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BridgetSPK
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I've been bwning my best friend's husband for years. I still know for a fact that I'm better than other people--I'm just an inherently good person with superior integrity and character. But I do feel accountable for failing to oversee my rogue vagina.

1/28/2014 4:16:03 PM

ctnz71
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If UNC wanted the Martin report to read that the moon will hit the earth in three days it would have read that.

1/28/2014 4:24:27 PM

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Its hit UK's dailymail again. International embarrassment for UNC.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547505/UNC-apologizes-fake-classes-phoney-grades.html

1/29/2014 9:48:44 AM

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Somebody got her panties in a bunch that her Law professor made a joke about student athletes:

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2014/01/college-athlete-does-not-mean-illiterate

Her UNC Athletics page:

http://www.goheels.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3350&ATCLID=205672906

1/29/2014 2:44:55 PM

BridgetSPK
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I'm very excited about clicking Casey's article. Gonna see this literacy in action.

1/29/2014 2:50:46 PM

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One, talk about feigned outrage. Jesus.

Two, I think she is confusing the professor's use of the term "student athletes" with "student athletes (who play sports no one gives a shit about)"

1/29/2014 2:56:58 PM

BridgetSPK
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LOL, she sounds like a bitchy baby.

I'm familiar with what that sounds like.

1/29/2014 3:01:41 PM

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Come on guys, don't be silly. We know that not all athletes that attend UNC are idiots.. We should also know that not even all their football and basketball players are idiots. Just a lot of them. (I listened to McAdoo talk after a game last week and he doesn't seem like an idiot).

1/29/2014 3:01:54 PM

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Her FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2733183

I think I see why she is so sensitive about the Carolina athlete joke. In addition to growing up in Chapel Hill and graduating from CHHS, her brother is a lacrosse player for UNC and her dad was as well. Looks like even mom graduated from UNC. Guess they aren't worried about all of their collective degrees being cheapened by the taint of the scandal.

1/29/2014 3:42:12 PM

BridgetSPK
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Show some respect. She played two years of field hockey, and she's in law school!

1/29/2014 3:43:30 PM

GingaNinja
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Fucking karma bitches.

I hope the State grads from the 80s are thoroughly enjoying this

[Edited on January 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM. Reason : ]

1/29/2014 4:10:13 PM

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He meant real athletes. Not club sports.

1/29/2014 5:00:12 PM

PackGuitar
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apologize if old news but... Netflix (stream) added a documentary called Schooled: Price of College Sports.

lots of tar hole scandal in it. about 40 minutes of bashing in the 2nd half

1/30/2014 3:58:13 PM

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^ That 40 min should be the pregame entertainment for our game against UNC

1/30/2014 4:19:35 PM

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A "rogue" former UNC dean has come out in support of Mary Willingham saying that her results were accurate and criticized the character assassination that took place against Mary by Provost Dean and .

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/01/30/3578294/a-former-unc-dean-recalls-athletes.html

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"“During the year that I served as interim dean I was made aware of the serious academic deficiencies that some of our newly recruited athletes would have to overcome if they were ever to succeed at UNC,” Levine wrote. “From what I was told ... I thought it highly probable that one of these students was functionally illiterate.”

She wrote that she went to the university provost, who was then Bernadette Gray-Little, now chancellor at the University of Kansas.

She said she was “told what I already knew – that the decision had been made to grant special admission to this student and there was nothing to be done about it by then. That was true, but I still feel guilty that I let the matter drop and did not publicly express my dismay.”

Gray-Little could not be reached. A spokesman, Jack Martin, said Gray-Little does not remember talking to Levine about the issue.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/01/30/3578294/a-former-unc-dean-recalls-athletes.html#storylink=cpy"


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"In an interview Wednesday, Levine said Dean’s presentation amounted to an attempt to misdirect the public away from the larger issue of the long-standing academic fraud, how it started and festered for so many years, and how it helped academically challenged athletes maintain their eligibility to play sports. She called for an independent investigation.

“The evidence has been there, and it’s been there prior to (Willingham) going public,” Levine said. “But it’s a tried and true diversionary measure to just angle in on something small and try to distract attention from something much larger behind it.”

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/01/30/3578294/a-former-unc-dean-recalls-athletes.html#storylink=cpy"

1/31/2014 8:57:27 AM

ctnz71
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That statement alone could bring down a banner... Depending on the player

1/31/2014 9:35:27 AM

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1/31/2014 9:40:06 AM

marko
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does that mean we would get to hang it up in our arena?

[Edited on January 31, 2014 at 1:45 PM. Reason : OH GAWD THA URN]

1/31/2014 1:33:42 PM

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did Carter Finely get a roof?

