HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Interesting article outlining the differences in police tactics and government response between the crack epidemic in the 1980s among predominantly black communities and the current heroin epidemic in white communities.
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Well duh the Crack epidemic of the 80's was single-handedly orgainized and planned out by the CIA as part of a larger government conspiracy to kill black people and to oppress poor African-Americans from being successful! 2/10/2016 2:16:00 PM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
The Unequal Opportunity Race https://youtu.be/vX_Vzl-r8NY
all the feels 2/10/2016 6:20:46 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxZRuL65wQ 2/11/2016 12:51:12 PM |
BlueGenitals Veteran 190 Posts user info edit post |
JCE2011 why don't you suck on a big fucking blue cock 2/16/2016 10:18:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
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JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I will dumb this down for you, since you don't seem to understand... we already know that blacks are over-criminalized by the justice system" |
How so, specifically? I know typically people get away with vague claims of racial victimhood, but if you scrutinize specific areas and account for all relevant factors (as we did with the death penalty example ITT) we see that racism isn’t to blame in most cases.
Quote : | "But of the blacks/whites that DO get arrested, whites are MORE LIKELY to get referred to treatment programs than blacks, which the links you posted demonstrate." |
Let me dumb this down for you, since you don’t seem to understand. That link does not explain who is “referred”, how admission is gained, if they are in/out of jail, if they are repeat offenders, if it is a voluntary choice or court order… so any interpretation of “getting referred more” based on what I posted isn’t accurate. I posted it to simply show that minorities are represented in rehab (over represented based on population).
Quote : | "Does this make sense? You can't arbitrarily pick points of reference for data that fits your incorrect perception of reality." |
That’s laughable coming from you and your perception of reality… what was your quote? “2015 society is just as racist as when there was slavery” lol.
Quote : | " (despite usage rates the same or higher as blacks)" |
Based on what, self-reported use surveys? If you want an actual indicator of drug use, look at real data like emergency room visits for illegal drug use.
http://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/DAWN2k11ED/DAWN2k11ED/DAWN2k11ED.pdf
To liberals, if X is arrested more for drug use, X must be a victim. To people with common sense, if X does more drugs, X should get arrested more. (It’s easier to just cry about victimhood and the evil vague scapegoat of “racist society” because #IStandWithHuffPost).2/19/2016 11:33:07 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
emergency room data can not be used to determine usage rates
i think you are smart enough to know why 2/19/2016 12:10:25 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Poor black people don't like hospitals? 2/19/2016 1:36:37 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
that's not why it isn't a substitute 2/19/2016 2:37:00 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
try again...
...come on...you're soooooo close! 2/19/2016 3:05:34 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "emergency room data can not be used to determine usage rates" |
It's a better, more honest, indicator than the BS "self-reported-use-survey" used to try and suggest black drug users are simply victims of racist police.
LOL. What's next, dead bodies can't be used to determine murder rates? If one race is arrested more for murder, it must be racist cops, because the self-reported-murder-survey says all races murder at equal rates!!!2/22/2016 4:58:07 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "emergency room data can not be used to determine usage rates
i think you are smart enough to know why
2/19/2016 12:10:25 PM" |
2/22/2016 5:30:37 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://atlantablackstar.com/2016/03/01/white-man-arrested-for-shooting-up-hq-of-black-sheriff-candidate-harkens-back-to-60s-era-intimidation-tactics/
Quote : | "Texas-based 12News is reporting that a man was arrested for shooting up the headquarters of Zena Stephens, a Black woman running for sheriff. The man carried out the shooting while allegedly shouting “F*ck the n**gers,” according to an eyewitness. " |
Might could go on the terrorism thread I guess. I bet this guy was a trump supporter.3/1/2016 9:54:12 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds mentally ill to me. 3/1/2016 9:55:08 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
seen the video of the cops jumping on the dude who got cold cocked at the Trump rally, jtdenny? 3/10/2016 6:09:32 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I saw that, they said they were looking at the steps and didn't see the punch thrown. The cop's reaction is under investigation and if they didn't do their job correctly they should be punished accordingly. No excuses for anyone. 3/10/2016 6:47:21 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wral.com/study-black-male-drivers-more-likely-to-be-pulled-over-in-durham/15559310/
#falsenarrative 3/17/2016 3:06:11 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
^^all suspended for a few days 3/17/2016 3:15:26 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "Durham police said that the results of the analysis showed that the levels of disproportionality varied by different units within the organization. The greatest difference was found among the High Enforcement Abatement Team (HEAT), which focuses on drug, vice, and gang violence, while where was no evidence of disproportionality in stops conducted by the Durham Police Department’s Traffic Services unit, police said." |
You're telling me that if one race is more likely to be involved in gang violence, they are more likely to be stopped by police trying to stop gang violence?
