But muh narrative!

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 4:09 PM. Reason : tag]

1/23/2017 4:09:30 PM

Sure, the wall might create a few jobs, but they won't be the kind of permanent long term jobs we need.

Wouldn't you rather see that money go to other infrastructure improvements that will actually matter? Fix our roads, fix our bridges, fix our national parks.

1/23/2017 4:14:46 PM

ITT rjrumfel thinks a secure southern border won't reduce illegal immigration

I can see why you guys follow up my posts with spam, if this is the best you've got.

1/23/2017 4:19:46 PM

1/23/2017 4:21:39 PM

ITT JCE thinks a wall along the southern border is both feasible, and that the benefits would somehow outweigh the costs.

no wonder everyone, even the other republicans and libertarians think he's either a total idiot or a troll, or both.

1/23/2017 4:32:51 PM

Quote :

"I can see why you guys follow up my posts with spam, if this is the best you've got"

1/23/2017 4:48:05 PM

The only advantage a massive wall will provide is revenue as a tourist attraction in a few centuries.

1/23/2017 5:15:32 PM

The problem is that you are equating a wall with physical security.

Show me a wall, any wall, that hasn't been breached at some point in time. The only way to make a wall that can't be breached is to man it with heavily armed people who will use lethal force. IE the Berlin Wall.

1/23/2017 6:13:42 PM

IE our border patrol.

1/23/2017 6:16:50 PM

Shooting South Americans going over a boarder is great PR.

1/23/2017 6:20:49 PM

Enforcing our laws seems like a good idea in general

1/23/2017 6:33:39 PM

+a lot of points for killing TPP

1/23/2017 6:59:21 PM

Shooting people from other countries for breaking boarding crossing laws is fantastic foreign policy.

1/23/2017 7:24:55 PM

you people just cant get enough

1/23/2017 7:27:31 PM

‘National Day of Patriotic Devotion’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/23/trump-names-his-inauguration-day-a-national-day-of-patriotic-devotion/?utm_term=.f3e97fa362d6

1/23/2017 7:44:41 PM

Lol, this fucking guy...

That seems altogether too Kim Jong Un to me but whatever.

1/23/2017 7:54:55 PM

I used to cut grass with some illegal immigrants from Guatemala. They flew here on commercial airliners.

1/23/2017 8:07:55 PM

Sorry synapse, but it sounds like he's putting all his immigrant hate in the big ol' wall basket. I can't handle it.

Sounds like he's actually advocating for armed guards shooting people if they get too close.

1/23/2017 9:49:57 PM

Republican 1: we're really gonna stop all the illegals with this wall!

Republican 2: yeah! No one is getting across

Republican 1: wait, where does all our cocaine come from again?

Republican 2: Nooooooo!!!!!

1/23/2017 9:51:05 PM

Quote :

" but it sounds like he's putting all his immigrant hate"

I'm surprised the echo-chamber lasted this long without raising the "No ur a Xenophobe" white flag. I am making progress with you hacks!

Maybe one day you will be able to make arguments based on something besides baseless character attacks! (one day)

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 10:06 PM. Reason : hax]

1/23/2017 10:06:31 PM

So spicer reiterated the alt-fact that trump has the most attended inauguration ever.

Trump met with congress and told them 3-5 million illegal votes costed him the election.

Apparently trump gets bored and tries to watch tv then tweet about it, something his staff actively has to stop him from doing.

We are going to veer into some seriously dangerous territory if trumps team operates on a completely delusional version of reality. If you look at statements through the election like we're in a crime wave, Mexicans are rapists and criminals, muslims are concealing radicals amongst them, the media is "at war" with trump, America doesn't manufacture anymore, the policies that follow from these ideas are dangerous.

I'm a little surprised too priebus has been so completely subsumed by this... this will be fascinating for political scientists in a few years.

