simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
if miami wins this game i'm going to go to the store, buy a case of beer and read insidecarolina all night.
fuck off homework. 1/17/2009 9:03:25 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
how good will wake be this next year?!? 1/17/2009 9:25:36 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
^after teague, johnson and aminu go to the league?? Prolly not all that great 1/17/2009 10:07:11 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^ you think they're all leaving? 1/17/2009 10:08:30 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
^consensus says teague and johnson are gone. Aminu......hes as talented as they have, but hes still a lil raw. 1/17/2009 10:16:24 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
holy fuck wayne ellington is god damn lights out right now. 1/17/2009 10:38:04 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
at some point, miami should have considered guarding ellington 1/17/2009 10:56:06 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
damn Ellington 1/17/2009 11:01:45 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^ lol 1/17/2009 11:02:40 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
that dunk by DeQuan Jones in that Miami game was ridiculous. best dunk so far this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YeupqUZ6U 1/18/2009 1:23:11 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Dequan Jones Posterizes John Wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqR0Hy1c6wo&NR=1 1/18/2009 1:26:59 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Wake #1 in both polls. Duke should be given their schedules...
Anyway, just how dominant are the ACC and Big East this year?
According to the RPI: The ACC has 4 teams in the Top 15, 6 in the Top 50 and 10 in the Top 100. The Big East has 6 teams in the Top 15, 8 teams in the Top 50 and 11 in the Top 100.
According to Pomeroy: The ACC has 4 teams in the Top 25, 5 in the Top 50 and 11 in the Top 100. The Big East has 6 teams in the Top 25, 9 in the Top 50 and 12 in the Top 100.
Further, in this weeks coaches poll the ACC and Big East each had 4 teams in the Top 10, with the Big East having an additional 2 for a total of 6 in the Top 14. 1/19/2009 2:40:45 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^if you're going to use pomeroy as a source, you should at least point out that acc is ranked at the top followed by the pac 10, then the big east.
That on top of the fact that the pac 10 stacks up just as well as the acc and big east as far as numbers in the top 25 (with 4). this is especially impressive since they only have ten teams in the conference. and on top of that, they only have two teams outside of the top 100 (while the big east has four outside of the top 100). the acc only has one team outside of the top 100 (georgia tech ranked at 101). 1/19/2009 4:42:08 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
ah fucking ga tech, bringing the acc down... 1/19/2009 4:44:38 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "That on top of the fact that the pac 10 stacks up just as well as the acc and big east as far as numbers in the top 25 (with 4). " |
That isn't true. The Big East has 6 teams in the Pomeroy Top 25 (and 8 in the Top 29). The ACC has 4, same as the Pac-10.
I'm not a Pac-10 hater. I live out here and a lot of east coast people talk down about Football AND Basketball out here and couldn't me more wrong.
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Despite seeing the Pomeroy and RPI I still think the Big East is a much more difficult conference this year. UNC and Wake have 13 games left with 3 against Top 25 teams. UConn has 13 games left with 8 against Top 25 teams. The sheer number of games against high elite caliber programs is insane...1/19/2009 5:17:13 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
but they also have games against four complete garbage teams (ie teams that rank below every team in the acc).
and yeah i miscounted the big east number in the top 25.
i think that the big east has more good teams. but that they're roughly on par with the acc and the pac 10, they just have more teams, so they then have more good teams (and more bad). 1/19/2009 5:22:08 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
That's fair. The top 10 in the Big East are far superior to any other league IMO, but the bottom 4 do drag it down. Though each good team only plays those bottom 4 once where as a lot of ACC teams will play us and Tech twice... so it's roughly equivalent for most teams in terms of schedule difficulty versus the back end. 1/19/2009 5:24:39 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
one decent comparison i think is the top half of each of these three (again i'll just kenpom ratings for consistency): ACC: UNC Wake Duke Clemson Miami Maryland
Big East: Georgetown Pittsburgh Connecticut West Virginia Louisville Marquette Villanova Syracuse
Pac-10 ASU UCLA Washington California USC
If you look at it this way i'd rank BE>ACC>P10. But when you factor in the bottom half of each, ACC gets far stronger,since the bottom 6 or so are fairly close to evenly shitty. 1/19/2009 5:35:32 PM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Does Pittsburgh's arena seriously have courtside box seats?
[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 7:49 PM. Reason : And how the hell was Pitt ever ranked #1 w/ a 65% ft avg??] 1/19/2009 7:30:26 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
yes.
paging Brass Monkey, paging Brass Monkey 1/19/2009 7:55:06 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, and it is a terrible design at that. For one they should have made it where their student section is behind the benches. It would have made it more intimidating. Everyone knows this. Also for you to be able to watch the game live you have to come out of the box and fill in the seats just outside of the boxes. The Petersen Events Center is definitely a tough place to play, but it could have been so much better. I already mentioned that they messed up with the courtside box seats and the student section being put on the wrong side of the arena. It's also too big for it's capacity. By that I mean the roof is too high. It only seats 12,508, yet has a roof that's comparable to many NBA arenas. Now consider this, Reynolds Coliseum sat 12,400, just a shade under the capacity of The Pete. Reynolds though has a much lower roof and the students were all around the court. The Pete can't compare to Reynolds in intimidation factor. It's kind of sad that it is considered one of the toughest places to play in the Big East as well as the NCAA. Gary Williams would routinely lose his cool in Reynolds.
