT CULLEN'S HEAD

Watch the video. Hands/chest to chest. The hands fly up a little as he follows through, but it's not a Stevens-style arm extension, it's just uncontrolled momentum.

12/27/2007 1:15:39 AM

No way man, steven's was a master at the shoulder check

12/27/2007 1:18:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g2WyoNSu30
he clearly leads with his hands to the face; if it was clean he would have turned his body to hit him with his shoulder; the 5 min. interference penalty was bogus though

12/27/2007 1:25:07 AM

^^ Yeah, he'd put his shoulder under your chin to make sure the hit was clean, then at the moment of contact he'd extend with his forearm and put bone on jaw. Orr's hands hit Cullen's collarbones; it's clean.

12/27/2007 1:30:38 AM

I guess the league will have to decide; I say 2-3 games for head shot; hope Cullen doesn't miss much time

12/27/2007 1:32:52 AM

Watch the video at 3:20. He's got his hands tucked and they contact the upper chest, then Cullen's head snaps down and slams into Orr's gloves. It's not a head shot.

With that said, I'd like to see what Nolan thinks of really putting that #36 Canes sweater back to work.

12/27/2007 1:36:19 AM

Quote :

"the hit may have been clean, but a career dirty player isn't going to get any benefit of the doubt"

A career dirty player? Are you kidding me?

Also: http://downloads.rangers.nhl.com/audio/RangersVictorySong.mp3

12/27/2007 3:25:00 AM

sean avery is a piece of shit

why the fuck do you single out trevor letowski when walker and ladd are our fighters?

12/27/2007 3:59:50 AM

Quote :

"A career dirty player? Are you kidding me?"

3 goals and 257 penalty mins in 125 career nhl games screams goon to me, and having reviewed the record or penalties, yeah he's a little over the dirty line especially after last night.

he's no avery, but even the rags can't get 2 that dirty on one roster.

12/27/2007 11:28:45 AM

Gosh, a 4th line winger averaging a minor penalty a game! Must be some kind of super career dirty player! I find it hard to believe anyone on the Rangers is going to be headhunting Cullen, since he was a teammate of their's not but 5 months ago.

Also, it's hilarious that Avery averages like 3 minutes worth of penalties a game. He's wonderful. I can also hardly fault him for the first shot against Ladd, since at the time Avery, not Ladd, was the one being held back. Ladd never should've gotten close.

12/27/2007 2:53:40 PM

Quote :

"3 goals and 257 penalty mins in 125 career nhl games screams goon to me"

This is a ridiculous statement. You wanna talk goon, let's talk Daniel Carcillo...172 PIM in 33 games this year.

As for Avery going after Letowski, it's just how an agitator works. Find the mediocre guy on the ice who won't fight anyway and pick on him, thereby suckering one of the better, more physical players into fighting. The cheap shots weren't good, but it's the linesmens' fault for jumping in...that kind of shit is what gets people really hurt.

Avery knows he'll have to fight eventually on a night like that, but just like Tucker, he won't do it until it's absolutely necessary because he's trying to draw cheap penalties (like the one he drew on Cullen when he reached out after the hit).

12/27/2007 4:41:49 PM

Are you fucking kidding me. Ladd didn't practice today either

[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 6:24 PM. Reason : per WRAL]

12/27/2007 6:24:53 PM

Ladd took the morning skate, but wearing a full cage since word is he broke his jaw.

MMMM... holiday meals through a straw....

12/28/2007 12:06:42 PM

i hope we win tonight.

that would be nice.

right?

[Edited on December 28, 2007 at 1:08 PM. Reason : our loss + florida win = florida in 1st.]

12/28/2007 1:07:15 PM

Sopcast info for tonight's game against Boston:

Channel sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/38611
or
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/38858 (VLC Player required)

Quote :

"All streams on Sopcast can be viewed with VLC, though for a select few streams this is mandatory. Additionally, sometimes VLC can stream a few seconds or more ahead of what shows up in Sopcast itself, which can help reduce your lag between the stream's source and when you watch it. To use VLC, download VLC at http://www.videolan.org and install it , then start the Sopcast stream and let it buffer. Then open VLC, go to Open Network Stream, select HTTP option, and type in 127.0.0.1:8902 (if not working, try port 8912). You MUST leave Sopcast running; closing Sopcast closes the stream. If the stream gives sound in both VLC and Sopcast, mute the sound on Sopcast, or hit the refresh button so the Sopcast screen goes blank, but the VLC screen stays intact."