Those evil racist police... when will they stop trying to stop gang violence. #NotInAGangPrivilege3/17/2016 4:02:29 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Right. Blacks should just expect and accept getting pulled over more, because they're black and may be in a gang. It's just common sense! 3/17/2016 4:46:37 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
so bc black people are in gangs we should stop more black people and put them in jail for minor offenenses causing them to join gangs in prison for protection thus making more black people in gangs thus causing more black people to get stop which causes......etc 3/17/2016 5:01:37 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
The study is pointless unless you know if black people in Durham are committing infractions at a higher rate or not. If they do that can explain a lot, if white people commit infractions at a higher rate then the stats look even worse. Unless you think it's dead even then it's worth looking at.
Regardless, this myth of white privilege is not going to make me more inclined speed or run stop signs just because I'm white. I've been pulled over for nada and it never amounts to anything because I follow the laws. 3/17/2016 9:44:40 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Right. Blacks should just expect and accept getting pulled over more, because they're black and may be in a gang. It's just common sense!" |
No, but anyone with basic cognitive function should know that if areas HEAT patrol are primarily black, and gang crimes are committed primarily by black males in that area, then picking cars at random would result in more black car stops.
The next step is to put on your big boy pants and attempt to comprehend that this is a statistical inevitability, not a racist police department practice.
Quote : | "so bc black people are in gangs we should stop more black people and put them in jail for minor offenenses causing them to join gangs in prison for protection thus making more black people in gangs thus causing more black people to get stop which causes......etc" |
I think that since all cops are racist KKK members, we should remove them from the hood entirely. We should stop drug arrests and continue to tell everyone that they are victims for life because of the melanin in their skin. We should tell them personal choices don't matter because skin color is all that matters in life. We should then raise minimum wage to $15 an hour, because if dropping out of highschool, doing drugs, and having 3 kids at age 17 doesn't lead to success, it must be because society is racist!3/18/2016 1:00:50 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder what happened between 2013 and now that would have resulted in the disparity being practically eliminated... couldn't be the rise of the #BLM movement and people becoming more conscious of their prejudices...?