1/23/2017 11:02:50 PM

PMI is such an evil thing for first time home-owners who can't afford a large down payment. The burden was going to be eased a little. But nope, can't have that.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/23/politics/donald-trump-first-action-hud/index.html

1/23/2017 11:10:03 PM

God forbid people that can't afford houses can't buy them. God forbid we have some semblance of fiscal responsibility

1/23/2017 11:15:01 PM

Do you have a mortgage? We have a conventional mortgage now, but our first one was an FHA that required $200/month in PMI that was going to nothing. Not even tax deductible. A reduction in PMI would help everyone.

Do you even know what PMI is?

1/23/2017 11:17:44 PM

it doesn't go nowhere. It goes to the bank!

while pay the bank additional insurance on top of the mortgage you're paying them sucks the added risk for the bank is there. It also has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility or whatever random talking point JCE drew out of his hood.

1/23/2017 11:38:32 PM

I hope lawyers are looking into the fha thing. Seems like retaliation for some private business issue.

One effect of costlier borrowing tends to be lower list price for real estate, which obviously benefits trump personally.

1/23/2017 11:39:40 PM

This memo was sent to EPA employees:

1/24/2017 12:41:16 AM

^^ you think trump is out there selling property to fha buyers?

1/24/2017 6:52:24 AM

^^ That is terrifying.

1/24/2017 7:56:10 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/23/at-white-house-trump-tells-congressional-leaders-3-5-million-illegal-ballots-cost-him-the-popular-vote/?utm_term=.54cd76c420dc

Quote :

"Days after being sworn in, President Trump insisted to congressional leaders invited to a reception at the White House that he would have won the popular vote had it not been for millions of illegal votes, according to people familiar with the meeting. . . . . Two people familiar with the meeting said Trump spent about 10 minutes at the start of the bipartisan gathering rehashing the campaign. He also told them that between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused him to lose the popular vote."

Frankly, that's something only a loser would say.

1/24/2017 8:08:04 AM

I've seen this reported lightly a few places but Trump's people refusing to name what unemployment rate is now is just really bizarre. The worst part of me has to believe that it is a way for him to falsely claim he made it drop 6-12 months from now or a way to save face if his policies don't work right away.

^ it might be time to just accept he is a thin-skinned baby boy who railed against PC culture but then needs it to protect himself from getting sad and move on to policy and his actions. As I said, + on rolling back TPP but can move to a - if he starts slapping tariffs and trade wars. - on basically everything else.

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 8:18 AM. Reason : X]

1/24/2017 8:16:57 AM

The fact that Trump is so defensive about this sort of thing is definitely extremely concerning. These are the sort of things that most people wouldnt even give the time of day. I don't care who you are people are going to protest against you and not like you welcome to politics but crying about it like a baby because you think you are great... what is gonna happen when its actually something important?

1/24/2017 9:04:50 AM

it's just gaslighting, they want you so confused and distrustful of them and the media that they get to do whatever they want

1/24/2017 9:34:16 AM

Quote :

"I used to cut grass with some illegal immigrants from Guatemala. They flew here on commercial airliners."

It's going to be a really, really tall wall.

1/24/2017 10:20:58 AM

National Day of Patriotic Devotion

Quote :

"NATIONAL DAY OF PATRIOTIC DEVOTION 9570 - - - - - - - BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION A new national pride stirs the American soul and inspires the American heart. We are one people, united by a common destiny and a shared purpose. Freedom is the birthright of all Americans, and to preserve that freedom we must maintain faith in our sacred values and heritage. Our Constitution is written on parchment, but it lives in the hearts of the American people. There is no freedom where the people do not believe in it; no law where the people do not follow it; and no peace where the people do not pray for it. There are no greater people than the American citizenry, and as long as we believe in ourselves, and our country, there is nothing we cannot accomplish. NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim January 20, 2017, as National Day of Patriotic Devotion, in order to strengthen our bonds to each other and to our country -- and to renew the duties of Government to the people. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twentieth day of January, in the year of our Lord two thousand seventeen, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and forty-first. "

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2017-01798.pdf


this is fake right? this just can't be real, right? this is some straight kim jong il shit.

1/24/2017 11:00:28 AM

Quote :

"Do you have a mortgage? We have a conventional mortgage now, but our first one was an FHA that required $200/month in PMI that was going to nothing. Not even tax deductible. A reduction in PMI would help everyone. Do you even know what PMI is?"