1/31/2014 1:34:31 PM

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http://www.seethruedu.com/updates/sports-scandal-what-did-unc-leaders-know-and-when-did-they-know-it

1/31/2014 2:26:45 PM

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"She wrote that she went to the university provost, who was then Bernadette Gray-Little, now chancellor at the University of Kansas."


These 2 Universities sure do sleep together often.

1/31/2014 5:43:30 PM

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Two new stories up on Chapelboro. Ran interviewed both Mary and Jay Smith today on WCHL. Here is the story:

http://chapelboro.com/news/unc/willingham-blasts-ncaa-academic-improprieties/

Madeline Levine is dropping bombs herself in this article:

http://chapelboro.com/news/unc/former-unc-dean-academic-issue-reaches-revenue-sports/

The beginning is very damning to the whole athletic program and not just basketball and football:

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"The high-ranking educator at UNC who recently signed off on her support of Mary Willingham says the problem goes beyond revenue-generating sports.

“The pressure to admit a Japanese student and give him basic courses for American students who didn’t know a word of (Japanese),” Levine says. “So that was the first that I experienced, personally, pressure from a sport on behalf of what I would say a very phony admission. And, I’m assuming that the student never got admitted.

Madeline Levine is the former interim dean of UNC’s College of Arts and Sciences and is a Kenan Professor Emerita of Slavic Literatures. She taught for 36 years at UNC retiring in 2010.

The prospective student-athlete she was talking about was for golf in the 1980s.

Levine says she was angered to find out that this was taking place.

“This is just what you did,” Levine says. “You contacted a faculty member, and you tried to get accommodations for students, and that to me was not so much shocking then but really infuriating, and I was not going to play that game.”

She says she was approached with the idea of putting the recruit in classes at Carolina that he would be able to breeze through.

“I just got the call saying we have a Japanese student from Japan whose English is minimal—there’s no way he can pass any courses now until he gets his English, but we want to recruit him, so we would like you to agree that he can be enrolled in first-year and second-year Japanese,” Levine says.

Levine says those courses are for students who know nothing about the Japanese language and are slowly taught the basics."

1/31/2014 7:40:28 PM

TreeTwista10
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The Carorina Way

1/31/2014 8:07:26 PM

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So, what's this about them hiring another dirty assistant coach?

2/6/2014 8:10:32 PM

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http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/colleges/2013/09/report-texas-rb-coach-larry-porter-paid-players-while-at-oklahoma-state.html

meh

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"Report: Texas RB coach Larry Porter paid players while at Oklahoma State


Longhorns running backs coach Larry Porter was implicated in the first of a five-part of installment from Sports Illustrated outlining the wrongdoing at Oklahoma State over the last 10-15 years. Porter was accused of paying players while serving as the Cowboys running backs coach from 2002-2004.

Porter and former Oklahoma State assistant Joe DeForest, currently the special teams coordinator at West Virginia, were among those who reportedly compensated Cowboys athletes.

The report by George Dohrmann and Thayer Evans claims that Porter gave Seymore Shaw, an Oklahoma State running back from 2002-2004, $100 "four of five times" and told him to "use the money to get something to eat."

Porter also reportedly gave former Cowboys safety Fath Carter $200 before the beginning of fall camp in 2003 so incoming freshmen Xavier Lason-Kennedy and Ricky Coxeff could stay at Carter's apartment before NCAA rules allowed them to receive room and board.

"I've been made aware of the accusations, and I'm disappointed because they are all absolutely not true," Porter told SI in a statement. "None of that ever happened."

Porter, who was Memphis' head coach for two years (2010-11), served as Arizona State's running backs coach the following season before being hired for the same position at Texas this year.

-Christian Corona
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2/6/2014 8:16:51 PM

Lionheart
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^^Guy was a coach at Ok. St. during the time period profiled in this SI 5-part piece and was named as potentially paying players

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130910/oklahoma-state-part-1-money/

To be fair this piece was kinda a hack job, but with all carolina went through you'd think they'd want to stay a mile away from anyone that even smelled of impropriety.

[Edited on February 6, 2014 at 8:17 PM. Reason : ^this]

2/6/2014 8:17:26 PM

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Mary Willingham is considering legal action against Provost Dean.

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2014/02/mary-willingham-considers-suing-unc-provost-over-ndings

That could get fun!

2/13/2014 11:59:32 AM

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^^, ^^^ a few hundred bucks? dude probably took the job at UNCCH* to learn how the "pros" do it.

