Sprint is rolling out WiMax this year under a service they call Xohm. They already have it in some tests markets, like Chicago.
http://www.xohm.com/learn.html

Sprint has also had an on-again off-again relationship with Clearwire, the wireless internet provider, with plans of combining or Clearwire using the Xohm network or something. Last I heard, I think they were "on-again" for some kind of WiMax collaboration
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120162984956525859.html
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/2008-02-10-sprint_N.htm

[Edited on February 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM. Reason : .]

2/12/2008 10:20:29 AM

I have Nextel now. I want a new service and a new phone. I am an Apple user. The obvious selection would be to get the iphone. So from what I am guessing the best thing to do would be to get a 'free' phone and wait for the 3g model?

2/14/2008 8:13:19 AM

Yep, definitely

2/14/2008 8:38:43 AM

just in case anyone wants to jailbreak their phone (with like 2 clicks)

Here's the original engadget article: http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/ziphone-jailbreak-any-version-iphone-out-of-the-box-including/

and the software has been updated multiple times since that article was posted.
here's where you can find the software: http://www.ziphone.org/2008/02/ziphone.html

its supposed to do a software unlock just as easily, but I didn't try that functionality since I have AT&T. the jailbreak worked beautifully for me.

2/14/2008 9:45:50 AM

With the SDK coming out (hopefully) soon, is there really any point to jailbreaking it now? What can you do with a jailbroken phone that you won't be able to do with a clean one in about 2 weeks? or is it just for people that don't want to wait?

2/14/2008 11:46:36 AM

Quote :

"What can you do with a jailbroken phone that you won't be able to do with a clean one in about 2 weeks? "

no one knows what you'll be able to do once the SDK is released. I kinda doubt they're just gonna open it wide and let anything run on it.

2/14/2008 12:49:30 PM

well, 1) programs written with the SDK may take a while to show up, as they'll have to be re-written to use the new APIs, and 2) it has not been announced yet how the programs will be distributed, like if they have to be certified by Apple or if they have to be added via iTunes or something.

so it's possible (probable) that some of the existing Jailbreak applications will no be ported to the SDK because the developers don't want to, or the developers will have to pay for the SDK, or Apple won't certify or distribute the program for some reason.

2/14/2008 1:07:43 PM

I guess it's a lot to hope that it would be open to anything and everything, eh?

2/14/2008 1:13:27 PM

Quote :

"With the SDK coming out (hopefully) soon, is there really any point to jailbreaking it now? What can you do with a jailbroken phone that you won't be able to do with a clean one in about 2 weeks? or is it just for people that don't want to wait?"

who knows when the sdk is dropping, or when we'll actually be able to install applications, or what applications we'll even be able to install when we're able.

so yeah, theres a point to it.

Quote :

"I guess it's a lot to hope that it would be open to anything and everything, eh? "

yeah i can guarantee thats not gonna happen. apple's genius bar would be flooded if they allowed any ol application to be installed with their approval

2/14/2008 1:24:24 PM

how much is the 16 gb goes for at the store?

2/17/2008 10:25:46 PM

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=3587D031&node=home/shop_iphone/family/iphone

$499

[Edited on February 18, 2008 at 8:23 AM. Reason : wrong #]

2/18/2008 8:23:14 AM

^^I would save up for an English tutor if I were you.

2/18/2008 9:52:39 AM

Shit is crazy:

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/02/trio-creates-ow.html

2/19/2008 9:04:53 PM

what case do you guys use..if at all?? i haven't been using one but would like to get one now.

i'm trying to decide between the incase slider and the DLO slimcase

2/22/2008 1:39:59 PM

you should get the SlimCase. Then you could look like a total douchebag when you wear it with the wrist strap and tweed pants

2/22/2008 1:48:46 PM

^ tweed is back in style, yo

2/22/2008 5:39:13 PM

I had a rubber case, seemed to have great protection, but made it hard to pull in and out of my pocket, so I gave up and got an incase belt clip-on

2/22/2008 5:52:50 PM

i used one the other day (borrowed my bros for a day to check signal where we work mostly) and also just to see how it would affect my daily life. I'm pretty much sold, such a change from my normal routine of email, photos and just responding to people. Anyways I wish they'd hurry up w/ the 3g version but I'm so anxious now I might just go ahead and risk it, my whole companies wireless plan is now expired and I'm going to dump VZ for ATT w/ I think 2 or 3 iphones and the rest of the guys w/ get freebies.

2/22/2008 6:13:33 PM

Quote :

"If you know you're gonna buy an iphone and sign the 2 year contract with AT&T anyway, but you don't really get any reduction for being a new customer or whatever, then can you just go to the AT&T store and sign a 2 year contract, get one of the free/cheap phones and then immediately go buy an iphone? Then you'd have both phones and could sell one off to take a little bit of the price off the iphone."

I've been thinking of doing this whenever the 3g version comes out. My question is what phone do you recommend for highest resale? I don't mind putting up $50 to get a phone that might net me ~$100 on resale. Was wondering if getting a crackberry or a Blackjack II would be the route to go or if a W580i Walkman would be a better option. Or just stick w/ the "best" free phone.

Any advice would be appreciated.

2/23/2008 10:12:16 AM

I too am awaiting a 3g version of this

2/23/2008 12:42:48 PM

I will purchase one as soon as its released with 3g...

They need to hurry this shit up

2/23/2008 3:02:03 PM

ill purchase another one then..

2/23/2008 3:02:46 PM

anyone have this case?