[Edited on March 18, 2016 at 1:04 AM. Reason : ]3/18/2016 1:01:33 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Back in 2013, black people were only kinda sure that the police had it out for them... 3/18/2016 1:11:49 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think that since all cops are racist KKK members, we should remove them from the hood entirely. We should stop drug arrests and continue to tell everyone that they are victims for life because of the melanin in their skin. We should tell them personal choices don't matter because skin color is all that matters in life. We should then raise minimum wage to $15 an hour, because if dropping out of highschool, doing drugs, and having 3 kids at age 17 doesn't lead to success, it must be because society is racist!" |
You totally figured it out bro! Let's totally ignore decades of red lining in cities throughout America and the economic issues this has caused generations of people!3/18/2016 8:05:04 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think that since all cops are racist KKK members, we should remove them from the hood entirely. We should stop drug arrests and continue to tell everyone that they are victims for life because of the melanin in their skin. We should tell them personal choices don't matter because skin color is all that matters in life. We should then raise minimum wage to $15 an hour, because if dropping out of highschool, doing drugs, and having 3 kids at age 17 doesn't lead to success, it must be because society is racist!" |
Good Call #I_StandWithJCE
Quote : | "'s totally ignore decades of red lining in cities throughout America and the economic issues this has caused generations of people!" |
Dude it is 2016. We all know there was some real issues in the past but by this point if any African-American wants to not live in an area that has a reputation of being "hood" then they can leave. Perhaps those that choose to live in the "ghetto" type areas do so because they feel a sense of community living among other African-Americans or perhaps due to economic reasons just like how many poor whites live in the trailer park in rural areas.3/18/2016 1:09:44 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if any African-American wants to not live in an area that has a reputation of being "hood" then they can leave" |
It's just that easy? Really?3/18/2016 1:34:54 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
if I wasn't aware of HUR's posting history I would have assumed he was trolling JCE2011
that was some next level dumb 3/18/2016 1:43:19 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
message_topic.aspx?topic=647064 3/18/2016 3:11:30 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " It's just that easy? Really?" |
Sure is!3/18/2016 4:01:42 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " The white privilege thread" |
3/18/2016 4:10:24 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
HUR is totally right!
Poor people can take all their money and move all their shit somewhere nicer and look for a job in a different area. It's easy! No need for months of living expenses saved up to use while looking for work and renting an apt!
and poor areas are normally very open minded to ideas and cultures from outside and will totally not mind some new people moving in! Totally won't be an issue.
[Edited on March 18, 2016 at 5:09 PM. Reason : Gg] 3/18/2016 5:09:08 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
dude don't be an idiot. There is nothing stopping an African-American couple living in Hidden Valley in Charlotte (a traditionally African-American neighborhood with reputations of gang violence and underprivileged households) to moving to a trailer park home in Stallings.
You ultimately proved my point. The sole issue is money. There is no conspiracy or mean racist city council that prevents an African-American from moving to a more diverse like NoDa or a more affluent and safe neighborhood like Myers Park. Though honestly aside from having a bigger house and being safer for the kids, I bet a lot of the hidden valley families would prefer their community there than some yuppie place like Myers Park
[Edited on March 18, 2016 at 5:32 PM. Reason : a] 3/18/2016 5:26:32 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
As usual, you're looking at it from a very narrow point of view. You really think every poor single-mother living in a gang-infested "ghetto" can just pick-up her life and her children's and just move to a place that isn't gang-infested? You think that would be possible in all cases, and even "easy"?
And I bet you think SJWs live in some fantasy world. 3/18/2016 5:31:14 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Even if she can't this isn't the fault of some white racist conspiracy. It most certainly is not "white privilege" to not get knocked up at 17 and drop out of high school.
So to what degree are under-privileged minorities responsible for their own predicament? We'll put this on a scale 0% (it is all part of the elite white racist conspiracy) to 100% (rawr rawr rawr boot straps)!
