FYI, Starcraft 2 on sale at kmart $40.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2215830

9/6/2010 6:20:54 AM

Tww username: name.character code
Azaka: Azaka.422
BigEgo: ProtisRobit.535
titans78: FLuE.301
Lokken: Lokken.762
JCE2011:AdmiralHaket.306
icyhotpatch: Unity.156
JBaz: JBaz.283
Stimwalt: Stimwalt.306
slackerb: slackerb.591
Doss2k: Doss.357
Doss2k friend: Phoebetor.944
Fry: Lionhart.667


Quinn and I played like shit yesterday too, day before we did awesome though, no idea what was up with that.

9/6/2010 7:47:53 AM

Tww username: name.character code
Azaka: Azaka.422
BigEgo: ProtisRobit.535
titans78: FLuE.301
Lokken: Lokken.762
JCE2011:AdmiralHaket.306
icyhotpatch: Unity.156
JBaz: JBaz.283
Stimwalt: Stimwalt.306
slackerb: slackerb.591
Doss2k: Doss.357
Doss2k friend: Phoebetor.944
Fry: Lionhart.667

I'll add myself in:
sprocket: sprocket.440

9/6/2010 10:26:00 AM

So I signed up and played in a tournament today for the hell of it.

First round matchup both random, I got T he got P. I was ahead all game and then made a stupid decision to attack instead of expand and lost when he caught me moving w/ tanks out of position. Now the dude is on to like the 5th round... he wasn't even that good.

9/6/2010 6:49:46 PM

Another night of crappy playing by me I need to go back to playing just 1v1s for a while

Got called a "fag" who "just sat back and turtled" by a terran who sat back and turtled on the 3v3 map called Monsoon. We had an awesome early game, but lost because they fell back and out-turtled us Wish I had more time to really play some good 1v1s

9/6/2010 8:37:39 PM

Wolfmarsh: Lazarus.765

(Not gonna repaste the list).


I typically play with a set group, but on nights like tonight I am open to something.

[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 8:42 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2010 8:41:34 PM

Was playing with my friend who goes to UNC tonight for a game. Games like this make me hate playing ladder.

2v2, PT (us)vTT.

First things first, the game had a slight lag. I'd click commands, and it'd take a second or two before they did anything. I was able to tell my workers to mine, queue the first probe, and get my rally point before the probes went to mine. I went for the standard quick stalker (9 pylon, 12/13gateway, cybercore immediately after skipping the zealot), and scouted on 9. Saw reapers from one guy, got a nice pylon dropping, at least I thought, and decided I'd go for a 4 gate stalker play. Get warpgate just as the 3rd and 4th gateways finished, and I get my probe to make a couple pylons so I could start the push, he waits to make the pylon, forcing me to be supply blocked at 1 warped stalker... Pylon dies, Stalker gets a couple kills, but dies. No real early pressure... Anyway, I was able to expand shortly after, my partner went MMT, we were able to fend off a counter MMM drop in his base and I was able to get up a 5th gate, 2 robos and a bay. Didn't see any air other than the medivacs so I figured collusi was a smart transition. Turns out one of the guys added a few banshees, but scans and observers allowed my stalkers to take care of that. We make a good push, taking out two expands. One of them counter pushes and takes out both, of our mains and naturals, we expand elsewhere during the attack and take out one guy's main and contain the other guy in his main. They couldn't expand anywhere, one guy didn't have a CC or workers, but he had the MMM and was dropping around trying to knock us out. I try to get to HT, but before I can get storm up he finds my expand so I have to make another one. I was able to get decent damage on his ball though. He runs into our contain (which had marines, maruaders, tanks, zealots, stalkers, an observer, and 3 collusi) and his army went bye bye we push and take out the guys main, but he flys his CC off before we can get to it. He has no units, maybe no money, but moves his CC successfully around for 10-20 minutes while we expand, move units all over the map, and eventually my teammate's floating factory found it, and the voids and phoenix i made to scout around the air destroy him. Game took probably 20 minutes longer than it should have because a guy wanted to be BM for no reason.

9/6/2010 11:14:03 PM

only will read once in readable format, preferably in short brief bullet form.

9/6/2010 11:27:44 PM

Summary:
-PTvTT
-B.NET super lag
-Reaper rush by other team failed because of my stalkers
-Lag causes my 4 gate push to fail (supply block bc of lag)
-Stopped a couple MMM pushes and some banshees
-MMM drops take out our mains and naturals while we take out a guys greedy double expand, both naturals, and one guys base.
-We expand while they take out our mains so we don't lose.
-Contain around the other guy's main
-Eventually take out the MMM
-Push in and destory guys main, he flies his CC out and around places
-Spend 20 minutes trying to find the CC, kill it and win.