I'm thinking i'll be getting it http://www.otterbox.com/products/ipod_cases/iphone-case-defender/

[Edited on February 23, 2008 at 6:54 PM. Reason : s]

2/23/2008 6:54:09 PM

looks like overkill

but who knows

2/23/2008 7:08:55 PM

I really have to ask, why? Mine has been thrown against a wall, used 4-5 hours a day everyday since the day they came out and aside from the screen being cracked from the throw at a wall, it is still almost brand new looking. It's constantly in my pockets with keys, change and knives and in general just goes through a lot of roughness... I can't see why anyone would bother with a case that would make it bigger/impossible to take in and out of your pockets (if its made of rubber its going to stick to your jeans like crazy)

If it were a phone that wouldn't stand up to abuse without a case--then I'd be all for a case. I had one on my treo and most other phones I've had, this phone just doesn't need one though, imo.

2/23/2008 7:14:42 PM

Quote :

"The Silence switch is not usable through the case"

screw that

2/23/2008 7:56:53 PM

i agree. the iphone is really tough, as evidenced by the semi that ran over one and it still functioned properly.

2/23/2008 9:39:03 PM

water feature/irrigation contractor

2/24/2008 9:46:18 AM

^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VtjJtEJy7w

2/25/2008 12:51:30 PM

Quote :

"It's constantly in my pockets with keys, change and knives and in general just goes through a lot of roughness."

doesn't the screen get those fine scratches as on any other ipod?

2/25/2008 6:37:53 PM

the screen is glass, so i'm gonna guess [no].

2/25/2008 6:39:30 PM

there are lots of real douchebags doing iphone scratch tests, and if you can get past the fact that they are all generally very douchey and annoying, the results are basically all the same that the glass is scratch resistant for everyday use http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=iphone+scratch+test&search_type=

Ars managed to scratch their by sliding it face-down down a sidewalk, "none of which were visible while the LCD was on".....
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/iphone-review.ars/13

2/25/2008 7:22:04 PM

I have a few decent scratches on my screen but its nothing that anyone notices when using the phone. Generally, I'm pretty rough on a phone too.

2/25/2008 8:17:11 PM

Glass is hard, so it is very resistant to scratches. It's brittle, but being backed by metal protects the glass from bending.

Think about a glass or mug in your sink -- those probably don't have too many scratches after years of use.

2/25/2008 8:18:41 PM

i accidentally dropped mine at my desk a couple of weeks back, landed front-first on my office chair leg, smashed the glass nicely. it still worked, but i had to get it replaced. it's not indestructable.

that experience encouraged me to look at cases with front-protection as well. unfortunately, i've not seen anything that wasn't either cheap-looking or hard to use.

2/25/2008 9:55:22 PM

Quote :

"doesn't the screen get those fine scratches as on any other ipod? "

nope it doesn't get those little scratches like my ipod has, the regular ipod screens (I THINK) are plastic, except the touch which I'm pretty sure is also glass.

2/25/2008 10:28:18 PM

Quote :

"smashed the glass nicely. it still worked, but i had to get it replaced. it's not indestructable. "

You mean the glass they use can actually break?? No way!

2/26/2008 1:10:38 PM

Quote :

"i accidentally dropped mine at my desk a couple of weeks back, landed front-first on my office chair leg, smashed the glass nicely. it still worked, but i had to get it replaced. it's not indestructable."

i've dropped mine in similar situations several times and it didn't break it (although it's already broke so maybe it bent some and absorbed impact..). It also survived one hell of a throw against a wall so I'm guessing you just got really unlucky. Are all iphones the exact same screen? For some reason I thought I heard about a small change early on... could be wrong though.

2/26/2008 1:17:00 PM

1.1.4 is supposedly out now

[Edited on February 26, 2008 at 4:12 PM. Reason : bug fixes only though. no sdk]

2/26/2008 4:10:53 PM

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/02/iphone_114_firm.html

Quote :

"One thing of note to all you iPhone jailbreakers out there. The ZiPhone jailbreaking software does indeed work. That means you don't have to wait for a new hack to unlock 1.1.4, the same unlocking tool you used for 1.1.3 will open up 1.1.4."

So if mines already jailbroken, i wonder what will happen if i try and update it thru itunes...

nm, i just saw that dude told me to hold off on upgrading: http://www.ziphone.org/

I guess if I want 1.1.4 theres no way to save all the customizations/applications I have installed on 1.1.3 right? can any jailbreakers out there confirm or deny this?

[Edited on February 26, 2008 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ]

2/26/2008 4:27:26 PM

from what i'm reading, there's really no reason to update anyway.

I really shouldn't care this much about firmware updates for a device I don't even own. /facepalm

2/26/2008 5:55:01 PM

hehe

2/26/2008 8:42:22 PM

sounds like the dev kit will be released or at least previewed next week.

2/27/2008 6:13:15 PM

Agent 18


http://www.agent18.com/scripts/prodview2.asp?idproductpages=16

Any use this case? A friend of mine does and has only good things to say.

2/27/2008 10:30:15 PM

^ u need the incase slider, its like that agent but updated...better

http://www.goincase.com/products/detail/slider-case-cl59044/1

do some checking, its far superior
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=439462

http://www.google.com/search?q=incase+slider+agent&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

2/27/2008 10:40:42 PM

I updated

Safari doesn't crash nearly as much and the camera and txt apps are more responsive. Looks like a bug fix if anything.

2/27/2008 10:53:55 PM

2/28/2008 4:04:30 PM

People who don't take care of their stuff really annoy me.

This is why some people shouldn't have nice things.

2/28/2008 4:22:52 PM

not taking care of things != crazy bitch throwing phone at a wall, twice.

2/28/2008 4:53:02 PM

^ i think you should mention that on every page in this thread

2/28/2008 5:01:02 PM