TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Rick Bonnell ?@rick_bonnell @Akwatic Menu in front of me: No wings, dude. Get the veal chop or the tuna." |
7/13/2012 3:11:17 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Bismack being a 2nd year player and someone we have no idea what age he is its hard to say how good he will be next year.
If he's really 19 he had a great rookie year. If he's 22-23 it was just okay.
I wasn't trying to discredit him, but he's clearly not as good yet as humphries, brown, and haywood. So yes, I think he will get more minutes than optimal for our 2012-2013 record.
Again, I'm not advocating that we shouldn't play the young guys. Just saying by playing them quite a bit it will likely keep our record worse than it would if we let the vets play heavier minutes.
It's not like were good enough to make any noise, so play the youth and let's get a top 5 pick. I want shabazz, zeller, or noel as of now. 7/13/2012 6:32:00 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Looking good moose! Kidd gillie is killing it! 7/13/2012 10:32:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
yeah MKG balling out
The Jimmer playing like ass 7/13/2012 11:34:58 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Intensity in ten cities! 7/14/2012 9:21:22 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Highlights and box score from last night. I know it's just one game in Summer League play, but I'm liking what I'm seeing out of Dunlap. 121 points from the Bobcats? Damn
http://www.nba.com/summer-league/games/20120713/SACCHA/gameinfo.html 7/14/2012 12:38:33 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
18 Pts, 8 reb, 5 ast, 4 stl.
He's going to be really good eventually.
On another note Cory higgins was 4-13 from the field. As if being the worst player on the worst nba team ever wasn't damning enough 7/14/2012 2:45:10 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Chad Ford's offseason grades.
CHARLOTTE BOBCATS Key additions: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (draft), Ben Gordon (trade), Ramon Sessions (FA), Jeff Taylor (draft), Mike Dunlap (coach)
Key subtractions: D.J. Augustin, Corey Maggette, Jamario Moon, D.J. White, Paul Silas (coach)
For two years, our Future Power Rankings have had the Bobcats ranked dead last. Last year, they certainly played like it.
This year, I don't expect things to get much better.
The good thing about the NBA is that it rewards futility with high draft picks, and the Bobcats got a great one in Kidd-Gilchrist. He is not an immediate impact player the way Anthony Davis will be, but I believe he will be the second-best player in this draft and will add toughness, athleticism and a sense of urgency that this team lacked last season. Taylor is one of the best on-the-ball defenders in the draft, but he seems to duplicate much of what Kidd-Gilchrist brings to the table without the upside.
I'm not a huge fan of the Gordon-Maggette swap. Yes, the Bobcats needed shooting, but adding Gordon isn't going to move the needle much and he has a whopping $25.6 million left on his deal. While most rebuilding teams are clearing future cap space, the Bobcats have an annoying tendency toward adding to it.
The Bobcats also essentially swapped Augustin for Sessions, who is bigger and was superior in virtually every statistical category the past two seasons. Augustin may have been a slightly better passer, but that's about it. Overall, it was an upgrade for the Bobcats.
I highly doubt that the Bobcats are done. They are still flirting with a number of lower-priced free agents, such as Antawn Jamison and Brendan Haywood, who recently was designated for amnesty by Dallas.
But even if they land a few more players, they still look like the overwhelming favorites to be the worst team in the league for a second straight year. Kidd-Gilchrist is a ray of sunlight and Sessions is an upgrade, but for the most part, the hole the Bobcats have dug is still very dark.
GRADE: B-
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8158678/nba-2012-offseason-grades-every-team 7/14/2012 2:47:53 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Mullens missed his first 5 shots, then finished 7-11 as the game's leading scorer
he's no Diop though 7/14/2012 2:48:25 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Um, did he just ignore that we got a first round pick out of the Gordon deal? That was a great deal for us, the pistons will be horrible for the next few years in all likelihood 7/14/2012 2:49:51 PM |
montclair All American 1372 Posts user info edit post |
The pistons pick is lottery protected isn't it?
Gordon's contract is awful, and he is not good. He also plays the same position as Kemba Walker. A 2 in a pg's body 7/14/2012 3:28:31 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
yes, but the pistons will likely suck balls the next few years, and the amount of protection decreases every year 7/14/2012 4:07:52 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Haywood, huh? Don't like him as a person, but 2 mil/per for a center that can play a little is peanuts. Good move. 7/14/2012 7:35:04 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
UNC huh? ... well I like it anyway
7/14/2012 8:59:31 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
8:30 on NBAtv vs. Cavs
might not start till after though, current game still has 9 min left
(things to watch before Breaking Bad)
[Edited on July 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM. Reason : ] 7/15/2012 8:11:47 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Who gives a shit if gordon's contract is ridiculous? The bobcats aren't close to the cap. 7/15/2012 8:16:25 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
lol zellar 7/15/2012 8:46:44 PM |
stone All American 6003 Posts user info edit post |
shocked i am watching this. i must be getting old. 7/15/2012 8:48:26 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
The fuck is Higgins starting over mkg? 7/15/2012 8:49:55 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
I think MKG hurt his knee a little or something in the last game
but he had a couple dunks after that so who knows
wtf he won't play at all tonight? (flips to anything else)
[Edited on July 15, 2012 at 8:53 PM. Reason : ] 7/15/2012 8:51:14 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Well I'm not watching this game to see BJ Mullens, I can you tell you that
Movie time! 7/15/2012 8:52:48 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
kemba walker is an elite nba shot misser 7/15/2012 9:09:08 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Gordon has 2 yrs, $25 million and maggette had 1 yr, $11m so really its only one year and we got a potential top 5 pick out of it.