Lag + that last bullet =

9/6/2010 11:44:56 PM

Summary:

9/7/2010 12:21:19 AM

either way the point is that i'm a boss.


I think between 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4, all the teams I've played on with my friend, we're prolly like 18-2.

9/7/2010 1:01:56 AM

Another college offers a SC class:

http://gammasquad.uproxx.com/2010/08/university-of-florida-gives-up-gives-credit-for-playing-starcraft

Berkley did it first if you were wondering a year ago:

http://kotaku.com/5141355/competitive-starcraft-gets-uc-berkeley-class

9/7/2010 11:16:41 AM

A lot of single player achievements are not registering. Appears to be a well-known issue. Sucks.

9/7/2010 12:04:07 PM

you think they teach the "dual mother ship base rape rush" tactic? Pretty sure that's left off the curriculum at West Point.

btw, just text my friend down at UF and he tried to take it, but it went instantly full because the college newspaper did a story on it. It's mostly an economics course and uses starcraft as an example.

[Edited on September 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM. Reason : btw]

9/7/2010 12:25:57 PM

^^^I think I'll have to see if I can get the navy to pay for me to go to one of those schools so I can see what it's all about assuming they offer it a couple years from now.

9/7/2010 3:17:17 PM

Damn, that would be sweet to be the teacher for that class.

9/7/2010 3:42:25 PM

haha imagine playing SC2 on a projector or something though. i mean i don't suppose you could have a game with 40 observers could you?

your homework could be to watch the day9 daily haha

9/7/2010 3:49:50 PM

Finally broke down and made the purchase after running through the campaign and playing lots of computer skirmishes

I think I'll be playing zerg mostly, I enjoy them and from my understanding they aren't very common.

9/7/2010 4:59:51 PM

They're common, just slightly less common than Terran and Protoss.

I think that's because they're hardest to be good with. They probably require the most APM, and they require either great macro and/or aggression to beat the other races.

Terran is just too easy to change builds and counter/react. Protoss generally relies on doing a lot of cutesy things (See Nony's Phoenix build, sentrys, HTs, proxy pylons etc.) unless you can out macro yourself.

9/7/2010 5:19:02 PM

Yeah I never was a big SC1 player, at the time I was playing AoE, Total annihilation, red alert, etc so all three races are still relatively new to me.

But I've watched a good amount of SC2 video and the zerg just seem the most fun to play so I think I'll give them a shot at the beginning.

9/7/2010 5:34:40 PM

Just lost an epic 4v4, went 2 gate ->> nony's phoenix ->> speedvoids. everything i did was effective, my teammates? .....Not so much. I really like that build for 3v3/4v4 though. I feel like it can be VERY effective with the right teammates.

9/7/2010 7:08:16 PM

^ I'll message you if I see you online later this week to try and get some solid games goin. I need practice!

9/7/2010 8:11:20 PM

Love the "oh fuck I'm gonna lose" BM, makes wins even better!

Backstory : He makes only lings so I know the mutas are coming in ZvZ. I throw down 3 spores, get fast +1attack roaches, and attack once i see his mutas lol.

9/7/2010 8:34:53 PM

lol, you can't really cheese in zvz...

unless you use broodlings?

9/7/2010 9:58:06 PM

Assuming you mean banelings I don't see that as cheese. I never use it but it's a viable strat. Just gotta work on your sim citying, drone micro, and throw down a couple spines and progress to your own strat imo

9/7/2010 10:50:21 PM

^^I assumed he was talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D25urXSlxe0

9/7/2010 11:26:38 PM

Lol well same stuff would apply, just micro ur drones away from broods when they come out and ur gtg

9/7/2010 11:29:44 PM

watching pro zvz matches is really the worst. It is just a giant speedling/baneling circle jerk. You can't risk early expanding or teching because you'll fall behind on the speed lings so the game just sits at tier 1 the whole time, it is painful.

If you ever want to win in ZvZ just go 13 pool/13 gas/get 100 gas and upgrade speed, then put those drones back on minerals and just pump lings. attack after your lings come out from your first larva infuse. If the other zerg has done anything but just make lings as well it is gg. If he has made lings then just keep making them, and add a few banelings in. If he tries to tech at all it will cost him resources he needs to keep up with your ling production and you'll win.

Wouldn't be to bad being a progamer in Korea. Those people go nuts over there for SC, wouldn't be to bad of a gig.

9/7/2010 11:32:07 PM

yeah, they have sc tv...

9/8/2010 12:42:15 AM

So I got the digital download, waited all night while it downloaded and it wouldnt install. So i redownloaded it, same issue. I found some supposed fix that will help repair the install so it works.. waiting on that to run and hopefully it will finally install.