For those that went to the GT game on Saturday, were there any "incidents" with Paul Hewitt this time?
[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 8:08 PM. Reason : pic] 1/19/2009 8:06:46 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
lol wtf ESPN.
http://i40.tinypic.com/28t87dt.png 1/19/2009 11:02:20 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And how the hell was Pitt ever ranked #1 w/ a 65% ft avg??" |
Memphis nearly won the title last year and was Clemson-bad from the line.1/19/2009 11:06:58 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Like that's an accomplishment. I know people that have well over 1,000 friends on Facebook. Yeah big accomplishment. 1/19/2009 11:13:11 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Can we discuss the BEAT DOWN the lady tarholes took tonight? 1/19/2009 11:13:31 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
to be fair, that's not related to anything that they were talking about.. she helped put together a piece that they had just shown before that stat. i'm just wondering why they would bother with that 1/19/2009 11:14:02 PM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ Hmm, good point. And FTR, after looking it up...Memphis was just a hair over 61% on the year last year. Thats crazy. 1/19/2009 11:49:15 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
They shot much better in the tournament though. Like 75-78% (except when it mattered most ). 1/20/2009 8:03:18 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
WTF is going on with Wake right now? 1/21/2009 7:43:17 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
jesus. 1/21/2009 7:45:05 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
refs are giving wake the business
they're not helping themselves cause they're turning it over too, but still....there have been some questionable calls/no-calls in this game that have all gone against wake. 1/21/2009 7:45:12 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i saw this game was down to 2 points so i turned it on... did not realize it's at wake forest. wow. 1/21/2009 8:59:12 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
their crowd has been shit all night 1/21/2009 9:08:58 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
clearly it's just jealousy, but i'm really starting to detest how often unc shoots 3s on the fast break. 1/21/2009 9:17:46 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
GO HOKIES 1/21/2009 9:31:36 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
woah what a block. ha 1/21/2009 9:41:31 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Northwestern beat Michigan State for the first time in 12 games, and for the first time in Lansing since like 1984. 1/21/2009 10:06:47 PM |
Toyota4x4 All American 1226 Posts user info edit post |
Clemson had UNC on the run in the first half and then at the very end of the first half they gave UNC the momentum. (Although on a side note, I did think that Lawson should have been given a foul for that charge with about 45 seconds remaining) Now UNC is just going to run away with it. I would have loved to see Clemson beat UNC at the Dean Dome for the first time in the last 53 Dean Dome matches between the two.
Too bad Clemson is going to give away. 1/21/2009 10:33:34 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
they've never won in chapel hill period, not just the dean dome 1/21/2009 11:17:05 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah
Little-known fact
The Dean Dome actually came after Dean Smith 1/21/2009 11:18:31 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, I knew Joyce Center was hard to play at, but I didn't realize Notre Dame had a 45 game home winning streak.
If UConn can go in there and win on Saturday they might split some #1 votes with Duke... 1/22/2009 10:50:23 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
did yall see that spastic unc fan when the student reporter was in the stands, haha i need to find that video 1/22/2009 10:59:37 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Well it's not so much the design of the building, but the fact that they have God on their side. 1/22/2009 1:18:34 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Ha, apparently God only likes basketball now!
I've read it's one of the louder buildings, but I've never been there. I know it's small and has a similar design to Virginia's old building I think... If you get time, could you give one of your building run downs...
Lol at ND's schedule. Jesus, that is some shit. They have a very realistic change to go 0-4 and have their RPI go UP significantly. Their last two games, both losses, were against #8 Syracuse and #9 Louisville. Tomorrow they play #3 UConn and then on Monday they play #11 Marquette.
[Edited on January 23, 2009 at 11:18 AM. Reason : yikes] 1/23/2009 11:15:40 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
On the CU/VT game Bob Knight is about to analyze why shot fakes work and how to use them effectively. Someone phone Horner and tell him to tune in. 1/29/2009 7:13:20 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
^HA, I was sitting here thinking the same thing. 1/29/2009 7:33:07 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Did they already show it? I had to go turn off the burner and pour out some tea that I brewed up. I really like Bob Knight's analysis. He has such a wealth of basketball knowledge. 1/29/2009 7:39:18 PM |
ReceiveDeath INEED2 GET HIRITENOW 70284 Posts user info edit post |
anybody see dat shot? 1/29/2009 7:52:21 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
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Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
holy shit that was 10-15 feet from half-court 1/29/2009 7:53:23 PM |