12/28/2007 4:30:04 PM

looks like its gonna be a sell out

i went to try and get some $10 tickets at 1 and they were all out

12/28/2007 4:30:54 PM

End of the first 2-1 Canes

5 minutes into the 1st Montreal 3 Florida 0 woooo

12/28/2007 7:49:05 PM

^damn, 3 goals in the first 5 minutes??? ouccccch

12/28/2007 7:55:21 PM

GREAT ANOTHER FUCKING PLAYER DOWN

12/28/2007 8:26:45 PM

12/28/2007 8:37:49 PM

i saw the hedican injury

needless to say it didnt look very good

12/28/2007 8:54:35 PM

SOUTHEAST  		GP  	W  	L  	  OT  	Pts
Carolina Hurricanes 	39 	20 	16 	  3 	43
Florida Panthers 	38 	18 	17 	  3 	39
Atlanta Thrashers 	38 	18 	19 	  1 	37
Tampa Bay Lightning 	38 	15 	20 	  3 	33
Washington Capitals 	38 	14 	19 	  5 	33

12/28/2007 10:32:15 PM

thank you montreal

12/28/2007 10:34:25 PM

YOU WANT PHYSICALITY?

Quote :

"RALEIGH, NC— Jim Rutherford, President and General Manager of the National Hockey League’s Carolina Hurricanes, announced today that the team has recalled defenseman Wade Brookbank from the Albany River Rats of the American Hockey League (AHL). Hurricanes defenseman Bret Hedican suffered a sprained knee during Friday night’s game against the Boston Bruins and is expected to be out 10-14 days."

12/28/2007 10:43:21 PM

WOOO WOOO

12/28/2007 10:48:22 PM

should be an interesting one tonight. maybe we see 6 guys in the box again

12/29/2007 10:47:14 AM

12/29/2007 10:54:31 AM

i don't know if it was my huge headache that i was having or if the noise was causing it but it seemed like last night it was much much louder than it had been all season

and it was a sellout, almost full.

Quote :

"Attendance: 18,680 (99.7% full)"

[Edited on December 29, 2007 at 12:07 PM. Reason : i guess if you automatically count the season ticket holders, then yeah it was full]

12/29/2007 12:07:01 PM

plz 2 score on Pascal.

12/29/2007 12:45:04 PM

^^^please god NO

[Edited on December 29, 2007 at 12:46 PM. Reason : ^]

12/29/2007 12:46:23 PM

^^ Fuck, I forgot about Leclaire.

Eep.

12/29/2007 3:10:04 PM

yeah... there's no reason for Leclaire to have 7 shutouts.

12/29/2007 3:53:33 PM

CAM WARD!!!!


attn: time warner. SWITCH THE FUCKING HD FEED

12/29/2007 7:08:19 PM

^919.595.4892

Only way to get those jabronies to do anything...I had to do it last week for the Sunday Night Hoops doubleheader. I wish theyd just setup an actual channel for it, even if its colorbars 98% of the week.

Edit: CSR claims the MOJO channel is having problems. FSN and MOJO have nothing to do with each other...its just TWC has a bunch of monkeys running the place. God I cant wait to peace out from these guys when I move.

[Edited on December 29, 2007 at 8:01 PM. Reason : -]

12/29/2007 7:47:00 PM

boo

12/29/2007 8:13:59 PM

Looks like we suck again

12/29/2007 8:38:01 PM

Well, at least nobody got hurt...

SOUTHEAST  		GP  	W  	L    	OT  	Pts  	GF  	GA  	Home  	Away
Carolina Hurricanes 	40 	20 	17  	3 	43 	125 	128 	10-7-1 	10-10-2
Atlanta Thrashers 	39 	19 	19  	1 	39 	109 	127 	10-9-0 	9-10-1
Florida Panthers 	38 	18 	17  	3 	39 	98 	105 	9-8-2 	9-9-1
Washington Capitals 	39 	15 	19  	5 	35 	105 	122 	7-10-1 	8-9-4
Tampa Bay Lightning 	39 	15 	21  	3 	33 	112 	128 	12-8-2 	3-13-1

12/29/2007 9:35:37 PM

And they can't right now.