9/8/2010 11:36:37 AM

so i will probably never win a game of this because i sucked ass at SC should i waste $60 on this?

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

9/8/2010 11:41:43 AM

that question has been answered multiple times in this thread.

9/8/2010 11:50:25 AM

Finally.. install complete. Time to get in and get raped in my placement matches

9/8/2010 11:56:46 AM

^^^ I really enjoy the single player - it has lots of replay value with different difficulties and all the achievements. Plus you can play skirmishes against A.I. Even if I rarely do multi-player, I'm still very happy with the purchase.

9/8/2010 1:01:06 PM

Quote :

"so i will probably never win a game of this because i sucked ass at SC should i waste $60 on this?"

It's $40 at kmart right now.

9/8/2010 1:07:21 PM

So I went 4-2 and got placed into Silver. One loss I just got out macroed, stupid terran and I didn't apply enough early pressure. Second loss I used nydus worms pretty effectively (to attack and retreat) and was able to keep the terran contained to one base while I expanded to several. Unfortunately my macro ability lost out and his vikings wiped out most of my bases when I should've been producing more hydras. We ended up taking out each others bases at the same time, except I was left with a bunch of drones and a ton of resources though his army was much bigger then mine. I should've hunkered down and taken him out but I spent too much time trying to find his command center and eventually his army wore me down.

I'm enjoying the zerg though, I just need to improve my macro so I can keep pumping out units nonstop.

9/8/2010 2:50:01 PM

So 2v2 RT might be the most frustrating thing ever. Finally been playing much better in 2's and got on a role winning like 8 games in a row including one against a top 10 diamond team. My partners during this stretch were decent enough, pretty lucky.

Then my last 4 games of the night I get the crappiest partners. One guy goes proxy marine? That didn't work.

Another guy I asked, "Whats your plan?" he just goes "rape." Thanks, I really know what to make now. I mean are you going 2 gate/rape? Or the more typical 1 Gate/cyber/rape? Perhaps the not often seen fast tech to rape. Needless to say I assumed he would just go stalker and instead went fast robo tech and I had mass Mauraders and we died to Void Ray/Stalker.

Last game I basically took out the other team with speed lings but they had units to make a counter push and my partner had like 6 marines, 10 scvs, and no command center upgrade 10 minutes into the game. He was only gold level I don't get why he was matched up with me.

/rant over. just hate losing games that should have been easy wins.

9/8/2010 3:07:11 PM

Quote :

"so i will probably never win a game of this because i sucked ass at SC should i waste $60 on this?"

Play custom games if you suck at ladder. Single player is also very fun.

9/8/2010 4:28:53 PM

indeed, custom games are fun, a lot of shitty ones out there, but there are a few good ones, and single player is fun and repayable.

9/8/2010 5:56:29 PM

Quote :

"Another guy I asked, "Whats your plan?" he just goes "rape." Thanks, I really know what to make now."

I HATE that. When I play 4v4, I typically ask "plans?" right after i gl hf. there's usually like 1 or 2 people every game that just say "win" or something similar. Where as I have a detailed plan with planed expected transitions every game.

I'll let them know, something like I want to 2 Gate so we can apply early pressure and keep them on the defensive into Nony's phoenix. After establishing air dominance and have successfully harassed enough, I want to expand. Nony's will punish them for expanding the same way 2 gating does. Then I make an in-game decision to switch to either collusi or speedvoids, depending on how they're reacting to the phoenix. Denying their expansions the best I can, we should be able to be at least one or two expands up on them which should lead to a victory. Of course I do this by saying 2gate->nony's->voids/collusi so I don't spend 2 minutes typing instead of macroing.

9/8/2010 6:04:06 PM

serious business

9/8/2010 7:34:38 PM

^^ thats why you should play with people you know or something. random people on the internet just want to do their own thing, from my experience.

9/8/2010 9:38:56 PM

It honestly seems like the only viable counter to MASS thor is broodlords. For some reason I've come across MASS THOR like 4 times in the past few days at ~800-1k diamond, makes me rage every time lol

9/8/2010 9:57:37 PM

Dont speedlings do well if they can get a surround going?

9/8/2010 10:11:02 PM

^speedlings might work. Infestors would be a clever way to deal with them.

9/8/2010 11:24:46 PM

Perhaps get the speedling surround then roll in a bunch of banelings haha

9/8/2010 11:27:31 PM

you just have to have a TON of speedlings to deal with thors. a lot of players tend to cut down on lings in the later stages of the game though

9/8/2010 11:34:42 PM

mass lings handle thors with any kind of backup from roach/hydra or brood

9/8/2010 11:36:55 PM

it can be difficult though if he has hellion support i'd imagine

9/8/2010 11:38:41 PM

mutas+lings...my favorite combo

9/8/2010 11:49:50 PM