2/13/2014 1:40:26 PM

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From this past weekend:

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2014/02/willingham-responds-to-criticism-of-research

2/20/2014 9:43:16 AM

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"Willingham is a liar and a fraud, not to mention an incompetent amateur researcher and a paranoid narcissist. To write this letter and openly combat 'claims' of misconceptions is to further fuel the flames of ineptitude. Her message to the DTH to save her reputation as a laughably self-proclaimed 'whistleblower' was delivered stillborn."


And a thief!

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"Sadly, and upon further reflection, Willingham fits right into our campus with the other liars and the fraud that constitutes "The Carolina Way"."


BOOM!

2/20/2014 10:41:09 AM

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The comments from that article are absolutely ridiculous. Denial can lead people to be completely insane at times. I feel sorry for Willingham.

2/20/2014 11:11:44 AM

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The comments/rebuttals in the article are written/monitored by their paid PR firm around the clock

2/20/2014 11:36:34 AM

V0LC0M
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That is even more pathetic.

2/20/2014 12:00:29 PM

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http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/03/02/3668170/unc-learning-specialist-defends.html

3/3/2014 9:48:09 AM

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Two words...

Julius Peppers

Nice try UNC

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"In his three years working as a reading and writing specialist for Ohio State and for UNC-CH, Bethel said he has had three such athletes who succeeded academically once their learning disabilities were diagnosed and overcome through tools such as video lessons or audio "


Dean smith graduated nearly all his players. He's good at recognizing

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"Bethel acknowledged he has not seen Willingham’s research data, or the underlying tests that were given to the 183 athletes over an eight-year period. However, he says, her methodology is so flawed that the results could not be valid."


Lol

[Edited on March 3, 2014 at 10:06 AM. Reason : O]

[Edited on March 3, 2014 at 10:11 AM. Reason : Lol]

3/3/2014 9:54:05 AM

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"In his three years working as a reading and writing specialist for Ohio State and for UNC-CH blah blah blah"


Yeah, UNC "cleaned up" its act since 2011. We are talking about the period from 1993-2010 before they got caught.

3/3/2014 10:22:04 AM

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"I'm a statistician reading specialist. Her methodology is flawed."

3/3/2014 2:36:12 PM

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"Bethel grew up outside Toledo, Ohio, with a father who taught high school English before becoming a human resources consultant. His mother recently became a preschool teacher."

Oh, his mother might be able to help at UNC with the athletes, then

3/4/2014 1:02:54 AM

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"In his three years working as a reading and writing specialist for Ohio State and for UNC-CH, Bethel said he has had three such athletes who succeeded academically once their learning disabilities were diagnosed and overcome through tools such as video lessons or audio"


3/4/2014 1:18:08 PM

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Is this guy a part time tattoo artist?

3/4/2014 1:32:10 PM

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/06/4746453/piling-on-with-unc-no.html#.UxoIFoWK6oV

Written by a UNC alum

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"In this case, N&O staff writer Dan Kane has covered the news with exhaustive investigation and detail, and he’s written a lot about the problems in the university’s athletics program and in a shocking academic scandal. One of the latest stories has concerned a dispute between a former academic adviser in the complex that deals with athletes who says some of them couldn’t read well and weren’t ready for college work. Another adviser recently begged to differ.

Some think the university just needed to “manage” the story better. But the story didn’t need managing. It needed telling.

Universities are rather cloistered places sometimes, and they don’t handle crisis or criticism very well. And presidents and chancellors just aren’t comfortable with opening the books on public records even when the institution in question is a public one. Human nature, perhaps."

3/7/2014 12:57:52 PM

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^^^ 3 cases of success in the 3 years? You're on a roll, wheels!

3/7/2014 1:37:40 PM

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^Also that comment doesn't say:
1) Whether the 3 success stories occurred at OSU or UNC.
2) More importantly... 3 success stories out of how many student athletes with learning disabilities?

3/8/2014 7:49:28 AM

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/12/4761499/unc-amends-budget-request-after.html

How many fake classrooms can $74 million build?

3/13/2014 2:01:48 AM

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http://www.wral.com/unc-president-lighten-load-for-freshmen-student-athletes/13494135/

3/20/2014 9:39:33 AM

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Those UNC tutors are really having to work too hard.

3/20/2014 11:40:26 AM

GingaNinja
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Hey ,why doesn't UNC just skip the whole classes/education thing altogether.

3/20/2014 12:26:15 PM

jbtilley
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^They'd have to start doing it first?