If you're making a down payment of less than 20%, you probably shouldn't be buying the house in the first place.

But hey, lets incentivize people buying homes they can't afford. That never caused any economic problems did it?

1/24/2017 11:10:25 AM

National Day of Patriotic Devotion

Quote :

"NATIONAL DAY OF PATRIOTIC DEVOTION 9570 - - - - - - - BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION A new national pride stirs the American soul and inspires the American heart. We are one people, united by a common destiny and a shared purpose. Freedom is the birthright of all Americans, and to preserve that freedom we must maintain faith in our sacred values and heritage. Our Constitution is written on parchment, but it lives in the hearts of the American people. There is no freedom where the people do not believe in it; no law where the people do not follow it; and no peace where the people do not pray for it. There are no greater people than the American citizenry, and as long as we believe in ourselves, and our country, there is nothing we cannot accomplish. NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim January 20, 2017, as National Day of Patriotic Devotion, in order to strengthen our bonds to each other and to our country -- and to renew the duties of Government to the people. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twentieth day of January, in the year of our Lord two thousand seventeen, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and forty-first. "

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2017-01798.pdf


this is fake right? this just can't be real, right? this is some straight kim jong il shit.

1/24/2017 11:14:13 AM

It is like he watches the news and sees how other leaders do things and thinks to himself ya know I like how that guy thinks I think I will do something similar. Except he only watches stories on Russia and NK.

1/24/2017 11:27:01 AM

Quote :

"But hey, lets incentivize people buying homes they can't afford. That never caused any economic problems did it?"

The mere existence of PMI incentivizes mortgage lenders to lend to people they otherwise wouldn't. Two way street here..

1/24/2017 11:52:45 AM

Trump just said no pipeline unless its USA steel and yet Keystone XL is both foreign steel and foreign oil.

1/24/2017 12:21:09 PM

he personally benefits though, so who cares

1/24/2017 12:23:20 PM

We didn't have 20% when we first bought our home. We waited, made our house payments (with PMI) and when the time was right, we refinanced with a conventional.

But again, you didn't answer my question. Have you purchased a home with 20% down? For a 180k home, which is right there around the median home price, you need 36k down for a conventional loan. Let's look at teachers, who in Wake county start out making in the low 30k's per year. How long do you think it would take a teacher, while simultaneously paying for rent, to save up 36k?

So please, if you want people to take you seriously, answer their questions.

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 12:26 PM. Reason : And Wake Co. is the second highest paying CO for teacher salary in the state]

1/24/2017 12:23:58 PM

bruh, he's trolling you

1/24/2017 12:32:40 PM

EPA and USDA now blocked from sharing publicly funded research or communicating with the public.

1/24/2017 12:41:19 PM

^^

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 12:44 PM. Reason : ^ source?]

1/24/2017 12:44:19 PM

I saw it flash by my screen from the AP.

I move to dump all further toxins and/or waste to red counties only since it's no big deal.

1/24/2017 12:52:17 PM

my girlfriend is a post-doc at the EPA and has been advised to start looking for a job elsewhere

just awful

1/24/2017 12:55:39 PM

Quote :

"We didn't have 20% when we first bought our home. We waited, made our house payments (with PMI) and when the time was right, we refinanced with a conventional. But again, you didn't answer my question. Have you purchased a home with 20% down? For a 180k home, which is right there around the median home price, you need 36k down for a conventional loan. Let's look at teachers, who in Wake county start out making in the low 30k's per year. How long do you think it would take a teacher, while simultaneously paying for rent, to save up 36k? So please, if you want people to take you seriously, answer their questions."

How can I take a post like this seriously? You're essentially asking me how money works and implying it is unfair.

If you can't afford $36k, maybe you shouldn't be trying to buy a 180k house.

1/24/2017 12:56:03 PM

ITT I learned that internet trolling pays way more than I thought!

1/24/2017 1:05:36 PM

Quote :

"my girlfriend is a post-doc at the EPA and has been advised to start looking for a job elsewhere just awful"

for real? PM me details if you can

1/24/2017 1:19:51 PM