On top of that Gordon is a reasonable backup sg whereas maggette is unreasonable to even have on your roster after last seasons debacle.
[Edited on July 15, 2012 at 9:20 PM. Reason : a] 7/15/2012 9:13:32 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Waiters looking like a huge bust 7/15/2012 9:24:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
how do we shoot 30% from the field as a team and win? lol 7/16/2012 1:44:43 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
lol, friend of a friend knows haywood. Here's his thoughts on joining the bobcats "If im gonna lose i might as well do it at home"
Well done MJ, we're on the up and up! 7/16/2012 9:07:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Mullens with 33 and 8 tonight to lead us to victory
he's obviously no Desagana Diop though 7/18/2012 1:11:05 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
I still can't believe someone said diop was better than Mullens 7/18/2012 8:15:21 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
strange, as an Ohio State fan, I have almost no recollection of BJ Mullens' college career
same with Kosta Kuofos
[Edited on July 18, 2012 at 8:54 AM. Reason : asdf] 7/18/2012 8:54:00 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
When you're a talented 7 footer, you don't need to stay in college long. I think Mullens was a 6th man of the year though 7/18/2012 9:02:39 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
I still cant believe you think mullens is better than diop after the year he just had.
Diop was a starter in the nba finals. Mullens was a backup for the worst team in nba history.
Let's get serious here. 7/18/2012 9:54:40 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
Diop averages like 2 ppg for his career. He had a 17% ft% last year. He has never averaged 19 minutes a game in a season. Mullens is much better than diop. The bobcats need scoring and Mullens is MUCH better at it. 7/18/2012 10:12:03 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
As of RIGHT NOW, Mullens is better than Diop. And holy shit it's not even close.
Also, random Kemba Walker note: He's#1 in the summer league assists and is only averaging one turnover per game.
With his handle and quickness, he can get basically any mid-range shot he wants. If he ever learns to hit those shots, he could be special.
Also, from the couple of games I've seen, Kemba is playing downright tenacious defense. (Never thought I'd say that.) His ball pressure and hustle is off the charts. 7/18/2012 10:27:09 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
Keeping in mind it's only summer league, kemba is still a good piece for the bobcats future ] 7/18/2012 10:34:25 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Well, you guys are wrong. Diop is still a role player who has STARTED for a team that should have won the NBA Finals.
Mullens is one of the absolute worst players in the entire NBA.
This one is inarguable, sorry.
And I think Kemba is a huge bust, but that one is arguable at least.
[Edited on July 18, 2012 at 12:58 PM. Reason : a] 7/18/2012 12:58:09 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
aha, face is trolling the shit out of you guys. no sane person would ever think that a guy who has never averaged more than 3 ppg in the same amount of minutes as someone who did 10 and 5 last year 7/18/2012 1:13:16 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
shoot face 7/18/2012 1:21:09 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
message_topic.aspx?topic=629287 7/18/2012 1:26:05 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
at least Mullens doesn't airball free throws 7/18/2012 1:39:59 PM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
Steve Reed ?@SteveReed_AP The Bobcats have withdrawn their qualifying offer to Derrick Brown, making him an unrestricted free agent. 7/18/2012 9:33:41 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Byron Mullens goes for 33, Bobcats 3-0 in the LV Summer League 7/18/2012 9:50:25 PM |
stone All American 6003 Posts user info edit post |
say what you want about dunlap, but i think he is really getting solid play for the kids in the summer league. i see all the hustle he said he would demand and then some. when we lose 20 straight it will be interesting to see how he handles it. either way so far so good, and he is backing up what he said he would. i like it so far. 7/18/2012 9:56:19 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Mullens is a great player if you're trying to ensure you get a high draft pick. He's literally one of the worst players in the nba. He's just ahead of the 2009 josh Powell.
After this derrick brown debacle I'm not even sure I can pull for the bobcats anymore. Enough is enough. Cho sucks too 7/19/2012 2:36:46 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
Mullens does suck, but he's better than Diop. That motherfucker is TRASH 7/19/2012 2:40:16 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
What exactly does Derrick Brown do well? From what I've seen, he's a pretty good athlete but lacks quickness and ball-handling to get his own shot off. He's an average shooter, average defender, average rebounder. He just does nothing above average except dunk, occsassionally. 7/19/2012 2:44:08 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
Diop is so good! he gets a ton of playing time for the worst team in the league 7/19/2012 2:54:48 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
He sure scores a lot of points to be one of the worst players in the nba 7/19/2012 7:47:52 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "After this derrick brown debacle I'm not even sure I can pull for the bobcats anymore. Enough is enough. Cho sucks too" |
I know right. Another superstar that eludes the Bobcats. But hey, some other team will realize he's an all-time great in the making & get a steal by signing him for just $6M a year
Oh wait, no, nobody will do that b/c he's just an average wing player
jesus christ7/19/2012 8:05:17 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Derrick Brown is obviously a really good player. Just gross that we're so incompetent.
Mullens is horrible you guys really need to get a clue. How many CENTERS in the NBA shoot 44% or worse from the field?
Who cares how many points he scores if he has the worst FG% in the league practically? I wish he averaged 0 ppg and never shot the ball ever since he can't make anything. 7/19/2012 11:36:18 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
message_topic.aspx?topic=629287 7/19/2012 11:45:41 PM |