3/20/2014 1:33:43 PM

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http://www.wral.com/group-unc-broke-state-law-by-harassing-willingham/13500636/

3/21/2014 6:39:20 PM

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"RALEIGH, N.C. — University of North Carolina officials appear to have violated state law when they criticized a reading specialist who concluded that some basketball and football players couldn't read at a third-grade level, the head of a government accountability advocacy group says.
School officials' actions make UNC-Chapel Hill look like a bully, and they will make others hesitant to come forward, the president of the Government Accountability Project wrote in his letter to Chancellor Carol Folt. GAP President Louis Clark urged UNC-CH to investigate whether school officials have harassed or intimidated Mary Willingham, who worked with athletes and researched their reading skills.


"In my 36 years of dealing with whistleblower cases, this course of action seems necessary and palpably prudent, and I implore you to undertake such a step immediately," Clark wrote in the letter, dated March 6.

He also demanded that the school release the names of a third-party independent board that school officials have said is investigating Willingham's analysis of athletes' literacy. "Specifically, how were members selected, how is the panel's independence guaranteed and what is its current status?" he wrote.

UNC responded Friday evening to GAP, a nonprofit based in Washington, D.C., that calls itself the nation's leading whistleblower protection and advocacy organization. School spokesman Joel Curran said the school expects to release an external review of Willingham's data soon. He also pointed to the hiring of Kenneth Wainstein, a 19-year veteran of the U.S. Justice Department, "as independent counsel to conduct a new inquiry."

The school hired Wainstein in February to conduct an independent review of irregularities in an academic department featuring classes with significant athlete enrollments. Neither Wainstein nor UNC spokeswoman Karen Moon immediately responded when asked whether Wainstein's is investigating Willingham's claims or treatment.

North Carolina's law says state employees should "be free of intimidation or harassment when reporting to public bodies about matters of public concern ..." It also says employees can't be discharged, threatened or discriminated against for reporting problems, including gross mismanagement or gross abuse of authority and fraud.

In a CNN story in January, Willingham said her research on 183 football or basketball players at UNC from 2004-12 found 60 percent reading at fourth- to eighth-grade levels and roughly 10 percent below a third-grade level.

During a Faculty Council meeting, Provost James W. Dean Jr. said the findings were based largely on standardized scores in a 10-minute timed vocabulary test that isn't an appropriate way to measure literacy levels. Dean, the school's top academic officer, called it "flawed analysis" and said it was unfair to use the data to say students can't read. He said outside consultants will review their analysis of Willingham's data.

That's a classic response to whistleblowers, Willingham said. But she said what's important is the students. "It's about the athletes who are not getting what we promised them. They're not getting a real education. ... And they leave without anything except some injuries and some concussions," she said.

She said she hopes her situation results in a policy that protects whistleblowers and produces real leaders at the school. "We have amazing people who work at this university," she said. "We need leadership. We just don't have any."

In an interview, Clark said he was hopeful when Folt said in January that academic oversight had failed for years, leading to no-show classes with significant athlete enrollment and unauthorized grade changes. But he's disappointed with the university's response to Willingham's research. "She doesn't need to embrace the cover-up, and she doesn't need to sit there while the provost essentially trashes Mary in front of the faculty," he said of Folt, who is in her first year as chancellor.

In his letter, Clark takes issue with three parts of school officials' response to Willingham's analysis: comments made in response to the CNN story; the Jan. 17 faculty meeting; and Dean's public statements.

UNC-CH initially denied Willingham's claim and called it unfair to student athletes, and said the university had not seen her data. The denial and attempts to discredit Willingham resulted in UNC-CH being perceived as a bully, Clark wrote.

"This conduct has a chilling effect that will dissuade other potential witnesses from coming forward," he wrote.

He also challenged Dean's comments in a Bloomberg Businessweek article where the provost said Willingham "said that our students can't read, our athletes can't read, and that's a lie." Dean conceded in the article that he had misspoken. In a later article, the reporter said Dean said he doesn't think Willingham is a liar.

"It is simply unacceptable for a person in a position of such authority to make disparaging comments about an employee who has raised legitimate and important concerns about the education of student-athletes," Clark wrote.

The school's whistleblower protection policy, which relies on state law, says school employees should be "free of intimidation or harassment" when they come forward. Considering the public comments from school officials, "it is difficult for me to see how these occurrences do not qualify as unlawful intimidation or harassment and violations of both the UNC-CH policy and state law," Clark writes.

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Online:

UNC Policy: http://policies.unc.edu/policies/protect-reporting/
NC State Policy: http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/ByArticle/Chapter_126/Article_14.html
GAP Letter to Folt: http://www.whistleblower.org/storage/documents/LetterToFolt.pdf
UNC's statement when Kenneth Wainstein was hired: http://uncnews.unc.edu/2014/02/21/independent-counsel-conduct-inquiry-information-academic-irregularities
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3/21/2014 7:01:45 PM

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