Philly 1, Florida 0

12/30/2007 7:38:15 PM

ahahaha the Southeast is complete garbage

12/31/2007 4:09:53 AM

so garbage that 2 of the last 3 stanley cup winners are in the SE?

12/31/2007 7:42:15 AM

good chance to start to open things up again tonight with a win and an ATL loss. Anyone going to the game and the New Year's stuff afterwards?

12/31/2007 10:52:50 AM

I'll be there as always, but the New Year's stuff at the arena is garbage.

12/31/2007 11:11:35 AM

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=nhl

Team		W	L	    Rating	    Sched	
Detroit		29	10	3.027	(1)	0.00	(15)	Cent
Minnesota	22	16	1.233	(2)	0.15	(5)	NW
Ottawa		25	13	1.180	(3)	-0.19	(29)	NE
Dallas		23	16	1.175	(4)	0.01	(14)	Pac
Vancouver	22	17	1.060	(5)	0.09	(13)	NW
San Jose	21	17	0.943	(6)	0.10	(9)	Pac
Colorado	21	17	0.902	(7)	0.10	(12)	NW
Chicago		19	18	0.515	(8)	0.10	(11)	Cent
St Louis	18	18	0.417	(9)	0.15	(4)	Cent
New Jersey	21	17	0.296	(10)	-0.11	(23)	ATL
Pittsburgh	20	18	0.164	(11)	-0.02	(16)	ATL
Calgary		18	21	0.123	(12)	0.15	(3)	NW
Phoenix		17	19	0.118	(13)	0.12	(7)	Pac
Nashville	17	20	-0.019	(14)	0.10	(10)	Cent
Anaheim		19	22	-0.032	(15)	0.10	(8)	Pac
Columbus	17	21	-0.149	(16)	0.12	(6)	Cent
NY Rangers	20	19	-0.162	(17)	-0.07	(18)	ATL
Philadelphia	19	18	-0.181	(18)	-0.08	(19)	ATL
Buffalo		19	18	-0.236	(19)	-0.12	(26)	NE
NY Islanders	19	18	-0.240	(20)	-0.12	(24)	ATL
Edmonton	16	23	-0.329	(21)	0.19	(1)	NW
Montreal	19	20	-0.611	(22)	-0.11	(21)	NE
Boston		18	20	-0.620	(23)	-0.09	(20)	NE
Carolina	20	20	-0.634	(24)	-0.19	(30)	SE
Atlanta		19	20	-0.669	(25)	-0.16	(28)	SE
Florida		18	21	-0.930	(26)	-0.14	(27)	SE
Los Angeles	14	26	-1.148	(27)	0.18	(2)	Pac
Toronto		15	24	-1.587	(28)	-0.03	(17)	NE
Washington	15	24	-1.697	(29)	-0.12	(25)	SE
Tampa Bay	15	24	-1.908	(30)	-0.11	(22)	SE



Rk	Conf		Tms	W	L	Rating	Parity
1	Central		5	65	52	0.758	0.7819
2	Northwest	5	60	55	0.598	0.8589
3	Western		15	41	29	0.522	0.8278
4	Pacific		5	50	56	0.211	0.8075
5	Atlantic	5	64	55	-0.025	0.9496
6	Northeast	5	60	59	-0.375	0.8003
7	Eastern		15	29	41	-0.522	0.8446
8	Southeast	5	46	68	-1.168	0.8754

   1  CENTRAL (west)          =   4.25       4.35  (  1)      5
   2  NORTHWEST (west)        =   4.24       4.21  (  2)      5
   3  PACIFIC (west)          =   4.09       4.07  (  3)      5
   4  ATLANTIC (EAST)         =   3.97       3.96  (  5)      5
   5  NORTHEAST (EAST)        =   3.93       3.96  (  4)      5
   6  SOUTHEAST (EAST)        =   3.46       3.45  (  6)      5

12/31/2007 11:34:37 AM

Dubie should be in net tonight...let's light him up.

*rimshot*

12/31/2007 11:46:30 AM

when are the trading periods coming up?


we seriously need to drop John Grahame and get a REAL backup

not to mention a defender and a LW

12/31/2007 11:48:02 AM

There are no trading periods, you can trade any time before the deadline. There's just a roster freeze for Christmas, which is now over.

12/31/2007 11:55:32 AM