[Edited on March 18, 2016 at 5:34 PM. Reason : a] 3/18/2016 5:34:19 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
its a given that where racist polices or laws are found, they should be fought and struck down
even if white privilege were real, from what I've read, all is expected of us is to admit we've had a better or easier life (even if we haven't) and that recognition is what people are looking for? what else is the motive for this privileged myth? 3/20/2016 6:59:01 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
I want reparations. But not just any reparations.... I want jtdenny to personally hand me $20. 3/20/2016 8:15:15 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
haha i'll buy you a drink 3/20/2016 8:56:58 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " So to what degree are under-privileged minorities responsible for their own predicament? We'll put this on a scale 0% (it is all part of the elite white racist conspiracy) to 100% (rawr rawr rawr boot straps)! " |
This is essentially what everyone disagrees on. I doubt many posters ITT would respond to it but I would be curious to see what they estimate. The left side of the argument doesn't like framing the discussion this way, they prefer a simple equation of "victims and racism" without mentioning personal responsibility, which anyone not brainwashed by HuffPost would agree has the most material effect out of all factors.3/21/2016 6:06:08 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/21/pot-legalization-hasnt-done-anything-to-shrink-the-racial-gap-in-drug-arrests/?utm_content=buffer78b11&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Pot legalization hasn’t done anything to shrink the racial gap in drug arrests
White people always get off so easily... 3/21/2016 6:25:58 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So to what degree are under-privileged minorities responsible for their own predicament? We'll put this on a scale 0% (it is all part of the elite white racist conspiracy) to 100% (rawr rawr rawr boot straps)! "" |
simply for comparisons sake, wouldn't you also need to view the question from the white, middle or upper-middle class POV? that way you'd get a good basis for the actual "privilege" being ascribed to each group here. as in...to what degree are white middle class folks responsible for their own situation? 0% = it's entirely a product of their parents' and their own privilege (ie, they were born into it) to 100% (rawr rawr rawr boot straps, like you said).3/21/2016 6:31:32 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pot legalization hasn’t done anything to shrink the racial gap in drug arrests " |
Are we talking about drug arrests any drugs or just marijuana related arrests. FYI crack and heroin are still illegal in Oregon. Plus we don't have many minorities anyway...3/21/2016 7:11:07 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ So what are people being arrested for? Driving under the influence?
[Edited on March 21, 2016 at 8:27 PM. Reason : ] 3/21/2016 8:26:58 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is essentially what everyone disagrees on. I doubt many posters ITT would respond to it but I would be curious to see what they estimate. The left side of the argument doesn't like framing the discussion this way, they prefer a simple equation of "victims and racism" without mentioning personal responsibility, which anyone not brainwashed by HuffPost would agree has the most material effect out of all factors." |
most material effect out of all factors?
Can you agree that two generations ago a large portion of the U.S. population could not get a loan to buy a house where ever they wanted, had to attended subpar segregated schools, and voting in elections was difficult if not impossible? A large amount of wealth was acrued during this time which created the now crumbling middle class. Wealth being passed from generation to generation is important and a good portion of the population was cut out until very recently. This shit doesn't fix itself over night.3/21/2016 8:32:04 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can you agree that two generations ago while still being counted for house representatives, a large portion of the U.S. population could not get a loan to buy a house where ever they wanted, had to attended subpar segregated schools, and voting in elections was difficult if not impossible?" |
[Edited on March 21, 2016 at 8:48 PM. Reason : Because no one ever talks about that part]3/21/2016 8:48:32 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit didn't even think about that.
Native Americans had essentially no rights until '68!!!!! 3/21/2016 9:02:24 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah and then think about where the all majority of those 'nonrepresented' people lived then... and still live today
[Edited on March 21, 2016 at 9:22 PM. Reason : typ-o] 3/21/2016 9:21:08 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
I immediately looked up various demographic populations in cities in the south during the first half of the 20th century. Ha. 3/21/2016 9:40:50 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can you agree that two generations ago a large portion of the U.S. population could not get a loan to buy a house where ever they wanted, had to attended subpar segregated schools, and voting in elections was difficult if not impossible? A large amount of wealth was acrued during this time which created the now crumbling middle class. Wealth being passed from generation to generation is important and a good portion of the population was cut out until very recently. This shit doesn't fix itself over night." |
We have covered this ad nauseam... yes, past racism caused a wealth disparity. The problem is the liberal SJWs keep acting as if present-day racism is the problem holding minorities down. Despite America being so racist in the 1950s, black families actually did better then. Single black parent households have shot up from 22% (1960) to 55% (2008). Family structure is one of the key factors that correlates with wealth and success in America, yet for some reason it has gotten worse as America has become less racist.
If we want to define "White privilege" as being "less likely to be born poor" then that makes sense... but then again why not call it "Asian privilege" since they do statistically better in most categories? Or why don't we look further and see what it is... Good choice privilege. Naturally personal responsibility is a foreign concept to the bleeding heart liberals.... but in 2016 that is what matters.
[Edited on March 22, 2016 at 3:13 AM. Reason : .]3/22/2016 3:10:27 AM |